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where humanity defies. expectations with freedom is 12 untold stories from across asia and the pacific one o one each on outages era, the high are welcome to the stream. i'm josh rushing, emitted climate emergency. the u. s. has approved a massive plan to drill from their foil in gas and alaska. that's called the willow project. in this $8000000000.00 development teams to extract at least $600000000.00 barrels of oil, from alaska's north slope, over the next 30 years. listen to what some alaskan natives had to say about the project earlier this month. at a protest outside the white house. i am sad when you want to drill or on my lab. when i know that it will make the animal sick,

the animals that my family needs to thrive on. i've seen bully tactics to keep people quiet. leaders raising their voice that you're telling us we are brainwashed by big green, an individuals having their worth as an an any back person torn apart publicly by their own community and families. the man who lived in the big house across the street behind me, campaign for the presidency with promises a fight and climate change. the president bye and how do you want to be remembered 50 years from now? 100 years from now. do you want to be remembered and known as the president who put america on a path to showing and stopping climate change or for helping kind of go philips increased profits at the expensive indigenous communities and the rest of the world . so this week the stream is focusing on issues affecting climate change. and today we're going to hear more about the will the project in the debate over continued oil development and the artic with us to discuss this in washington dc. polly dent

at the cloth, a political correspondent who covers indigenous issues with indian country today in anchorage alaska neglect archer rec president of the voice of the arctic in, in new p at a that's a pro development group based and they'll ask as north slope and boston we have philip white and assistant professor of history and artic and northern studies at the university of alaska fair banks. i welcome to everybody. i think we're going to begin with you cuz i know that those voices we heard at the top are not the only perspective here a year from alaska, from the north slope. so can you tell us the, the upside of this project? what, what are the benefits is going to bring? there are a lot of benefits through the taxation of the oil infrastructure that turns into revenues for the nurse, low burrow that provides for 1st floor living conditions and all of the communities on the north slope. so water and tear projects, police and fire protection, educational institutions, anything that the municipal government or

a city government normally provides in more modern cities been or slow bro. does that for us on the north slope and has been doing that for the last 50 years. and to make it clear, yeah. your pro development polly, you've done some reporting with with locals from out there that have a different point of view. what are the concerns that you've heard? so um uh, the mayor of next truck um, uh, has been very outspoken and this is the community that is closest to where the development will actually be occurring. and after the will project is fully completed. the community will be surrounded, essentially by oil and gas development. and the next a community is mostly in new york. um and is about $400.00 um folks who lived there. and now some of the things that they have noticed is a change migration when it comes to um the animals that they use for subsistence

hunting. and the migration patterns have changed um the mayor rosemary noted that her son that has to travel some 300 miles um, because of the migration changes of the cariboo, and also noting that the permafrost in her community has been assigned which has really affected the community and there are a host of other issues that she testified before the natural resources committee last year. so the us has a director of the department of interior. that's actually it made a person for the 1st time deb holland. and she's the one that announced us we actually had the video of her or announcing this the president is taking action to live at new coil and gas, leasing in important places in the western architect and the arctic ocean. second to the interior department will propose a rule that will recommend additional protections for more than $13000000.00 acres

in the area. these steps will protect wild life, including caribou, and polar bears and guard the subsistence rights that are so important to alaska native communities. 3rd is simple a project which is a difficult and complex issue that was inherited. these are existing leases issued by previous administrations. as far back as the ninety's. as a result, we have limited decision space, but we focused on how to reduce the projects footprint and minimize its impacts to people and to wild life. hey, philip, listening to the secretary holland there. um, there is definitely a tonal shift on that 3rd point. it, it seems to be very reticent to kind of announcing those what are some of the politics that, that went into this and why would that buy them at ministration? that seemed to campaign on making climate change a priority? well, why didn't what did they do this? yeah,

well that's absolutely right. and just to start with the finance campaign promise of um, no new leasing or development on federal lands and so on. on from that perspective, this looks like a major walk back from the, by the administration and it really looks like they're trying to save face here. and i think that's why we see those. busy other actions, we'll have to remember that biden is a savvy political leader and alaska is congressional delegation. has been very outspoken about wanting to see this project go forward and back congressional delegation, especially at least with mccallski and alaska is congresswoman barry they'll talk um are, are really important for other federal decisions that need to be made for other especially for senator mccallski for the judges that needs to be confirmed. so this is certainly a little decision on the by the administrators are, and you can tell that they're, they're not particularly happy about it. but clearly they thought this was the most political decision based on the context,

especially the political context of the ukraine prices right now. you know that the, well actually i want to move on, but can you just touch on that for a 2nd? why the ukraine changed the political decision here? yeah. and so you know, the united states, as of historically, you know, we had declining world production ever since the 19 seventy's because of sweetwater hydraulic fracturing it really created our kind of energy revolution in this country. and so we have been exporting vast quantities of an l. n. g liquefied natural gas to europe, to help replace russian natural gas. so united states has played a new more um, you know, muscular role in europe and global energy affairs. and i, and there is the perception with this project that the united states needs to maintain a certain flow of energy to be able to support our allies. and that, um, you know, you would see the last the delegation and other say that energy is best coming from domestic resources and from from the state of alaska. so i'm a broker,

i'm giving this next question to you. i want to share my laptop with the viewers. i'm looking at a report from the i e a. this is the international energy association. you, they are very pro energy. they came out with a report about how the, the world can get to net 0 by 2050. and in this report, i'm going to share this here. it says there is no need for investment in new fossil fuel supply. and our net 0 pathway look, do you believe that that new fossil fuel projects will lead the world to the tipping point for climate change faster? which in good, you know, we're, we're in this transition period. and, and, you know, by and himself mentioned that we're going to need the resource for at least 10 years. we did argue, i think that it might be longer than that. so the choice to do it domestically, i think, is a good choice. we definitely appreciate it on the north slope because of the economic benefits that projects like this provide to our communities. you know, the only other option is to kinda outsource that to other countries. and i think

that they're making the right choice with respect to this. but back to the heart of that question, do you believe new projects will push the world closer to climate catastrophe? a torch clement cache, re i, i don't think so. i mean, to us is, is doing a great job as far as you know, the projects to reduce the climate footprint. you know, i think one of the things we could do is produce a natural gas that they mentioned, the tracking down in lower 48 that allowed for the reduction in greenhouse gas emissions within the united states. so i think if we do it responsibly, we can minimize whatever the effects are going to be going forward. well, people are talking about this on social media down the city or video on tick tock. this is sunny or granite and i want to share it with the audience. today i am mourning the loss of biodiversity that increase and permafrost on the continued coastal erosion and global see rise as

a youth. i'm morning. the fact that we're losing years of our lives to dedicate to this advocacy work and a pill bottle that is ahead of us a morning. the fact that we don't have the luxury of previous generations to push this responsibility of a transition away from fossil fuels and contending with worth of in climate change on to future generations and the generations that come after us. we will have the time to do that policy and in your reporting, how do you reconcile? oh man, the, the motions in that video. the concern that that generation has and, and not just that generation about climate change and what's happening and not wanting to just give up, but also in the group. what are pointing out, you know, the, the local economic benefit and that they need that there. how do you balance these so i think it's really important, especially when it comes to oil and gas development. and it is communities,

one the fact of tribal sovereignty and self determination, which is local. indigenous governments and officials can decide what they choose to do with the land that they occupy. and so i think when we're having these conversations, it is really important to understand the tribal sovereignty. and self determination is having these indigenous leaders decide what they want to do. and part of this is that alaska is a oil and gas state and so the majority of. busy the state's income comes from oil and gas revenue. and so, and part of that too is that alaska doesn't have a state income tax or sales tax. and those are also part of the conversation. and in the north slope borough, the majority of the revenues and tax revenues come from this development and

projects like below and in places that are so i deleted that. don't often have no access to sort of economic development on these projects. you know, it's reconciling both of these of yes, the climate change is happening. and then also, you know, these communities need jobs and tax revenues to continue to uplift and build their communities. and i think 2 things can be true at once. now, philip, i'm having some voices here from youtube right now. we're watching the show. this is jerry miller says, people liked have a functioning economy where they can afford to live a t r. c, 23 me until the when impacts as indigenous people digits. culture native americans 1st. and then a few other people say it's about time we're drilling and the on one, john, 226. as this earth age will be long over by 2050. there's

a sense of like, oh the for the places that depend on oil and gas for the economy, even with the report that came out the ip cc report that came out. that said that, you know, we have about 10 years left. but i just read a report about that this morning that showed what saudi arabia and norway pushed back in the negotiations for, for that report to come out. and i had this feeling not living in a place that depends on exporting orland gas that i'm held hostage to the maybe local economic concerns that the future of the the plan that will be fine is not the future. the planet is the future of people on the planet that i'm concerned about. how, how do you see a path board where local economic concerns, white and the good brought up can be reconciled with greater global prices concerns? so absolutely, this is, this is

a great question. i just want to go to start to about a few minutes ago with that, with the economics of oil and gas in alaska. because, um, you know, so many people have this long standing perception that alaska is an oil state. and basically what happened is after the discovery of probation, 1968. after the construction of trans last the pipeline system in 1977, the state of alaska re wired its economy to run on the way, right? we don't have an income tax, we don't have a sales tax, we don't fund our selves like other states. and so over the past few decades, this has been true. but what's really fascinating is that we are actually getting the majority of our income today from earnings on investments from earnings on the alaska permanent fund, right? this is our solver welfare. so we're actually more of an endowment state today than we are and we'll see. and i'd also add that, you know, this willow deal is not a good deal for the state of alaska. we're actually going to be getting less revenue over the next 10 years because of this well developed event because of the

way that our oil taxes are structured as a state. so when it comes to transitioning away from that, we've already begun to transition because of the money that we've saved, that oil and gas revenue. we've turned the non renewable resource into a renewable resource in alaska. has some of the best renewable resources on the planet. right, we have phenomenal went we're just phenomenal. so i'm shot during the summer right when we have almost 24 hours of of light in different places in the street. and we're phenomenal geothermal resources. so i'm actually valesh that alaska can sure the past year towards the sustainable economy, while still providing for the needs of people i want to bring in another video comment. this is from brenda to bears. she's with keep it in the ground. she's a li coordinator at the indigenous environmental network. that's a i am here at least once. she has a say of the willow project is the next climate bomb. the building of this pipeline

is going to lock the us in front of the 30 years, at least to unnecessary fossil fuel emissions. so ecological and spiritual damage brought on by this project is not going to be offset it or supplanted instead is going to put the food security health and identity of 6 the new, the villages at risk out there on the northern slope. the knocks, it is one of those and they will be at the villages and they're already suffering from extreme pollution with the existing oil projects. what's going to happen to them when they are caribou disappear? how are they going to supplement their food with local hunting and fishing, with nothing to 100 fish? the will project is only going to devastate because fossil fuels have always and will always increase serious health impacts for in new york and indigenous communities in the region. and around the world's indigenous lands and communities are not sacrifice zones. of course, use a phrase there. climate bomb uh, the secretary general, the united nations. antonio gutierrez,

also called the report i referred to earlier, di pcc report this week a how to guide to diffuse the climate time bomb. what are your think about philip suggestion for all the green energy that will aspect could be producing there? why don't do that rather than extract fossil fuels? you know, i think that the base for the reason that i represent the, you know, whatever the transition looks like and whatever systems that may be available to put in place, it's going to require an investment. we have an opportunity, i'm sure the revenues that we're going to generate to be able to make those investments ourselves, to be able to decide what system that we want in place or selves kind of goes back to the idea of self determination, right? we have to force a seat at the table back in the 1970s to build a benefit economically from the development that was going to take place. and then we have an opportunity to, to utilize that to, to generate the revenues, to move our communities to the future. so what do we ask?

is there enough gas available right now with the current projects to meet the needs or newburgh brought up in one of his early answers that you know, the transition isn't gonna happen for maybe 10 more years, and we're gonna need oil during that time as well. what i would say is that, you know, we have known about climate change in alaska for decades, right? in the garage formation, the north slope, or up in 1972, fighting for a seat of the table. and one of the key leaders is that transition was a gentleman by the name of evan hudson, and haven't how soon it was talking about climate change coming from oil and gas back in the 19 seventy's. so we've known about this for a long time. alaska had a governor's div cooper and 1992 introduced the climate change report to the alaska legislature. so we have known about this for decades. we have not taken the action that we need to for decades, and now we're suffering the consequences because of that. so i think the logic that, you know, it's certainly helpful to have more money, more investment for this transition. but as we look at the global landscape right

now, renewables, especially software, is the cheapest form of energy that we've ever discovered as she manage. right. the scientists have done their job. we have the tools and technology in front of us, and what we need is the political will. and um, you know, we really need to be deploying these technologies at scale to be carbonized or economy. all right, here's another comment from youtube. it says, are they ready for another trump error? because biden will lose young voters, especially after going back on his promise to protect the climate. and i want to bring a one more video comment from our community. this is from j, p gay, the director of policy and advocacy at the, in the, in collective we are, of course, very concerned about the impacts to the local indigenous community and tribes that live in europe. where the will project will be built and expanded. not only

that, but we are really concerned about what this means for indigenous communities across the world. because we know that climate change does not happen in a vacuum. this definitely puts us well beyond that 1.5 to predict meaning meaning more catastrophe for vulnerable populations like indigenous communities, real communities and low income communities. holly there and i've got jump and go for. yeah. so one of the things that i really want to make sure is under to the context of this issue is that colonization and america saying with or without you, we are going to develop this land and the indigenous leaders of the arctic, you know, forcing a seat at the table i think needs to be a part of this conversation because context does matter. and capitalism and

colonization has deeply impacted. ready sickness communities, and so we see that here today. and so you have indigenous communities who are relying on these oil and gas funds because the federal government, forrest, this development force with, or without the voice of indigenous people, this development would have happened. and so when we're talking about that, i think that that needs to be a part of the conversation as well. and then also when we're talking about green energy, you know their conversations now about with the mining the and the holly close, those are just going to be more pressure and that's tomorrow show on the stream or toward doing lives. the um yeah, for people like me to drive an electric car. we've been talking about oil and gas this week. lots of miles my turn to get it with the the lithium question. i'm glad you brought that up. but in a group, i want to give you a chance to respond to poly. do you feel like this was forced upon nearby colonization in the us government?

you know, i think at the time in the seventy's the, they were going to drill with or without us, they were going to extract the resources off the north slope. and then in order for us to provide for our communities, they set up in our slow bar, our early leaders set up in our slow burrow. and really in the new that that there was going to be the revenue that was made available. we were actually sued by the oil companies as well as the state of alaska and 11 that suited court to be able to develop a nurse little girl and have been providing for our communities ever since. and it is an important context that we were, we were forced into the situation that right now with the burrow with the alaskan in claims settlement act and were were utilizing the tools that were made available to us to do the best that we can to support the people, our constituents in the different regions across the state, you know, given the choice. so if you had another, another choice like someone was offering you an equal amount of money for green energy project, there would, what would you take that? i mean, if, if, you know, i think that we're open to any ideas to replace the revenue, right. we could replace the energy probably

a lot easier then we can replace that revenue, right? so it did. you can't have one without the other necessarily because then you just thrust communities back into potential poverty and they might not be able to pay that energy bill doesn't matter where it comes from. i'm so you need the economy, the economy to be able to support the hey real quick, we got less than 2 minutes here. philip, we did a show yesterday about a new pipeline project in uganda and tanza nea, what is the rest of? we're all supposed to think when they look at the us starting new possible feel projects. well, kind of wagging the finger at, you know, places like you've got a saying don't add to climate change. yeah, absolutely. i mean, i think this is the, by the administration in the us, i think have lost a significant amount of leverage and credibility with this decision. at the same time, we also have to buy new ministers in passing the most ambitious and aggressive climate legislation in us history with the inflation reduction. what we can certainly say is that we know that there's a carpet. we know there's a certain amount of oil and gas that region below before we exceed these planetary

tipping points, right? you often hear about 2 degrees celsius, referred to, and with the willow project. you know, con, consult suspect, goes at about $58.00 a barrel, which is relatively high cost away in this oil, that's gonna be. ready producing a 2030, it's 24 as well under the 2050. and so what we know with this project is that, you know, the, the folks who are developing this are planning on there being a lot more oil and gas in the future. and not keeping to the carbon budget that the scientists say that we need to stick to. and that's going to be our final word out . i want to take all 3 of our guests for being here with us today. and as poly perfectly set up for us tomorrow, we're going to be talking about the new energy, or we'll look at electric vehicles and what they need to be more sustainable going forward. so i want to thank you for watching today, and hopefully we'll see you on the show tomorrow. the

the basically entities just the un fits the purpose was like many critics sites just pump salise and doesn't get anywhere near enough done to the amount of money that is put into a hard hitting into b. c. think about to the minus on washing it's enough for money to go on its own and to build it's on don't providing on for centuries, people have been taken care of are. so i have every confidence that future

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