as a veteran, those hands over the readings to adult and medical crisis images underlining the paper to roll of these dedicated carriers in our an island called a, with this documentary on that just the . so i'm carrie jones thing dial the top stores on the i'll just there. it's now a week since devastating floods in libya killed thousands of people. international aid has become arriving, but it's being slow to reach the west head. terry is the covered operations are on the way as diverse set football. these are washed out to sea. now the 900 buildings have been destroyed and tens of thousands of people have been displaced. got you down arrows is deputy director general at the international organization for migration,

which is currently dealing with multiple natural disasters. are people on the ground. everybody that they spoke to talked about the need for support for their mental health, for the trauma that they've gone through. so we as i o m, have brought in our mental health psycho social support team. they're working with the ministry of health to get people the support that they need. but having such thoughts so much more needs to be done. the impact of the devastation changes by the hour. and as you rightly mentioned earlier, there is assistance coming in, but much, much more as needed. you know, by the around 100 kilometers west of dennis hospitals are struggling to function. the city has also been affected by the storm, with the main medical center flooded with dr. say they're still receiving an influx of critical patients from it. then. so the team due to the damage and during the hospital some cases couldn't be treated,

especially the critical cases with chronic diseases in need of the intensive care unit. the now here and in stable condition for members of a greek rescue t helping with the recovery efforts in lydia, died in a road accident and health minister for libby as eastern government says 7 other members of the crew are in critical condition. you are paying commission preston, us live on the line and has visited the italian audience of non producer. she was there with the attending the prime minister, who didn't want you to see the unprecedented number of refugees and microns arriving from africa. how he forced it, has moved from produce a major part of georgia maloney's message is that this is a european border as well as an italian one requiring a european solution. but despite a sort of underlines 10 point, plan much remains on, on so as to exactly what that solution is going to be, whether it will work on whether it will be sufficient for those who voted in georgia. maloney as prime minister back at the reception center that we also do

from booking is also about the visit. and the politicians distinction between refugees and economic migrants move in the international protection because there is no peace in our country. we are here because we don't have an toner to because of the seat to reach each other, leaving our families behind. why should we do these if you, i really for the some piece in our country, the dominican republic has sent troops to reinforce its border with hating is close to crossing off the objecting to a building a canal on a shed river. dominican republic says eighties define a long standing treaty located over here. and like the, i know we know that the haiti government because of the actions of the guns has its hands tied. but the construction of the canal affects the interest of the dominican republic, effect of farmers and did violates the treaty of 1929. so it's up to the government to find a solution. it's in the hands for a good revels and northern bodies say that sees control to military bases,

often an attack on the town, the boy that with martini, within an escalation, nevada. and since you, in peace keeping choose began withdrawing from the country is not following a demand. why modest but it's region to a 5 pot. a standing for testers have been injured adults to is ready for his attack . them along the guns, a boat of demonstrations were against his very soul, just bought into the confronting palestinian worshippers that are like some must compound on sunday for historic sites in the occupied westbank has been added to you and this goes midst of world heritage sites. also autonomy, which historians for the pre dates, the gyptian parent is, is ok to need a pet of students that have jericho evidence of ancient human sacrament can be found out the sign. those are the headlines. news continues here and i'll just hear that's off to the bottom line. stay with this. the

higher the appointments and i have a question 30 years after the palestinians and is really signed their historic peace plan. and also why is peace more elusive than ever? let's get to the bottom line. the on paper it sounded like a good idea, get palestinian and his really leaders in a room far away from their people in the media and have them talk about what they could accept that bare minimum. that was the premise of the norwegian officials who broker the oslo accords. in 1993, it was supposed to be a temporary deal, but it was celebrated as a full blown peace treaty. today, palestinians have a measure of autonomy, but they're far from free. is real, is prospered in gain more acceptance in the region, but it's still running one of the world's longest military occupations. so it was

also an epic achievement on epic mistake. and if it's dead as so many palestinians and is really say, where do they go from here? i will be getting 2 perspectives on these questions. and we'll start with yoshi, bail, and a former minister of justice in israel. and one of the officials who initiated the talks in oswell, you know, there's a lot of duration of aw, slow. and i'm interested in going from where we were to your ongoing efforts today to say, look, there's still a partner. there are still opportunities out there. what of a new or right what, what a new oslo look like, you'll see. well, it does look also anymore also was really as you say, didn't dream agreement, which is that was abused by the age of 80, right? in order to become a bill, money into $1.00 and $2.00 we uh, we had to finish it in 99. and here we are now in 23. and the we have speed in, in, in the interim agreement which never ended a. i don't think that day and the price being escaped was low in order to use

darrow. i. i know that they, we didn't know what to come to us today and all that will be most elements, all the stake, a in, in the west bank and gaza. i will a was to end of your patient. but day to day it is a very different a situation. a why don't know is this will the, is that the, you'll have the about a half a 1000000 settlers into westbank, wiley in the time of also your day about 100000. and they, it became the biggest hell the full full of build on that agreement of to state a solution which i believe is the only one, but the only realistic a solution. that is why a group of buddies doing is a lead the by look to people who send me in a google, if he's rarely elated by me a it bill rebuild the book about a configuration it but it's doing a is rarely configuration last configuration in the parameters of the

a you'll be in your own so that the 2 states wouldn't be that totally independent and silver. but that would be a kind of an, a brand alpha configuration which was a low, those, these re lease. what we'd find them says in the police being in states, we bill said this is settlements to stay. there is so easily a citizens and by this opinion, the permanent residents, while the same non bill but experience, it will have the right to a come to eastward s, but his pinion is $0.50 and use variable residents. and that has nothing to do with the solution for the refugees, which would be symbolically financial and that refugees will be gone to is where the president of a few years will we be allowed to? is way we become for seek is is there any realistic deal myoshi that can be done given the pre eminence of the is really right in the, in the political sphere in,

in, in his real or do you sense that there is an opportunity for things to begin shifting back towards the center where left the letter. i don't think that the current government is these are a news, riley's ready for these because this is the petition of the that's the point. and then you'll have on both sides extreme east a and the address for the disagreement extremist, the some more minority a who believe that it is or the it's, it's a is 0 sum 0. so i'm, and do we believe in when, when and when we is possible, we know it by now because we had so many a, or we have had at least some serious attempts to find a permanent solution either formally or informally. that though we know by now, by now it, what is the solution? the only point is 1st the forward, as i said before,

sort of being the issue of day of day is settlers. and i believe that we have a solution for that. as i told you, and the other thing is you will have to, every does well courageous enough and are ready to accept the revised bill. all nice, a in order to get to get these. we know that people like a said, a said that like a rubbing and others did the golf balls. i hope that it would never happen again. but this is at least the day after that they will have to date. if you have such people, then you'll have peace as you and i met 20 years ago in israel, in tel aviv. and at that moment, it felt like this crisis, this ongoing ulcer in the world was strategically important. it was one of the world's hot fault lines, and i kind of feel that with the abraham accords with normally normalization efforts. right now, clearly underway between is real and saudi arabia,

that this is no longer a barrier or even, you know, you know, in the way of potential normalization in the broader middle east. are there any opportunities with this crisis becoming less strategically significant than it used to be a yes, because it is for us vi done to have be, it is vital for the but as being is glen van to the full for free the right so, so the donation and to and do a few patients and full isaac is vital to have a big boulder in the eastern side of the day. i will stay in order to show that is ryan, is a jury state, which is a democratic state and also a state for all the teachers in the common situation is very close to a situation of a jewish minority dominating and non julie is all about his opinion majority,

and that is that the end of the day of the dream of desire in his dream. a weight shade did not build on a, a, taking the rights of the people who lived here. and that is and, and now we, we can prove it. i mean, in my agreement, we double mazda in the 95, in the clinic, talk on it those of 2000 and in the genuine, you should give us 2003, and so on and so forth, that we don't have to a date, the rights of the other side in order to satisfy our own rights. so there is no real reason why not to do that. and it won't take too, too much time, hopefully to negotiate. because we have so much material, including an excess of hundreds of pages about what the about the electromagnetic space about the environment you name the we can make peace

is joe biden doing all he can to secure the piece that you've outlined? or is he not even on the field or nothing else? i mean i know him very well and the keys really a wonderful person and a when to read and knowledge but a about the conflict. and he still pulls a couple schools that will state the solution and he's a healthy that is in the right day place. and i hope also know if, if you succeed sweet and then no money ization between ease way. and so there may be a and if the opinion easterel is on the agenda a that he, he really helped us in going to world space. but i a free that he does not to high school fees agenda because you're not full of dishes. all file like this, and if fido is not a bill,

well no tie enough or not significantly enough. they have other priorities. i cannot blame me because it is our file. we have to extinguish it and, and, and finally, you see, when it comes to what you've articulated before, by way of confederation and support for a different franklin. going to be candid. i had not heard about this framing and you know, potential structure of governance before. what's the appetite in israel for that? what's the app it site on your palestinian on with your policy and contacts? your why did it did it did not become in the last a year and a half a. how's the, how's the, the finish we met week day the you and so good. the a be stuck with you is we made to wait to the american, the secretary of state a and day we, we are the leaders and they saw him and his does especially and others in the world . people say ok if you put

a students in his way to be so coming to us as couple of help in order to it for a implemented solution that you have already agreed upon. like we've also, we, we really have you or do you see a speaking about the under but as being a state a on the police being a side. and i, i remember that the president, the boss is said that he was ready to have the configuration with easily is right in jordan. so i don't think that there would be a real position delete in easley i. i don't believe that it would be very simple because those who are against it, those dates in motion of the position of the list would be or also against the configuration. because as i said, it is based on the publisher, but i've seen that see if we really succeed in getting off the table, the issue of the settlements between make it very oh is it we make it easy and look

very good is easier for those leaders or the future prime minister, it is way who is committed to make peace if it is not high on he is all heritage and then i don't believe that any solution would be as and what the other solutions mean. just say i am supporting the 2 state solution today is not enough. you must tell me how are you going to do that and we're suggesting that way. we'll take those dates and we'll thank you for that. you'll see belen former is really just this minister and one of the initiators of the oswell peace process more than 30 years ago. thanks so much for your candid use today. thank you. thank you very much indeed. now we turned them in stop our goodie who heads the palestinian national initiative party and former presidential candidate in palestine. we stop. it's great to see you and to talk to you. look, i mean you heard my conversation with former minister of justice in his real yoshi

bail and who was involved with the hospital force is 30 years and i'm trying to figure out where we're going in the future. what are the building blocks to finally move? what i sort of see is one of the word world's worst humanitarian alters towards a much healthy or equilibrium. and i'd love to get your insights and reactions. i think at the moment was that that that was built for the senior leadership of the piano and defended. and that's why i say so, because also i agreement does not include the most by the element which we were insisting on with the chevy, who was the head of the washington d. which is that before concluding. i mean, i agree meant that it has to be complete the thought of stop before the settlement activities, not quantity. because is there any set to do because we're really good according to

international law, but also because sometimes the lot of the amendments to make the desired movement used and continues to use to kind of push this. and actually that's exactly what happens because even does not include complete until the start of the one. so it is the number of really upset levels had increased. so 121019932 more than 700. $50000.00 to the that includes of course, the 2nd less than these 2 and i'm done today and that 50 lives have become not on the a group that is ok if i include cause alarm. but there has become a decisive force and is today the politics. they have for a few numbers and that is there any method. they are the ones who produced fascism in israel and the administrators likes most of the can be viewed. who don't try always. if i'm calling them, so specialist on the folks who uh said that there is no place for the city and

state. and then again, the goal is to send those to banquets up to this. so that was thing is with the annual for staples, dental, and their solution is the other thing is either should integrate or accept the life of subjugation for this system if i find, or i do believe that the ultimate goal then of the is really easy is to use the peace negotiations, you know, essentially as a way to annex and, and, and to kind of fully annex the west bank. yeah, absolutely. i think if i look historically, what happens is maybe some good will some people on the side, but the t all says one petals to the fields. that is also the fast and the father, which has for him to sit down and negotiate by the students. because there's a lot, but i q patient in the same way because as the younger existence and this all in

addition to the fusing, the 5, the 2nd of good was to be in time. so that'd be a kind of continual the one on the on set. and then the project of settling jewish isn't it is in the occupied territories. in reality, what happens in the band computing the lot stuff to use and even before is not dispense from? what does that do to 1940 it is where the good at the senior land. they took it away from the on the some of the people as they dismissed the 70 percent of the standards of the established by the students on that fine, 82 percent on the, on the, on the 3.5 percent of the where is this today? is continuing the same process and this not going to started. so and b, i p. what we faced with is i'm looking at it, it's our new one of the pipes. the fact that we've got is what we have as that is

of those as a deposit in my conversation with us the bell. and a minute ago, he talked about a framing i hadn't heard about before, which sort of a consideration style government to governments that largely exist under a, you know, what under attend, if you will. and said that he talked to, to gutierrez in the united nations, talked to all the mazda and a lot of people have given a week, a nod to this possibility and said they could live with that. can you live with a confederation? what are your views of this confederation proposal? and i totally disagree with mr. the amendment to pause and i will explain to you why. first of all, uh, in my opinion, also i agreement i could with the, the supplement expense and the framework off uh, what is called consideration is also trying to accommodate the assignments and the satellite is legally in those denies and violates international.

and the that is exactly the same kind of process that most of the building was involved in the agreements, graduate level events without insisting on stopping the main problem, which is supplements that i can use, the 2 states option. and because of that kind of policy, we end up losing. the whole idea is to get solution, i think is already kim. and if you can, well, i've come for the reason why it was because the same time about isn't it as it was, states only is that the nation of everything from national, in my opinion, the only solution that can substitute a you have a few of one of our types to is i want to do more connected states with everybody, but the city ends on isabel is enjoying the sandbags with a city i was want to have them up on the civil rights. and that's also the nation of rights and will have the same, but i sense determination. but in slavery by this thing is in the so called the

configuration. why is set to the man in the us bank? and even without allowing us to have the cds web display from their homeland in 1940 that by itself is nothing but an effort to come with the doing of the commission to commit the sacrament expansion. and it is a way of adjusting, adjusting the situation. the deluxe is the government's loan, but also, besides the point that we had an island isn't as a refresher and the, the most exciting institute of this vision and these guys will not accept those test. do not accept, want to stay on the want is to give you the actual stuff i was thinking and see if they would not be stopped by another round of negotiations. they wouldn't be stuck on the, by the simians insisting on this,

that fastness and the defense and by i to avoid some insights. and it's going to be, i guess, the system a staff or, or excuse me, abraham accords matter to what you are trying to achieve. or are they irrelevant as you look at the prospects of put a potential salary is really normalization. does that undermine palestinian situation? or is this just all surface noise that really doesn't matter to your efforts what it's most to be accurate? from on 5 it's a step in the back of the palestinians because of the whole idea of normalization that was initiated by the system. of course, the design was made or established by the hour and so the whole idea of normalization is about liquidating the policy managed by the student,

which is that's exactly what nothing else is often the says, the problem is most of our students, we should make it feasible that us, but in all these actions, you get to the fact that there is nothing uh more with body or with the image is the problem with the students because it does look to buy the land. but as you saw in money from one side, these agreements, of course, had it to the price to me. and because, because it is used by isn't it into matters you know, like the new issue. but on the effects of all these companies, the did not have that on these ladies pending to come on to other students. i mean, we know that for many years, many of them have secret relations with isn't the most important point that dismissed the bike is very nice and by the international community is that they've gotten this of the government's normalization. the people of these countries do not

know my location. i had these agreements with egypt since 1978. they had a peace agreement with jordan since 1994. do they have normalization with the people? some of these companies, of course not on the speak about a few minutes on the egyptian or the t wants to visit with jordan. right? so in reality, these normalization activities do not have access to by the peoples of these countries and stay on the surface. and the issue with governments not with countries. finally mustafah. i'm just interested in how you see the future. do you see time on your side? you see time on the israeli side? you know, what do you see in palestine that will be free one day? absolutely. so domestic about that, and i know i, that's pretty good at this, of the, of, and we have service. i'm going to buy the behavior to so many governments and don't

want specially wisdom governments will keep speaking about to step solution by doing nothing to stop the the stuff. and that's, that is significant. this is, this is what i'm not even a bad, a tentative and solve the problem as i was looking for sanctions in regard to the home that i viewed the same question has never been understood. what is life as it is to the and i believe that's the kind of thing and people, i mean by that all of the seasons, whether they live inside is read or in the occupied. if it is often they ask us on when they find on united now about the goal of what the want as a disparity, i believe that we wouldn't get to leave them towards. but frankly, speaking could, will not be as to be them within a small, it's a step in get pause that isn't. and instead of just by cutting the back into pieces, it would be 3 of them within one democratic, 3 states,

a democratic steve. and i see that clearly i'm hoping is the only solution to the situation that we have. so the democratic steve is the, on the substitute to i thought i'd see steve to the i think you definitely have to when we stop our goody head of the palestinian national initiative party. thank you so much for your candor and for joining us today. thank you. thank you so much. so what's the bottom line? when we look at how nations behavior are essentially no rules, there is no morality, just energy. real is believe it anarchy has to be bent to rules and norms through the use of hard power. no one understands hard power more than the israelis and palestinians. the words israel survived against it's eric neighbor's power to emerge from. and so to eventually palestine will need power on its side to establish a different future equilibrium with israel. the problem for palestine today though, is it as move from being one of the world's fault lines, to becoming

a strategically less significant, more in quagmire, but making the moral case and shaming the nightmare of occupation is just not going to be enough to solve this long standing occupation and that regrettably is the bottom line. the on selection question is war with one, the imminent rigorous debate for dine because of black lives. don't really matter in the police. join me markham, on hill upfront without 0 beauty and richness of nature. need to be harmonized. switch stable and sustainable goals. united with the diversity of cultures that quick jakarta, indonesia is ready to hold the 2023 ations something together. we will lose

bit patient matters at the center of the carry johnston and dial. the touch store is now on the i'll just there is there a week since devastating floods in libya killed thousands of people. international aid has begun arriving, but it's been slow to reach the worst hit areas. recovery operations are on the way of a search for bodies washed out to see that the 900 buildings have been destroyed and tens of thousands of people have been displaced. good. she dials his deputy director general of the international organization for migration.