the resilience in times of time on the phone and the 5 us prisoners freed from jail in iran, the heading to go home. that's part of the deal that requires washington to release 5, arabians the ultimate cry. this has l. just their life from doha. also coming up a face off in the hague, russia objects to the un quotes jurisdiction in a genocide kaiser ruled by you cried. well, the latest gather to the you in general assembly with the climate crisis and to

warn you trying top of the agenda and the korean task of identifying victims of fonts in libya with thousands of people. a still missing the, but we begin and we're major prisoners swap between the us and the rom this underway. it's part of the day on broad could find cutoff to 2 years of indirect negotiations. well, these are pictures of 5 americans live in toronto after being released from around the in prison. the flight is to go home is expected to land its own. on an exchange, the u. s. has released 5 iranians from its giles. 2 of them have landed in our high and will be on routes to around under the agreements. the u. s. has also allowed to release of $6000000000.00 the frozen around in funds that money has been

transferred to cause us washington says toronto will have restricted access to those funds and couldn't only use it for humanitarian needs. how much it and sorry is spokesperson for capital is foreign ministry and advise them to the prime minister, and he joins us from new york. thank you very much for being on al jazeera english as a festival. i mean, as i mentioned before, it took almost 2 years of in direct negotiations. what do you think was finally enabled this deal to come together? thank you for having me, as you said, that i be so that to you in the meetings in the to both the and, and the b. c took place on behalf of the company, a official starting with the good 5 minutes to under because we the minister of the state, the number to facilitate this deal. i think there was a genuine need from all a genuine need from all parties to each this the disagreements and that was

a lot of the assets on all the parties to reach the agreement that had taken place at the i know eagerly awaiting as the bible indo how effect q i 7312, which will be getting the and there can be k need that. who will that step of that and don't have and on the way to the final destination in the united states and the in, in the rental also have that i in the endo, has to be headed over to the i mean side and to return to their home countries as the as possible, so they disagree with the code was tucked with the equipment of change. but the headboard is also included in it. the, the human humanitarian, financial channel, and the into a how that was the affinity he might take in, needs to be on the people's or, and what do you think the cutoff was so well place to help negotiate this deal? obviously a play this usually pivotal role here. i've got the, as the, as you know,

if i thought a has had a lot of success when it comes to mediation in the counseling the case, the bit is not the prototype. i'd like to mediate between the 2nd party, but especially between 18 and on, and the not to say there's been a lot the 54. i forgot that in the many stages of the talks between the 2 sides. because i had sent a dated in director and to hear that before then had facilitate the exchange of the ideas on as that you still fixed on this topic. especially i think the trust that has been. busy through a cup, out of the relationship that you think you could like to ship with the united states. as it was the thing they could imagine non nato allied by the united states . and they simply and look into that and ship with add the public effect on, on back at the topics has it made cover to be of a suitable mediator on the, on this. and you have hopeful that it's what she'll be on. ready which side of the

. busy in the media, things with the suicide got hopeful that to the agreement will have a uh, you know, a pushing text in for editing a lot of the comprehensive. again, it's on the issues between the 2 tight just on the head points. how likely is it, i mean, you talk about how trust and, and heart, how likely is it to, how hurtful i you, that talks could proceed on, on other issues between the us and around. ok. well, we are quite helpful. this is that's really been a trust building measured between the 2 packets. and you had hopeful that to, with this agreement in place, it was the case of montague all the more comprehensive the topics and the most. maybe i thought they could take it to the gateway and the possibility of getting back to me know that there are lots of difficulty. there are lots of challenges in the end to talk between the 2 sides. but we have hopeful that with this,

you may take any channel in that place and would never swap that, that would open the door from a comprehensive dialogue in the, in the future. and we've been quite helpful. and we are, we're main committed to playing a positive on for the sake of stability and the agent that'd be on me. there's been a lot of talk about the $6000000000.00 and exactly what and how that should be used . and we know that it's meant to be used for humanitarian aid, who decides what constitutes humanitarian eyes? well, i can tell you cuz i can't go into the specifics of the technical side of the agreement financially. but i can tell you that within 2 years, but like in discussions have been held on, they've got to being and they maintain and guaranteed all that'd be the amount that the budget now and to have the humanitarian, the channel has a specifically a mock. busy a food the i, the medicine medical. ready equipment that i,

i get the actual products and that is mainly for the use of said that you may take a size of the, from the i mean the people on the golden agreed by the side very comprehensively. we know that the, the american side and the. ready inside have has a lot of items discussed on the back issue and the agreement that has been rate in each make sure that uh no, a condition that agreed upon between both parties where we're not to be met by disagreement. okay, thank you so much. we really do appreciate your time and your insight into this issue, this much. it l, i'm sorry, spokesperson for catalyst for administer the ministry who is in new york at the moment when we're on con, has moved from the hot international airport where the prisoners are expected to arrive. or what will happen is they'll land on the tarmac and they'll go into the building. and they have the terminal building to be met by the categories,

by delegations, from the u. s. embassy. and from the us state department. we don't know whether they're going to stay here, or they'll go to how about international airport just a few miles down the road. but they will go to the united states of america, where they will be given a medical evaluation and then a security debriefing. but this deal is very controversial since it was triggered by the transfer of $6000000000.00. that was a running oil money that was frozen in south korea by the americans under the sanctions rules. and that money has now been released. it was sent by south korea to switzerland, switzerland, and send that money to the banks in castle at once. cattle had confirmation receipt of that money, then the prison exchange was allowed to take place only around the inside to arrive around an american citizens will be released and they'll stay in the us. they have us call us both. 2 of those will fly back to, to her on a one will go to a 3rd country where his family resides now on both sides. iranian sites that the

americans arrested were accused of spies. the american side of the wrong is that they arrested, were accused of working for an enemy state effectively and the running government and they were sanctions busting and that's why they were arrested. but the deal is now been done, but it was catherine mediation, the effective you got it done. this was 2 years in the making the 1st year a lot of diplomacy going on, visits from the kids. how are you delegation to washington to tyrone? but in the last year, uh, the delegations both came to the how that was site and different hotels, they never actually physically met. it was the epitome of shuffled diplomacy, victories going from one hotel to another, with deals with advice, all of that kind of thing. it's been a very difficult process, but now the guitar is say that it has been very successful. but this doesn't mean by any stretch of the imagination that the is a piece stealing the process between the 2 countries. this is a very isolated deal. they still far apart on issues and they've still very remote

from sitting around the table and negotiating a fine with them a okay, let's bring in now white house correspondent, kimberly help kids to talk about the reaction in the united states and can be how controversial is this deal because i understand that there are some political latest, they have the claiming fight and his effectively paid rent some money to the iranians with the steel is the certainly are those things happen to help? particularly some conservatives, republicans on capitol hill in the us congress who have been bull cold, particularly as social media criticizing the fight in administration. arguing that it has conceded too much that this will now encourage ron to detain other americans . and even 1st, the iranian economy putting at risk, for example, us of troops in the region and others that may be vacationing in the area. as a result, there are a lot of people that are unhappy with this deal,

but the vine administration is vigorously defending it, saying that this was the right deal of the right time. the alternative would be that some of these americans potentially have spent the rest of their lives in prison in the bottom administration says that when joe biden came to office, he made a promise to bring americans home. the opportunity was there, and so he seized it and they are underscoring, but at no time, are they at any point, going to make sure that a ron does not misuse these funds, they say there is going to be oversight. this money belongs to be a ronnie. a people is going to be vigorously monitored in terms of making sure it is used for adequate purposes for helping the a rolling of people. and i is, this is really something that in terms of these pros and funds is something that needs to be returned to the iranian people who are in many cases struggling and,

and need the help. so the binding ministration says this is the right deal for the right time, and they're making no apologies. look, given all of that, and we've had others talked about this as well. how likely is it that it could actually lead to, towards, on other issues between the 2 countries is the, the appetite for that in the us. a what i liked uh, your 1st guess to, uh, was involved in some of these negotiations. there doesn't seem to be the same optimism as, for example, some of the, the categories who were intimately involved and some of the shuttle diplomacy of the us team that has been a part of this is being less optimistic. in fact, they're saying they really see this as being quite separate in terms of restarting the talks with regard to the jcp away, we see this as a completely separate issue. they say that what this is, is

a deal to bring americans home. the j cpo way is a separate concern altogether. they are concerned about the fact that a ron is continuing to enrich uranium to near weapons grade. they are watching very carefully as the un general assembly begins, the spaces that will be made there. and they point out the fact that they are continuing to sanction iran as recently as last friday over concerns about human rights abuses of pointing out the fact that along with the united states has been canada, australia, and britain for the death of mass. i'm me. c when you're a go, so a ron is still of concern with regard to regional stability of on the part of the united states as well as human rights abuses and, and also with its nuclear activity. and that will not change because of the still says the binary ministration. okay, thank you so much. that is kimberly how could white house correspondent for us in

the us or? okay, let's go to and we're on con, who's at the full here. and that's where the 5 fried us prisoners are expected to land in the coming hours. uh, as we mentioned before, were plenty of moving parts here. what happens once they do lands? they are in dire? ha. well let me show you where i am right now. i see on the tarmac uh, just move out the way you see what that white tub plane is. the roommate just behind that, so the plane should land as an 8320, the flu from the hair about airport, about 19 minutes ago were expecting them to ride within the next half hour or so. the plane will taxi to hit, then i will just give you another shows uh, the free prisoners will call you back to that terminal building. that whether we met by the categories, by representatives of the usa embassy and the us state department. now we don't know whether they're going to stay here or where they'll go to how many international airports,

few miles away from here. but then like you to go to america very quickly, that will be given a medical evaluation and a security debrief on the iranian side. uh sir, they are running prisoners, remain in the states directing us citizens to will fly back to, to her on and one will slides with the country where his family resides. that's the bad buttons of the do, but it was triggered very early this morning on monday morning by a bank transfer of 6000000000 dollars. now that $6000000.00 was actually seized by the us in south korea. south korean under these new sanctions waivers return, you apply to this deal, send that money to switzerland, switzerland sent it to doha. had some banks in doha. once the categories got confirmed that, then all of these living posts came together. we've seen the americans, both the plaintive and her about apple. there was a visible sense of relief as they were getting on that plane. like i say,

we're expecting them to be hit with about food to minutes and run. we heard from us . what has correspondents, kimberly how could just before about how likely it could be that this could lead to discussions on other issues between the 2 countries. she was saying that there wasn't much of it from the us perspective. what about the, the iranian perspective? where as i add, when it comes to being more open to discussions between the us and themselves. well, there's a lot of suspicion from the iranians have been very public about since they've said that the american simply don't stick to any deal to make or shake with. i missed a certain level of truth without the j. c, p. o, a. the during the comprehensive plan of action was negotiated by a president obama. it came into effect quite quickly. volumes stuck to the deal. they didn't actually break any of the deal. and then along came president, donald trump, who actually just wrapped up the deal and not schools,

a lot of suspicion. now that has been some talk about getting the policies back to the table. we have very far away from that. but that may well be a glimmer of hope, the erroneous or hurtful that there might be some sort of in direct negotiations. the template of which may well be this type of deal mediated by the categories that might be an option. but even so, even then in direct negotiations on anything other than site, for example, at present release on major issues, seem incredibly rims. okay, a month. well, you've mentioned the money to $6000000000.00. uh that is just being transferred from south korea to switzerland to dar hon. who, who decides with that money can be spent, i guess, who decides what constitutes humanitarian need here as well. that's the most controversial thing for the iranians. remember, this is actually a run in money, but it comes with strings attached. now,

of the iranians are only allowed to spend this money on humanitarian, a known sanction materials such as medicines, food examples, the categories and the americans have said they going to watch how the run in spend this money very carefully. if there's an in click that it might be being spent on humanitarian issues and they'll simply stop giving out the money to the running. however, president pricey has said that this money will be spent on the needs of the running people. it inside you monetary, you said the needs of the, of our new people. now that may well be for domestic consumption, not maybe him talking to his domestic audience, but there are strings attached to this deal. it's simply not $6000000000.00. the iranians can spend on site itself, weapons if they want. it does come with strings attached, like a site. very controversial in iran, thought it was the deal that they negotiated and it had, it is the deal that's been done. and a thank you so much for that is, and we're on con, for us, at the airport. and, uh huh. well,

let's recap of the details of the steel casa, in switzerland to play the pot and facilitating negotiations between around and the united states. 3 of the 5 american prisoners had been named, say, who faced charges of espionage in around the washington says they've been unjustly detained in turned, 5 iranians accused of secretly working for toronto will be released. the iranian government says that innocence, and have been legally detained as a result of crude sanctions. the u. s. allowed the release of around the in funds that were frozen in south korea. that money 1st went to switzerland and then on to cause a $6000000000.00 of iranian oil. revenue is now the bank accounts and thought, huh. the us is told on can only use that money for humanitarian needs as well. no, sir, and how about kelly? is a full book, it's how are you invested it to the united nations. he says they will be making

those them implies full contact in the us, 2 of the see how a rum spins the unfrozen funds. and i'm sure, you know, cut the has view board in negotiation between these 2 countries and the cut off as and i live with united states. and then the neighbor here on we'd be happy to play a role which will bring them together and to create this thing for the agent. but i am sure there is, and we kind of them when cut out will be unblocked, then to make sure that the money is spent on the uh, for the invoices that we have agreed to. uh, of course the job would be the judge, but i hope everybody would be committed to evaluate committed themselves to a so because kind of in this situation is that going to that.

ready such money and such funds will be spent on goes, which when heard that, and then people boss salon is a senior research fellow at the center for middle east strategic studies. he says, the agreement code, i think the don't want to fill the in direct talks between around in the us. this is the final phase of the prisoner swab, but this could be a beginning for extended and for the talks on the 2 negotiations as well as lifting the sanctions against the run. but there's an issue whether that the americans will be able to do with before their election in the us or not. at least i think the talks can move in direction of the targets and the goals of the the 2015 if the deal. and this is quite important, and so the pool is flow over, effect is important in this regard, and this can be a new beginning for,

for the talks between the one and the united states. however, in the way, they have been discussions that how they can spend this money that you ran and then america size. what they have in common is that these are going to be spend for non science and goods. and i have been hearing from you in, in the officials that will suffice them to, to be able to buy the commodities that they need in the country. so, um, that will not be any specific problem in this regard. uh so generally, you know, we can put it that it can be use the amount of money for a non sanction goods. uh, which can include the humanitarian, the goods or the others as well, which are not being on percent. well, we are expecting the plan that is taken off from toronto land here at the doha airport and the next 10 minutes or so. we will be back after a short break. stay tuned. of

the for the fighting seems likely in for example, thailand, i mean ma, those warnings act as a result of that. and this blue with kathy would suggest is also study which areas are some possibilities. certainly, central. some philippines are in for some quite heavy dime. pulls that right and hasn't done his file size is java, but it is edging into in an easier, increasingly which is seasonally correct. this is not quite so it seems to me correct. this is late heavy rain for this part of china, which is stretched out across the yellow sea to the korean peninsula. ahead is that it's still remarkably warm. you might even describe it as halt. for example, in turkey, most of home shoes, health and human about 6 degrees hops with vine each should be and this continues for at least a couple more days. in india, this is incorrect for this time. the funding in might have, i would suggest it's still raining heavily and go drop it. is that

a warnings act as a result of that because you would expect the rain to be disappearing then maybe that hasn't yet gone this month. even reach southern practice time it might give some rain in karachi and if he does that will be equally, if not most uh, unusual. this is more usual rain, the further east in indiana catching bangladesh. and increasingly, it's still falling down the western gaps, the beginning to ideals, the french republic has long proclaimed. but just what is more than friends in a full talk series, the big picture takes and in depth ness france insight. episode one on ality sierra

the the the, you're watching, you'll just hear a reminder of our top story is the south 5. all right. and then americans have voted to fly to, to in toronto in a day on the go share to buy cars on they are expected to land in doha, shortly. in exchange, the us has released iranians from its giles, 2 of them have already arrived in dog, hon. broke, this is a map of flight right uh, which shows uh the planes which is on its final approach from toronto to dog ha, at the airport is m. ron khan, who is standing by for us. that's with the 5 fried us prisoners. are expected to

land in the next few minutes and what sort of uh, what will happen once they do land? um what, uh, what will be expected of them. uh, once they are in dog. ha. of the, well let me just before on so that let me just show you where i am, is a visible change. the results are very excited. the people, particularly from the us embassy, who are now actually just waiting for those people to arrive, expecting that to happen. some point in perhaps the next 20 or 30 minutes to land on that's hallmark that and then they'll come here the platinum taxi and where go this and bought go go to the terminal building. that's just about that. that's where they'll be met by representatives of the us, m c. and the state department. on the category delegation, they likely to leave a fairly quickly what they need from here or how about international apple. we

don't know, but they don't go to the us in the us. they'll be given a medical evaluation and a security debriefing. now when you run inside, like you said to or on the as back you already arrived to, if you haven't been able to confirm that independently been a certainly been pictures of others are audience arriving. they're likely the ones that i've gotten to go to to run 2 of those for you to prisoners are actually us citizens that hold you as possible still remain within the us. and the 5th and iranian citizen will go to a 3rd country where he resides with his family. now, the ron inside the americans were spying the american side of the rhone units were working full of the running government, old sanctions busting. but the deal old began very heavy on monday morning with the frank transfer by transfer of 6000000000 dollars. it was very complicated. it went from south korea where the money was seized uh on the site, just a little by the us is actually running low on money that went to switzerland.

switzerland then sent that money to the home was kept, i'll have receipt of that money. this whole thing began to happen as those prisoners within taken from the present to the airport. so this is been a very, very complicated deal to negotiate 18 months west of to see if it's any of shuffled diplomacy. me the size actually met face to face the categories. how's it going from? hotel to hotel negotiating to working with each party, bringing back that on says it's a very slight moving process about 8 rounds, at least, of talks taking place. but this was a deal that's been done, took 2 years to do, but it's only taking 2 hours for that flight to lead to a road to ride hey, pretty soon. and it's so hard to national apples. and what we'll do, we know about the prisoners on board. well 2 of them have been named, one of them is see about the mozy. he's actually had a very big um, uh,

with a and social media campaign to allow him to be free. 2 of them have not been, they had a name, they have names, i've actually been with health. we think at the request of the families, one of them is actually a professor. um, it seemed like the policy was actually just a ronnie business when he was picked up on the legit allegation sort of spying, giovanni and i haven't actually named that people they were holding those names. so we don't know the identities of those people. the americans haven't released those names either. what did they will? oh, no roommates was saying it's unlikely event that that will happen. but again, like i said, both sides accusing the lives of working for their respective governments. i'm for sanctions costing and for spying for that's now all of us. and like i said, they're about to arrive here. the big question is, is this a sign of a new deal between the us and 0 audience, or was this a silo de la,

completely separate due to everybody else has been going in with it from the us? how controversial and contentious this deal as many uh, not happy with bite and signing off on it, but how does it still being viewed and around? there's that same sense of controversy around us there is a sense of controversy around this deal. like i said earlier, this is actually around the money is around in more money that was in itself. correct? long city running. a government wants to be around in people. there are strings attached to this deal. they colleges wilkin. i take as much money as i want in spend, how they would like. there are strict parameters as to how they are very the are on instance, spend this money to run. it's heavy and that means food medicines, they search for the categories i'm the us will be monitoring how the money is spent . us some said if there's any inkling that isn't being spent on demand is hiring 8 them of us the categories.