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rich stream conditions together and transport this dangerous but precious cargo risk and your phone you on al jazeera, the net locked into how the top stories here on al jazeera and at least 52 people have been killed and applause to the religious gathering. mustang in the pac starting province of religious done separately, at least 5 people were killed in explosion at the mosque in the city of hungry, near the shop. uh, no, no, no, i was passing near to the router when the last happened. i don't know, the reason is i came in conscious have to bloss i was scared to i so so many bodies lying here and their bodies were lying for it is 2 hours out into these people with
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severe injuries have been admitted to you and god willing they'll be on right, i talked to an old on medicine so available. so with god's help, we'll manage everything set up. appreciate what was it again that a suicide bomber blew himself up inside the mosque. the roof of the building came crashing down. risk you, if it's continue and they are no more dead bodies inside united nations. this morning, the number of people fling to go to car back could go past 100000 ethnic on medians of streaming out of the region. more than a week after, as the by john took control in a swift ministry, offensive media. it says about 3 sides of the population is left by johnny governments is urging the comedians to stay and go in the car back. it has not explained how they would be reintegrate. the united nations will now send the mission to the goal. we haven't had access their 2 bucks in about 30 years. so it's important. it's very important that we will be able to get in. we will going through a into the air from us or by john. um,
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while they are the team will seek to assess the situation on the ground and identify the humanitarian needs with both for both people remaining and the people that are on the move us president joe biden is staying in washington dc over the weekend to try to put a possible federal government shutdown. congress needs to agree on a new funding bill by the end of this month, if not thousands of federal employees will be sent home. republicans and democrats often push budget negotiations right to the frank dianne feinstein, the longest serving female member of the us senate has died at the age of 90. the california democrats was known for supporting bills on gun control and the environment she'd been on well and was planning to retire the end of her time. next year. earlier this morning we lost a giant in the senate. senator dianne feinstein was one of the most amazing
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people who ever graced the senate. whoever graced the country, she had so many amazing, wonderful qualities. wrapped up in one incredible human being. she was smart. she was strong. she was brave. she was compassionate. the economic ties and migration are at the top of the agenda for the visit between us and mexican officials. the main thing is taking place in washington, dc. any of us? yeah, mexico became the us as long as trading partner with the influx of migrants from across central america into the us, from the mexican border as being the source of tension. us extra state entity blinking says both sides want to create the right incentives and business environments in that country is created between when people can make a living. when they have confidence in their economic security. when they can put food on the table for their kids. when they can build a future at home,
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hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. how worried or american voters about a presidential election with a choices between one candidate is getting up there a little bit in age and then other who might be convicted of crimes before election day. let's get to the bottom line with us presidential elections about a year away. all signs point to a rematch between president joe biden and former president donald trump. but along the way, a lot of stuff could happen. congress is investigating whether binding benefited from his family's business dealings. is it a fishing expedition or could it lead to is impeachment? meanwhile, trump balances from one legal proceeding to another in 3 different states. and a 4th trial here in the nation's capital, which is technically not a state. and besides the personal challenges of the parties leading candidates,
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how about the most pressing issues facing americans today, like violent crime or like trying to get by in this economy? to find out more about where the american people stand these days, we're talking to 2 leading pollsters. jeff, forward of heart research, which does research for the democratic party and mike roberts of public opinion, strategies, which does research for the republican party. gentleman is great to have you or i always love the shows where i can get a snapshot and take the temperature of all americans by talking to folks like yourself. let me start with you, mike, and ask how thrilled are americans with this choice of joe biden? and donald trump, which i know is not solidified yet, but that's where things look right now. well, it's great to be on and i would just say americans aren't looking forward to that match up more or less. people are saying that that's not the kind of uh, candidates, uh, candid matchup that they want. although um, you know, that is, that does seem to be where things are headed. and people have made up their minds
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about those 2 candidates fairly in the large portion because they're so well known and they get to compare what a president the presidency under trump looks like versus what a presidency under under binding looks like. and so there's a lot that people understand about these 2 candidates know about them, but a lot of the calling says that people aren't too excited about that match up. so let me ask you a question. why is the system so stuck that only these 2 to what's the, what is happening in the us political system that we're ending up with 2 non optimal choices that the nation is looking at. i mean, how, how do your republican can you know, conversational to see it as well, in terms of why we're stuck in this choice? one of the main reasons is because of for better for worse,
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donald trump is the kind of the, the, the center of gravity of american politics. and we asked a question in this poll about, or are you voting me or for donald trump or against joe biden? among truck motors and we asked the same thing and then bind orders. we said, are you voting more for a for binding or against the truck? in both instances the plurality said, oh no, this is a way more about truck for me than it is about buying. so even among vines voters, this is a referendum on trump. he is continue to be the center of, of the economic, i'm sorry, of the political conversation. and even as there is, you know, there's only one president at a time. and in america, he has kind of gotten enough of the limelight that this, this is for one conclusion that we're talking about is a lot because of the coverage that he continues to get. and mostly negative coverage from january 6 from is multiple indictments. and just from just being
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a newsworthy figure, an individual that that news outlets honestly wants to cover because of the ratings that they get. so that's where we and that's part of the problem of the, of the well problem. that's part of the system. systematic structure here that's keeping this locked into this kind of less than optimal choice for voters. just let me ask you the same question, but you know, as you kind of look at the democratic side, one of the things that surprising to me candidly, would love you to comment are the polls out there that right now that said if the election were held tomorrow trump would get about 43 percent of the vote by and we get about 43 percent. there's still about 14 percent out there sorting it out. and i am surprised by that because, you know, i think if i honestly were wanting to run a guess present trumpet. so maybe independents are a little bit worried about the guy. maybe these convictions matter to some americans, it would look like a slam dunk for the democrats. so what is going on on your side of the equation of
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the people you're talking to? yeah, so steve, but 2020 election never ended. mm hm. we and this is not, we are not living through a normal time. this is not what donald trump keeps saying. you never know what and, and, and, and he's the reason why. and the republican party is the reason why it never ended . we have not been in a situation where the losing candidate and election refused to accept the results lied to january 6th and, and, and that is fundamentally different than anything we've ever experienced. and so mike is quite right, this question. we've asked us up and it's a really important question is what's your vote about? and we have access to other times and there was an incumbent president in 2004 at george w bush and then 2012 at brock obama, both times a majority of voters that this, this'll actually my choice is about the incumbent president. that's not what is happening now and, and that is a really important point is that donald trump did not fade away after the election, which most losing candidates, do he still front and center?
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and that's what this of election about that's between 20 election was about a majority of binding voters when asked who about why my voting is to get donald trump out of office. we're still in effect, reside of getting that election. and that's what is fundamentally differential with mike is saying that donald trump, this is all about trump, you mean he's, he's got a strong point. there is a very strong point, and that's where the debate tonight is going to be about trump, even though he's not in there where he won't be there. and so that's what fundamentally is different about the selection. and i'd take your point about the democratic or concerns in the democratic side. i mean, let me just just jumping to ensure your graphic here for, you know, a 2nd about concerns about president biden's age and, and the, and the fact is around and we get in that for a minute. but when we see that, you know, when, when uh, nbc news pull well says that when it comes to physical and mental health concerns about joe biden, with binding its 74 percent with trump is 47 percent. they're only 3 years apart, right? ones in his high seventy's the others and his low eighty's. so what's going on
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there and why is age hitting one so much more significantly than the other? yeah. so i think like the, the there are we have, we have a majority of have major concerns about about, about biden's house. and also majority are concerned about trump and his and the trials and what that will mean for the, for, for the, for him and his ability to serve as, as, as president if he were elected. the important thing about these concerns is that they're not all equal. so that yes, people are concerned about biden's age. but if you look at people who are, are major concerns about them, they're still a good chunk of those voters, almost the one and 5 who are voting for advice for president. that's not the same for those who have major concerns about trump and the ends trials, january 6th and his involvement there. it's a fundamentally different level of concern. so if you ask concern that doesn't necessarily mean they're not there, they're gonna, they're not voting for by them because those are 2 very different issues. the question for voters is, do you want?
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what has happened over these last few years with joe biden? and campbell harris administration, where it is a more confident focus demetrius and get his out of cobit or do you want to return to the chaos and division and are really messy and, and even response to co bed, which i think most americans don't want. and that's, that's rep proof in our, in our paul mike, another factor out there that's, you know, getting tossed into the soup of all of this are, you know, issues about impeachment inquiries and, you know, the, the efforts, you know, tied into issues of funding. the government, the government shut down or is an impeachment inquiry into the behavior of joe biden. let's listen to this clip from congressman matt gates. i'd love to get your thoughts. joe biden deserves impeachment for converting the vice presidency into an atm machine for virtually his entire family. so mike and that's also in the mix. and what i'm trying to figure out is how americans are hearing this. do they do? they think there's something there, do they think this is a, you know,
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in solvent fishing expedition? will it have any traction, politically, from your point of view right now, or was it too early to tell? and i think americans are much more concerned about what their own atm looks like then about that kind of comment about about buying right now because of jeff. talked about the kind of contrast that americans are making between these 2 candidates. and of course, you know, there's not, it's not, there hasn't been a single vote cast yet. so we talked a lot about trump, but the culture of the other contract, so they can make between these 2. can this is what the economy looked like under uh, president trump compared to what is looked like over the last few years. and that is a, that isn't a really important contrast when we were doing the cnbc pool, which is a quarterly pulled. and i do as well with the heart, with the talented folks that are research um during the trip years,
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it was record after record, after record of high economic confidence, people felt like things were finally uh, the economy is finally moving forward. um cobit hits and it got very messy to, to, to just point. but since then, you know, inflation has taken a real hit and a real chunk out of out of people's economic confidence. and now for the last couple years, what we've seen is record low record, low record, low confidence over and over and over. and we've been measuring that all of these things since the great recession. and we're even seeing lower confidence on so many measures compared to even the midst of the great recession. and so talk about contrast, i think in this pull, an important contrast that people are made is for the 1st time actually for the highest margin, for republicans in terms of this basic thing. who do you trust more to take care of
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and handle the economy? republicans have a 21 point advantage is the highest we've measured in the nbc, poland going back 30 years. so we can have a conversation about contrast and these 2 administrations. but i think an important part of that is the economic realities people are facing. well, it's an out, i mean, just, mike, let me just drill down a little bit further with you on that. um, you know, not too long ago, joe biden, and his team is economic advisor, janet yelling here at bernstein others in the economics fear of buying land here about that. this is how great vide nomics is the named economics after this present . is that a loser from your perspective, given the anxieties americans are feeling? well, let's just look at what the president is promising. he's promising economic growth from the middle out and bottom up. and if you look at the data over the last 2 years, who gets crushed? who's getting crush the bottom of the economic scale and the middle class? again, in this pull, we found a 2 point margin for democrats having an advantage,
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the democratic party having an advantage on handling and looking out for the middle class. we see record low and measures of your economic satisfaction in your personal economic satisfaction. and so both of those things tell me that that message is not penetrating. yes, he asked to go out and talk about this because it's a, that's a gaping hole in a weakness and his, and his re election bit. but the idea that by the nomics right now is a net positive for this president is really a base play. i don't think many people outside of you know, the core core. vitamin motor is hearing that and believes it. because again, he's making a promise that doesn't actually isn't being reflected right out. right. jeff is, is by nomics a winning bumper sticker. and let me just add an element. the president,
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the united states, went out and, and went to a store, you know, strike with united off auto workers. went to a picket line. and you know, a lot of those striker, you know, the folks that are striking at united auto workers in this labor dispute with general motors are out there. because if they're concerned about elect electric vehicles and about renewable energy and about a guy and about various things that the by the administration has champions. so here's the present united states striking in some ways against the policies he brought to this economy. how is this playing with, with people you're talking to? well, it's important if you say you're going to be the most pro union president in history, you need to show up when the, when the labor man is under attack. i know because the car is that right that's, that's that, that, that is a part of what's going on here. but if use and then you have to show up, he's showing up here and he is delivering on what he promised much like is delivering on the economy. and yes, i'm getting them and now pump some of these things, some it well,
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and it's important. it's also important to remember that uh, you know, the term obamacare when the affordable care act was passed was, was at the beginning, was it was not a popular term and tell president obama embrace. so you said, yeah, it's a obama care if i'm gonna get people on health insurance and save people's lives and make a difference for people. yeah, i'm going to own that in the same way. the president biden is doing that now with the nomics. and remember it's, that's a small part of a if everything is doing the economy, he is that mike is quite right on the middle of the last number that isn't really important number the can't be a plus to, for democrats, us must be much higher. but when you, when you're talking about the inflation reduction act, you're talking about lowering prescription drug costs for people on medicare. and that's gonna go across the board now for instance, prizes because of the drug companies being forced by president binding the lower cost in his work on trying to lower the cost for education and the are those things matter and do they? are people feeling them right now? no, not as much as, as, as they need to but,
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but the more that message is delivered in the more you can see the infrastructure and the impact, but that's out on jobs and also people's travel times. all those things matter, and that's part of what we're going to see over the next year. how much is this? you know, the tech tonics and the divide between the different, you know, wings of the republican party that seem to be constantly. and i think terrorizing speaker, kevin mccarthy, something that the nation is irritated, but how much is that is playing into it and how much of that is inside the bubble of washington dc that in for a regular motor. i think that a lot of that, that internal fighting is, is not as important as the kind of solutions that the administration needs to have on addressing crime on addressing immigration and getting an inflation actually doing something to get inflation lower. jeff talked about prescription drug prices, which may be very important, but, but at the end of the day, what we're really struggling with is grocery prices, gas prices,
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and we've got an administration that's taking a very, very aggressive stance on against our own energy independence. and so when people talk about crime, immigration, energy policy, i think those are the types of conversations that americans want to have way more than then in fighting in, in either party. um, you know, and we're on the middle of a, of a republican primary. i mean, we're going to have a lot of dust around our party right now that the democrats, by comparison, are not going to look like they have. but believe you, me, there is a, there is a schism with in the democratic party. you know, just look at our colts, 59 percent of democratic primary voters want this president to be challenged and the primary, he is strong. he does not have the them, obviously, as people of a talked about the kind of mental and physical capacity to,
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to encourage people to feel which way to use a strong leader right now. and that's not just on the economy that's on foreign policy. and these other things that we've talked about, immigration crime, where republicans have again, a record high, a number in terms of our, our, our ability to be trusted on those issues. well, it's one a clip i one jeff to respond to as well from hakeem jeffries, up leader of the democratic party. have some interesting thoughts on this question as well. the extreme mega republicans are focused on loading up of these appropriations bills with their right wing ideological wish list. and that is why the house is unable to function at this moment under extreme mag, of republican leadership. and why we believe they are barreling,
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the american people toward a government shut down that may crash the economy and certainly will hurt every day americans. jeff, what democratic leader hakeem jeffreys space, say this is big show going on over there, and that's all of them. is that giving any momentum at all to joe? but yeah, well it's, it's, that's a part of it and, and, and later jeff is absolutely right about that. and it's, but it's bigger than that. and that's why when he's talking about them not going to the republican party, it's not just trying to tear down government on the, on the shut down here, which by the way, shutdowns and impeachment. a lot of these republicans were not in congress in the 90s, but if they look back, they would know that both of these, when you have impeachment without something that a lot of people think, merits impeachment. people don't like that that reject that in president clinton's job writing approval range went way up because of that same with the government shut down back in the ninety's and is very loser for, for, for newt gingrich. and that's going to be a loser for speaking mccarthy. i think he understands that, but is
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a bigger issue for the republican party because it's not just about trying to tear down government and not fun things that we've already spend money and have to pay for. but it is a talk on people's rights attack on democracy, reject and election results. you have hundreds of republicans who voted against the certified present, binds election, and you have a really focus focused on trying to take away people's rights. and that's that. and this is on abortion is non voting rights, and that's where you're seeing the passion and in the heat with, with, with democrats, but also really for independence who are rejecting and ends and matter of applicants, or rejecting the sort of extreme it back or republicanism that that liter jeffries, well let, let me ask you both this question and i want to be careful how i frame it that you know, joe biden, when he ran 1st. instead i'm, we're fighting for the soul of the nation. we're fighting to save democracy. does that work with americans today? so americans remember what happened on january 6th, and that has not gone away. there were people who were literally fighting against capital police officers in the capital for democracy is a democracy, is it's like
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a never went away that, that we are still fighting for this all over the country and, and, and what their guidance voting rights. whether it's happened on january 2nd or something, just very simple apartments that someone lost and someone one in election that's still going on and, and, and, and americans remember that in that and, and again, in normal times we wouldn't be having conversations more about policy. and one of the things that strikes striking about the nbc paul that we, that we, that is we, normally, we don't ask democracy as a voting issue. mm hm. it's like, well, that so sort of assumed that democracy is a thing that everybody accepts. we put it on our, on bc paul last year, and it was the top of the list of building issues. and so this is something that the american people really care about. and is it a real important priority, mike? or do you agree? like i think we've got a, uh, we've got an extreme partisanship on both sides and here's what the data says, not my own opinion. that the data says that repub republicans when they think about
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the democratic agenda, 80 percent of republicans say that that agenda, the democratic parties agenda is so terrible that it will destroy america as we know it. now here's the flip side of that. 80 percent of democrats feel the exact same way about republicans. and so we have this, these loggerheads, so we have these extreme positions about the other party that well let, let me ask you, let me just interrupt, ask your point. you know, donald trump is out there on donald trump site and saying he's going to go after the biden's, who we seizes corrupt and he's going to obliterate the deep state which is killing america. did those messages resonate? i mean, it's along the lines of what you're say. well, here's what the, the other data says from this pole, which is when we ask, who has, who do you trust more to protect the constitution, protect your rights. that is a,
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that is a split even across the country. and so that's the other point i wanted to bring up is, you know, i think just point about january 6th and nobody, you know, if people haven't forgotten that does not just, that does not just divide it in one direction. and so there are very, very x, very, very strong feelings about the other party on each side of the divide here. and we have to recognize that, you know, this doesn't just, this doesn't just split one way or the other. it's not donald trump against the the, you know, the, the rest of the world. lots of americans, half of americans feel the exact same about the democratic party and about joe biden. so both of these, both these candidates are curing and all of this baggage corruption. you know your concerns about their personal ethics and, and also by the way they have about equal feeling feelings toward them in terms of positive and negative about them personally. well,
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why is comments new both surveyors of american public opinion. jeff hor, with a part research and mike roberts of public opinion strategies. thanks so much for sharing your thoughts with us today if you see. and so what's the bottom line? have you ever have that feeling that you're watching a train wreck in really slow motion? that's how i feel. is america boldly marked as towards this next presidential election? it's a sad indictment of both parties when they simply can't produce any viable candidates other than the guys from last time. so we see the republicans and democrats limping along very exhausted. they're stretched in opposite directions and not providing a great less than about democracy to young people in the way they are run. maybe we're going back to a time in american history when the parties broke apart and new parties were born. maybe it's time that the corruption and the stagnancy of the 2 parties collapses and new options emerge. of course, that's not likely to happen this time around, but it may be coming sooner than you think. and that's the bottom line.
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