Skip to main content

tv   The Bottom Line  Al Jazeera  September 30, 2023 3:00pm-3:31pm AST

3:00 pm
a passing on an ancient way to, to future generations. in an award winning documentary, i'll just say, well, photos, the groups of young men on their right to patsy's county in the most, sorry i, because the say could, would on now to sierra the a single venue in doha with your top stories on elsa 0 pensions are growing at the border between serbia and northern kosovo. the u. s. has warranted the serbian government to stop building up its military forces in the region. pensions re ignited last week after 12 hour shoot out 10 northern coast of o. 3 ethnics are gunmen were killed. so was one coast of our police officer, the nato peacekeeping force, and northern coast of us as it's increasing its presence. so it'd be
3:01 pm
a denies accusations that it was responsible. it blames the interest on coast of those policies towards its ethics or minority. both to life was good as good. now our customers, so i had a long phone conversation, not an easy one with us secretary of state. and so me blinking regarding the situation and costs of us, there's a few things we agreed on, and a few things we did not agree on. we did agree there's a need for the escalation and a greater role for nato peacekeeping forces. there are lots of as well. so what i would say to president, which is stop messing up with coastal comfortable is going to defend its freedom, its independence, and it's a reality. at any price, there is no way back because of what is a sovereign country and it will be so forever. the un says it is struggling to deliver aid to hundreds of thousands of student needs. refugees who have crossed from door for and to chat. it says the rainy season is making the difficult journey even more challenging because roads are flooded. more than 1000000 sudanese have
3:02 pm
slid since the fighting began in mid april and about 418000 of them have sought refuge in neighboring chat. the united nations is sending a humanitarian mission to go to car back after as the buys on took control of the region. it will be the 1st un mission to the enclave. and nearly 30 years ethnic armenians are streaming out of new garner camera back fearing persecution. armenia says the number of people that have crossed into his territory has no surpassed 100000. the poles have just closed in a presidential run all selection in them. all these it is seen as a referendum on which regional power will have influence in the coming years incumbents. abraham, sola is closer to india, while his challenger, mohammad movies, favors ties with china. and he was in the lead after the 1st round devoted slovakia is voting to elect its 5th prime minister and 4 years pro russian former prime minister robert fico is up against the liberal liter. michelle is tameka,
3:03 pm
the election follows the resignation of edward hagar in may. his administration was a strong supporter of ukraine after russia's invasion. the outcome of this vote could cease. lavaca change stands and lean more towards russia. a migraine boat in the mediterranean has reportedly come under attack by the libyan coast guard, according to see washington national. the c rescue organization has posted this video online. it appears to show a de thinking with dozens of migrants on board after a close approach by the speed boat that you're seeing there. and shortly after that, a larger patrol boat is seen throwing life movies to people in the water. see, watch says it is not clear if there were any casualties. funerals are being held in pakistan for some of the victims of the 2 bomb attacks on friday. at least 52 people were killed in a blast at a religious gathering in the northern province of baluchistan. another explosion killed at least 5 people in angry and your official war. the state of emergency has
3:04 pm
been declared in new york city and new jersey after torrential rains and flash flooding. swamp the streets, at least 150 millimeters of rainfall have been recorded. you know what to say to new york is uh, this is time for height and alertness and extreme caution. uh is your home stay home if you are at broke or school shelter in place for now. uh some about some ways of flooded and it's extremely difficult to move around the city. a man has been charged with the shooting of us rapper to punch the core 27 years after his murder. to park was 25 years old when he was shot in las vegas in 1996 police have arrested 60 year old dwayne davis in connection with the murder, his long been known to investigators and he had admitted that he was in the car involved in the drive by shooting up next on houses 0 the bottom line.
3:05 pm
the a hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. how worried or american voters about a presidential election with a choices between one candidate is getting up there a little bit, an age, and then other who might be convicted of crimes before election day. let's get to the bottom line. with us presidential elections about a year away, all signs point to a rematch between president joe biden and former president donald trump. but along the way a lot of stuff could happen. congress is investigating whether binding benefited from his family's business dealings. is it a fishing expedition or could it lead to is impeachment? meanwhile, trump balances from one legal proceeding to another in 3 different states. and
3:06 pm
a 4th trial here in the nation's capital, which is technically not a state. and besides the personal challenges of the parties leading candidates, how about the most pressing issues facing americans today, like violent crime or like trying to get by in this economy. to find out more about where the american people stand these days, we're talking to 2 leading posters. jeff, forward of heart research, which does research for the democratic party and mike roberts of public opinion, strategies, which does research for the republican party. gentleman is great to have you or i always love the shows where i can get a snapshot and take the temperature of all americans by talking to folks like yourself. let me start with you, mike, and ask how thrilled are americans with this choice of joe biden? and donald trump, which i know is not solidified yet, but that's where things look right now. well, it's great to be on and i would just say americans aren't looking forward to that match up more or less. people are saying that that's not the kind of uh,
3:07 pm
candidates, uh, kinda match up that they want. although um, you know, that is, that does seem to be where things are headed and uh, people have made up their minds about those 2 candidates. uh, fairly uh in the large portion because they are so well known and they get to compare um, what a president brought a presidency under trump looks like versus what a presidency under under binding looks like. and so there's a lot that people understand about these 2 candidates know about them, but a lot of the calling says that people aren't too excited about that match up. so let me ask you a question. why is the system so stuck that only these 2 to what's the, what is happening in the us political system that we're ending up with 2 non optimal choices that the nation is looking at. i mean, how, how do your republican can you know, conversational to see it? well, in terms of why we're stuck in this choice,
3:08 pm
one of the main reasons is because of for better for worse, donald trump is the kind of the, the, the center of gravity of american politics. and we asked a question and this paul about, or are you voting me or for donald trump or against joe biden? i'm on track voters, and we asked the same thing and then bind orders. we said, are you voting more for a, for binding or against the truck? in both instances the plurality said, oh no, this is a way more about truck for me than it is about buying. so even among vines voters, this is a referendum on trump. he is continue to be the center of, of the economic, i'm sorry, the political conversation. and even as there is, you know, there's only one president at a time. and in america, he has kind of gotten enough of the limelight that this, this is for one conclusion that we're talking about is a lot because of the coverage that he continues to get. and mostly negative
3:09 pm
coverage from january 6 from is multiple indictments. and just from just being a newsworthy, uh, figure, an individual that that news outlets honestly wants to cover because of the ratings that they get. so, so that's where we, that's part of the problem of the, of the well problem. that's part of the system. systematic structure here that's keeping this locked into this kind of less than optimal choice for voters. just let me ask you the same question, but you know, as you kind of look at the democratic side, one of the things that surprising to me candidly, would love you to comment are the polls out there that right now that said if the election were held tomorrow trump would get about 43 percent of the vote by and we get about 43 percent. there's still about 14 percent out there sorting it out. and i am surprised by that because, you know, i think if i honestly were wanting to run a guess present trumpet. so maybe independents are
3:10 pm
a little bit worried about the guy. maybe these convictions mattered to some americans. it would look like a slam dunk for the democrats. so what is going on on your side of the equation of the people you're talking to? yeah, so steve, but 2020 election never ended. mm hm. we and this is not, we are not living through a normal time. this is not what donald trump keeps saying. he never looked at what and, and, and, and he's the reason why and the republican party is the reason why it never ended. we have not been in a situation where the losing candidate and election refused to accept the results lied to january 6th and, and, and that is fundamentally different than anything we've ever experienced. and so mike is quite right, this question. we've asked us up and it's a really important question is what's your vote about? and we have access to other times when there was an incumbent president in 2004 at george w bush and then 2012 and brock obama, both times a majority of voters that this, this'll actually, my choice is about the incumbent president. that's not what is happening now and, and that is
3:11 pm
a really important point is that donald trump did not fade away after the election, which most losing candidates, do he still front and center? and that's what this of election about that's between 20 election was about a majority of binding voters when asked who about why my voting is to get donald trump out of office. we're still in effect, reside of getting that election. and that's what is fundamentally differential with mike is saying that donald trump, this is all about trump, you mean he's, he's got a strong point. there is a very strong point, and that's why the debate tonight is going to be about trump, even though he's not in there when he won't be there. and so that's what fundamentally is different about the selection. and i'd take your point about the democratic, your concerns on the democratic side. i mean, let me just just jumping to ensure your graphic here for, you know, a 2nd about concerns about president biden's age and, and the, and the fact is around and we get in that for a minute. but when we see that, you know, when, when uh, nbc news pull, it says that when it comes to physical and mental health concerns about joe biden with bind, it's 74 percent with trump is 47 percent. they're only 3 years apart,
3:12 pm
right? ones in his high seventy's the others and his low eighty's. so what's going on there and why is age hitting one so much more significantly than the other? yeah. so i think like the, the there are we have, we have a majority of have major concerns about about, about biden's house. and also majority are concerned about trump and his and the trials and what that will mean for the, for the, for the, for him and his ability to serve as, as, as president if he were elected. the important thing about these concerns is that they're not all equal. so the yes people are concerned about biden's age. but if you look at people who are, are major concerns about them, they're still a good chunk of those voters, almost the one and 5 who are voting for advice for president. that's not the same for those who are major concerns about trump and the ends trials, january 6th and his involvement there. it's a fundamentally different level of concern. so if you ask concern that doesn't necessarily mean they're not there, they're gonna,
3:13 pm
they're not voting for by them because those are 2 very different issues. the question for voters is, do you want? what has happened over these last few years with joe biden? and campbell harris administration, where it is a more confident focus demetrius and get his out of cobit or do you want to return to the chaos and division and are really messy and, and even response to co bed, which i think most americans don't want. and that's, that's rep proof in our, in our paul mike, another factor out there that's, you know, getting tossed into the soup of all of this are, you know, issues about impeachment inquiries and, you know, the, the efforts, you know, tied into issues of funding. the government, the government shut down or is an impeachment inquiry into the behavior of joe biden. let's listen to this clip from congressman matt gates. i'd love to get your thoughts. a joe body deserves impeachment for converting the vice presidency into an atm machine for virtually his entire family. so mike and that's also in the mix . and what i'm trying to figure out is how americans are hearing this. do they do?
3:14 pm
they think there's something there, do they think this is a, you know, in solvent fishing expedition? will it have any traction, politically, from your point of view right now, or was it too early to tell? and i think americans are much more concerned about what their own atm looks like then about that kind of comment about about buying right now because of jeff. talked about the kind of contrast that americans are making between these 2 candidates. and of course, you know, there's not, it's not, there hasn't been a single vote cast yet. so we talked a lot about trump, but the culture of the other contract, so they can make between these 2. can this is what the economy looked like under uh, president trump compared to what is looked like over the last few years. and that is a, that isn't a really important contrast when we were doing the cnbc pool, which is a quarterly pulled. and i do as well with the heart,
3:15 pm
with the talented folks that are research um during the trip years, it was record after record, after record of high economic confidence, people felt like things were finally uh, the economy is finally moving forward. um cobit hits and it got very messy to, to, to just point. but since then, you know, inflation has taken a real hit uh and a real strong kind of out of peoples economic confidence. and now for the last couple years, what we've seen is record low record, low record, low confidence over and over and over. and we've been measuring that all of these things since the great recession. and we're even seeing lower confidence on so many measures compared to even the midst of the great recession. and so talked about contrast, i think in this pull, an important contrast that people are made is for the 1st time actually for the
3:16 pm
highest margin, for republicans in terms of this basic thing. who do you trust more to take care of and handle the economy? republicans have a 21 point advantage is the highest we've measured in the nbc, poland going back 30 years. so we can have a conversation about contrast and these 2 administrations. but i think an important part of that is the economic realities people are facing. well, it's an out, i mean, just, mike, let me just drill down a little bit further with you on that. um, you know, not too long ago, joe biden and his team is economic advisor, janet yelling here at bernstein others in the economics. we're a binding land here about that. this is how great vide nomics is the named economics after this present. is that a loser from your perspective, given the anxieties americans are feeling? well, let's just look at what the president is promising. he's promising economic growth from the middle out and bottom up. and if you look at the data over the last 2 years, who gets crushed?
3:17 pm
who's getting crush the bottom of the economic scale and the middle class? again, in this pull, we found a 2 point margin for democrats having an advantage, the democratic party having an advantage on handling and looking out for the middle class. we see record low and measures of your economic satisfaction in your personal economic satisfaction. and so both of those things tell me that that message is not penetrating. yes, he asked to go out and talk about this because it's a, it's a gaping hole and a weakness and his, and his re election bit. but the idea that by the nomics right now is a net positive for this president is really a base play. i don't think many people outside of you know, the core core. vitamin motor is hearing that and believes it. because again, he's making a promise that doesn't actually isn't being reflected right out. right. jeff is,
3:18 pm
is by nomics a winning bumper sticker. and let me just add an element. the president, the united states, went out and, and went to a store, you know, strike with united off auto workers. went to a picket line. and you know, a lot of those strike are, you know, the folks that are striking at united auto workers in this labor dispute with general motors are out there. because if they're concerned about elect electric vehicles and about renewable energy and about a guy and about various things that the by the administration has champion. so here's the press, the united states striking in some ways against the policies he brought to this economy. how is this playing with, with people you're talking to? well, it's important if you say you're going to be the most pro union president in history, you need to show up when the, when the labor man is under attack. i know because the car is that right? yeah that's, that's, that is a part of what's going on here. but if use and then you have to show up, he's showing up here and he is delivering on what he promised much like is
3:19 pm
delivering on the economy. and yes, i'm getting them and now pump some of these things, some it well, and it's important. it's also important to remember that uh, you know, the term obamacare when the affordable care act was passed was, was at the beginning, was it was not a popular term and tell president obama embrace. so you said, yeah, it's a obama care if i'm gonna get people on health insurance and save people's lives and make a difference for people. yeah, i'm going to own that in the same way. the president biden is doing that now with the nomics. and remember it's, that's a small part of a if everything is doing the new economy, he is the micros quite right on the middle of the last number that isn't really important number that can't be a plus to, for democrats, us must be much higher. but when you, when you're talking about the inflation reduction after you're talking about lowering prescription drug costs for people on medicare, and that's gonna go across the board now for instance, prizes because of the drug companies being forced by president binding the lower cost in his work on trying to lower the cost for education and the are those things
3:20 pm
matter and do they, are people feeling them right now? no, not as much as, as, as they need to but, but the more that message is delivered in the more you can see the infrastructure and the impact, but that's out on jobs and also people's travel times, all those things matter. and that's part of what we're going to see over the next year. how much is this, you know, the tech tonics and the divide between the different, you know, wings of the republican party that seem to be constantly. and i think terrorizing speaker, kevin mccarthy, something that the nation is irritated but how much is that is playing into it and how much of that is inside the bubble of washington dc. that's it for a regular motor. i think that a lot of that, that internal fighting is, is not as important as the kind of solutions that the administration needs to have on addressing crime on addressing immigration and getting an inflation actually doing something to get inflation lower. jeff talked about prescription drug prices, which may be very important, but, but at the end of the day,
3:21 pm
what we're really struggling with is grocery prices, gas prices, and we've got an administration that's taking a very, very aggressive stance on against our own energy independence. and so when people talk about crime, immigration, energy policy, i think those are the types of conversations that americans want to have way more than then in fighting and in either party. you know, and we're on the middle of a, of a republican primary. i mean, we're going to have a lot of dust around our party right now that the democrats, by comparison, are not going to look like they have. but believe you, me, there is a, there is a schism with in the democratic party. you know, just look at our colts, 59 percent of democratic primary voters want this president to be challenged and the primary, he is strong. he does not have the them, obviously, as people of
3:22 pm
a talked about the kind of mental and physical capacity to, to encourage people to feel which way to use a strong leader right now. and that's not just on the economy that's on foreign policy. and these other things that we've talked about, immigration crime, where republicans have again, a record high, a number in terms of our, our, our ability to be trusted on those issues. well, it's one a clip i one jeff to respond to as well from hakeem jeffries, up leader of the democratic party. have some interesting thoughts on this question as well. the extreme mega republicans are focused on loading up of these appropriations bills with their right wing ideological wish list. and that is why the house is unable to function at this moment under extreme mag,
3:23 pm
of republican leadership. and why we believe they are barreling, the american people toward a government shut down that may crash the economy and certainly will hurt every day americans. jeff, what democratic leader hakeem jeffreys space, say this is big show going on over there, and that's all of them. is that giving any momentum at all to joe? but yeah, well it's, it's, that's a part of it and, and, and later jeff is absolutely right about that. and it's, but it's bigger than that. and that's why when he's talking about them not going to the republican party, it's not just trying to tear down government on the, on the shut down here, which by the way, shutdowns and impeachment. a lot of these republicans were not in congress in the 90s, but if they look back, they would know that both of these, when you have impeachment without something that a lot of people think, merits impeachment. people don't like that. they're reject that in president clinton's job. rating approval range went way up because of that same with the government shut down back in the ninety's and is very loser for, for,
3:24 pm
for newt gingrich. and that's going to be a loser for speaking mccarthy. i think he understands that, but it is a bigger issue for the republican party because it's not just about trying to tear down government and not fun things that we've already spend money and i have to pay for. but it is a talk on people's rights attack on democracy, reject and election results. you have hundreds of republicans who voted against the certified present, binds election, and you have a really focus focused on trying to take away people's rights. and that's that. and this is on abortion is non voting rights, and that's where you're seeing the passion and in the heat with, with, with democrats, but also really for independence who are rejecting and ends and matter of applicants, or rejecting the sort of extreme it back or republicanism that that liter jeffries, well let, let me ask you both this question and i want to be careful how i frame it that you know, joe biden, when he ran 1st. instead i'm, we're fighting for the soul of the nation. we're fighting to save democracy. does that work with americans today? so americans remember what happened on january 6th,
3:25 pm
and that has not gone away. there were people who were literally fighting against capital police officers in the capital, ford democracy is a democracy, is it's like a never went away that, that we are still fighting for this all over the country and, and, and what their guidance voting rights, whether it's happened on january 2nd or something, just very simple apartments that someone lost and someone one in election that's still going on and, and, and, and americans remember that in that, in and again in normal times we wouldn't be having conversations more about policy . and one of the things that strikes striking about the nbc paul that we, that we, that is we, normally, we don't ask democracy as a voting issue. mm hm. it's like, well, that so sort of assumed that democracy is a thing that everybody accepts. we put it on our nbc paul last year and it was the top of the list of building issues. and so this is something that the american people really care about. and is it a real important priority, mike? or do you agree? like i think we've got a, uh,
3:26 pm
we've got an extreme partisanship on both sides and here's what the data says, not my own opinion. that the data says that. repub republicans when they think about the democratic agenda, 80 percent of republicans say that that agenda, the democratic parties agenda is so terrible that it will destroy america as we know it. now here's the flip side of that. 80 percent of democrats feel the exact same way about republicans. and so we have this, these loggerheads, so we have these extreme positions about the other party that well let, let me ask you, let me just interrupt, ask your point. you know, donald trump is out there on donald trump site and saying he's going to go after the biden's, who we sees is corrupt and he's going to obliterate the deep state which is killing america. did those messages resonate? i mean, it's along the lines of what you're say. well, here's what the, the other data says from this pole, which is when we ask who have,
3:27 pm
who do you trust more to protect the constitution, protect your rights. that is a, that's a split even across the country. so that's the other point i wanted to bring up is, you know, i think just point about january 6th and nobody, you know, if people haven't forgotten that does not just, that does not just divide it in one direction. and so there are very, very x, very, very strong feelings about the other party on each side of the divide here. and we have to recognize that, you know, this doesn't just, this doesn't just split one way or the other. it's not donald trump against the the, you know, the, the rest of the world. lots of americans, half of americans feel the exact same about the democratic party and about joe biden. so both of these, both these candidates are curing and all of this baggage corruption. you know your concerns about their personal ethics and,
3:28 pm
and also by the way they have about equal feeling, feelings towards them in terms of positive and negative about them personally. well, why is comments new both surveyors of american public opinion. jeff hor, with a part research and mike roberts of public opinion strategies. thanks so much for sharing your thoughts with us today if you see. and so what's the bottom line? have you ever have that feeling that you're watching a train wreck in really slow motion? that's how i feel. is america boldly marked as towards this next presidential election? it's a sad indictment of both parties when they simply can't produce any viable candidates other than the guys from last time. so we see the republicans and democrats limping along very exhausted. they're stretched in opposite directions and not providing a great less than about democracy to young people in the way they are run. maybe we're going back to a time in american history when the parties broke apart and new parties were born. maybe it's time that the corruption and the stagnancy of the 2 parties collapses
3:29 pm
and new options emerge. of course, that's not likely to happen this time around, but it may be coming sooner than you think. and that's the bottom line. the, the oil rich, the rock is facing a crisis and a final bike to results water as dams built by its upstream neighbors with strict flow under investment and climate change, or exacerbate do the situation. now, when regions were settled, funding 1st, image pensions are rapidly rising. people in power investigates whether this could be the last generation to farm the land. iraq's walter was part to of, to, on a jersey to how do states control information the, controlling the narrative to dominating the media. how does the narrative can pull public opinion and norma, spite,
3:30 pm
you might not be the most important story about china of today. but that's what the big piece of attention to. how is citizen? jim listened, replacing the story, the listening post, i fixed the media. we don't cover the news, we cover the way the news is covered. the serial venue in the top stories on houses 0 this hour, the us is urging serbia to stump building up military forces along its border with kosovo. pensions have been running high between serbia and kosovo after a 12 hour shoot out last week. to life was good as good. now are customers. so i had a long phone conversation, not an easy one with us secretary of state and to me blinking regarding the situation and costs of us. there's a few things we agreed on and
3:31 pm
a few things we did not agree on.

30 Views

info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on