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hello and welcome to the program. i'm emily angry and the detention of dozens of people working in the media in india has been condemned by journalists organizations as well as press freedom and civil rights groups for the beach. i paid government says the rights were carried out to protect national security, claiming media organizations are using secret chinese funding to undermine the states. it'd be j pays opponents say the police action is a sign of a 3rd, a version of press freedom in a country, often price for being the world's largest democracy. so what is happening to india is media, and just how free is journalism that will be discussing all that and will without guess shortly. but 1st, this report from baghdad. my history, the media office rates and journalists question seems that are becoming common in

india. on tuesday, it was the turn of a news portal, critical of the government. police search, the office of news, click, and the homes of several of its writers. dozens of them were detained, interrogated and released. their laptops and mobile phones were seized. use cliques, editor, and a senior executive. i'd be interested in held. well yeah, i mean, why do i have you definitely with a we have not been given any reason nor the grounds or the offence committed for which the journalist has brought here. no such information has been given to either his family members, again, nor to us that the government defends its move, saying the rates are part of an investigation. it's a suspected illegal form funding of the media company. police registered a case against news clicked in august after the new york times reported the website received funds from a us millionaire report accused level royce, single of working closely with beijing to push chinese propaganda worldwide. a charge, the tech mogul denies china say pass a good and you have but if some port to agency would run time as agend of to taking

money from them, such things cannot be allowed to happen in the country. this has happened earlier to an investigation was going on against them. and now we have concrete evidence. that money is coming from china and america. and that money is being used to promote the china here. the opposition accuses authorities of cracking down on voice is critical of the government of prime minister and are under moody. this is an attempt to try it in my little the media and the blessings that the, that the, the, i'm in the media has the physics idea the then those will handle it. but what does it, what does the, the, the concrete ones know? the crackdown comes months after indian texas. doherty's rated the offices of the bbc in new delhi, and by the channel air, the documentary critical oven to render modi's role in the good drug riots in 2002 more than a 1000 people were killed and thousands injured in the unrest between communities in that state body was then its chief minister,

other independent outlets have also been targeted. most of the searches are carried out under so called anti terror powers. that critics say are draconian and a misuse of the law. yeah. but the shops up into the police are not listening to us . we have no application is being accepted was find more clients are not being allowed to sign their legal authorization. leonard lee, this is an act of terror. joe, this is an effort to silence people on question the government in any form the degree of press freedom in india has plunge since never under moody took charge as prime minister in 2014, in this year's world press freedom index of a 180 countries, india has dropped 261 from a 150 last year. it's lowest ranking on record reporters without borders that conducts the annual ranking warrants press freedom is in crisis in india. big admin he cheat for inside story. the. let's bringing out guess now in moving by is ronda

a huge global opinions ride for the washington post and also of the goods or add files and asked me on a cover up in new delhi is show i've done y'all. political editor of the scroll news in india and in frankfort is by me as your program coordinator for the community to protect general as a warm welcome to you all. and thanks for joining us on the program, ron, i'm going to stop with you and it's a simple question. is press freedom in crisis in the world's largest democracy, a remedy to begin with. you introductions book about the boys press freedom in dick's reading, the india now splits on the 161st position of the was best freedom index of that 61 use um and the fact that um, at this point depends on the start, the new enemies of the state, the fact that solution you will be on local activities prevention act as being used against your most do shows how regional new starting this far the what all the was

not just democracy. um, oh the thing is what happened can use click yesterday has become a norm um uh, in at this point of time and being time a big issue, especially independent subdivisions. somebody is critical of the government. the board publishes something which goes against the deadline of the government. we see this kind of reprisals against the journalist where they do the income tax. no. does money laundering? oh yeah, it used to be just definition, but now we have better lords being grouped against you on this. uh so yes, we are not as we, as you'd like to be. in fact, this is probably one of the most times to be a journalist, an independent journalist, good to go up, the more the government in india right now, run out. i want to pick up on what you said in terms of the lowest that they were arrested or detained under show a, these journalists were arrested under what's known as the unlawful activities prevention act. what is that, and why is it so dangerous for press?

freedom to the local activities. preventative accident connected to actually an antique dental. and using that justification is extremely difficult in one of his more zip code in actually measures or features is that be, is nearly impossible under the law. so you're basically gene without trying. so because these actually forced to accept the version of the prosecution license, really unexcused. so which is why it is being wide, widely used by be employed. by the more the government decided critics as to where they'd be civil rights activists. and yesterday we started be used against to extremely expedient journalist, one of the doing this, picked up today was also uh, you know, in a very dock. uh, i don't even went onto picked up in the image in see 1975 toby. and he has been picked up to be under an antique that are not. so this is, this is, it's such a cool new law that it's impossible to get jane so that i was the government

actually imprisoned. people for euros deals on and without science. and this is why it's such a fee of it for the government to use it getting this, it didn't send anybody loser. putting more any active is tools, funeral organizing and mobilizing the government. lee, this isn't anything new though, is that the indian government has been cracking down on journalists critical of prime minister in a range or marty for some time. now, what has your organization been documenting in this is not the 1st time. uh, we heard just now, you know, earlier this year we have seen similar rate, the time of the office of news, click and hold off on the agenda as well. so be to 2 years ago. so this is monique human, utah in 2014. so as to the day we have documented us, they are really about cases of genetics b harass jill. and it also says view because of the reporting off the dollars and

of the party. but what is most points that need to be j. o. a from yesterday, the ashes taking the guess news is the use, the usaa yes. got to read the news, the editor and one of the saw. this is the latest off the bottom line ration of security law against generous. busy work to run a your generalized working in india from a personal perspective. can you describe to us what it's like to be a journalist day today in your country? well, let me, i can still see i'm already, i'm in a very privileged position to the extent that i have access to grades on the set of lawyers. i have access to international platforms that show sort of dye entity with me all but yes, it is a difficult job at this point of time because i spend more time to my lawyers than i could. i as much as i wanted to doing my younger boards. having said that, i think i'm, but it's very important to point doubt that the joining us in the country who are

still behind bars under you, it is especially joiners. english need a full bible game was still behind bars on the radio, just didn't know if not just you reviewed it, but also the national security act and the public safety of some of them have been behind by some more than 2 years without be just a big government was a district for more than 2 years, was behind box, and wanted to use part of that because he wasn't on his way to the board, the gang deep of a lower cost. good. so that was due to affairs of journalism and yeah, and i'm what i'm really concerned about, as somebody was been in the profession for almost more than continuous now, is the shooting. it said this, this will have on a young generational journalist independent journalist, specifically what the profession was already in the profession when they see this kind of, you know, when they said i could deal with the government to predict the book. read that this

will be the easiest to read them from doing the judges. nobody boards. uh nobody wants to go to the doorstep. first thing in the morning, no big ones have gone on on below blending knocking and what's meant that include a money laundering, charges against you, or members of your family is not a pleasant size to have books if your doorstep. i think it does kind of cheating inspected without, but you didn't get that done in the engine additional junk this. what was the largest democracy be the corner store for the very liberal ideas in buttons? the car questions which are being off to when i go to the media reports but news click john, and this is about the coverage of the videos for best. so in india, you're the almost the best or, or the citizenship purpose. so basically the government this time was deb should link that anybody was the same thing on because the government is, is approved. again, this was looking at the because of the nicely courses but they do. so we're just

trying to get funding or photos. this is the new, this is the new back to me. i wanted to jump in there cuz i wanted to pick up and what you just said the show up. do you think that part of the issue is that any critique of the government is saying is at the national unpatriotic? is that part of the issue? he is already part of the issue and you know what brand i mentioned uh the media. the media is a big, thoughtful product. explain this, the more the government has made it one of its main priorities for control. the media. part of it is i'm using the data so, so that allows me to offices, which does not support critical and unworthy governments at all. but for the others, as you know, for this part of me down to assist you, as you've click will do report critically, will do report on the ground on the situation on the ground. as i mentioned, you know, they've been a member of protest, which i'm going to be in the morning for the more the government. so it's smaller portals services that are reported critically, that are more devices on the ground that have disseminated these views. and so for

them business to and which is a very large stick, which is the end to get an over to just absolutely, just my employment, a journalist who's been working for the past decades reporting on the ground. would it be now qualitative sitting there as, as you mentioned, there is an abundance of media outlets. lee, if i can direct this question to you, is that an abundance in india able to conceal the concentration of ownership? and what impact is that concentration of ownership have on press freedoms? well is one of the largest use industry. and so what we're seeing right now um a couple of issues of concentration, of video and issues as well. but what we're seeing is really the criminalization of journalism in india, which is very well, especially true tactics. learn using financial, trying to 2 types of media outlets. only the general tab, the economy, c a t r with you in the g use,

but increasingly is also being used in india and india as a country where freedom all the spacious government, the constitution. so this is not the 1st part of the thing that some other topics be using, and yet it could be life to the right now and measures about the following task and the benefit test as well. there's an issue of 5 people in it. yeah. and this is, you know, they are just reporting about what's going on in the grow and that really comes on, or rather just staying on the concentration of media ownership for just a moment before we brought in and out the concentration of media ownership in the country's leading language is henzy, but what do you agree that it's even more locked at a regional level for local language publications. but i'm really the sides of it. so there are these big headed on legacy media houses and job big names. big publications. um, you know what, depending on the government,

a big business houses for the ads and revenues out of the other thing is that one did was access to the government. so i think because of some of the biggest media who has been ended up with it in the on english are now owned by a big business houses who do not want to dig cartoons with the coverage. on the other hand, we have independence, news outlets like like sure, sure. well that's cool. was you said it was closed on the independent. i'll just like screwing articles, looking at their obligation that can be like move and i are going to, oh there isn't, there isn't that kind of funding that these organizations are sure to have and, and been, i mean that they don't have the kind of beach so the each of these mainstream legacy media outlets, which is basic, you get your, most of them are joining out the that much, that it's a student by the government. so at this point of time behind these job, any b,

b one says district. exactly. indeed, the one of the independent of so the say independent media tells us what being critical of the government and the 1st time they cover up the end you did go by the dani uh, by the identity of similarly with the other. the other english news, johns with him, the news channels as can be news publications, a big part of the censorship am in this, of the ownership of these public edition on them and then addition to but those and all. so i think that is a big problem in that to fix and nobody at the end of the day, nobody wants an enforcement dictate. notice as they do is the one is that on 2nd, nobody wants to lose access to those involved show ever noticed you knowing that, do you think journalists who work for a particular medium, say, print versus television or radio, or do you think one of those mediums i'm a journalist that work for them. i'm more vulnerable than the others. yes,

for this complex of tv i think is the most by little. but that's because tv has the biggest reach. so it's where the government is most invested it because it's not once it has the biggest pull it to get him back. so you sort of tv your list, there's a lot of pressure on you to conform to a certain political line. so it does play out along those lines to some extent, just because tv has a bigger each unit. i'm coming back the old. oh, you question around how it plays at all national regional levels, you know, sort of, ironically, i think that these new media media is actually somewhat clear. then the measuring media of the big media house is just because of what brought up. pointed out the fact that the corporate control and that is more them also if it's more mixed. but when it comes to the measuring media, which the more the government is very, very invested in controlling. there's a lot of corporate top down control. and especially languages such as india and i shouldn't even english the way. uh it's, it's actually very difficult to do now to run an independent english in the new shannon, which supports could you give me the government just because of all the cabinets

and sticks, that'd be toner to me, if you do so late, would you agree with that? sentiment that it's, that it's television journalist. so do you think that old journalist, no matter what the communication method method are on the thresh, i think because feed into the number of cases of fact the, you know, journalists not just in general also for any useful cause of increasing. maybe i'm still getting reports about forming correspondence, having facing a lot of restrictions and tools, a trouble. phase one on these are uncertainties, but i think, you know, overall of course there are some in india and uh, indian you know, as i still facing the biggest try, especially those in the region of looking for the region the to run a police said that $37.00 men and 9 women have been questioned in these racing, rives, i know you've been quite vocal about online violence against female general is how

does gender play a role if any, in this particular issue, really, emily, i hate to bring myself and the situation. but as a woman of those muslim women critical up the government that ages more gender and bigoted against me, i mean, i just posted a picture of, well, you know, somebody from, you know, all these rights when shoulds, what they do is pick up your image from from the internet and say, oh, she's a more than just woman who advocates for the job and ended up as an online controlling against a woman. i think it's a little more harder and then it comes to music on the box. you know, when the sexualized with the twitter twins are more to do with their sexuality, but the gen the image is often more through it all to create another think about do to discredit your work or visit online. and that is the also you. there's one thing for the government, develop it in the mainstream media, the dog and you know,

use the government additive. but the other in the clear and this is the social media negative that has be used to the condition of jo, missed quite critical of the government. i mean, you know, but there was no political or whether just the bbc over the independence on this or far enjoying this, you know, going to be you have 10 seconds but maybe damage on who's just something just kind of cut off the golf and you will see when they're twins by box and open it by heart, every body has the band with the board to start. everybody has meant the bandwidth of finding something like this. so it does show a lot of people don't, i know, but i'm enjoying this in india who have gone quiet because of the agenda and i last week that gets them not everybody has the bank, they don't to fight the engine in george, i'm in dire need of social media machine be that what's going on when it gets there . so there's also the backup now that they've been been just starting on the backend that agencies. there's also backlink, this means the media and the social media. now that they've, that is showing delta gets them either be that that is a very,

very effective medium. you know, you have lots of course, but instance, right? so you have to get in depth side. so we fact took the news, but in fact, you can get the sites already. a very nice concept by design a, john, this is just created that information as going to why don't in the country one step forward so that jonas has made an enemy of the state. so right now the opposed to get an agency can prosecute author just be able to get the youngest. she just wanted to make us page. but before that you've described in the journalist i'm there, which is good to go out. the government is that the, somebody just government has done effectively. and that brings me to my next question. so i have how can journalists find back? i think journalist can find back using the only 2 journalist. so which is difficult . and i think yesterday was a tough day falling into a list. and it's i think left community shaking the fact that it's so easy to imprison a senior member of senior colleagues such as people i do. but i think all we can do

is just for the heads down and report and do a job and hope that the country will turn on for the better. and we can guess more bottom that way. what do you think the future holds for journalism in india? specifically to the, um, you know, the best way for us to, um, the future to uh, to continue reporting. uh, i wanna say just now that now this is what we do. but and i truly believe that how we once i, um i know, so i think um in the one that is very strong positions off of the past. uh, let's pretend to this is who really wants to talk to them about the patients in the address. i'm crestline, which goes well beyond the visual actions as to the indian dollar. this guy wants to be kind of be the model of the policy, or you can be

a brave yadda and run up the united states as cold for respect for the media. but it has declined to weigh in on reports of news clicks, relationship with china. do you want washington to step out of what you want from the international community move broadly? i'd be what to expect just for the journalism organizations internationally and not as much companies, but more journalism organizations to kind of us be consorted entity to joining this . it'd be great because, you know, i, the profession is longer back. i don't think governments because governments have thoughts on can be, you know, something like this i think is, is, is just a moment versions of joseph publications that need to speak up on the needs. everybody in the voice. uh, just like, you know, joining the spoken sort of data. the rent event been jamal gashodi was more good. oh, did you do? you need this kind of sort of data from john this globally. okay. and what is happening? because, you know, as trip said yesterday was, or yesterday was

a very depressing, deeper just listen like i again, i want to say that i wonder if this is good. this'll be young. don't listen to it. yeah. right. how do we create a sim? was best for them. how do we make sure that they do not feel imprisonment or even we think something against the government? so i think it's not about yours and body sense in the national media. uh should stay. uh you don't should, should have the bad all been up there just. we're moving into an independent john list in india. we're looking at a great list of their life. they don't know the deluxe is, i think jonathan barbee should do more to predict these independence on this. we're looking at a great list of the advice show up. how has the indian public reacted? what have you heard anecdotally, or when you're going out on the straits in new delhi? well, how is people reacted to these raids and these arrest? so does he actually tell me, but one thing that i want to sort of put solid is the distortion of media and you

know, yeah, has had a really impacted 1000000 public and as of and it has a really bad even back to report impacting that people have lost stuff in the media . so people right now because they don't trust a lot of what they didn't meet is putting out because the realize that, you know, the last part of the media thing has both be. so the government, this is something that you will hear often in fact, sometimes you wouldn't even get it from people who are supposed to be thankful that already many people were supposed to be just be maybe. so they would also not believe uh, what program in general, sort of putting up and you know, we might sort of get lost in the corner to get that sense. but honestly, this is the very best we need to know because you can't have a democracy. you get simply cannot have a democracy in which the media is not really, i mean is fits, gets a submit ticket out of it. and i hope that the political conditions can pull us back from the campus so that we don't people and,

and run up the next indian general election is expected to be held in a few months time. is that 6 months time potentially between april and may of 2024? i was expecting if the correct down by the indian gum government in the coming months. but i don't want to sound like a cynic, but the reaching started looking right now. i expect for the, for, i don't know just june this, but civil rights activists defend just about members of the opposition. i think it is going to be a very, very tough time right here to pretend in elections because won't be up with missing now to 6 months into the agenda. the election has given given us a review on working life ahead and that is what is extremely distressing as well. i think the state of journalism is in strong hands with the 3 of you. we appreciate your time on this edition of the inside story. thank you. so much thanks to all about this ronna i, you show a but danielle and bailey and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'll just say we're dot com and for further

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