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tv   Inside Story  Al Jazeera  October 7, 2023 10:30am-11:01am AST

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so this could be, i know that ation beyond all previous operations, i want to explore that a bit further when you say the beginning of the war. i mean it, in the past, what we've seen is simple environment of gaza pounding it's gone. so what it, what it is real is other options here. what else could we see potentially given this is on another scale, this reaction from the new really is over the past is exhausted, their own ability to, to, to reach out, to, to, to hate because they use all types of, of weapons. and this is what i was saying about, you know, the palestinians kind of surprised and you have anyone with being able to build and develop such an infrastructure despite the see despite the wars and plans function of the nation. that's why i think it's really decision make of life now is in front of yeah, they might go to what's a love the operation war. but that's not, i mean the, the, the,
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the bank is exhausted. they've used all the, this, all sorts of weapons, all sorts of, of attend or not. and that will power. are they going to infiltrate into odds? are they going to enter into guys that, that's going to be the very big decision to take for nothing. you know, because that's going to be a game changer actually with respect to the dynamics of the struggles right now. especially that 3 know die. how mass as one function beside all the functions who are life. now we're going to involve themselves in, in, in this, of that ation. already acquired a bombs that, that a bunch of times bumps. and we saw that even in the west bank, they were able to smuggle back into the west bank such as the show was one. and they've used it against is rarely taxed. so it's going to be very cost. the weather is if it's for them that's in yahoo was already facing a lot of challenges on the domestic side and for as well as extensive to.
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okay, for now. thank you. i have some uh correspondence here in the studio. i wanna recap what we know. so far as we approach how policy our, how much fighters have 5 roll kits from goza at israel, we are looking at live pictures that several people that we know of now have been killed in israel. warning sirens have sounded in central and southern israel also in areas around garza as far as television. tell it leave. and palestinian fighters have been seen in vehicles inside israel. published and media say how much has taken several is really soldiers hostage. okay, let's go to under 0, senior political analyst, mar one, the sharra who is live in powers for us. mark my one this, this is unprecedented. what we're seeing at the moment, isn't it?
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absolutely. the, it's a, we've been in the probably abusing the word chopped over the past few hours because there are these shots that surprised about some of us who are been following this. and certainly among the kind of thing is in his res, while this is a totally shocking and unprecedented, it is hardly surprising. i think got so many of us knew that this was coming. because the occupation is i stayed the war. this has been uh now for the past 2 decades for more stuff is i launched against the front of cities. and now we see the kind of thing is the reverse, or they flipped the entire dynamic with these are they took, the initiative today. they attacked is really military and civilian installations instead of secularism. soldiers roaming, been
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a city and neighborhood some townsend village. ready it was kind of spinning and fighters that were roaming is really supplements. this is unprecedented because not only is this that the magic change from the past. it's the flip side of the past, and that's what it is right, is, are probably discussing today is how are they going to respond to this in a way that maintains the legitimacy as governments that a promise committed. just acute it's people. why is continuing its occupation? why is continuing this for pressure of the better since? now my fear, my greatest trio hold is that began with this another unprecedented thing, or maybe not. so of course events if we talk about decades ago, which is res. i'm not simply gonna respond for a few days and to bombardments and even if you assess the initial attempts. but this time these regular response by the government is going to be more severe than
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ever. and it's probably gonna lead to a wider distribution. probably then that i knew that we've seen before in decades, and that's going to involve, or the way i see it simpler violence, meaning the fanatics and the fashion. so these are all going to take things into their hands. and we're going to see this a go, i don't have it on, i'm pushing it way. we've seen it happening to one other kind of sitting in the balance of refugee camps where there is really such as that fact and burned few cars. but this is going to be different. i have a feeling based on the fact that we've seen the last few hours in the last few days and years. that this is a breaking point in this i thought this attack opening the gates of hell in israel. by this time, we need to further explanation and this condition will no longer be limited simply
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to government and children and all that kind of thing inside the palestinian authority that's been missing an action is going to have to make a step regardless of what started this that's done with the side where the 1st thing in order to ends up being whether it's a is in the history books or in the history, been born in the hearts of the palestinians. forehead sweat on the palestinians, and there stand. then i'm not saying that they would join or not join amongst themselves. so for them say, whether they would continue security to the nation with this or the occupation in the next few weeks and months as is, are escalates bits response to the processing of assistance with this, that on the side of things. at this time again there we'd be able to basically. busy you know, get away with ignoring the mess and exploiting it later as the legitimate leaders.
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i don't think it's possible any more. don't stop across the board for the student also need to place both ways any more. and that's why the levels. so now, what are you going to see so much to i, station and so much drama, and show much bloodshed. i'm just going nation one, find that everyone's going to have to take a stand, including to your point to your guest, still in some of those kind of governments are going to have to push on, shake up and take a stone because my feeling of this is a feeling based again, on my reading or case study and reading the fax for me. but this is bigger than anything to proceed in the past many years. i guess that's the point. i mean, clearly israel is going to respond to the question is how big is this will going to be? we've had this cool farms from the outcast temper gauge. we haven't had
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a response yet from lebanon, from the lebanese groups. but if this does open up on to multiple multiple fronts, how potentially big could this be? i think it's gonna depend on the prime edited now, it's gonna depend on the strategy response. and is there a response? i think we need to look at it as a default, or even 3 full one is the whole government. nothing. the whole himself is going to make sure that he just wants in a way that allows him to stay legitimate in the eyes of his various as 5 minutes. and that's getting through the whole series of bombings in assessing nations and so on, so forth. i guess guys on the west bank and sauls is going to be the 1st. the 2nd thing is his boxes and government will thrive on violence and chaos. they're not going to be satisfied with this. they're going to need one more. they probably would. what would insist on occupying garza when the by the i don't my law
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keep it on nothing. you know, those partners are not going to accept simply more more apartments. and that includes of 2008, 200920142000 and terms. and they will not accept. they would want a full scale response to take over what they called the historic great that is that they have promised. and they would not accept anything less because they strive on this and they would hope to be that next prime minister is served full is the subtler spend different methics. the, on the extreme is it is there are no debate in the west bank. and so then those with take matters been to their parents without going back to the is really a lot of in the military. they would want to eventually and that within their way against the palestinian civilians. most of homes are of course fund farms. that
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could also lead to collections within is there a problem where some 2000000 that a city use is right? it's citizens live. i think that's also going to be bought to be a new front that we're hoping not. because as i said, if this continues to escalate and is, i wouldn't have that as far as it must, according to each for logic. it's not gonna go into some beastie boys issues tomorrow, right? then accept that through step solution. there's not a longer to pace process and then it's no longer as far as they were concerned. i need a commit issues with the palestinians. so here you have it. so now i'm a significant worker. it's not a conventional offer, an accident that hold water for the good wish to kind of extend for unlimited amount of time. i'm to be purchased, not to armies and those to be pushed out into find it started by the 15000000 of them to some 7 or 8 teams. that 1617000000 of them, some 7000000 better citizens and some 7000000 jews. and their suspension that is
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spent on violence their arms and they are in close proximity to one another. you can't imagine what must this could be of this. some 3rd party of sore guns in interviews. i'm just situation. i'm not sure if that's going to happen. okay, for now my one massaro out. is there a senior political analyst? i want to go straight to you now side who is in gaza, just we're just hearing you me now it's with the, with you hearing this is really ami is now cooling. it's military operation against the gaza strip. i installed that as a name. they have given this operation and i believe it may have even begun. we're hearing you know, off as strikes the 1st as strikes on gaza. these are pictures, live in gaza. you can see that blowing of smoke a rock,
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it has clearly landed somewhere and gone. so what moved, can you tell us you now? yes. well, as you mentioned the yes, the east during the air strikes have started in different areas of the goals. the strip. also one targeting was against the indonesian hospital in the northern part of gaza strip, where the ministry of health has condemned that targeting towards the hospital, saying that one policy was killed in that uh air strike. now as you just mentioned, the operation iron swords that is being carried against because the street by these really military is now taking place. and as we have started with this thing, different targeting in different areas and gotten stuff. yes, this is now the difficult bit, isn't it? you you've been, we've been talking in the hours leading up to this a residence feeling very fray,
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very uncertain about what is to come. but this is the beginning of took us through how, how hard this is going to be because of the gaza strip. as we know people living in very close proximity to each other. every single strike is deadly. well, as of people were just a very much a dead, worried about how it's going to start about what is going to happen. people quickly in, in this past hour, where directed to their local super markets and markets to quickly get some essentials food supplies as best to battle started as a, a complete surprise for both sides. now seeing that the is really targeting has started in different areas of gaza at the same time, just shows or talks about how intense and how complicated this a task is going to be in gaza. again, a very densely populated area with over 3200000 people living in 365
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kilometers square. not allowed to leave because the strip not having shelters to shelter in it means that every single home in gauze, though, is subjected to a kind of destruction by div is really a air strikes even the outside that for us in gone. so well, we can stay in golf and because i believe on the phone we have run a savannah, or she's a resident of gaza. runa, understand 10 situation for you, where you walk. it took us through what's happening around you? yes. well, it's all the same process. we get the same thing as your correspondence. you aided . there are some errors tried, but we're still here in the rest of the we don't, sufficient on is going to retaliate. and of course we, you know, this is not the 1st time for us,
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we know what it means and they retaliate because they, they normally just bomb in the middle of the city's neighborhood. 2 years ago they bought a neighborhood where i looked at the got the city. i don't remember the words that like a whole families were one child was a few strikes in the middle of the night. it was in the middle of the street and people are, have not really recovered from that yet. so what were we don't know what to expect? it's very uncertain. and there are no safe places in the us that there are no shelters, no places who run. so for safety, so people are just, you know, um yeah, i mean the point to the run a, that's a point was making, i mean when it comes to israel, for example, people have bomb shelters to go to presumably you have nowhere else to go to. you know, um, sometimes people and lease and previous to attacks, people would evacuate like run out of their homes to a need to another relatives home thinking that that it was safe. but then many
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people actually killed as they each actuated because you don't know where there's really well please are going to hit. there is no, i mean there are no a protective choices here, whether it's hospital. lexi just did a few hours ago, or it's time off if it's a you onto a school, there are no particular situations here. if you're everybody, i mean, every place is liable to the attack. and can i ask how you feel right now, and what do you, what emotions are going through you? because uh, the israel is attack now into gaza. is in response to what began this morning. the attack by home us, how do you feel about what is happening? do you feel a sense of resignation? do you feel a sense of that you want to fight inevitable as well? how will you feel that? yeah, i mean, as in the ordinary citizen here, um, uh,
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you know, we don't like these kinds of, we don't like to with these things happen. number of 3 for our kids, for the time was that they haven't healed from. but when you, when, when he talked about this recovery ation, you know, there were retaliating towards him that's initiated this morning. i mean, think how big in this morning we have been watching the whole have been watching, what's been going on in jerusalem and julian and for. 1 always places where there is really courses and the settlers, they just in be these places and they shoot people and they, this occurred the mosque and we do this every single day. and yet this is really wants, it does have to stay solvent. and so you should, you just be quiet. did, did this doesn't concern you. we can do whatever you want. and the other part of the, of, you know, of colors tiny, does it concern you? you just pay top it locks up in your cage and we'll, we'll took a windshield for you and gas and all of these. and so what they,
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what they have been doing for the, for forever is 2 fragments of the palestinian society into, into kiddos. so you have to got the ghetto and then the worst think it's even worse to have the party as well. and you have which which snakes to the bank and divide it separates people from the land from their livelihood. so it did, things did not begin this morning. i guess they, they decided to retaliate. and in response to the case of humiliation of the, of killing or terrorist attacks by tut learns of burning all the trees of demolishing homes every single day. so you cannot separate what happens, what's happening today from what is happening in the larger context. all of the time around it is just in case anyone is joining a coverage now. i just uh want to remind people that we are speaking to randa
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chaverra, a residence of residence of gauze a and rhonda this attack coming now from a it is now beginning the response from the is riley on e into gone. so we're hearing that the number of strikes here, of course, in gaza. what is your situation? are you, are you at home? do you have family? how do you prepare for something like this? yeah, i want to share it. like if someone else has come, these have nowhere to go see if they're just stay home and the week, you know, they just try to be there with each other because they don't want to be separated in case something happens. they talked a couple each other during that time, the families who have kids that have, you know, it's not really, it's very hard for them because kids kind of get cream kids know the sounds from uh, from previous attacks. so they have, we have of families here, we have a lot to deal with while we just sit here at home and wait for whatever it's going
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to happen. run, i really appreciate you talking to us and i'll just say or rhonda she bad resident of goza. okay. if you're just joining us, i want to recap the events of this morning and bring you right on to date. the palestinian on the group home us has launched an unprecedented operation against israel this morning. the israeli government says 5 people have been killed at least a 100 inches in the rocket fi that they say has seen more than 2000 rockets fired into israel. this is being described or called the so called access flood. it's the biggest such offensive in decades and defensive testing palestinian fighters into, into israel is no, honey, is the political lead of how much he says the campaign was in reaction to recent desecration of the o. x and most unsettling aggression as well as launch initial as strikes as we've just been reporting in reaction in the last half an hour. so they're describing
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their operation as the i and now it will be gone when how much began firing, what it says was thousands of rockets to ed's israel. this was the scene in ask along with some of the will kits land. as you can see, the smoke billowing fire, the kind of standing on group islamic jihad says it has now joined the hum us assault. they also have pictures of palestinian fighters taking is radius hostage. they also have scenes of fighters from the cast time for gauge off how much entering into israel we have from the command of the cast on brigade, which is the ministry wing of how mosse he made the following statement. mobile, how does it equally that it goes out the time is come to draw the line for the enemy to understand the time is up and they can't keep going without consequences.
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we are announcing an operation called likes of floods in the 1st part of it. 5000 rockets have been fired. it is the time to unite only our openings. my mic powers to the throat of these riley occupation done to the old and the young, but fight. this is the time to expel lows, occupying land for them to pay the price for these crimes and murders, gathering monks and pray that we will be victorious to us talk to. so our car is here, isn't occupied east jerusalem sorrow where in unprecedented times a big shock for is really the events of this morning today of course is saturday, but it's also a jewish holiday. what does the reaction been where you are? oh well i have to say everyone here is quite shocked caesar now it seems a hot so racing cause it was very much unexpected to be happening. he over occupied a series of them. you just missed the sirens, go off. has been happening since the early hours this this morning,
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i'd say probably from about 7 am local time on what we just had in the last couple of minutes. there's a few explosions. i counted probably about 5 to 6 of those. and you can just see the up in the sky a trial of what we could see like full rocket. but when ha, spend a few puffs of smoke in the vars. they. usually the ones are intercepted by the eye and the ions i'm is this is rarely a technical system that manages to successfully in to set many of the real kits that come. 1 from gaza, usually you would see this happening close to tel aviv on the outskirts new the gaza strip. but very rarely would you find this happening in occupied is jerusalem . this had happened a few months ago where it was on the terror at trees on the outskirts, let's say this time it's clearly overhead over above us in the sky,
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in the center of occupied east jerusalem. now as you said, this is absolutely unprecedented. we have been hearing from these riley government in the last, i'd say hoffman arrows, so they have confirmed that they have been at least 5 people killed. but from the videos we have been seeing throughout this morning, it's very clear that that number is likely to be more much higher. they're also saying that move been a hundreds of people have been wounded. they have confirmed that they have managed to interest. that's quite a few rockets but some of those. okay, so they say, well 2200 root cause is how much they've calculated that will fide from the gaza strip just this morning in these last few hours. and clearly it's been happening or the headspace project. creates but quite regularly i would say um certainly this is the 3rd time probably in the last hour an hour and a half. i'd say we've also heard from israel's defense minister,
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a young girl on who's a cold on on all is riley reservists within the minute treat to come enjoying that also cool. this operation they said again come us as uh, the uh, the, i'll just bring you the name up a sold operations towards. and it just shows you that this has completely taken them by surprise. the question is, is, how does this happen? how did those sizes from cost on brigade fall off? how much the arms we manage to get through an info traces today is a day off. it's a, it's a, a day where jews usually stay in. his writings would stay within the homes. it was very caught quiet. it's also the last day one of the most important jewish holidays. so quotes in the jewish collins, but also it's just 24 hours. also a 50 year anniversary of the 1973. what agents and uh, serial. also then at the time took is. 8 by complete surprise,
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it was on young couple another religious day within the jewish calendar. it's also known as a day of, of, of a solemn the sir. you know, this government is planning to meet the timing, to convene the staying at 1 pm local times. i'll be having a meeting to decide what happens next, but it's very clear the israel has carried out. it's fast as strike on golf the and it's going to hit by called, this is absolutely unprecedented that we're calling it by quoting a war even against what's been going on. now i also just wanted to, as, as well, so part from the operation be being called i. and so you also have these ready forces declaring a states of a lot what a cool of will they will. so want these ready public's a bay instructions. they said on to stay home, but also saying remain in foot and side fortified areas. it will serve as riley's,
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especially on the border with gauze. a strict will have a lot of bunkers if you like to a high, but we've been seeing extremely graphic videos. so one of them was of a clear the oven is riley that had been shots want in the car, his body hanging out of the car as a call scroll down the road. we seen pictures of several bodies lying across the streets. if this has taken them by surprise, spices from homos have managed to infiltrate and into areas they normally wouldn't be able to. and so how does that happen? these are going to be raising all lots of questions within the high i'll patch loan of the military. and of course benjamin netanyahu will be prime minister benjamin netanyahu will be posing that meeting if not already with those top officials. and sorry, you've been reporting from monkey pod east jerusalem for some time now for some months. it gave us an idea of how the tensions have been watching off for some time
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between the palestinians and the israelis. i mean, this is not completely out of the blue as it it's absolutely as invest. yeah. it has been the most tense and violent. yeah. you could say between is riley. i'm palestinians, if just down the road from here, it strikes the all the way down to the old city of jerusalem. it has some of the homeless sites full, most highly dues, but most slims and questions we were filming the just couple of days ago during this holiday with some of orthodox jews. you know, i'll be maybe some of the more extreme ones with spacing out the instances of churches, which happens regularly, but it's been massively increasing. we spoke to one of the church leaders who told us that these incident says well happening on average 20 times a month. but of course, with this holiday, it has increased on the church and the christine community tends to not be targeted
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in the same way. so this seems to be one i spent today is to actually design awesome. what was the reason for that? they, in their opinion, this increase in a split thing attacks and graffiti and, and, uh, vandalism against churches. and they said they believe it's because of the current is really government. this government right now in the short history of israel as a nation, has the most fall rights. ultra orthodox members within the government that have been price has been held by. is riley's every single week since the beginning of the since this new governments came in on the prime minister benjamin netanyahu for him to come into power. he needed a coalition. he's been in power before the longest, subbing prime minister in his riley history. and those products has to have been taking place have been against industry reform. so you can just get
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a sense of this kind of atmosphere with this current government when it comes the to the palestinians and their rights or to set 2 state solution that seems so far from what, where they were talking about a few years ago we had representatives from the us visit a few months ago talking about a state to state solution. we keep hearing this, but it doesn't seem to be actually happening. there's normalization of relations with israel and all the are of countries on the question is going to be moving on forward when it comes to normalization. where does this leave saudi arabia, which was looking like it might be joining some of the other countries, such as the u, a. e, when it comes to normalization of relations with israel. but this current misspeak especially for palestinians, is becoming increasing the honda. if we look at spoke to pipe territories, you have occupied east jerusalem and occupied westbank, palestinian.

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