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benjamin netanyahu was down to defeat thomas, who says they'll be mikey vengeance for the group actions. that kid by mouth houma, we will mobilize all our resources and capabilities to respond to how much we will take revenge for all the young people who lost their lives. we will target all of how much disposition we will turn gaza into a deserted island according to the citizens of gauze. i say you must leave now, so we will target each and every corner of the strip a little bit. now for hook timely, at least a 100 people have been killed when 2 f quake struck less than half down to stop the majority of $6.00 quakes devastated villages in herat province. so those were the headlines. the news continues and on out as they are often upfront spectrum. thanks so much and bye for now. own our

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as every on september 19th, military operation into newborn know kind of our resulting in tens of thousands of ethnic armenians being the territory. the enclave has been disputed for decades, and while it is internationally recognized as part of as every john and so now it had been governed by ethnic armenians. so is our servers on guilty of ethnic cleansing, as some of its critics suggest for is barcode just reclaiming its territory as it claims. and will the conflict in with the bartow kind of back, or is there a risk of further escalation? well, actually in bassett, or in the republic of our service jobs in the united kingdom is we've headliner lean. so the model, the lean, so the model of invested or the republic of has ever gone to the united kingdom. what, thank you for joining me on upfront a thank you. thank you. my. thank you for the invitation. as evan jones military operation into the garden. okay. kind of back into the territory is

led to a mass exodus of 100000 people or more almost the entire population of the territory . according to the un, high commissioner for refugees gives that statistic to us. this is now led to a humanitarian crisis. among those who fled with many suffering from severe malnutrition, but yet a day after the incursion is edward jones president, it'll have olive said his sources had, quote, punished the enemy, who's the enemy here to? that's a very good question. thank you my. the enemy definitely. uh, the troops of the problem to provide me is stationed on the territory. they also brought to me that the, not the only to as a bunch on the side, but also to the same test of thousands of letting me in a residence. we lived there who brought them into this conflict of i basically between the john and other media as quote and close the suffering. now they'll also are the enemies. also the people who let december, the city shame for a long time. and now the custody knows about john, who offered me that as tags,

ballistic me, sales tax into the city and targets into the budget. but the people of ethnic, i mean in the background with oh, there's events the that not all in the me. in fact, that repeatedly as a budget has reached out to them, urging them to stay, offering them citizenship to become a part of diverse cultural as a budget. it is a function to so many left. we hope that some of them will come back. some of them have the option past, but some of them i mean in the past, but so they may not come back. but uh, we do hope to have a normal life for most of the journey and it think, i mean it should be this. and also by the way, the same person who leads you in a show high commission for the features in the media. she also said that there was no credible set to mouth treatment of the people who were leaving. uh got it. okay, just so i think that the, let's talk about those civilians. you mentioned the people who have contributed to the suffering of civilians. it seems to me that the civilians are the ones who are

the primary recipients of suffering in this situation over 80 percent have left a unit that says 30 percent of those arriving are minors in many have been separated from their families, especially representative of the world health organization says that new arrivals in armenia need, quote, urgent emergency assistance. given all of the suffering that this population has experience now us, it wasn't worth putting all of these people in such a dire emergency state for this military operation. that's a, that's an excellent question to the people who love this. i mean that the vision who always use this people as, as an excuse to go soften and to others and to achieve their political goals listed back for a 2nd. why is the population of got a bunch of these, you know, as a bunch on these 100 percent, that meaning about duties and for the last 30 years is because is that mostly generalist company to the ethics of please kind of as the degree just had the. busy

$1000000.00 as the journey and it goes the all cleaned up. they've all flushed out in 1999 since i've worked with you in each. so i was witness to people arriving in the horrible condition. i mean, we do not want to do what that means have done to us. that's why we immediately offered them to stay focused on what's happening right now. it seems to me that there is a very clear practice of mistreatment here structurally that has to be accounted for. i mean, there's this report that was released last year that stated that there is a wide spread state sponsored practice of racial discrimination employed by a zaplishny authorities against ethnic armenians. this was just last year, president all the evidence speeches as made references to armenians as dogs. how could i possibly believe? how can anyone part the question, was there you, minutes is, or how does, how possibly, are we supposed to believe that armenians are going to have their rights protected?

how could it armenians themselves trust that their rights would be safe, guarded when the government is using language like this, and when they're such a demonstrative will examples of harm a well, let's, let's put things into perspective. but 1st of all, effects on the go. nobody called on me is dogs. the soldiers who look human guys are about john and submit is changed out of the budget and also the patient tube. so why would we say, why is it but nothing to do it again? when we look at the direct report that was submitted to the human committee on the elimination of racial discrimination, it's also about a public discourse by public officials that has been seen as a sign and a symptom of racial discrimination. referring to our meetings as barbarians as vandals, as fast as the get. the report didn't just talk about troops, it was talking about a systematic state sponsored practice of racial discrimination against ethnic armenians. how do you respond to that report? again, not just an isolated case against the troops as you are legend, but against, oh yeah. either way to, by the way, the, and those are those,

those are the thoughts by the way, about, i mean, yeah, just give me a nation and lag, which was an, i mean, i guess the budget is best to cock this is the big couple of the soviet union, but you know, in the vote in the state of varied the conflict a, there was a mass that goes on with it, but just assuming is one me the people who kicked out on their homes. of course the, the solution is tense. we hear every day uh, validation, it's slow to uh, reference as far as the budget. so united media, i mean it's just horrible language exhibit again, legitimately beyond beyond the language of conversation. i mean, he is having visit as about doing it due to the end coming to the world traps we have not ever caused the both of us about john, do you feel that the language has been used by uh, by your country's authorities not just to present it, but other officials has made the situation more or less then do you feel like the instructions. com is that towards your escalated it? let me say that because it is. uh, several days ago president i leave spoke medically with it. he said, we do not hold local, i mean, you population that it's possible for the crimes committed by the separatist

leadership. he said the, our citizen, just like everybody else. so i would suggest to look at the actions and also look at the ultimate due to a we offer, i mean is to the, to leave with our society to be a part of the best paradigm. in december of 2022, your government began blocking the launching core door, the only room connecting a newborn know kind of back to armenia, which led to severe food medicine and fuel shortages. the former chief prosecutor of the international criminal court. louisa moreno or compo initially said through the blockade, a quote, genocide is underway against $120000.00 armenians living in the guard know cut about now he adds that be that are, that are separate jobs, military operation. further as to the definition of a genocide, how do you respond to the former chief prosecutor of the international criminal court? the mug boots joe sighed and noticed that very heavy boots. let's not use them. i like this is it. this is clearly not the general side. i mean,

oh i why is that clearly? and then obviously the guy or general side is what happened in the general side is what happened in uh, so they really need to hear. you have a conflict uh with a separate this what i mean, just let me just uh, let me, let me talk to some of them for clarity here. the definition of genocide is not to be like one to the definition of a genocide under the wrong statute. is defined as acts committed with an attempt to destroy in whole or part a national ethnical racial or religious group. including killing members of the group causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group. deliberately inflicting on the good conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction holder. in part, when we talk about cutting off severely cutting off food medicine and a fuel that seems to meet those conditions. so again, we don't have to compare not to come on 1st. mr. the dixon offered a very clear debunk debunking of our compass exam. so i mean, this is a legal issue. it takes a long time, but i don't think the definition you describe actually perfectly fits what happened

does a budget. so the hands of, i mean, is the complete destruction or our group and removing as a budget is from the got a bunch of agents. what we offer, we offer from the very beginning to stay and to accommodate and to become a citizen and doing to good. you don't build up the groups you wanted to store. you don't sit down, do you have the communications for 3 years to build water supplies? and if a stack of projects and supplies she think to go to school for the good, which one of the so that's, that's, that's, that's completed. oh no. on the, the watching the boat, the we did not will do it, you know, to establish, they've established a boat the check for ever this summer. and they shouldn't go to the boat to check. but we are very close with stokes. what if i have a boat on the boat of to get we have a boat to check, but what they didn't want to do is to make sure that i did what that what's as it goes. somebody mean it was a by john on the. busy is a check because what happened that by the plan, you know, know, and i mean,

he is admitted to that thing got about that the land of mice, which i spoke to, i mean, to sort of what they did and weapons were coming in towards the by john, that's what we wanted to prevent with the name of the event mid this is out of and by the way, it was always open for the medical to as it by. i see, i see. and about 60 people eh, we went back and 1st went medical treatment. that's not genocide. this doesn't get much. we want to live in peace. was that mean? yes, we are neighbors in the same verbiage. and we have very much of like how old kinds of acquisitions. so i got dougald help, long lasting peace between as a budget. and i mean that's what we need to focus on. we won't lose that. so what are you sure i was waiting. so what are you waiting, 7 months to lift the blockade despite a binding order from the international court of justice also does nothing to help matters that, that, that is actually misinterpretation of the order of icy j the or uh do or the i see the, the i think they did say they made a ruling. the blockade quote,

may have a serious detrimental impact on the health and live. i'm going to kind of box population they border as that bizarre and to quote, take all measures to take all measures, edits, disposal, to ensure unimpeded movement of persons, vehicles and cargo. along the legend border in both directions, there was not unimpeded. the vehicles and cargo for 7 months. no, no much would be because because later, i mean, yes, i mean, you're actually billed to the same quotes, demanding the removal of the boat, the post and the code refused to act on this. and the reason is because to think a boat, the post on the board to just do not state has any other nation, has it and able to install the initiative that, that putting a boat a check point is not. and it didn't go over the task. but it's actually a normal practice accepted by the whole, but we are no different from the rest of the vote. i mean these are not the only people have the patio de normally that's it. how do you account with a severe food medicine and fuel shortages?

that's that's a very good question because the domino with which goes into the budget has been full with as a budget to actually offer the supplies to i mean using, got about and i mean, yeah, the set by just initial reviews and toner, visual basic smells. think about this much, you would not accept a medical supplies flow and how did you need it was simply because it's gone. so people did what i missed speaking up with the show at indicated that's what it is. so what was the, what, what is the content the road opened i did was only opened up to the end of the position because i mean the operation, but just the clear because out of what the, what is to somehow think that this role was open and open on august 31st, 8 months after the blockade began because a we also, we also to open as much earlier. the refusal gave them that means that they even put a bit on a concrete blocks that now think about this in other way as well. uh,

the moment the position ended, all the supplies went from mazda about you have to, you do not supplied people, was all the needs the moment, if you did a commenting something instead of both of them. we, by the way, we talk to our admissions and he got about, we talked to them all along different meetings, on the delegations, and it shows your opinion, was that other protests active? so i think either way, either way all of this negative image created that i'll devote and it is possible statements by people like a couple have created the tool link is the position in among the population of ethnic. i'm using data, but unfortunately many of them left. it's too we'd never urge them to live. quite the opposite to the state. we never, we never wanted them to live. we actually, i was there, but john is open. we have an integration photo asking them to come and it is just the come back. fair enough, mississippi amount of i wanna thank you so much for your time and joining in upfront my pleasure. thank you. the, it has been

a turbulent summer for france in june. police shot dead a 17 year old french boy, a moroccan, and now during the cent. now his modest soup, inciting mass rides across the nation. a couple of months later, the french government announced that it would be placing a national battle wearing the eye by a, a full length robots and one by most of the women in public schools causing fury among the muslim community. so is the slightest band, the defense of secularism. is the government claims or will it lead to more racial and religious discrimination discuss these developments were joined by french journalist in filmmaker required the yellow thank you so much for joining upfront. it's good to see you for inviting me. i'm really glad to. absolutely, let's. let's start with what's going on on the ground. frances education administer gabriella town called wearing the eye by a quote, a religious gesture aimed at testing the resistance of the republic toward the secular sanctuary. that school must be. this was a very controversial decision. can you tell us about their kind of reasons and the

timing for this decision? so to me there out and the official reason and an actual reason. so initially, the principle of security, reason in france was meant to be a principle of equality and over the like because it's being a principal or for a bishan target to most friends. and to move has to do with a long history of colonial control of women's buddies. we can tie it back to the or calling it is a right now, jerry, whether it was and feeling ceremonies that's were organized by the wives of the colonial generals to invade publicly as human women, to make them see and actually look frontier. so actually one barely literally taking their video of it all like the posters, are seeing on to more beautiful without the video. and it was something that was going on in the late fifties. so the idea that you all center, if you look like the traditional french swimming is something that didn't really

appear on the the summer. but you say that the origin of this, at least the spirit of the law, wasn't that of course it was to get rid of the influenza slow spring in strength of the catholic church. it was to the lowest, voted in 19 o 5, and it was meant to separate the states from the church and to have the states being useful and no to because magazine officially any religion. so little was voted 20 years ago to bon public signs of religious public signs in school. so the law says public um they just probably signed, but the debate was over the huge job. so the agent was bon 20 years ago, and they now want to go further and further. and the thing is that you can tell apart and the buy a from address. so how would you enter that, what you're gonna buy it? and what's the address that they would say? well, clearly the buy, it is a visibly religious of us. at least the associated garment that when you see it, i buy a, you know that that person is most them. but what we've seen in schools is that many girls had dressed see that they bought in h and then is that right? it's one of the actual, the bias. but that was in that were interpreted as

a bias and they were buying some school because of that. and the only reason why it was seen as a buyer is because they were who were african, i'll be right from a natural enough african original black. so is like, you can have both like 2 with 2 girls having the same dresses, but one is white and the other is not. and one would be a scene as we're going to buy it and the other. so it's really enabling racial profiling. and that's what happened after the return to school, according to one pulled by the french institute on public opinion. 81 percent of french people support the band. other polls show interestingly enough, that it's not just right wing support here. in fact, the majority of 2 of frances left wing party supporters, the brains and fronts, and so nice, also support this band in large numbers. now your base and france, of course, the mass support. where's it coming from? again, not just right wing support, but it's a lot. yeah. i basically like the largest part of the population. i think it's both

the result of a it is and these levels will be perfect and that has been going on for 4 years for the kids like the had been the bon off on the, he's up and then the bottom of the beginning like the full length uh, swim suits, uh uh, in the, in the cheese and that have actually used the public opinion to just accept the fact that, um, mostly men does have a right to enjoy the, for the space. and if to me important to remind the friend that during the last business, the presidential election last year, the national valley, which is the far right apache, maybe to the 2nd round, is the state guns. political force in friends asked you to presidential election during the payment to re election the had a to 9 and peace elected international assembly, which is a lot we, we have never seen that in history so far right is being mobilized and the government is running after a that's the, the, the, the, the, the,

the votes of the people who believe in the, as in those ideas. and to me, the normalization office har arise, has made the principal pollution more easier to accept or resist ideologies. many countries talk about color blindness. mm hm. uh, but france, literally, ca defies this idea of color blind is by not even collecting data on race demographics. it's like, race just doesn't exist as access or how does that play out in everyday life? how does that impact minorities? how does that impact social services? how does that shape how we think or respond to what's going on? so i understand that the color blindness is a very beautiful idea. can you provide isn't. and i understand why it's difficult in friends to collect data because of the holocaust. because like the last time the government collected that thought it was meant to deport and exterminate thousands of a 1000 us like and hundreds of thousands of people who would choose were sent to the

camps uh the concert concentration cam. so i understand why we us to not comfortable with the government having and collect for today does. but the consequence of that is that the people from the national assembly have voted to remove the word race from the constitution is like because they say that it doesn't exist as in biology. what, what i get, but it does exist as a social contract construct. and it does have, as effect on all day to day life. so the consequence of that is that it's very difficult to speak about the race in france. i use so, and i'm constantly accused of importing an american lens onto friends. and as creating something that doesn't exist. so it's a freshman to me. critically give it in places a is a social construct. me say it's not food in biology, that's an american, then it would be just as not real. and in the united states, right. do they actually not see the value in thinking or looking for racial means

at all? no, i would say that it's racist because we are the same. so i'm the one bringing up a topic that is that doesn't belong to friends. and to me, it's a way of just not addressing a problem because friends has been sometimes several times by the european court of human rights. it's been on the subject, the topic of free posts from i'm this international from human rights, which because of racial prof, provide a parties for fighting and racial pretty society but, but there was no response. there was no official response from the front side because not addressing ways. being color blind is also a way to get away with racism because you say it doesn't exist. so you don't do anything, even if they all just look to say all the people getting a press, all the people getting treated for the schools, all the people getting shot by the police and basically all of this way. and that, that way as coincidence. yes. and you speak about race in this course, he's ways to see when, you know, can you the take whatever reason to learn about? yeah, it's just a racist. but you said, no,

it's our tradition. it's like you're there isn't and it's not, you know, it's, that's from us ends. it's anyone who would have a video to sign, but it's happens that's only mostly have very visible video to sign. and actually, um, yeah that's, that's the, that's the way of speaking about, about the race without really speaking about it. as you pointed out, many in france, look at the work of intellectuals like yourself. and they say you're importing american or anglo saxon identity politics that don't actually exist in france present. my cronies even echoed this idea. in 2020 he won. the french intellectuals have yielded to quote, anglo saxon traditions based on a different history, a history that he claims is not ours. how do you respond to this? as i said, as of funds for i know who inspired uh, black americans was french and uh, that friends is the only country to be present on full continents. so you have the, you are friends, part of friends, but you also have to tie been territories,

guadalupe, not to nick, but also some thoughts, indian gen ocean which is the reading island and my yet also some fox into french for a new job. 80. you kind of doing, yeah, so that is the result of fast and truman colonial party. 6. and i think that i try to to, to, to quote a french examples and to be inspired by french intellectuals because those people are friends of one. so i know, for example, are it's known in nor did buy different books fear that if you go to friends and you have a place that would come in moray, they'll set up with someone who fought against racism. you would find a transportation named after was a pox you would find a pop named after him at the end of the king. you will never find someone french having a place ordering their work against racism. so that's also another way to say, yes, it's a problem that's, that's we care about, but it's an american program, so we will buy that on there. uh, you know, not sending data. who is the south african or mountain? it's a king then, you know,

from something new or in this is that even the image image data there, as recently had, finally, image was station, but it's still very, very, it's taking a long time. okay, i do. hello. thanks so much for joining that upfront. thank you so much. all right, everybody, that is our show upfront. we'll be back. next week the, the the close to more than a decade of civil life remains a challenge in sierra leone. we follow the citizens of this world,

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