that has already been tested here in the occupies most banks, already palestinian fighters deciding to take up arms and a whole. and i saw is really sorry, guess whether it's you, this really supplements or the schools are now you can imagine the news that came from this major escalation. heard the, such as if you remember how this is being received here, amongst kind of thing is they say they know that they have been the weaker party for so long. they know that they've been the victims of a military occupation, but the fact that they can show 4th shows the may be israel will be the 3rd from it's violations here in the occupied west. but now when it comes to the palestinian authority. yes, the palestinian president has spoken about the rights for palestinian peoples to defend themselves. he's also working on a political past. he's already asked the arab league to polls at emergency meeting

to discuss the situation. what's here? people are not counting much on what is happening in these close doors. they believe that now the word is with those we're fighting and the basically putting a lot of hope on the results of the current escalation. i knew that what is the possibility of a wider escalation in parts of the wes thing that we've seen for months, a quote off in the cycle of is really incursions and financing. well, i'll be hearing on this thing from some of the palestinian factions that you know, like the lions den and so on the line and then has called upon people to go and to fight these really forces in the different locations here in the us back. we've heard people from jeanine activity as fights are a 19 year old who has been killed in his funeral. it's taking place to say,

we've seen a video of him yesterday calling upon people to go and 5, he's from have from. but he has been saying in jeanine and working with the fighters, they have, but it's hard to predict how n, when these fighters are going to be able to act and commit effects in the west bank . yes, they've been reinforced and they've been getting good signals. let's say from the fact that there is a major escalation that has been started by him. us both at the very same time they've already been attacking is really targets. they've already been involved in attacks against it and to get us really settlers and what have you. basically, it's a waste and see how this situation is going on. all right, we'll leave it there. thanks so much the, the abraham my house, i any is a strategy director of the non profit you are mad human rights monitor and the goal

is a resident. she says it's been a very difficult 24 hours. as one of the harshest nights we have witnessed that for the past 2 years since 2021, particularly as red, has been using action equal kitchen concussion funds over neighborhoods and residential buildings. these bonds are um, are targeting several neighborhoods where we feel vibration and the ground and those things before we hear rocking up on things and rocking the they'd say neighborhoods this morning, this early morning is right. it has locked down at 12 story building here in the doesn't how i see, for example, where i live in the south garza, we are bearing the brunt of this attack. we have been witnessing mumblings, and or residential buildings. every 5 minutes. the explosions are rocking every

place and gaza started now and no place is safe. and we can feel very well that any time at any moment we can be targeted. overall, we live in a completely civilian areas and residential buildings. what it seems that is read has been following this strategy for the past decade of inflicting the maximum damaged disability and property and civilians. it's, it's, it's like part of its collective punishment against palestinians. and because of strep, we're taking griffin on god's law by the mass killings and inflicting the damage to the civilian properties. the these incidents we have witnessed throughout the past 1220 hours. where is red, has completely knocked down at least residential buildings. housing offices start tops and media offices, and also clinics. these offices prove, have proven, or these buildings have proven to be completely civilians managed mostly by

startups and young people and guys who are running their businesses in the as the days the health system and gaza has already been collapsing. as a result of the, it's where you're located since 2006, we have already been facing difficulties even receiving proper medical treatment in the normal times. and the regular times today under military attacks, the house becomes are over, over whelmed, with the large number of people killed been injured. hospitals have, or the ministry of health has been cooling on the residential, gaza for blood donations. we are talking about 44 percent of medications that are at 0 stop and the gaza hospital or the before the doc. you can imagine now doing that that us because are facing difficult pieces coping with the larger number of people injured. adding to this mystery as ryan has also targeted in the new gen

hospital. in the north of gauze, i use their day link at least one medical staff member and awful, inflicting damage to 5 underlines as well. joining me now is time to promote a garza native and professor of public policy at the the institute for graduate studies. thank you so much for coming in. thank you. signing for those perhaps who are not familiar with the background. did they say explain to us the background to this? as long as you have root causes, what do you and several of you and officials, coal root causes occupation, sage going on. is it just only a question of time before we see these repeated cycles of conflict? but of course, i mean that's a very good question and i have to emphasize that's the causes of this the, the conflict remains and still it's the continuation of the days that a minute took a patient end up at the system in place in palestine. that's the key,

main ad with goals because that also another important, the factual the reasons for this among the switches that then and clinically that then it is function piece of process. and then the national communities absence from the lead, giving it a life back on the stage. why now? time and why we understand the background and situation. but why do we see this very massive, unprecedented move by how mass outside of gaza. so i think that a couple of good reasons for this. first of all, how much as both a part of the in governance and all sort of sort of justice movement at the same time. so it's, it's taken care of, of the livelihood of $2200000.00 for the thing is living on the decision that is the length of the guy is a step. so a governance comes with a single slip responsibilities and the from the social economy perspective in the goes to the things are very bad from all fronts. secondly,

him as wants to remain or to send the message to the community and also please read on the board, especially normalizing countries that, that, that i was going to say is this tied to the wave that was going on out in college. okay, let's make peace. i'll explain how to close the off. so basically over the last uh, i think it over to that i see it with this very right wing for not the government that isn't know that have been many items by these ladies, the fragments and divide the student movement specially the see the public movement correct the pay is very weak if isolated from one side, then you're off how mess, watching and observing. and it's one of the things that thomas is that is the way to engage that with its own troubles and its own challenges for govern. but how much that saves? no, i'm spend he had, i'm a kid. i have been fucked to. and you, i'm not going to be able to isolate me. i play this divide and conquer politics. so this comes number one as one of the strategies for how much to say i am relevant. i'm here. secondly, how may i assist sending

a key specific message to normal hasn't got up states and also toner mothers. they should have tense with a b as well, being part of the 5th motor less, despite to be honest. i mean, the p also has a clear position of optimization that edition will not bring any security. the reason if is that it cannot predict itself as lucky how much the the status of this man. i need a he said normalization will not but execute. if it's not, it's the correct. if it's gonna come up the product itself, from how most, how would it predicts other countries which off to looking for ways that i sort of my lies on the, the, the fix of is a little bit more security for the user and be able to defend us as a collective i like so it is the message that how much is trying to send is they'll be no peace without and then to the occupational software of palestinians. and we are relevant policy that represent that resistance. i'm kind of being loaded as what out. it says something just talked about in terms of the dynamics, the internal palestinian dynamics here that i'm also sending a message about that whether it's the, the p a,

whether it's the rise of new groups like the lions den engineer id the yes yes. yes. yes. of course, how much is more or less leading the foundation of, of, of a new resistance approach both also, both also. and it says that no matter what is what i can do, i mean, no matter how powerful it is, what i was with all that submitted the as an add on, and it's control of land and cnn. as long as for the student as of the, we would resist by all means and surprisingly, the most impoverished, isolated, neglected it into what guides us to them. that the fact of having us has managed to do this minute 3 operation or finish it this morning is the despite all the money and that is ation. and then borrowing for them that goes to the it sends a message. this is a people from the sales of people who wants to feed them, are equals, willing to, to die, to offer whatever they have to. let's see. and that's, that's a big message. but is it also you kind of keep occupation time to stay with me for?

i mean, i want you to listen in on an interview. i had a couple of hours ago with somebody come down and he's a senior spokesman for him us and he says he's right. your staff is a part of the occupation. this is really important point to me. i forgot who the last 20 is, is and hold the tax against does and killed thousands of his team in savannah and no one has any comment to i. i was to, but as of them to by then talking about standing beside is what you and then set tax against the but the scene as well. it's kind of what could i see? he's not talking about the philistines with being killed. yes. that they are for so many team members send me to ship at so many way to kill this my it's why is there any bumbling and then at as try can on the on house with that is normally they times they're they went on recipients uh y when you are talking about the stickler,

i'm not talking about the civilians like the 15 minutes. you are talking about cit, lance. what i'm to can bring the to take these raise if these various a targeting and killing innocent palestinians civilians that does not mean international. it's acceptable, full power steering? no target until then exactly what they didn't try. it's not that accepted to attack civilians at golden sense. i'm not sure low. so that should come back to my customer. why won't let me say, may i read to a statement by amnesty international, which is condemning the targeting by israel of palestinian civilians. but it's also condemning in the state and by october, the 7th, st. palestinian groups must refrain from targeting civilians and using indiscriminate weapons ex, amounting to war crimes, is i'm just here. when i have to say that you have to differentiate between the 2 levels and the civilians disclose that code into the international law. the,

i'm up to date in the out, or don't they, they, at the same is the, they, they, in fact true to the, against the, for the statements. so we will have to differentiate between both of issues, the civilians and the fit gloves for mazda, for them, for the, for law civilians. and we were the say, what my, which is what i'm to see, thing firing rockets, all indiscriminate weapons that can hurt and do hurt civilians. when we hope we hope that misty can add to the international community to either to may come in for that is related to permission or to as them to send a more. busy develop bloodlines to attack just only the soul just because we are not targeting on pen for specific means, you know, that is a huge amount of civilian targets and fi that's provided last month. thing for to to is how much this month and going to try to think of them. we have declared that

the sick lot of the farm, those are the 2 patients. and the sick loves they are part of the on is a really poor the, i'm not know what i'm assuming. it is as they are named all the time. all right, let's spring. and once again, i'm going to promote a golf and native professor of public policy though he is jew for graduate study. so in that exchange that we should be very clear, of course, any targeting of civilians, palestinians orders right, is, is clearly not justified in international law. right now the course of course, and the cycle that we're seeing though with this constant bleeding of civilian life, that is going to probably harden the public positions on both sides. now we have a very extreme white wind government and as well, and you have a protestant in population that's been under immense pressure and occupation for the hates. yes. i mean, i correct, i mean, but pretty much, i mean, to put things into perspective,

we have to differentiate between the state fronted orders and i thought to get them of civilians, which is what it is doing. right. and how much time is that? what is the conflict? it's not, it's not, it's not the states not to from the state the politic effect of you know, maybe 20 years ago with the international community. is it like, you know, engage with thomas or 90 for the think of that for me. how much would have been more align to the mode of it? i would say a reasonable resistance, but again, it's you cannot equate the 2 sides. the scene is on that occupation data business thing with whatever tools they have. yes, civilian casualties are a very sad and unfortunate but, but the stuff this of the means they have while is that it is a small community, but they should be a respective international law is one of the little flaps of united because of these, i should not be based on the 2 sites, but i, and from my perspective isn't have the upper hand. it is the most sophisticated enough in the world on the deal, not find pals on smart weapons. and the practically go off to city and it's how mass has its own rockets which go left that right,

that's 10 minutes. but that's the only some the only tools and techniques they can use at hand to defend themselves. so it's, it's, it's not that black or, or what do i think, is this something of a regional message being sent here. the, the allegation that you know, the rain in play a role in these kinds of conflicts because of their agenda are as well versed as all the arab countries who wants to normalize ties with this. well i, i think that's a very good question and, and my answer is, my opinion is a, i mean the key clear message is 2 countries are looking to normalize with visitors and the method he is. if he's right and kind of protect, i mean, what happens is a big insult from one minute to perspective. so is the relevance. but let's say for that as an intelligence about this. so this, this message is better if you would align with needs that i have at the expensive, but a student has nothing goal for the student who is an interest and then you want, is it a to protect you against it on what i mean? any other received any me from the side is what it is a for john state from within. so do not rely on it. secondly, i mean,

the 1st step is that simple, which would welcome any support from any part of this case at this stage in our struggle fully patient, we should welcome any support coming from any country. i don't think we have problems with it on what i bet. so it's will come from, from the student perspective. all right, and obviously not the one to mind. the state of shock and the civilian, the civilian suffering in israel now with no reports of many civilians who've been killed in these in these exchanges. but as a native of gauze, i'd like you to talk to me about the grow, the much greater civilian suffering. that's being going on what his daily life mean for a golf and on the siege is we speaking of it with, with humanitarian aid workers and say that facing trouble if they need to evacuate someone in critical condition, they face challenges getting medicine, sometimes into goals that are in so long electricity's comp, i mean, you know, okay, so i live most of my youth and doesn't even work well then at the nations for something

has come and goes up. and so let me put it this way. this is the largest open at a prison in the woods. the most populated area in the world in terms of, uh, uh, uh, like pick up and a distribution on a piece of plans. less probably of the, all the basic stuff protection like we're talking about public filters. uh you know, name it's so basically if you hit any target them does, you're gonna hit the civilian and there is no way to go. i mean, nothing. yeah. we have so the said that he wants to turn the guys into a deserted document. that's, you know, it's, i mean, in, in the, in the, in the sent. it can wait because i've been at pacific islands. oh, but that's one of us. some way to the millions of people go nowhere because it's surrounded by isn't it from all sides of them, from egypt, from the salt itself. and you know, movement from egypt is not flexible. so guidelines literally have it's a cage. they have no where to sleep. so for him to pen guzman,

that runaway bit confused. there is no way for them to go. so. so for me, from a state perspective and insulated by international is obligated to protect people under the commission. was it is the medical, okay. patient by what they should do, they should do the best to not thought a good sabrina's, but it's what they do is just a month to clear off the civilians because the most part is also not that is enough easy targets for reserves. so when you go into the 3 and attention the target, this throw it in thought of looks on apartments and buildings. knowing that you have safina is that with your sophisticated weapons, that's the water that it could. i'm, you can combine, we'll just have a fairly brief last question. do you see a double standards when you watch coverage of, for example, the conflicted ukraine. and you, you look at the very decisive response against any idea of acquiring territories through will fail of occupation versus the narrative. that as for sales, when it comes to the palestinians, it's, it's, it's, it's somebody else to, i think it's that else that i think i'm better stream for the same time. i mean,

i was thinking like, you know, if, if, if, if the collective voice menu was, i'm going to say about the international when we use the tenants and that's what i'm looking for. it's like a size that is no unified, this is definition of it. but mainly i would focus on the collective wisdom comfortable because that very for the ones that wait with it today. it's shameful. it's shameful, just double standards and this, and i'm not seeing the student as equal as, as late as human beings. that's something that is troubling to me with also many of these stories that what's the countries would have been countries for example, went through the 2nd world war general, liberating from them as these and set it up. so it strikes me that they haven't lost that somewhere, right? you know, so that's why we have cypress. thank you so much, thomas, for coming in. welcome and token to us. thanks. and this been global concern over the spiking violence between israelis and palestinians. we have to correspondence monitoring that john henry is in the us capital. how a force it is in london. and let's go straight over 1st though to john henry. and so we're getting the usual body politic passing of running around as well as at the

time of conflicts are as right, a broad the spectrum of us political leaders have rallied behind israel, have offered their support and have condemned the hum us attack. and that includes president joe biden, who gave a statement that he said, will make sure they have the help their citizens need. and he dispatched his secretary of state anthony, blinking to hit the phones to talk to leaders in the middle east. and north africa will bite and made his own calls and the they're trying to de escalate the conflict by contacting all, all of those in the region who might have a better relationship with him or to try to de escalate that situation. now, by that hasn't always had a great relationship with benjamin netanyahu. they've known each other over the decades, but they disagree on settlements. they are on opposite ends of the political

spectrum. but on saturday, president biden had nothing but support for netanyahu's government. israel has the right to defend itself, and as people full stop, there's never justification for terrorist attacks in my administration to support or is your security is rock solid and on way. let me say this is clearly as i can. this is not a moment for any party hostile, the israel to exploit these attacks, to seek advantage the world is watching. all right, and john in the us discourse about the situation, does the issue of dealing with what do you and calls the root causes of conflict ending occupation ending siege? is that a tool coming into the discussion in the narrative in the us? it actually seems like the opposite has happened. semi the binding administration had planned to dispatch lincoln to saudi arabia and to israel,

later this month to work on a pact of normalization diplomatic recognition between those 2 countries. and now that is not likely to happen. that was supposed to be part of a large reorientation of the middle east, and it was hoped that that would include concessions from israel, such as an end to settlements and recognition of an eventual palestinian state. and now they're not talking about that. in fact, what they're talking about is increasing a israel beyond the $3300000000.00 is real got last year in order to help them buy new interceptors for that iron dome system. so they can prevent those have loss rockets from raining down on his really territory. so really quite the reverse. all of the talk about a long term solution seems to have been postponed while they rally behind israel in this concept. all right, good stuff back from john henry,

and let's take this now to europe. how a full set is live for us in london. so how i want, can you tell us about your pin reaction to this as well? it has been almost utilized really condemnatory of what has taken place. so i think the nature of the i'm us raids and attacks in which so many civilians have been targeted to and kidnapped has led to a pretty broad spectrum of content nation. so for example, from the president to the european commission, us move on to line. she said this was terrorism and as most despicable form, a presence macro in front, talking about cell a diety with israel and endorsing israel's rights to, to defend itself. a similar comments from the prime minister here recently. so not saying that he was shocked by the how most attacks of israel has the absolute right to defend itself. the british foreign secretary james cleverly talking about atrocities being perpetrated. and on sunday morning,

a lot of the coverage is 0 and on some of the people involved a german woman who said to have been the, the woman who was taken natured on the back of a truck. a motion was body being taken through a gaza. also one of those missing is said to be a british citizen who was at the uh, the re, the that the sort of does a potty that was taking place just outside gaza overnight as well. i'm. so we've had that very broad range of criticism from european leaders. we're also hearing from various police and security agencies across europe. so in front attention being focused on protecting jewish sites, jewish schools, and synagogues, because of fears of potential attacks in germany as well. the police in berlin with posting images of celebrate tree events, suites being handed out and so on,

supporting the attacks and saying that they were concerned about potential anti jewish attacks inside gemini. and here as well, the metropolitan police in london talking about increasing the trolls and also finding of full potential protests in the coming days. of course everyone is expecting a pretty massive scale is really attack on garza and therefore there are potential protests against that in the coming days. so the metropolitan police here is saying that it is planning to just sort of take into account of those process as well. how i always hearing anything on the diplomatic funds about the escalation, if it's suddenly the french president's office has been talking about his assets speaking to the leaders in egypt and in lebanon,

and the palestinian president without boss as well. according to the president's office, he was quoting the account, the nation of, from those, those leaders of what took place in uh, in southern israel on saturday as well as that there is this un security council meeting that is being called for later on sunday. so yes, there is cool for, for the escalation of the you and representative inside the inside is riley and be in charge of the israel palestine conflict and monitoring it is talking about pulling back from the break. but i think a lot of people are expecting that that, that, that point may, will already have been breached. and that they will be, i think that's more support for his reaction and gaza than we've seen in the past. all right, we'll leave it there and that's thank how a full set from london. that's why that brings us to the end of this hour of news

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may wonder how all of these people don't get lost in the jungles. and the reason that they don't is that they're told to follow these markers from around the world . if i go quiet, you'd be able to hear nothing. there is absolutely no one who's left to the the the cut on the clock. this is like from the coming up in the next 60 minutes. the gun fights on the guns and board, a palestinian fighters fired is ready for the wave of his radio strikes. some of the seas,