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system even been coming to add any international and corruption excellence award. nominates your hero now? the . the hello are you watching out? just 0. i'm emily angry and let's bring it up to speed with the latest developments on the ground in the guys that is around who is riley as strikes a continuing to pound gaza a day off to him, us launched an unprecedented military operation from the territory. the strikes of

heat, residential areas, tunnels and a mosque. at least 370 palestinians had been killed sofa with more than 2200 egypt. and the number of his riley's killed has search to move and 700 st. cleared members of the security forces and civilians, pots of southern east around remain under attack. these run, the government has officially declared war handling the prime minister and defense minister extra powers. before we had to guess, let's take a look at how the human cost of these latest will compose to others in the 2008 on gaza, about 1400 palestinians. and 13 is riley's dive before a cease file was reached in 2014, at more than 3000 palestinians were killed in gaza. 73 is riley's died. most of the members of the armed forces. and 2 years ago,

another flare up and resulted in 250 palace, damian's killed in gods that 13 people lost their lives inside is round. so let's focus now on how the slightest conflict between homos and israel co dependent out and with it. it could be more prolonged and even more basic than those that have come before we've got 3 guess. joining us to discuss this, we have rafael, joselle me. he is a full my as riley intelligence officer and is in that television. we have my one bushera who is l just varies senior political analyst in paris and a parent, patrick, very easily defends and security analysts. before we had to guess though, we're going to cross to the united nations where the is riley and best of it to the united nations is speaking. let's listen to what do you have to say and begin a barbaric pug room, a barbaric port room of on parallel magnitude ruthless terrorists,

gun down innocent is rarely civilians in the streets, murdering any thing that moved anything. i'll show you just one example. just look at this photo of bodies, the women strewn strewn in the streets in the bus stop in a sense, murdered in cold blood these and the more like terrorists broke into homes, gathered entire families in 2 rooms and shut them point blank as if they were stumping on, on the insects, grandparents and the elderly among them. holocaust survivors who endured the nazis were violently dragged from their homes. this time by come us and take and into

gaza. can you give me the photo of the holocaust survivor? little flame of to look at this grandmother being forced to hold a mazda service drive from as he takes a picture with her. this is the new main, new main mother's and their babies. as well as babies, separate that from their mothers were brutally taken hostage. just look at this video now. oh, this mother is crying because she clutches are too precious babies before being put on a truck to gaza. these

are war crimes, blatant documented war crimes, but tragically, the obama nations don't. and here, how much terrorist happened upon an outdoor party of hundreds of young, he's rarely celebrating the holiday weekend. these savages gun doubt jewish travellers, just like not seen death squads. in the 1940s, hundreds, hundreds were butchered their bodies, mutilated, and the files. and those survivors were taken to gaza to listen to this young girl screaming as she is kidnapped. separate that from her friend, not knowing what fate awaits her. the

tried to comprehend the magnitude of this situation and try to digest the ruthless seeing humanity. i have seen shocking footage, graphic images that when forever be seared in my brain what we are witnessing our war crimes blake then barbaric war crimes slots during civilians abusing hostages, taking babies from their route from their mothers. there are no words to describe such savagery. i don't want to imagine what is happening right now to own of those innocent. these riley civilians being held captive in garza, the horrors they are enduring. okay, that was

a huge riley and back to the, to the united nations ahead of a security council meeting. certainly some strong words of condemnation that coming from him. i want to bring in out, is there a senior political analyst, my one for shara to give us his reaction to what was said by the ambassador mullin . oh it's to be expected, of course, that there's been a tragedy of swords for his right. and it was shocked to the core uh, by the attack uh yesterday, uh by her most fighters. and i think uh there, immediately getting engaged in, uh, the coordinations uh campaign in order to do more nice. uh how much and the sinews had, but uh on us in this uh, very particular region, 4 degree, picture or image. dramatic, bloody and sad as it may be,

the front of the city is of course, will produce thousands of images of pictures of palestinians, dead the injured in and kidnapped, and saw so forth by israeli soldiers. and is there a new settlers? it is quite unfortunate that instead of learning the lessons of history and just very particular case, these changes are immediately resorting the same, has about all to more of the same propaganda. instead of really looking inward and to see what are the root causes of this issue and what drives, how much part there's decaying such. and at that, why would they did arise? uh, the population size is red. what is the nature of occupation? what is the nature of oppression that produces based on that resistance? because as we know from 300 years on more of history or such as significant conflicts, when the warfare takes place

a gauge of your buyers or can get in as long as it's always a 2nd dialectic between oppression and resistance and resistance as where they also doesn't follow far from the tree, the resistance is very much kind of a mirror image of the occupation, except the resistance has to be. unfortunately, i would put it that way. read the violence us why the patient is a wholesale violence against the people. my one appreciate your insights. i want to move away from the historical context now and look at what's currently happening near militarily and let's pretend to out guess springing ref i out. your saw me who is a full my is riley intelligence officer in television and petrik view rate. who is a defense and security analyst and former british army captain. i'm going to start with us or raphael, i'm we've heard to not those, the most recent developments coming out of israel and from that connects,

it is an official declaration of war. what if any impact will that have on the conflict on the ground? and it was a get more power to the government and to the only the 2 it takes 3 major to soft to do have quick decisions to try to very hard to understand to what happens. and i'm happy to have an example of somebody just before me the on the screen to justify a raping and doing women and children, which is a very good thing because these kidding of children just raping the house. and then he's running to eventually understand who dealing with well, dealing with the infection. it's always function that we hope them to you in a few days ago that we could have made it and improve the way of life

of the people of gaza. i want to say very quickly and very from the beginning, i want to dissociate the other thing and people from those people who are texting is wrong in such a way the bodies in young people. we have no hatred for them and they have no history for us being as much to go by. i'm just going to use the whole story because you've just made quite a strong navigation in terms of the raping of women. i think we do need to clarify that as far as i'm aware, we haven't actually heard any confirmation that that is what's been happening on the ground. and as we've been reporting there been hundreds of civilian deaths on either side, perhaps before we go to our other guess moment i'll just get you to respond to raphael. if we can a look uh just in a very few. busy shoulder way, if one can be sold in such a tragic uh times. we know that how much have uh,

one very particular had a captive and that was get actually and is the soldier for a number of years. and then he was released and opinion on exchange. and what we know from get our attorneys himself, after he was released from captivity by how much in gaza. is it basically nothing much happened to him? i mean, as much as it is and got frustrated frustration, printer violence and goes out in the end of the day, they say the soldiers was held was released. and then as far as i could tell from interviews with him, he was, i mean, as he was before, he was a, uh, you know, a good thing to be kept as by have us. okay. i wanna move on. i wanna move on now. okay, sorry roughly i'll let you explain. i'll let you respond to it just to ask you a question. i do not want to go into this, the right of the base of who is the most no t, the jews or their buddies,

dns in the story on was refrigerate the most the truck to be seen as 0 the right? yes i was trying again, my question again is very simple. in what way do you think that this operation of doing it as civilians yesterday will improve the quality of life of the people? because uh, in what way do using these with advanced their bodies. daniel, because you were really but div that's by doing this, you're going to leverage by the starting and make buddies thing and people have wi fi. i mean, raphael, i'm the one that i excuse. oh yeah i'm, i'm the one that's gonna ask the questions here as much as i appreciate your opinions and i want to focus the whole point of this panel is to focus on the military situation at the more. and i think that we can go back and forward about this historical conflict for days and weeks. but what i want to focus on is the military conflict. and that's why i want to bring in patrick, we're hearing that the white house particularly to abide and has spoken to the

is riley prime minister. and as well newton yahoo has spoken to excuse me. the white house has spoken to me and i met in yahoo and he has said that additional assistance is riley defense forces is now on its way to is well, what do you think that looks like a good evening? i think the 1st thing would be intelligent suppor bucks to kind of offset so you can move quickly to get over the area is in question, try to give us a is around some more tobin from the us intelligence side. and that's usually the kind of thing that potentially with some high tech weapons, these res, obviously have a very and capable ours on themselves. so it was probably less of a, a, a, a requirement than just getting some extra in house. or in the 1st instance that they couldn't understand the picture because that being taken by surprise, i think as raphael said, there's an intense thing here which has been

a failure. they've misunderstood hamas. his intentions on that at the operational level of clarity. they've been taken by me by surprise, even though is history, kansas, you know, this holiday season, you should be more aware, more cautious than usual. and under the, obviously, the serious political repercussions of this, it looks like also an intelligence, potentially a policy funding there as well. yes, just on that point and i'll just stick with you for just a moment from a military perspective, how hard will it be for him off to maintain this level of conflict? now that we're hearing some of the superpowers a going to get involved. but i don't know that the supervisors getting involved might be an overstatement. this would be intelligence support, you know, snow boots on the ground or anything like that. it's kind of a thing you do with allies and partners of which is riley is to the united states. so i don't know what, listen i, the most interesting thing about this, from a military perspective obviously is the way that hamas are able to overcome in a coordinate attack of multiple targets, 5 or 6 in synchronize in time and using it for drones again. so you've got to

remember the board, is it basically a bit of a network? it's not just a bully, they've broken through and they've managed to disable the sensor is using drones and also not the time to using drones and seeing that in the brain more. and they've used a barrages of adult slide, the radians to buy missiles to get around a true iron down, overwhelm us. and then at the same time, using either gliders or just attack squads essentially cut through the wire and getting into some of the, even the army bases. i think it raises questions as to israel's military capability, which isn't a good little phrase. well, since it looked likes to be the same as the strong amount of incredibly capable in, in, not region. and potentially the, is it, you know, speaking to this on expert says across from our have they being to sort of rate and, and counter terrorism focused and maybe not expecting this. and so i think there's a, there's a lot of repercussions to come out of this for sure. raphael, what's your response to what patrick said, as a phone? my intelligence office. uh, how do you see the us support playing out well that. com in the form of

intelligence, and this will come into the form of intelligence as usual, and that it also comes into an, a g stick get support. we need more and more, a munition from the r and don't system. we have the between 2 and 3000 rockets that me sounds a being shot from guns out into as well. so we used a lot of our, i mean nation and usually the united states had passed the to have a more with and read more munitions. i don't think we do needs and the american army, i'm sure the jewel button does and wants to have a marriage in their troops, boots on the ground, and not even the fleeting, the limited journey. and so he told me to help in any way because the, let's or he gives a lot of us to very d to the come us is that the a guns. he's

a very densely populated area and he's very difficult to operate there. it doesn't matter if you bring the whole american army that's not going to change anything because we're talking about you or ben jerry le welfare, which is like from house to house, but the streets, the street in the very narrow uh, most of the time of the street that of course the inhabitants of does know very well and that the soldier coming in from the girls. it doesn't know that he's use a very, a tremendous advantage. and it always has been a gary the warfare as against the regular army. it's a very complete kits. the entry gets a situation, especially in government because of the density of the population. and because of the leader as of the, how much the hiding behind schools and hospitals makes it extremely difficult to all parents. it has to be very such surgical and very fast. and we have near a very big problem. that's why, uh, the idea of was

a void as long as possible to under. so these ground forces that will be as much as the pounding from the hilary and the falls. and that's why today we have asked the citizens of gas to leave the homes, to go to a beach to go to a field. but to if i could, the homes because well now these drawing, everything that needs to come out in the center or can we initiate communication center of the, from us. and these are usually show in buildings inside the city. okay, i'll, i'll just let my one respond because we're talking about the millet tremain of israel versus how much, how has, how much managed to acquire and a mass is huge amount of weaponry, especially rockets, even as it's under sage and given the sanctions to i'm sure i'm not going to give out different ways or secrets right now, but let's, let's put it this way. i have a, as where i need is the inventions. and because of that,

this imagery forces power between that is red and the kind of thing and functions have defined a scene. inspections have to resort to new creative way in order to confront these drugs in order to defend themselves. and these uh means tend to be the kind of things have to be seen uh the way they could uh, bypass the uh the is really was a security through by hair, by sea or digging these conklin tunnels. right. as it, it doesn't it in the past. so clearly they have gone from strategy to start the gym . they have tried to devise new intelligent, creative ways. some of them are across the country virtual. but be that as it may, as they need it to do that, because a significant, more for the week of party going up to face the stronger party a face to face,

you know, getting into something and workers over in this kind of as a symmetrical warfare. as these are the sounds, gaza by walk in certain biplanes and that certainly runs them not exactly targeted because you could never target anything by, you know, launching these sorts of rockets. it gives a populated area, but it said to people to go to the beaches on time to the under the fields when just, just as the we've heard, the vision is what, in fact the bombing the fields. so in gaza, a prison of 2 or 3000000 people, there is no where to go. the only way they can do it, in fact, is only when for that. and you can imagine how ridiculous that so okay, i want to move on to another issue. patrick, i'll address this question to your we know that there are an unknown number of is riley prism is that are being held by hum us the muscles used prisoners before like this in the past and managed to gain a lot in exchange. so how do you see them using these prisoners going forward,

particularly within the negotiations? so it just to actually pick up on one thing mom on the side. it's all correct in terms of, you know, being creative, innovative, adaptive farrell. so getting, i'm also getting a lot of help from the rain in revolution regards gordon. that point needs to be nice and it's fairly clear. so, and that would be training and weapon support. as to the hostages, the tops is essentially a, there is an insurance policy to try to slow down or deter a, a brand incursion. and also the air strikes to make a more complex in terms of that where they're going to hit. they want to make sure the idea for one to try to make sure that they're not going to bomb their own civilians are being held hostage. so it's essentially essentially a battery to tyrants under by a um, a slowing down of the ground defensive if it can work and not sense. and finally, then as you correctly identified as a, as a chip for bargaining chip and negotiations. but, you know, we're not in the negotiations phase here, but on the priority of, for the, for the,

for that was if that's where there to be used as ultimately as a bargaining chip with then the, the product engines and how much is taking them essentially have to ensure their safety don't they said that they're not kills resale. say we've already seen in the past hour or 2 heavy strikes, heavy bombardment on guys a c, c, raphael. do you think that we will say this conflict? turning to the ground. you think that the military will tend to offensive operations going forward in what form will that take? will that be boots on the ground entering the border is the it would be, it has to be there is no choice to finish the job. the boots on, on the ground because these started me, these, do we have this problem of the hostages that we want to spare? on the other hand, these hostages are the very last hostages. the home us with ever put their hands on, meaning the violence of these that talk is surprised that talk the cruelty of the

surprises of dart of achieve 2 things. you need to any 0. these readings was divided into the talk that it was political tales. it wasn't social control receive . everybody's now united from the talk to the bottom and everybody's united, even wanting to finish once and for all the from the, from us yesterday. by performing these a talk outside of his own, this warrant. it shall be destroyed. it is the last time they will have hostages. they might be sacrificed or they might be saved, but they are priority is to finish once and for all. and because of that there wouldn't be uh, boots on the ground. the advice that these given by most uh, the security person, the getting myself is to send these votes underground as late as possible and to destroy it from the air and from the generate that as much as possible. because as was rightly pointed once the, is there any truth,

spencer goes up there with stuff or lots of casualties. alright, raphael, my one. we already have a few minutes left of the program. i just, i guess i wanted to get your perspective as we talk about military and the politics were ultimately talking about people and we've had hundreds of casualties on both the is riley and on the gaza side. just a final thoughts from you stuff. it's hard to go right to the casual piece of indians on either side, on any side, but i think this very particular conference we need to go beyond the casualties because that's not what the leaders really think about. believe it or not, they're not as humane as the rest of us. i think here what we have is our major belonged to is there is strategy, policy, psychology, and so on, so forth. and why are the base rent is not how united and you know, because of that treasure the, i think soon enough that anyhow is going to be deposed because everything, all these failures happen under his wash. and why did this all happen?

and just very briefly, summarize 4000 use of history, the ancient greece and their students. but of that, anyone else? it's cool. it's for the papers. out of, out of guns, briggs, blindness, and stability. these right is what are they within $73.00. and they were looked up . no, they would have had a gun. so the 19 eighties and they were the blow by that if i use assistance and then again in how to go towards the front of signals and they were dug up. well yes it, it's tragic, but that doesn't what happens when hoover's is the, the point is right now there's certainly a link st historical context that we could spend a long time taking into account. we really appreciate all of our guests thoughts. unfortunately, we do have to leave it there, but we will continue our rolling coverage of the will between israel and gaza. and i'll just recap. there are more than $700.00 is riley cap casualties and almost $400.00 palestinians. stay with us. we'll have more news in just

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