list is riley action against a run will be met with a devastating respond square already facing a war between gaza and israel. and now we're getting threats like that your response. so the americans or american officials have been threatening iran as well . and i think that the americans know quite well that they've already bitten off more than they can to in ukraine, in east asia with china. the united states and its allies are on the decline. they, they're not the powers that be worth 3040 years ago. there's really, regime is in no position to threaten the run because it is right, the regime cannot even destroy the policy and people. but the united states, if it does something foolish, then it will be expelled from the region. the united states is very vulnerable and the price of fuel will go through the roof and it will destroy the western economies. and then you'll be seeing violence across europe and north america.

sorry we just have to kind of show they were running um, short of time. that was my husband brandy, the a professor rather from the university of ty ron. let's just take some live pictures out of guys are right now. and it's been more than 48 hours since a mass launched, a wave of rocket attacks and fighters stormed into israel and the deadly stay in 50 use. battles between these riley forces and have modified, has continued. we know there has been more than 500 attacks on guys a cd overnight, according to the is riley army. and there has been several more this morning, including wall with pain on and we know that more than 700 people has been killed. is riley's 700 is riley's, had been killed and close to 500 palestinians had been killed as we entered the 3rd day of this war, these riley forces. is it stress $500.00 targets in guns, or is

a nice, there is an unknown amount of is riley captives that are being held by homicide has a yesterday, the lebanese militant group has, but i also became involved. it was behind strikes on mount jobs, attractive land claimed by israel 11 on and syria. so plenty of moving pads to the story. we have correspondence across the region and will bring all the latest information to you as it comes to hand. what we do know is that it is day 3 of the school between gaza and is around 700 is wiley's the dead, almost 500 palestinians. i did. or i'm. that's it for this bulletin. as always, you can get the latest information on our website, l g 0 dot com. but from out state change to upfront in the general election and the referendum on the same day,

people in poland would vote on october 15th and make their choice on immigration. and national security conform of european council president don't tusk, gather enough support to mount the challenge? follow the poland elections on the jersey to. as the french government implements its latest ban on what students can or cannot wear and public schools portions have been raised on the reason behind that decision. while the government says the band is designed to protect secularism, critics of say to discriminate against muslim students. this was an affront will speak with french journalist and filmmaker required the olive with 1st as ever on september 19th, the military operation into newborn no kind of are resulting in tens of thousands of ethnic armenians being the territory. the enclave has been disputed for decades, and while it is internationally recognized as part of as every job. and so now it had been governed by ethnic armenians. so as, as every on guilty of ethnic cleansing is some of its predict suggests or sparkle just reclaiming its territory as it claims. and will the conflict in with the

bartow part of our, or is there a risk of further escalation will actually and bass that are on the republic of our service out in the united kingdom is we've headliner, elaine solely model the lean. so the model of bassett or the republic of his ever john to the united kingdom, want to thank you for joining me on upfront to thank you. thank you. my thank you for the invitation. as evan jones military operation into the garden. okay. kind of back into the territories led to a mass exodus of 100000 people or more almost the entire population of a territory. according to the un, high commissioner for refugees gives that statistic to us. this is now led to a humanitarian crisis among those who fled with many suffering from severe malnutrition. but yet a day after the incursion is edward johns president, it'll have idea of said his sources had, quote, punished the enemy,

who's the enemy here to that's a very good question. thank you my, the enemy, definitely. uh, the troops of the problem to provide me is stationed on the territory. they also brought to me that the, not the only, it was a bunch on the side, but also to the same desk of thousands of letting me in a residence. we lived there who brought us them into this conflict of i basically between the john and other media as cool and close the suffering. now they'll also are the enemies. also the people who let december, the city shame for a long time. and now the custody knows about john, who offered me that as tags, ballistic me, sales tax into the city and targets into the budget. but the people of ethnic, i mean in the background with oh, there's events the that not all in the me in fact that repeatedly as a budget has reached out to them, urging them to stay, offering them citizenship to become a part of diverse cultural as the budget, it is a function to so many left. we hope that some of them will come back. some of them have the option past, but some of them i mean in the past,

but so they may not come back. but uh, we do hope to have a normal life for most of the journey and it think, i mean it should be this. and also by the way, the same person who leads you in a show high commission for the features in the media. she also said that there was no credible set to mouth treatment of the people who were leaving. uh got it. okay, just so i think that the, let's talk about those civilians. you mentioned the people who have contributed to the suffering of civilians. it seems to me that the civilians are the ones who are the primary recipients of suffering in this situation over 80 percent have left a unit that says 30 percent of those arriving are minors in many have been separated from their families, especially representative of the world health organization says that new arrivals in armenia need, quote, urgent emergency assistance. given all of the suffering that this population has

experience now, it wasn't worth putting all of these people in such a dire emergency state for this military operation to. that's a, that's an excellent question to the people who are above this. i mean that the patients will always use this people as, as an excuse to cause suffering to others and to achieve their political goals listed back post 2nd. uh, why is the population of got a bunch of these, you know, as a bunch on these 100 percent, that means about duties and for the last 30 years is because it's the most engine was company to the ethics of please got about as the degree just had them. busy $1000000.00 as much on it and it goes into it all cleaned up. they've all flushed out in 1999 since i've worked with you and each so i was a witness to people arriving in the horrible condition. i mean, we do not want to do what that means have done to us. that's why we immediately offered them to stay focused on what's happening right now. it seems to me that there is a very clear practice of mistreatment here structurally that has to be accounted

for. i mean, there's this report that was released last year that stated that there is a wide spread state sponsored practice of racial discrimination employed by as that bridge on the authorities against ethnic armenians. this was just last year. president ali, i've been a speech is made references to armenians as dogs. how could i possibly believe? how can anyone past the question, was there, are you answers or how does, how possibly, are we supposed to believe that armenians are going to have their rights protected? how could it armenians themselves trust that their rights would be safe, guarded when the government is using language like this, and when they're such a demonstrative will examples of harm a well, let's, let's put things into perspective. but 1st of all, effects on the go. nobody called on me is dogs, the soldiers of acumen go by john and see it is changed out of the budget and also the patient tube. so what we say provides the nothing to do it again. when we look

at the direct report that was submitted to the human committee on the elimination of racial discrimination, it's also about a public discourse by public officials that has been seen as a sign and a symptom of racial discrimination. referring to our meetings as barbarians as vandals, as fast as the get. the report didn't just talk about troops, it was talking about a systematic state sponsored practice of racial discrimination against ethnic armenians. how do you respond to that report? again, not just an isolated case against the troops as you are legend, but against, oh yeah. either way to, by the way, the, and those are those, those are the thoughts by the way, about media, just give munition and language within. i mean, i guess as a by john, is this to caught, this is the big apple of the soviet union in the vote. and instead of very complicated, there was a mass that goes on the object. assuming is 1000000 people who kicked out of their homes. of course the, the situation is tense. we hear every day uh, validation is slowed. uh, yes, i was just wondering about jan's united media. i'm easiest foldable language

existed. again, let's see what would be, um, will be on the language and composition. i mean, he is having visit as a bunch of that data and coming to work that we have not ever caused the both of us say about john. do you feel that the language has been used by uh, by your country's authorities, not just the president, but other officials has made the situation more or less then? do you feel like these sections call them the situation or escalated it? let me say that it is uh, several days ago president i leave spoke very clearly. he said, we do not hold local. i mean, you population, but it's possible for the crimes committed by the san francisco edition. he said the, our citizen, just like everybody else. so i would suggest to look at the actions and also look at the also the due to a we offer, i mean is to the, to leave with our society to be a part of the, at bestbuy dot 85 or 2022. your government began blocking the launching core door. the only room connecting newborn are kind of back to armenia, which led to severe food medicine and fuel shortages. the former chief prosecutor

of the international criminal court, luis morning or compo initially said through the blockade, a quote, genocide is underway against 120000 armenians living in a garden or cut about. now he adds that the, that are, that are, is ever john's military operation. further as to the definition of a genocide, how do you respond to the former chief prosecutor of the international criminal court? the mug votes, joe sighed. i noticed that very heavy boats. let's not use them. uh like this is it, this is clearly not the general side. i mean, all right, why is it generally on an honest uh, every side or general side is what happened. and the general side is what happened in uh, so they need to hear you have a conflict uh with a separate this what i mean, just let me just uh, let me, let me pardon for moment for clarity here. but the definition of genocide is not to be like move on to the definition of the genocide under the rows that you is defined as x committed with attempt to destroy in whole or part

a national ethnical racial or religious group, including killing members of the group causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group, deliberately inflicting on the good conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction holder. in part, when we talk about cutting off, severely cutting off food medicine and fuel that seems to meet those conditions. so again, we don't have to compare another kind 1st. mister dickson offered a very clear debunk debunking of our accomplice exam. so i mean, this is a legal issue. it takes a long time. but my 2 things, the definition you describe that should be perfectly fits. what happened does that budgets are the hands of, i mean, is the complete destruction or our group and, or the moving as the budget is from the got a budget. what we offer, we offer from the very beginning to stay and to accommodate and to become a citizen and doing the good. you don't do that to go see one of the story. you don't sit down that you have the communications for 3 years to build a lot of supplies and infrastructure projects and supplies. she thing to go to

school is for the good which one of the so that's, that's, that's, that's completed. oh, no. on the, the watching result, the we did not will do it, you know, to establish, they've established a boat, the check board ever the silver and they shouldn't go to the boat to check, but we are very close with stokes. what if i have a boat on the boat of to get we have it both to check, but what they didn't want to do is to make sure that i did what that what's as it goes. somebody mean it was a by john on the. busy is a check because what happened that by the plan, you know, know, and i mean, he is admitted to that thing got about that the land of mice, which i suppose it's, i mean to sort of updated and weapons were coming in positive by john. that's what we wanted to prevent with the name of the preventive medicine. and by the way, it was always open for the medical to as it by i see, i see. and about 60 people eh, we look back in 1st my medical treatment. that's not genocide. this doesn't get much we want to live in peace. was that mean?

yes, we are neighbors in the same verbiage. and we have very much of like how old kinds of acquisitions. so i got dougald help. well was think peace between as a budget and i mean that's what we need to focus on. we won't lose that. so what are you sure i was waiting. so what are you waiting? 7 months to lift the blockade, despite a binding order from the international court of justice also does nothing to help matters that, that, that is actually misinterpretation of the order of icy j the or uh do or the i see the, the, i think they did say they made a ruling, the blockade quote, may have a serious detrimental impact on the health and live. i'm the going to kind of box population they border as that bizarre and to quote, take all measures to take all measures, edits, disposal, to ensure unimpeded movement of persons, vehicles and cargo. along the legend border in both directions, there was not unimpeded. the vehicles and cargo for 7 months? no, no much would be because because later, i mean, yes. i mean,

you're actually billed to the same quotes, demanding the removal of the boat, the post and the code refused to act on this. and the reason is because to think a boat, the post on the board to just do not state has any other nation, has it and able to install the initiative that, that putting a boat a check point is not. and it didn't go over the task. but it's actually a normal practice accepted by the whole, but we are no different from the rest of the vote. i mean is i'm not the only people have the patio de normally that's it. how do you account with a severe food medicine and fuel shortages? that's that's a very good question because the domino with which goes into the budget has been full with as a budget to actually offer the supplies to i mean using, got about and i mean, yeah, the set by just initial reviews and toner, visual basic smells. think about this much, you would not accept a medical supplies flow and how genius it was simply because it's gone. so people did with i missed the speaking of the show at indicated that's what it is. so what

the, what, what is the content? the road opened i did was only opened up to the end of the position because i mean the operation, but just the clear because out of what the, what is to somehow think that this role was open and open on august 31st 8 months after the blockade began because a we also, we also to open a much earlier the refusal gave them that means that they even put a bit on a concrete blocks that styles think about this in other way as well. uh, the moment the position ended, all the supplies went from the you do not supply people was all the needs the moment if you did a commenting something instead of both of them, we, by the way, we talk to our meetings and he got about we talked to them all along different meetings, on the delegations, and it shows your opinion, was that other protests active? so i, i think in the way, you know, way all of this negativity,

which created the mode. and it is possible statements by people like a couple have created the tool link is the position in among the population of ethnic. i'm using data, but unfortunately many of them live it's to, we never urge them to live quite the opposite of the state. we never, we never wanted them to live. we actually, i was there, but john is open. we have an integration photo asking them to come and it is just the come back. fair enough miss as to the amount of i want to thank you so much for your time and joining in upfront a my pleasure. thank you. the it has been a turbulent summer for france in june. police shot dead a 17 year old french boy, a moroccan, and now during the cent. now his modest soup, inciting mass rides across the nation. a couple of months later, the french government announced that it would be placing a national battle wearing the eye by a, a full length robots and one by most of the women in public schools causing fury among the muslim community. so is the slightest span of defense of secularism as

the government claims or will it lead to more racial and religious discrimination discuss these developments were joined by french journalist in filmmaker required the yellow thank you so much for joining upfront. it's good to see you for inviting me. i'm really glad to. absolutely, let's. let's start with what's going on on the ground. frances education administer gabriella town called wearing the eye by a quote, a religious gesture aimed at testing the resistance of the republic toward the secular sanctuary. that school must be. this was a very controversial decision. can you tell us about their kind of reasons and the timing for this decision? so to me they're out and the official reason and an actual reason. so initially the principle of security reason in france was meant to be a principle of equality. and over the like because it's being a principal for a bishan target to most friends and to move has to do with a long history of colonial control of women's buddies. we can tie it back to the or

calling it is a right now, jerry, whether it was and feeling ceremonies that's were organized by the wives of the colonial generals to invade publicly as human women to make them seem and actually look frontier. so actually one bell and literally taking their video of it all like the posters, are seeing on 2 more beautiful without the video. and it was something that was going on in the late fifties. so the idea that you all center, if you look like the traditional french swimming is something that didn't really appear on the the summer. but you say that the origin of this, at least the spirit of the law, wasn't that of course it was to get rid of the influenza slow spring in strength of the catholic church. it was to do was voted in 19 o 5 and it was meant to separate the states from the church and to have the states being useful and no to because magazine officially any religion. so a little was voted 20 years ago to bon public science,

religious public signs in school. so the law says public um we did just from the signs, but the debate was over the huge job. so the agent was bon 20 years ago, and that now wants to go further and further. and the thing is that you can tell apart and the buy a from address. so how would you enter that, what you're gonna buy it, and what to address that they would say, well, clearly the buy, it is a visibly religious of us. at least the associated garment that when you see it, i buy a, you know that that person is most them. but what we've seen in schools is that's many girls had dressy that they bought in h. and then is that right? it's one of the actual, the bias, but that was in that were interpreted as a by, as, and they were buying some school because of that. and the only reason why it was t and avaya is because they were wearing ours again, all right, from a natural enough african origin or black. so is like, you can have both, like 2 went to girls having the same dresses, but one is white and the other is not. and one would be a scene as we're going to buy it and the other. so it's really enabling racial

profiling. and that's what happens after the return to school, according to one pulled by the french institute on public opinion. 81 percent of french people support the band. other polls show interestingly enough, that it's not just right wing support here. in fact, the majority of 2 of frances left wing party supporters, the greens and fronts, and so nice, also support this band in large numbers. now your base and france, of course, the mass support. where's it coming from? again, not just right wing support, but it's a lot. yeah. i basically like the largest part of the population. i think it's both the result of a it is on these levels will be perfect and that has been going on for 4 years for the kids like the had been the bon of on the he's up and then the bottom of the beginning like the full length uh, swim suits, uh in the, in the cheese and that has actually used the public opinion to just accept the fact

that, um, mostly men does have a right to enjoy the, for the space. and if to me important to remind the friend that during the last business, the presidential election last year, the national valley, which is the far right apache, maybe to the 2nd round, is the state guns. political force in friends asked you to presidential election during the payment to re election the had a to 9 and peace elective international assembly, which is a lot we, we have never seen that in history so far. right? is being mobilized and the government is running after a that's the, the, the, the, the, the, the votes of the people who believe in the, as in those ideas. and to me, the normalization office har arise has made the principal pollution more easier to accept or resist ideologies. many countries talk about color blindness. mm hm. uh. but france, literally, ca, defies this idea of color blind is by not even collecting data on race demographics

. it's like, race just doesn't exist as i say. and how does that play out in everyday life? how does that impact minorities? how does that impact social services? how does that shape how we think or respond to what's going on? so i understand that the color blindness is a very beautiful idea. can you provide isn't. and i understand why it's difficult in friends to collect data because of the holocaust. because like the last time the government collected data, it was meant to deport and exterminate thousands of uh, 1000 us like hundreds of thousands of people who would choose were sent to the camps uh the concert concentration cam. so i understand why we us to not comfortable with the government having and collect for today does. but the consequence of that is that the people from the national assembly have voted to remove the word race from the constitution is like because they say that it doesn't exist as in biology. what, what i get, but it does exist as

a social contract construct. and it does have, as effect on all day to day life. so the consequence of that is that it's very difficult to speak about the race in france. i use so, and i'm constantly accuse of importing an american lens onto friends. and as creating something that doesn't exist, so that's especially them to me. critically give it in places a is a social construct. me say it's not food in biology, that's an american, then it would be just as not real. and in the united states, right. do they actually not see the value in thinking or looking for racial means at all? no, i would say that it's racist because we are the same. so i'm the one bringing up a topic that is that doesn't belong to friends. and to me, it's a way of just not addressing a problem because friends has been sometimes several times by the european court of human rights. it's been on the subject, the topic of free posts from i'm this international from human rights, which because of racial prof, provide

a parties were fighting and racial police society but, but there was no response. there was no official response from the franchise because not addressing ways being color blind is also a way to get away with racism because you say it doesn't exist. so you don't do anything, even if they all just look to say all the people getting a press, all the people getting treated for the schools, all the people getting shot by the police and basically all of this way. and that, that way as coincidence. yes. and you speak about race in this course, he's ways to see when you're not, can you the pick whatever reason to learn about? yeah, it's just a racist, but you say, no, it's our tradition. it's like you're no reason. it's not. you know, it's up for most names, it's anyone who would have a video to sign, but it's happens that's only mostly have very visible video to sign and actually, um yeah that's, that's the, that's the way of speaking about, about the race without really speaking about it as you pointed out, many in france, look at the work of intellectuals like yourself, and they say you're importing american or anglo saxon identity politics that don't

actually exist in france present. my cronies even echoed this idea. in 2020 he won . the french intellectuals have yielded to quote, anglo saxon traditions based on a different history, a history that he claims is not ours. how do you respond to this? as i said, as of funds for i know who inspired uh, black americans was french and uh, that front is the only country to be present on 4 continents. so you have the, you are friends, part of friends, but you also have to tie bend territories, guadalupe, not to nick, but also some thoughts indian gen ocean which is the reading island and my yet also some fox into french for a new job. 80. you kind of doing, yeah, so that is the result of fast and truman colonial putting 6. and i think that i try to to, to, to quote a french examples and to be inspired by french intellectuals because those people

are friends of one. so i know, for example, are it's known in nor did by different beaks, fear that if you go to friends and you have a place that would come in moray, they'll set up with someone who fought against racism. you would find a transportation named after was a pox you would find a pop named after him by the end of the king. you will never find someone french having a place ordering their work against racism. so that's also another way to say, yes, it's a problem that's, that we care about, but it's an american program. so we would buy that on there. uh, you know, not sending data. who is the south african or mountain? it's a king then, you know, from something new or in this is that even the image image is there, as recently had finally a metro station. but it's still very, very, it's taking a long time. okay, i do. hello. thanks so much for joining that upfront. thank you so much. all right, everybody, that is our show upfront. we'll be back next week the

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