muslims were observing ramadan and jews with celebrating young caper, egypt and syria launched a surprise war against powdered his ro permit itself to get into this situation of disaster. in the 1st of a 3 part series outages, era explores what really happened during the 1st week of the war in october, which is here. israel declares war on how much sand porter is a total siege of guys that with no food or electricity. after an unprecedented attack by the policy and onto these are the prime minister, has vowed to destroy a mouse as capabilities, but at what cost and is the risk, the war could spit over to the region. this is inside story, the

hello and welcome to the program. i'm for the back. people is rouse, defense administer has ordered a complete siege of gaza. he says, palestinians in the enclave will soon have no access to electricity, food, or fuel. the territory has been under non stop bombardment in hundreds of palestinians and israelis has been killed since i'm off site is managed to infiltrate the southern areas of israel on saturday. a mouse is the attack is a response to more than 70 years of occupation and a 15 year blockade of gossip. israel has responded by formerly declaring war, it's the most serious escalation in decades. but why exactly did this new war start and where does it go from here? plenty to discuss with, i guess. but for us, this report from sy gail on the events of the past few days. in the early hours of october 7th, a mass mulch dozens of rockets from garza into southern israel. the attack has been

called unprecedented operation. let me, yeah. and then i do say that the outcome of this baffled is not yet revealed to the enemy. these radio occupation forces have yet to learn how massive this operation is. once they realize the severity and outcome of it, they will regret it. to our brave fight is across the occupied territories. you've proven that you have the resolve. this is your day to march forward. by october 8, has blood joined. the will. a senior official says his bite is will continue to support the palestinians. the history or the guns and the order work itself with you. everything we have is with you is re prime minister benjamin netanyahu has vowed to win the will warning gauze and residents to lead that have more to how much we still do all of the places which commerce is deployed,

hiding and operating in the, in that wicked city, i mean we will turn it into an island of ruins. i'm telling causes people to leave those places now, because we will take action every what. as october 8 came to a close, the people of garza had suffered that deadly state in 15 years. is ready as strikes, hit, the besieged and plays from all sides, killing nearly 300 palestinians. we are banging the brunt of this attack. we have been witnessing mumblings and residential buildings. every 5 minutes of the explosions are rocking every place and goes up. that's all you did now and no place is safe. yeah, i wish i could be a normal child living with no more, no rockets so that we can return home safely. hundreds of israelis have also being killed. and it's thought that at least $100.00 have been captured and taken into gaza as the coming of toby days and fold. it's unclear how and when this will my to

end. but the loss of innocent civilian life would like to continue. sorry gale the inside story. the as well as bringing our guest for today's inside story in ramallah and the occupied westbank is mustafah vancho. the secretary general of the palestinian national initiative in boston is rami cory also and distinguished public policy fellow at the american university of bay road. and in london, daniel levy, president of the us middle east project. he's also formalize ready negotiator and advisor to the office. so former israeli prime minister a who to per ok. thank you all for being on inside story mr. most stuff about go to in run my life. i can start with you. there's a lot of concern right now about what might come next after the surprise attack by hamas. israel has said they'll be no food, no water,

no electricity to guys. because of this attack, how worried are you about? what might come next? we had absolutely what it and what you have just described to talk, no electricity. and also applies means that nothing you know is going back to think of an act of total collective punishment against the palestinian population of guessing i guess $2200000.00 people. but most of them that this, such as the government, the news that i learned in the system using the word fascist, is directed inc, ethnic cleansing goes to a point. 2000000 people. how close nothing, you know, 10 to point 2000000 people living in garza. a very small area of no more than 100. 40 square miles that this would leave that homes. where should they go to? he wants to throw them in the sea. where should these people go? there is no safe place of this very moment in guys, a much record is taking place. no less than $570.00 by this thing is that being

tenants or 5 uh mostly um, probably 100 percent civilians including more than 100 children. and this wouldn't good to know. nathaniel, how promises that he would have been bought every house in augusta. how could zillow accept this? i must remind you of that. 70 percent of the people of guys that today of the 2200000 people out of if you choose what ethnically class from the 1948 by the is there any troops now they want to it's nearly cleansed them one more time. the basic question here, why do it, why we are in this? mainly because it is if use this to and this occupation, mainly because there's an establishment that includes the end, it's in a slave for many of the front us too many people in our system of apartheid that is much worse according to or the human rights organization. then the prototype system

that prevents in south africa at one point of the time. this is a situation that nobody can pull it up and nobody should deliberate and instead of the united states force and because it had to stop these muster cuz they are encouraging them at that quote on the student will come back to the us role in all this in just a moment, but i want to bring in daniel, leading to the conversation daniel. these relays are saying right now that this is a response to how mazda is brazen attack on israel a few days ago, which so hundreds of israelis killed as well. but how is that a siege of guys a complete seizure of guys with no food or water to palestinians, which mr. by go to? riley describe, described as collective punishment. how is that going to insure a security, the security of israel? very simply. it isn't very sadly in the hot breaking pictures once hop brakes to see what has happened to me on

a bunch friends to see what is happening now in gaza. remote playing ball transpire over the coming days. but the sad truth is that that position is styles by these re issue is precisely what and so it means they have lost no. i know that these are the most difficult days to to those sort of thinking to, to be different. but a 3 didn't beginning 3 days ago and stop by our booth. he just pointed out who, who all these to point to be in. inhabitants of golf while 70 percent of refugees until palestinians have security is rated axle shift black to use the equation back to use the intertwined face of these 2 peoples. i need israel fix that there is a military solution. then we all condemned to really think this kind of

conversation again and again and again. but i hope this maybe poly amish. people will begin to austin. so it's, is this the only way every day, palestinians live without the most basic security predictability of life is res woke up, twitch for me on the weekend, but they have to stop getting it today. it's the palestinians are going to be denied enough space to quest. you know, you have a very critical designation. the kind of a pop type is being created in terms of the as well as the allison use. that's the reality which palestinians then across geography, across the history, the people who live on to those conditions before i'll have to use a close to them,

take up on the resistance and okay, you know, the most frustrating thing today for the if i may just $11.00 additional comment, the most frustrating, painful way of being wanting policy makers for years, but it's every non violent avenue is closed. if you're not gonna hold these rarely accounts. but if you're not going to challenge as well, to change its policies to you and not the i c c to sanctions with how you sell your weapons, that you are leaving only one outlet for change. i'm worth what they rami corey, your thoughts about what daniel and stuff about go to you have said, what is your reaction to this evolving situation and what do you think and let us, let us to this points today. but i totally agree with that stuff. i'm down, you know, as usual, i'm fine with that one more dimension. i'm but what i'm saying virginia boston in

the united states is going back and forth to the players and watching the events from here for the last couple of years as clarified certain issues that i think are really important. and they let the span of time to the palestinians. i've suffered in the way that most of i'm gonna describe is 5070 years since since 1948. but it really goes back further about what happened was the british started in 1915. the colonial process of, of stealing thorsten here giving up to the zionist movement, which was a very long to make a pain, but just show from europe. because after some additional problems, this started the process in which designers of jewish people is real. whenever had primacy in this loud a continues. today i hear from the west, we see the united states something and they will task force. now prepare to

the fighting if need be, or how as you know. so the mental, the law, which is of the, is really designers movement has never acknowledged the palestinians. and israelis equal rights. that is the found, the monkey like we have any knowledge that cost and the address to recognize it and documents and agreements and directions. but they is rarely is that i have not. so they, they think excellent. how soon is now is about 10 years longer than the ancient exile, hebrews, and these are people side. but before i come back to most stuff, i just wanted to pick up on something you said rami about the americans, and they had deploying americans deploying in the mediterranean. it's not just sending arms to israel as they usually do, but a deployment in there was to contain the situation, but that's going, is it going to contain the situation or is it inflaming?

it's more a lot of the martian perspective. that because that for me, yes, the shot of a boat, they might, she perspective this is designed to some of the signals israel that we're with you . if you need assistance where they're mostly in terms of supply some justice and stuff. but it's also from the mac and you a 2nd story around the american media and political establishing is totally obsessed with the law. iran and china are now the stretch of the world and they will do anything to say, oh, that's right. and it's just, it's really a demonstration of almost mass hysteria and we see it played on the media and politics. and by the way, the media coverage in the united states also reflect something really, really kind of life. i want to find during listen to the united states on the impression journalists and schools, right,

that when new streaming media is coloring, this situation, if that was just against the standards or talking to american drivers in schools, they would get an ass. there would be some. okay okay, let me come back to mr. bond, go t. uh, on the question of the round up session that rami raised to some use reports that suggested that how mosque couldn't have pull this on his own. couldn't have done this on his own and that it had outside help. what are your thoughts about this? and why should the time i was good talent for my new country? is that it is a good thing the most held from the united states, which is providing because of the most sophisticated military equipment and discovery up photos that i enjoyed having to 100 new glad heads. you will be on credit. that is not a simple thing because of the united states. it's important because, or is that i,

it has uh, an amazing network of support all over the world. so why shouldn't come as good try to get some books from somebody else? i think it's a, it's a very unreasonable question. you expect this you do you expect this support from, from outside countries, tomas to continue in to become more visible? you know, let me explain any of the 2 issues. first of all, but the thing is i have not 3 lines but i need but the, the big question, the big lesson, the wheeler and especially after the normalization of a lot of companies will do that or is that we should only depend on our so we should be sensitive, i and we should desist with our own abilities and that's exactly what's happening today. but on the other hand that you saw fit on is the usually or is as it is, reminds us with the, the is the behavior in order was they all of us try to find a conflict to blame and gland up. but this thing is out the photos of the company.

first it was the soviet union. and then it was egypt and it was syria. then it was it. i can, i would see it on and maybe tomorrow it would be i was going to be john. i don't know, but the reality is that, and the other aspect of this is that they say that they would make peace with solid data of you and would behave and whose damage to lift the glass on it was through this, this event in this new or my put that on hold. don't you think the normalization with the seller? mostly. yes, absolutely. of course. and now actually one of the reasons of what's happening today is that 1st instance, that data goes as being montana lies and nothing you know, and as far as going to the united nations and getting the map of israel, including next westbank, next gaza and next the golan heights, as well as intruders on him. so the message was clear. i've not been here on smoking. it said that no place for about a student, steve. so what do we live in? a stand up as the duration of enslavement. let me ask you why by which no,

and the old account to be like, is it a which is ok? buying costs declaring war on. i'll talk to by 33. it's amazing that this was allowed to happen. nothing at home, in my opinion, is a criminal. he is a need to do anything to save himself. he is really talking about a studios and there's other areas. i know that he's thinking now that is of getting, is there any present? noticed a lot in as of right, why is he doing good? he doesn't care about the people he cares about himself, about saving himself. this is the most opportunistic criminal lead the ever. and the me that is daniel daniel levy. let me get your thoughts on that, on the end game here for that, you know, and this is really guffman. i know you were on the inside, but with the previous government. but you might help us understand what the thinking is right now in israel. what is the end game, you know, with this new conflict in guys that is it to reoccupied guys that oh is it more than that? you don't permission for the if i may just comment on

a couple of points raised because i think the other thing that these events remind us is that the abraham accords in the normalization took some stuff. i just reference. this is not my to piece in the lease because this is not between war and policies. this is law i. brittany americans are told themselves and told them, well, i think it's appropriate when get caught up in your lice because you lewis, i called you lose touch with reality. the normalization of course, don't address what the problem is. they addressed something else altogether. now i think nothing y'all, it was probably saying to himself, i do something spectacular. i get through this military thoughts. but each round his face. yeah. well we'll see is

a staggering face. about 10 towns of intelligence and all the military. i might think it would be a mistake if i may just suggest that that's the problem is not that yahoo, he's government has been focused on the judicial logo. ready you know, people remember that with these, we protest against what they were doing legislatively. but the problem is that they've been focus too much on the sectors in the west side. and they haven't paid enough attention to calling this narrative exists in israel. i think that's the easy go to place, but it ignores what i think is a bomb or fundamental malays decomposition within the system. because these rel felton here are these, these routes found the palestinians. we got them back easy to manage the world with . let us do whatever we want, the palestinians say that needs to be taken seriously. we should put in. there are periods of quiet we can for those away by just doing all was never trying to take

any political initiative because they don't even recognize the cool one problem here at policy and dispossession. and so the dc missions, there's hubris, makes it as well. so we got the most amazing surveillance systems and they don't pay attention, but actually in a symmetric wolf that you don't need to go to, to talk with your assessor, you need to be able to do all the states. and america here is the greatest empower enable, all that hubris. because america tells israel we have your back. now when america goes, looking for opportunities to demonstrate the issue, bridge trips, it's all when it expands all the countries sticking to wait for $35.00. how the surrounded by next to kind of durham was when he's reading don't using this kind of hubris. it has a next, a central problem, and i tend to think in the days of occupation deluxe may be over. okay,

let's spring. uh, run me in on that. run me. do you agree? do you agree with what daniel just described that he thinks the days of occupation may be coming to an end as a result of this attack and the and so in going cost? yes, i think it's becoming clear that the dimensions of the nature of the 70 meaning what kind of this has just continues to do. there are still pockets. and so i've sort of issue where findings going on the consequences of this enormous, we won't really see them after some days or weeks, but this doesn't here the uh, the, the nature of the palestinian government, you know, 70 has been shattered. the nature of is rarely a doctrine of military force and mowing the grass and starving palestinians that has to come to an end because this backfire the work, the nature,

the idea of is really superior. artie and vince ability has been shattered by the way uh to adjust to the american urban police forces were still living through is really police trying to think twice i haven't seen was just stopping now and the nature of the american western british and other support for israel and anything it wants to do for me is blocking the i c. c. investigation. that in the change that has to happen is the, the invisibility and powerlessness and lower ability and the synergy and suffering of sending people since 1915 of the hands of british supported on the later american support. as i go on, it was a that has to change into a situational kind of go piece, where the people of israel and the state of israel, the palestinians of their peace. oh, the ceramic, safe,

all with equal rights. we've made this off of the writers of repeatedly mega sort of allison is assigned back to a thomas simon agreed to go outside when he entered into negotiations. that's the actions due to ality and visibility is that that was the newsletter. i need to ask you this because you talked about this a little while ago. the question of normalization. how is this going to play out originally? in the next few weeks, of course, because we have had some our countries that are established relations with israel, the u. e, for example, the biggest country in the region. saudi arabia was reported me on a path to normalize relations with israel. that as we said, might now be on hold. but where does this leave the other countries in the region of these are the, the palestinian issue in the palestinian people where you look at about countries, you have to look at leaders and you have to look at people, have the leaders do with who are staying power to make money to an end with job

and versus what they continue to do. and the people of the region, not just the people around turkey or other people of the world. if you look all over the world public opinion support equal rights for protest in the 100 pounds is renter's we're not talking about certainly, as rarely is a lease we're talking about. living with is rarely as often as you were totally equal rights and resolving the cost down refugee issue, which was the beginning of the core of this problem. so the normalization things start to go on. a pretty meaningless be on some stock exchange price increases for companies owned by people in leadership positions on this on the north america. so i'm going to are not to worry too much about it because sources of what i'm asked of the implications that we will see coming out of popular support for what culturally my translate into

a new political arrangement. and the reason that it does recognize the people at your cost in general is that force solutions mass support the will still over into the leaderships. okay. mister, most half a bar go to let me come to you know and ask you about a points by me raise. they said that this is these events of the past few days will no doubt change the nature of palestinian governments. now interesting the we've hired very little from the policy and a source heat in the last few days. why is that? because uh they have had that on the line um the marginalized now and visit. i had also made sure somebody generalized them as much as possible and they look and learn of them. and the, the i have now i have to cross it on the visual and did people on support of that? i the thing is, so it is just and the engage an action that would lead to unit deal, but this demands around a little bit almost struggling for our rights or they wouldn't be much in the life

completely. and. busy i think what we need now is that, or that was for me that you need to government. what do we need now is that unified leadership was ordered by the students to go to that. but a student also didn't different what the site not going to be so good. it's a good it to go to the nation with diesel fuel viruses. but also they should put that aside at the in depth of the vision would come us and accept that we are all in one unit, 5, need to ship and put it back to the ground for the democratic for the elections. i'm the people choose the new that should be one. i was going to make one more comment. go ahead, daniel. i think it's important to point out for you to, as we're talking with seeing the europeans and all those. great me to cancel that 8 to the palestinians and i think it's only in that context for people to realize that the west on these question is during itself such as this of this if it wants to be taken seriously as

a normal to back to the not the space is talks about international talks about the role is low. ready or no big question, it's not the rest of the world supports the specific action this weekend. i think when you see the images, you recoil from that just as your shot. what is happening to the civilians in gaza . but if you're going to uphold international law, if you're going to claim that mantle you do is consistent, no means you cannot indulge isabel's violations every day of international. you cannot indulge some more for nothing. yahoo is just promised to commit in gaza. you call have it both ways. and you cannot pretend that you are indifferent to be indifferent to what has happened to the palestinians the day off today. you're off the decade off the deck. thank you so much. thank you. oh, to all 3 of you for

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