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so the unflinching question is war with lowanda, imminent rigorous debate. people are dying because of lots of medical treatments. black lives don't really matter. and the police will join me, mark them on hill upfront without a 0. the united states has been israel, the strongest by kind of in the war on god. your union and united kingdom have also voice political support. has more palestinians are killed on the humanitarian situation. lessons. what of russia, china and india stuff. this is inside store the
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hello and welcome to the program and the the world is watching events in gaza, but from different standpoints. washington has promised it's on wavering backing to israel and a sudden military equipment to support the bombarding of gaza. and it's 2300000 people the use as it stands in solidarity with israel after what it calls the heinous crimes, by how much government that killed at least 1300 people, unless more than 3000 injured. but that's been little international pressure on israel to rein in. it's a tax on palestinians. what about of the world powers wants that sounds? and do they have a role to play? we'll be discussing this with, i guess in a few moments. but 1st, this report from lower con, the, the will in garza, his who do i world opinion, strong support for israel in the west, but a different picture elsewhere. china has called for
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a strange and says the root cause of historical injustice as the palestinians needs to be addressed. but it's treading a fine line are facing, has consistently supported the policy and cause. but since establishing domestic relations in 1992 is running, china have developed close ties, particularly minute trained development technology policy and authority president. would i pass the sit beijing in june and china promised to work towards resolving the conflict with israel. it's becoming more involved in the middle east. brooke ring a deal between saudi arabia and rom to re establish relations in march. russia to have a complex relationship with both israel and palestine. many as radius have russian heritage, but like china, russia has stress the need for his radio occupation to be addressed. on monday is prevented the un security council from agreeing on
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a statement to condemn him us. a day later president vladimir putin played to say of us policy, the belief there's really news. on the contrary, it promoted its own ideas about how this should be done. put pressure on both sides 1st on one side, then on the other, every time without taking into account the fundamental interests of the palestinian people in india have the light itself with israel prime minister and render moody post on social media. the country stood in solidarity with israel at this difficult hour. in 2017 moody became the 1st indian prime minister to visit israel, but not to go to palestine. the 2 have only had diplomatic ties since 1992 bought the build a strategic relationship. india has become the biggest buyer this way, the weapons, despite historically supposing the palestinians, the governing brought the janelle to potty is supporting israel. but on the 1st day,
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the indian ministry of external affairs said india is reiterating. it's cool for an independent palestinian state. so on the leading stick in the opposition, congress policy has condemned thomas, but targeting civilians but attacked is ready policy. at the heart of the conflict, there was a larger issue, a stake here, and the reason behind all of this, which is that there is a dehumanizing occupation continuing in many places the people of gaza have felt imprisoned. and that's true for a long time. the people of westbank have a war which is interfering with their, with their normal freedom of movement and, and conditions of life. the 2 state solution unites all 3 major powers as full rages in goals of laura icons inside story. i'll just there are let's bring in august in moscow pedal file going to how as an independent russian foreign policy analyst and badging were joined by i know tongue going to senior
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fellow, the tight institute a chinese same tongue and an up saw a sweden is shock swain a professor at the department of peace and conflict research at up sala university . i will welcome to you will probably let me stop with you brought him at boots in um benjamin netanyahu, russia and his right was supposed to be friends. but there's been no phone call from the kremlin this week, no message of condolence why as well actually today. and that's not my bill for the the comment of the rest of the commonwealth of independent states. in this case, the carrier gives a portion said that in announced that israel has been the victim of a terrorist attack. it has the right for so the fact at the same time reach, arranging, the pressure wants to cease fire for all sides to go show restraint. and the
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pressure supports the tuesday to check with the palestinian stage capital and it is yours. so uh, so interruption position is kind of slow right now around there balance that i would say. and though yes, there was no phone call to hold, but still the 2 are rushing right now. there's not one to go and become a one to really criticize a israel. at least a criminal does not force. it should be understood that there are different attractions in the restroom. leadership and the restroom, a practice and there are embedded pro arab bank. the is really and the end to do it, share of it say fractions. but there are no sort of support israel. and there are problems in jews and present the them tends to be that he is a kind of now to be a friend of the jewish people. sort of the was not seen as amended. america
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is but this. but what into israel of expected, most of overbooked support from the crowd of man, after all, israel didn't join sanctions against the rush or after the invasion of ukraine. israel hasn't got much bought from the kremlin this week. it seems the same thing, but they're not, those are getting any kind of right now. russian pushed back to so maybe the foreign ministry is a bit more pro arab, i would say. but again, to the establishment in the foreign ministry in the russian military establishment . the belgian services to be a kind of pro error there still connections that were found during the cold war. but there are there other fractions outside the crowd when the result is or finds the islands position. i think there is really,
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i was fact the bed rushes my on the which has military forces. decor nearby in syria is not right. is that right now in the rather balanced, neutral position or i, i know in badging, china hasn't directly criticized how mostly suite, the foreign minister, one use of the why, right way to resolve the conflict is to advance the 2 state solution and resume peace talks. but he must know that's not going to happen in the near future. why is china treading carefully treading carefully because you have a situation where people are trying to create this false dichotomy that it's either one way or the other way that you're either stand with the palestinians or you stand with israel. china is trying to stand with the people, they do not want more depths. the tragic loss of life that was happening before the thomas attack,
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the tragic loss of life during it. and now we have even more trash. it is not doing well. i mean, already we've, there was an attack here in beijing. a jewish of the embassy official was attacked in broad daylight. i mean, what you have here is a chain reaction of hatred and deaf that is following round. it is time stop that cycle to state solution. everybody knows that. that's the only way out. and unfortunately, no one wants to admit it. now everyone's rushing to say, i'm with this, this guy or that guy right now. there are only villains and victims, no heroes. so just trying to see that it might have some sort of a mediation role after it success pops with saudi arabia and iran, those china just trying to see that. well, i think you make a mistake of inferring that the, you know, the chinese take on this same role that the west of the, you know, china, this is not a political play thing for a domestic audiences. china, if anything,
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more than happy to be a part of any peaceful resolution, they'd be happy, happy you west of russia, anybody who could stop fish carnage. you have uh, 2000000 people there. i'm 1000000 children. how is this going to work? all right. it could be adding more tragedy. it's incredible to me that we're creating a chain, the children that live who live to this bombardment, right? what's gonna happen to them? how easily will they be radicalized? this is an ongoing chain of situ situation, and instead of having responsible governments saying, look, everyone that needs to come down, we need to start talking instead of throwing bullets and bonds at each other. and you're not hearing that. it's just all about taking sides. a shock uh the government in india has been more vocal linux support, solve is rouse now the render motorcycle, we stand in solidarity with israel, but this is from the country that was the 1st non our country to recognize the p l
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. o. and then the states of the palestinian state. what is changed in india with moody? i think i do. we all know that the more the and the handle and that's my list are government. so we all the way is one 3rd or has been pretty smalley. i've been closer to the is a while uh, of course, but at least once it is quite warm despite india is simply a ma recognizes the bottom of the bed ball went on from the different categories on the 90 the ninety's. but what has happened here? i think he, with their mouth quite strongly saying about the india is with this morale even described almost as if they're already started and i use them the indian lot doesn't really look at that way. but i think then that went on like this because the reason is exactly the all i'm fine. most of the bodies let me pull that ideas.
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we spend the present government pods and bodies. one thing which we should really route about most of them to be closer to ease rather, and also they have very strong military or secured or less sunset now with these, right? so or saying that i think what happened now that it has been of course, a very strong bully or premium. it's not a one or 200000000 muslims don't. don't live in india, but also lots of strength of legal opinion. isn't fair model for ottawa, i'm assuming because i think that has all of a sudden now they have the allies and they have made a statement because the ministry has come up with a statement which is making a balance to be that they've done what they need or what more they need in the beginning. so this is the, is the sign of a 10 by mode as i have a more. so that's a foreign policy. it was so far, uh, for a ministry trying to draw about baki and again then that's right. they have tried to make it sound like they are worried about what is going to happen and they also
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need to do that. but they, they are improvement on the state solution. they are trying to say that, look what is what is happening. we are what it about, but he made them use, it was even got the doctor was missing completely in the beginning and i think it has come basically, as i said, because of the pressure from the public opinion. and also they utilize that. the indian history is india is just to become independent of 78 us, but they don't have that kind of uh, when you're funding a colonial box, which they understand very well the public very what is that what that's happening and by this time? so i think that was really bump bump or what? because it's us on the whole. now they have gone, not this by them. stop brooch bumper, but really i'm fine ministry. just the dilute. what more do you have said before? okay, a couple of a back to russia is russia worried about iran and one of the things given that now
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it's one of the primary supplies of alms to rush here, as it continues as more in ukraine. of course, your brain is the right now main focus going. the whole russian policy isn't turned on extra or and iran has been supported this bit and there's the increasingly close ties between moscow. abdur rahman rush show up not want to really get to on the wrong side of the the radians. so yes, them says russian policies in the middle east will be rational tread very, very carefully. not the worst and relations with israel, not the worst, and relations with around the same time, and keeping in mind all the time. but the main enemy, use the united states. so it's the amount of states becomes more closely involved in what's happening in the middle east. or even becomes involved with terribly, that's where a russian will be a very important the red line. and also,
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if there's any threat to the russian allies, the regime of us, um, in the masters and the breast, russia as a military presence in syria, then russia. good. that's true. did call may be even i left early involved right now that seems a remote possibility is for the russian position. big change because being here right, a friend of here on and being in the same time, a friend of israel, then there wouldn't be a romantic is a very big core for just the terrorist position. the app. i mean, it's a pretty, even just the 2 step aside. another thing because the house of cards will simply come, but i but what i mean, nobody wants to see this of course brought into a wide and middle east conflict. but what role should be willing to take sides if that happens? if, if it's right, if us comes down on the side of israel, will rush to take sides. will it have to, you know,
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try to avoid it again because our hands are full with the ukraine. but we have a i can patients in syria, they are fighter jets and there. and do you ever have to keep a bill or is there that could possibly get involved? and then you've got if the trade motors through a serious way into syria and has well, sort of get to get, get some ball very much too bad. and that's where we're actually getting about to and i know touching on on around again for china, how high of, of stakes with china, if this conflict broadens out in the middle east, a go to 87 percent of it runs oil exports in the last couple of years, it define takes more oil from the middle east than the us does. so there's a lot of stake is that the china, it was a lot of stake in terms of energy, but quite frankly, china is position is it's not going to get involved in anything. militarily. there
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are no alliances. what they're going to continue to do is call for peace and talks, because it's the only rational thing you can do. bulletin bombs and killing children is not going to, and this is a, you know, tragedy that's been going on for these many years. so at this point, the china is not in a position to even act militarily. the closest thing they have is digit booty. and that is just the re supplies station for anti piracy. so there's no question about any kind of military involvement in terms, it'd be wrong. iran has their own position on this day, obviously by husband law, which backs. uh, you know, the, the, the guys and entities are there that attacked him off. so, you know, i, yeah, the real danger here is that, you know, i was on a show where you, you had an american, a brit and, and, and is really saying that piece at any cost. and they were talking about moving
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everybody out of golf. so, you know, i don't know how you marshal in a 1400000 people out of there. and it said, but with no, no sense of the consequences of what that would mean down the road. and this was the reason the war and syria because while i was exam, what i mean is this is a more steak for china about the recycle. the us in the middle east because of china is much greater reliance on energy from the middle east than the usb us can back is riley, is that it has done on a critically, without a droid pulling israel back. but china has more at stake. well, it does, but the u. s. will not go and stay right now. it's concerned about inflation. the global or oil prices are already spiking. you're already starting to see uh, spikes also in, um, uh for la as this is going to lead to more inflation in the u. s. that is not going to be welcome. they might get a little bit of bump out of selling excess oil or across the seas. but this is
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a global issue we've had showed our, you know, we have ukraine and now we have a israel. these are undermining the very basic structure of our economy, which is about a global supply system or demand grades, jobs, and opportunities. right now, none of that is happening. okay, i show you've written that you've thought it might be better for india to take more neutral stems. but there's a lot more in this where india to back israel in terms of defense in terms of trade and defense and security, operate co operations. a lot of there's a lot of significant times that for india. yeah, but i think the india is not the most. yeah. a sign of india is india. and i think the, we know that the media has the limitations also on the ship. one of the front, but all the hallways going to be engaged the minute the has all the spring, which is what i that's why i saw that vision be better that a big deal as
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a new brother stands, india, the spy. that is, the more the origin of best buy it's, it's a increased all the improved relationship with the drive on a very strong minded web stick, but it doesn't really go based on what these right. it does also the very strong goal, but it's on the gulf countries. and this is where i think about the challenge dom soon because india must realize that if this conflict lingers this power, let us continue with that will be a very different class. how to manage these relationships together. and i think it is also important to realize that india had this problem best for our communities. we just there and we have the old sort of that would be a very big divisions we do, but as 5 community out there would look at this complex. so i think it has lots of java edge which india really didn't get back in the beginning because of this and what these, what is that we went on like this, this kind of conflict,
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citing with the kids. right. i understand, but they have developed strong a secret relationship with these read and there's a lot of argument a gold ring, but it doesn't. we don't, but uh, with the smaller zimmerman does that is it? but i think it is also very important for me to look at where the india stands, what india can do and what about but in just set up a woman dressed on the song because by the thing i know properties. so then click it. so you'd be saying that it's a bit to mode is condemnation of, of, of how much click on button condemnation of how much good effect in these relations with arab states. what i'm saying is that, but you, but it less on. so you saw how lens, if the conflict of stops escalating, if the conflict are becoming much more miles on it than what it is now, then it will bit booked india into a kind of bracket, which is not very possible for it to then the relationship with the countries i
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joined eliza spent on growing the glass on the page, right. so that will create the number of complications that many complicates on. so you call them like wise or bodies wives. it's all sort of lessons that with about the sun as well as the china. so i'm also, it's a bad spot but which presents in that. and i think that's why it is very important . but in the intense a new problem, what is on because it has already developed as prominent lessons to reduce that. but india also extremely dependent on now having a very strong relationship, or at least in watching the lessons of the rest of the country. okay, a pebble is, is rush, you're a beneficiary for now. washington's change of focus from ukraine to israel, a low. yes, that's a whole let's express merchant so that now the west is going to be involved in centering itself. birds on demand the least. and that means they won't have more
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resources are they should actually of the top leadership of the west on your brain, especially in the united states where there's also dysfunction. all right, now congress. and so this hope that you're printing may be left out in the cold. i don't know how that will work out, but the sports right now we're going to often went there and the brand work there. and so most likely there's going to be some boys in the fight, the, you know, cranium friends, another lee. and while that happens, the force happens. maybe the problems in the middle age, would we be escalate to some extent? but right now, yes, there's hope that this was going to work out that may be in russia stable, but many years past boots environment booted might've thoughts, ways to cooperate with weston countries, monday to broke or an end to the fighting. but there's not much incentive for him to do that. now is there, i guess the best i could put in possible because russian and
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american diplomats and i'll talk you through each other almost at all. i mean, they can't get together because they're very together. and so they're very of course, a very serious problem because communications between moscow and washington, they're almost broke down between moscow and brussels up aging. has tried to stay on friendly terms with the muslim world. does that give it a, an incentive to try and be a sort of a, a stakeholder in, in becoming a stabilizing force, trying to become a stabilizing force in the middle east. a lot of think about the, who's all power's in the world to try to be a stabilizer horse and who does it benefit? i mean, there you've been asking questions, does it benefit india or russia or the west? we're trying to, it doesn't. this is all negative. there is no good news here. so this idea that you
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know, this is a, i calculate a game. no, it isn't. is, this is a situation that's been going on for many, many years. it finally exploded. people are horrified. more horrifying things are happening. let's say you are a muslim today in the world and you're looking at this situation and you're looking at, you know, the u. s. and other countries demanding that use hot stand with israel or that you're some sort of war criminal. there are, there are many people in the middle east and muslims who feel very differently about this. so right now, you know, you're creating this kind of touch point where people are going to remember how things played out. and this is not good for the world. the last thing we need is more sectarian violence. so at this juncture, yes, a china is very aware that there are forces that are trying to tear the world a part. there are countries that think that bullets and bombs are the solution. they don't believe that. i shall come motor used to be worried about the reaction
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of, of muslims in india as if he bold it anymore. as he written off the support for the national elections next year. it will be, is very least impressed. and so he's been mostly and supported because i don't think anything. what everybody has done already fall, the 9 and a half years was not going to get it done. most of them, but i'm a little every might, but i think, but that's what these most most what is should be i think uh uh because you know, if the password goes i'll go find the ways to address on each. it's also, but in the india what india is already dividing today is about putting are getting a lot of times on each politics of getting a lot sentence about and not only muslims, but also all the guns why they don't on the, on the other routes. so i think he is much more worried about the election, but also this make the amount of john is for him, how he will do it. but i think overall, i think go, well, you need to know that you do be in the best interest of the peace and stability in
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be a console for that reason. because it's a very important reason for india, india as a comic. i'm patients in the us for component policy challenges and i think he was a huge probably, or the percentage on not doing just fine as long as you guys thought this might, the has finally realized that they kind of planned the side that the in one site again, in this situation, but also the story before it's extremely important to be looking at the piece of justice, even use it on the way to has a huge impact to be some justice. and i think it's, it's best to set it up more. they need to really realize that on the, in the us or not very, very quickly, ashok does indeed have an eye on how the u. s. has reacted indeed, and criticized. russia's invasion of ukraine, not for straight to the bottom. ministration does indeed wanna a signal to the support that it's taken to us as a pool hit. yes, india is actually a bit more of a sudden now to get us off. what particularly the challenge we just spoke to from,
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from the canada, canada as mine, minnesota, that used to india, florida. it's a visa, but use of the meeting a. but wanted to go as a nation in the car and headed back to the needs in the, in the support and the needs that support from the us. and i think that's one of them made him desperate to get that. and of course he to have some kind of goal for india. so while i'm seeing gaming, you couldn't also put some kind of ideas that really both front of us then back probably how. okay gentlemen were out of time. but funk still feel perspective thanks to all of august the pebble folk and how i know time good and shock swain, and thank you to for watching. you can see the problem again. any time by visiting our website out, is there a don't com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com forward slash a j inside the store. you can also during the conversation on x, we are at a j inside story from me, the smith and the whole team here. by the
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