so bad by the text at this moment on fiber optics of goods. what are the people in the state of shock? people are very scared, very stress. a lot of people are saying the country contented carter attacks were bonding more. i'm shocked by our government. i'm just care about the united states has been israel is a strong risk in the war on gaza. your fee and union and united kingdom have also voice political support as well. palestinians are killed on the humanitarian situation. lessons. what russia, china and india stuff. this is inside store the

hello and welcome to the program and the and the world is watching events and gaza, but from different standpoints. washington has promised it's on way ring, backing to israel and a sudden military equipment to support them embodying of gaza. and it's 2300000 people the use as it stands in solid diety, with israel, after what it calls the heinous crimes, by how much government that killed at least 1300 people, unless more than 3000 injured. but that's in the little international pressure on israel to rein in. it's a tax on palestinians. what about of the world powers wants that sounds? and do they have a role to play? we'll be discussing this with, i guess in a few moments. but 1st, this report from laura con of the war in garza, his who do i world opinion, strong support, the israel and the west, but

a different picture elsewhere. china has called for strength and says the root cause of historical injustice as the palestinians needs to be addressed, but it's treading a fine line facing has consistently supported the policy mean cause. but since establishing diplomatic relations in 1992 is running, china have developed close ties, particularly in military and development technology policy and authority president . would i pass this sit beijing in june. and china promised to work towards resolving the conflict with israel. it's becoming more involved in the middle east, brokering a deal between saudi arabia and to run, to re establish relations in march of russia to have a complex relationship with both israel and palestine. many as radius have russian heritage, but like china, russia has stress the need for the radio occupation to be addressed. on monday, it's prevented the un security council from agreeing on

a statement to condemn her mouse. at daylight to president vladimir putin played to say of us policy, the belief there's really news. on the contrary, it promoted its own ideas about how they should be done. put pressure on both sides 1st on one side, then on the other, every time without taking into account the fundamental interests of the palestinian people in india have the light itself with israel prime minister and render moody post on social media. the country stood in solidarity with israel at this difficult hour. in 2017 moody became the 1st indian prime minister to visit israel, but not to go to palestine. of the 2 has only had diplomatic ties since 1992 bought the build a strategic relationship. india has become the biggest buyer this way, the weapons, despite historically supposing the palestinians, the governing brought the janelle to a party is supporting israel. but on the 1st day,

the india administrative extended the says that india is re, it's racing. it's cool for an independent palestinian state and the leading stick in the opposition congress policy have condemned thomas for talking civilians. but the tax is ready policy. at the heart of the conflict. there was a larger issue, a stake here, and the reason behind all of this, which is that there is a dehumanizing occupation continuing in many places the people of gaza have felt imprisoned. and that stripped for a long time, the people of westbank have a war which is interfering with their, with their normal freedom of movement and, and conditions of life. the 2 state solution unites all 3 major powers as full rages in goals of the rock homes inside story. i'll just there of the let's bring in august then must go pebble file going to how as an independent russian foreign policy analyst

and badging were joined by i know time going to senior fellow, the tight institute, a chinese think tongue and, and up solid sweden is shock swayne, a professor at the department of peace and conflict research at up sala university . i will welcome to you will probably let me stop with you regarding it puts in, i'm benjamin netanyahu, russia, and his right was supposed to be friends. but there's been no phone call from the kremlin this week, no message of condolence. why as well actually today and the sun, my bill for the, the coming out of the rest of the commonwealth of independent states. in this case, the carrier gives it publishing and said that announced that israel has been the victim of a terrorist attack that has the restaurant. so effect at the same time reach, arranging, the pressure wants to cease fire for all sides to go show restraint. and the

pressure supports the 2 state solution with the palestinian stage capital and it is yours. so uh so interruption position is kind of slow right now. around there, balance that i would say, and though yes, there was no phone call to hold up to the, to russia. right now, there's not one to go and become, or do you want to really criticized a israel, at least a criminal does not. of course, it should be understood that there are different attractions in the restroom leadership and the restroom. a practice and there are embedded pro arab bank. the is really and the end to do a share of it say, fractions. but there are no sort of support israel, and there are problems in jews and president boynton. i am tends to be that he is a kind of now to be a friend of the jewish people,

sorta. israel has not seen as amended, america is but is. but what into israel of expected, most of overbooked support from the crowd of man, after all, israel didn't join sanctions against the rush or after the invasion of ukraine. israel hasn't got much bought from the kremlin this week. it seems the same thing, but they're not, those are getting any kind of right now. russian pushed back to so maybe the foreign ministry is a bit more pro arab, i would say. but again, to the establishment in the foreign ministry in the russian military establishment . the belgian services to be kind of pro error and they're still connections that were found during the cold war. but there are there other fractions inside the crowd when the result is or finds the islands position. i think there is really,

i was fact the bed rushes my on the which has military forces. decor nearby in syria is not right. is that right now in the rather balanced, neutral position or i, i know in badging, china hasn't directly criticized how mostly suite, the foreign minister, one use of the why, right way to resolve the conflict is to advance the 2 state solution and resume piece talks. but in less, no, that's not going to happen in the near future. why is china treading carefully trying carefully because you have a situation where people are trying to create this false dichotomy that it's either one way or the other way that you're either stand with the palestinians or you stand with israel. china is trying to stand with the people. they do not want more depths. the tragic loss of life that was happening before the thomas

attack, the tragic loss of life during it. and now we have even more traction. it is not doing well. i mean, already we've, there was an attack here in beijing. a jewish of the embassy official was attacked in broad daylight. i mean, what you have here is a chain reaction of hatred and deaf that is following round. it is time stop that cycle to state solution. everybody knows that. that's the only way out. and unfortunately, no one wants to admit it. now everyone's rushing to say, i'm with this, this guy or that guy right now. there are only villains and victims, no heroes. so just trying to see that it might have some sort of a mediation role after it success pops with saudi arabia and iran, those china just trying to see that. well, i think you make a mistake of inferring that the, you know, the chinese take on this same role that the west of the, you know, china,

this is not a political play thing for domestic audiences. china, if it was more than happy to be a part of any peaceful resolution, they'd be happy, happy you west of russia, anybody who could stop fish carnage. you have uh, 2000000 people there. i'm 1000000 children. how is this going to work? all right. adding more tragedy, it's incredible to me that we're creating a chain, the children that live who live to this bombardment, right? what's gonna happen to them? how easily will they be radicalized? this is an ongoing chain of situ situation. and instead of having responsible governments saying, look, everyone that needs to come down, we need to start talking instead of throwing bullets and bonds at each other. and you're not hearing that, it's just all about taking sides. a shock of the government in india has been more vocal linux support solved is rouse now the render motorcycle, we stand in solidarity with israel, but this is from the country that was the 1st unknown,

our country to recognize the p l. o. and then the states of the palestinian state was changed in india with moody. i think i do. we all know that the more the and the handle and that's my list are government weeks out all the way. is one 3rd or has been pretty slowly been closer to the is a while. uh, of course, but at least once it is quite warm despite india is simply a ma recognizes a bottom uh bar. it'd be on the bed ball went on from the my degree based on the 90 the ninety's. but what has happened here? i think he, when they mout quite strongly saying about the india is with this very i'll even describe the almost size of that already started and i use some of the young blonde doesn't really look at that way. but i think then that went on like this because the reason is exactly the all i'm fine. most of the money is less than full

big ideas we spend while the government pods and bodies, $1.00 thing which we should really route about most of them to be closer to is right. and also they have very strong military. you're all good or less sunset. now with these right, so or saying that i think what happened now that it has been of course, a very strong bully or premium. it's not a one or 200000000 muslims don't. don't live in india, but also lots of strength of legal opinion, isn't fair model for otherwise i'm assuming because i think that the has all of a sudden now they have the allies and they have made a statement with the ministry has come up with a statement which of making a balance to be that they've done what they need or want more they need in the beginning. so this is the, is the sign of a 10 by mode as i have a more so as a foreign policy. it was so far uh, for administer trying to draw all that back in again. then that's right. they have tried to make it sound like they are worried about what is going to happen. and

they also need to do that. but they, they are improvement off the boosted solution. they are trying to say that, look, what does what is happening. we are what it about, but he might have w, i mutual gym guy. the doctor was missing completely in the beginning, and i think it has come basically, as i said, because of the pressure from the public opinion and also the allies that the indian history is. india is just to become independent of 78 years back. they don't have that kind of a one year funding a colonial boxed, which they understand very well the public very what is that, what is happening and by this time. so i think that was really bob, bob will because it's a, somehow they have gone not to this, but let me stop brooch bumper, but really i'm fine ministry. just the dialogue. what, what do you have said before? okay, people, a, back to russia is russia worried about iran and one of random things given that now

it's one of the primary supplies of alms to rush here, as it continues as more in ukraine. of course, your brain is the right now main focus going. the whole russian policy isn't time. no, i'm extern and iran has been supported this bit, and there's being increasingly close ties. big grade moscow. abdur rahman rush show up not want to really get on the wrong side of the the radians. so yes, them says russian policies in the middle east will be rational tread very, very carefully. not the worst and relations with israel, not the worst, and relations with around the same time. and keeping in mind all the time, the main enemy use the united states. so it's the amount of states becomes more closely involved in what's happening in the middle east or even becomes involved with terribly that's for russian will be a very important the red line. and also,

if there's any threat to the russian allies, the regime of us, um, in the masters and the 1st russia as a military presence in syria, then russia. good. that's true. did call may be even i left early involved right now that seems a remote possibility is for the russian position. big change because be right in front of iran and being at the same time, a friend of israel, then, then be a romantic is a very big core for just the terrorist position. the app. i mean it to be even just the 2 step aside. another thing because the house of cards will simply come, but i, but what i mean, nobody wants to see this of course brought into a wide and middle east conflict. but what role should be willing to take sides if that happens? if, if it's right, if us comes down on the side of israel, will rush to take sides. we'll have to, you know,

try to avoid it again because our hands are full with the ukraine. but we have a i can patients in syria. they are fighter jets and there, and do you ever have to keep the despair that can possibly get involved? and then you've got if the tray motors through a serious way into syria as well. so it's getting, it gets involved a very much too bad, and that's where we're actually getting about to and i know touching on, on around again for china, how high of, of stakes with china, if this conflict broadens out in the middle east, a go to 87 percent of it runs oil exports in the last couple of years. it takes more oil from the middle east than the us does. so there's a lot of stake is that the china, it's, well, there's a lot of stake in terms of energy, but quite frankly, china is position is it's not going to get involved in anything. militarily. there

are no alliances. what they're going to continue to do is call for peace and talks, because it's the only rational thing you can do. bulletin bombs and killing children is not going to, and this is a, you know, tragedy that's been going on for these many years. so at this point, the china is not in a position to even act militarily. the closest thing they have is digit booty. and that is just the re supply station for anti piracy. so there's no question about any kind of military involvement in terms, it'd be wrong. iran has their own position on this. they obviously back husband law, which backs. uh, you know, the, the guys and entities are there that attacked them off. so, you know, i, a real danger here is that, you know, i was on a show where you, you had an american, a brit and, and, and is really saying that piece at any cost. and they were talking about moving

everybody out of golf. so, you know, i don't know how you marshal, in a 1400000 people out of there. and it said, but with no, no sense of the consequences of what that would mean down the road. and the reason, the war and syria. because while i was exactly what i mean is, this is a more steak for china than the recycle. the us in the middle east because of china is much greater reliance on energy from the middle east than the usb us going back is riley, is that it has done on a critically without a droid pulling israel back. but china has more at stake. well, it does, but the u. s. would not go and stay right now. it's concerned about inflation. the global or oil prices are already spiking. you're already starting to see a spikes also in, um, uh for la as this is going to lead to more inflation in the west. that is not going to be welcome. they might get a little bit of bump out of selling excess oil or across the seas. but this is

a global issue we've had showed our, you know, we have ukraine and now we have a israel. these are undermining the very basic structure of our economy, which is about a global supply system where demand, grades, jobs, and opportunities right now, none of that is happening. okay. i show you've written that you've thought it might be better for india to take more neutral stems. but there's a lot more in this where india to back israel in terms of defense in terms of trade and defense and security, operate co operations. a lot of there's a lot of significant times that for india. yeah. but i think uh, yeah. is not the most. yeah. or china, india is india and i think the india has the limitations also on the ship. what are the front but all the hallways going to be engaged the minute the has all the spring, which is what i that's why i saw that the some be better. that

a big deal as a new brother stands india. spite, it's the more the original on best buy it's. it's a increased all the improved relationship with the drive on a very strong web stick, but it doesn't really difficult, but it's something with the drive. it has also the very strong pool, but it's on the gulf countries. and this is where i think about the challenge bouncing. because india must realize that if this conflict lingers this power, let us continue with that will be a very different list. how to manage these relationships together. and i think it is also important to realize that india had this problem best for our communities. we just there and we have the old sort of, there wouldn't be a very big divisions. we didn't, but as 5 community how they would look at this complex. so i think it does it lots of challenge which india really didn't get back in the beginning because of this more these, what is that we went on like this, this kind of complete,

exciting with the kids. right. i understand. but if they have developed strong muscular relationship with these read and there's a lot of arguments that go the language, doesn't we don't, but uh, with that internationally. zimmerman does that, is it? but i think it is also very important for them to look at where they india stance, what the india can do and what but, and just set up one interest of the song because by the thing a new properties. so then click it. so you'd be saying that it's a bit, the mode is condemnation of, of, of how much click on button condemnation of how much good effect in these relations with arab states. what i'm saying is that the lesson is showing you how lives in the conflict of stops escalating if the conflict to the domain, what's more miles on it than what it is now. then it will bit booked india into a kind of bracket which is not very possible for you to manage the center of

the countries i joined. i spent on growing the glass on the bridge, right so that we created the number of complications. many complicates on c comic wise and bodies wives. it's all sort of lessons that read about the sun as well as the china. so i'm also it's a bass one of the way presents in that. and i think that's why it is very important . but india maintenance a new problem, what is on because it has already developed as prominent lessons to reduce that. but india also extremely dependent on now having a very strong relationship, or at least in watching the lessons of the rest of the country. okay, a pebble is, is rush, you're a beneficiary for now. washington's change of co cars from ukraine to israel. i guess that's a whole, let's express merchant so that now the west is going to be involved in centering itself. birds on demand the least. and that means they won't have more resources

are they should actually of the top leadership of the west on your brain, especially in the united states where there's also dysfunction. all right, now congress. and so this hope that your printer may be left out in the cold. i don't know how that will work out, but the flux right now, we're going to often went during the brand where they're at. and so most likely there's going to be some pause and the finding even put in friends another lee. and while that happens, the boss happens. maybe the problems in the middle, each foot please be escalate to something like that. but right now, yes, there's hope that this was going to work out. there may be in russia stable, but many years past boots it environment booted, might've thoughts, ways to cooperate with weston countries, monday to broke, or an end to the fighting. but there's not much incentive for him to do that. now

is there, i guess the best possible because russian and american diplomats are not quite a few through each other almost at all. i mean, they can't get together because they're putting together. and so they're very of course, a very serious problem because communications between moscow and washington, their own was broke down between moscow and brussels. ah, paging has tried to stay on friendly terms with the muslim world. does that give it a, an incentive to try and be a sort of a, a stakeholder in, in becoming a stabilizing force, trying to trying become a stabilizing force in the middle east? a lot of think about it. it behooves all powers in the world to try to be a stabilizer horse and who does it benefit? i mean, new you've been asking questions, does it benefit india or russia or the west? we're trying to it doesn't. this is all negative. there is no good news here. so

this idea that you know, this is a, i calculate a game. no, it isn't. is, this is a situation that's been going on for many, many years. it finally exploded. people are horrified. more horrifying things are happening. let's say you are a muslim today in the world and you're looking at this situation and you're looking at, you know, the us and other countries demanding that use hot stand with israel or that you're some sort of war criminal. there are, there are many people in the middle east, muslims who feel very differently about this. so right now, you know, you're creating this kind of touch points where people are going to remember how things played out. and this is not good for the world. the last thing we need is more sectarian violence. so at this juncture, yes, a china is very aware that there are forces that are trying to tear the world part . there are countries that think that bullets and bombs are the solution. they don't believe that i shall come motor used to be worried about the reaction of,

of muslims in india as if he bold it anymore. as he written off the support for the national elections next year. a multi is very list impressed him. so he's been mostly and supported because i don't think anything what everybody has done already fall the 9 and a half years. so he's not going to get into muslim books or more of a little every might. but i think, but that's what these most most what is should be, i think uh uh because you know, if the password goes i'll go find the waste address on each. it's also, but in the india what india is already divided into there is about putting or giving a lot of time and on huge quantities as getting a lot sentence about not only most of them, but also all the quantities on all the other. all the rules, so i think he is much more worried about the election, but also this make the amount of janet forehand, how he will do it. but i think overall, i think don't, well, you need to know that you do be in the best interest of the peace and stability in

be a cost of that reason because it's a very important reason for india, india as a comic i'm patients, india for component policy lenses and i think he was a huge probably, or the percentage on not doing just fine as long as you guys thought miss martha has finally realized that they kind of played this, that the in one site again in this situation. but also the story before it's extremely important to be looking at the piece of justice even believes it under which a has a huge impact to be some justice. and i think it's, it's the very best to set it up more. they need to really realize the india sort. i'm not very, very quickly. shocked does indeed have an eye on how the u. s. has reacted india didn't criticize rushes. invasion of ukraine, not for straight to the bottom. ministration does indeed wanna a signal to the support that it took and see what the support hit. yes, in the eyes, i feel a bit more of a sudden now forget us all the time. and we just bought the phone from the canada.

it done it. i signed minnesota that used to india for it to be 0, but use of the meeting a but wanted to go as a nation even in canada, and that the head back to the needs in the, in the support the needs that support from the us and i think that's one of the made him desperate to get that. and of course we do have some time you don't for india. so while i'm so you can get me a new plan also called some guy. and the idea is that if there's really both front of us then back probably how. okay, gentlemen were out of time. but funk still feel perspective. thanks to all of august the people felt going to how i know tongue. good and shock swain. and thank you to for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website out. is there a dot com for further discussion? go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j inside the store. you can also draw on the conversation on x. we are a j inside story from me,

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