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ok, so please be told that we are right now. they are on the road to the lines. my macbook that felt like the going to words seek is really i'm to see. that's where the law just go to as being competing. there is a security coordinate around the embassy. so security forces have not allowed to just just to go either inside or very close to the embassy up at the number of people have been increasing by the hour as people are very young. the what has been happening in his eyes. so it's not just the capital, not mine. and as i said, either places in jordan i, their approach is happening has been, as you just said, that it is not just one place. now sporadic protests are happening across them, at least. okay, we'll leave it there and call us back to throughout the evening, assigned the binge of aide in jordan for us. let's get some analysis now with delilah era kat who is an assistant professor of conflict resolution diplomacy and strategic planning at the arab american university. she joins us from ramallah.
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thank you so much for being on the program. firstly, we've been reporting on an unfolding situation in central ramallah between the palestinian security forces and protest is, can you give us a sense as to why tensions of boiling over between base people as well, listen, we are furious. we now want the community that stood with israel to go out of town with the civilians, with the 2000000 people dying and being massacre they can gather which we had to switch those info to all the diplomatic efforts. it's a slap to only the starting with by then with france, with germany, with they use case. i want to ask them very blunt question. do they didn't sound with us when it's time we ask them to condemn the editor in the states, organize that a. i mean, for god's sake, the part of the gods mastercard in the us, but the crime is documented on the screen is what are the new those waiting for? we're still talking about diplomacy, diplomacy has failed the humanity. i mean,
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the public opinion people have been facing different crimes of both of them. and i'm sorry, the engine aside on collect the punishment for 75 years under the political occupation. 16 years on that. i'm located in the price of basic human rights for the past 11 days, i know around 4000, so i'm sitting and sold. pet is what is the end to nothing and community waiting for and saying that they can buy israel is way and has violated everything. get into nice that a lot, everything get into the material. not every single article of the court did. you have a convention, immediate, the inspire and hard to do the thought of the is really liked to sort of the defense is expected now, not only from the palestinian people, but from every conscious mind that every concert band in this world humanity is being failed. those people think that the 2200000 civilians in gaza are facing different massacre and different kinds of more crime that are enjoying impunity.
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this is the disaster of 2023 in the 21st century. we are witnessing the team in oregon. i states that are being committed against a palestinian civilian population of 2000000 thoughts and a b c. and you know what? the hospital, this was the bombed and got the guess what? it's an anglican hospital and king charles is the head of the contest. this means you have some that you will take government from your perspective and we appreciate your passion on this issue to allow from your perspective as someone that is an associate professor of conflict resolution. diplomacy in strategic planning. do you think that president bivens visit to israel is going to be useful at this point? or what i always do exactly. what's destructive diplomacy that's blinking and binding are doing in the middle east? is a basic attack because the translation of the, of the essentially yes, live let's look at the fact what's had been happening in gaza for the past week is
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a genocide against the palestinian people. we have seen the force of the forward displacements eviction, or that is for the kind of thing and people, yes, they want to eventually got the, this is identified and they want to continue with accept the project for what, for the interest of the deed of defend city for more annexation of land. i mean the whole world is witnessing this mass a good and the defense world. crime is out today just that everybody's keeping silent is out today that, that there are some states that are saying they understand by isn't. it says time for justice to prevent the palestinians have and you and justices of different x are deficient kidding, defense and confiscations of glass. the better. and yes i am speaking of the professor of diplomacy. i says, my students, when i teach them you end dissolution, new and taught the it's the national law. i have a question of what i teach my students today in palestine. we have to the dated or the type of things we gave up on the historic mandated palestine. we accepted,
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i said on 22 percent. guess what? what did the piece process that video? she shouldn't get this and you know, that's what it comes to conflict resolution. negotiations is $12.00, and $2.00 complexes. it's a piece for a cartridges edition. it does not end in that sense. what the world is, is asking, you know, they are after she'll get to go through this process, the situation on the ground deteriorate. so we live in, seattle is separated by 750000 thoughts as we need to look at this from i faxed to what perspective they left the for any kind of kind of thing and they add to add to this. let me remind you of the bed for a declaration which said of minority advice of the images and civil rights alone. they are depriving the kind of thing and people over the advice of self determining sions. yes, they are investing the kind of thing and people forcibly displacing them and explain our lab serving the deal of defense study and everything at the expense of the kind of thing in people's lives. our lives lives matter. i mean,
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every kind of thing you, to a human being tell a human being, you know, according to a new birth of the place of human rights, we do to over children today that every human is equal. with all that the what if you are into by go i didn't check the high. if you are in london, if you are in california, we are all equal unless the citizens of palestine and the 2200000 civilians in god are seen as a human being. then how can we talk about contract to do to us and how can we talk about deformity months? the last to them of them and diplomacy has failed. the found the thing and people it has been just that has been to humanity. i really eric and i really expect thing i'm waiting for. the nice of them were leader of that. you know, you wouldn't get out of the out the face of the canada, of the u. k. o, i don't the words to condemn the is the united states or the light set of otherwise there is no hope of education. there is no hope of conflict resolution. we can only expect to see more violence if we, if we have the word that is the, it is states that of okay, well we appreciate your insights and what is
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a very difficult time. that was delilah. eric had an assistant professor of conflict resolution diplomacy and strategic planning at the arab american university. okay, we just passed a 20 jam t. that's 11 pm in gaza. i'm going to give you a quick recap as to what sun folded in the last hour. wong with pain on and okay. these are pictures out of remodeler at the moment palestinian, secure. he forces there in the center of 5 t gas and stun grenades. to disperse protest is throwing rocks and changing against president mackwood, a bass. we've also seen several hours earlier this evening that a hospital was struck in central guys. so we know at least 500 people had been killed in that is riley, striking in the besieged enclave. that's according to the palestinians. health ministry. hundreds of families where sheltering there and also we know that these a live pictures from guys are at the moment. and we also know that potentially a school where people were sheltering, being run by united nations,
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was also struck. okay, let's bringing out his ear is russell sighed out has, who's covered the middle east extensively? certainly a really fluid situation at the moment and i want to break it down into different sections. the 1st is what's happening in ramallah at the moment because that's obviously the most fluid. we've seen it for a while. we've had gunshots. just break it down for us as to why paperless, so angry and why it's palestinians versus palestinians. well, know, you know that palestine is the white, it's mainly between guys and the west bank. so different. they are rules by different tortillas. so you guys a, how much is the routing party? and in the, around my last ortiz around by posting integration organization. so p i lo, i'm headed by my, who the bus, because nice internationally as the, the policy and present, or the present, or the,
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the of the hosting and administration. so, so far due to the quarter of the between these 2 organization, particularly since 2005 oh $1.00. we have seen that the level of the communication between these 2 posting infractions have been at the minimum level. however, while the communication was quite restricted or limited at the level of the leadership, that has been all these at least an emotional connection between the palestinians who live in from a lot of those we live in gaza under that in guys which is besieged since 2007 on. so today what you're seeing is more and more the, the do the people who are the posting or leaving a of, i'm a lot of raising the voice a guess. what's happening now in the guys and particularly is being for a hospital that keeps at least 500 people is now coming and keeping point so
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far. they haven't seen that much of collections or conflicts in from a lot with the posting and send these right on. however, no, i think this could be a psychological threshold, the code. so you get a why either one with a gas. the audacity is rarely a force occupation forces over there because i'm allow us to rest. remember that it's an occupied territory by israel and also beside that is relatively competing to home us. the posting administration had relations with the color, the read the is read alternatives, even 10 next time that they have some security um security agreements as well. but what does this from that one going to be the case or not? we do not know forever. we can see that this, these are blowing up. i'm, that is forcing the posting illustration, particularly about a surprise, the man with a bustle. so to act joseph that does that fact go see the 1st statement from him saying that tomorrow she's not going to miss praise. them by then who's supposed to read it to read? yes, just on that, i wanted to ask you
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a little bit about that further because we haven't really seen the public face of my food, a boss at all over the last 11 days. and that has been subject to a favorite of criticism. and now we've got him saying he's not going to meet cus president who is going to arrive and is round tomorrow. is that helpful at this point for my food at bass note to make the us president will that help create a diplomatic solution if there is no dialogue? well, so far, so the diplomatic, a force we need to break demo says that. so when we say diplomatic a force, do you mean your random truck heater in egypt? i mean, that's a good one. there are many places that we made me aware of in or north america. so now as of now what we can see north of north america do not meet the united states and canada and also the frontier lived in the west and the weight of the western countries, the leaders, they have one voice is a united voice. the piece of the announcing that they spend with israel and they
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are ready to provide the more weapons to israel m c. and that's stressing that is right, has the right to self defense. and but on the other hand, the regional actors are having a nymphs. they so be seeing that what is riley is doing is exceeding the surface of the trash will of self defense just yes, just 2 days ago when i think and the us secretary of state was in cairo. so publicly the different present, the cc told him that what is rarely is doing and exceeding the, the, the framework of self defense. and this is becoming a collective punishment. so we test see that this risk, this gap there. however, so far the americans have ink joy, a relatively cool in the out of sleep and also among the out of pool. and he says, well, but know, this booming of boys will pause because he's becoming
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a teacher. you point the origin, the psychological limits and the kind of leaders are fee on our food is now because the stories are pointing out, they're feeling foods that they need to act. so that's why this statement come from, i'm with the bus is quite bold that says nothing meeting the american present way of his wish to the region. if he's a quite a bold staff, i will say, so we're going to get an update from guys or in just a moment that i'll ask you one more question if i may rest. so we're seeing protests in tunisia in the capital, and we're also saying protests in jordan in amman. and now i'm being told that we're seeing protests in by rouge 11 on what does that say about the regional support of palestine and the palestine corps and gaza in many in the, in the middle east, we can see that there are lots of different that post the judges of the politics, i think the one of the come to the 4th because needs and also different cultures
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language. if this of these as a one habit for palestine traditionally through the decades have been one united t issue. so now the process is a said let alone jordan as a tree yet seen turkey and n b booth as well. uh, people are getting more for the v is rarely diplomatic mission to come. i think the embassies their call centers, and there was in the division didn't voice us. now, in our mind, some of the people was trying to read over the, uh, is ready embassy in turkey, in a stumble paper i know marching to where these are the cost of that. but sir, one of the things that called make a difference or could take these cries into the next level is particularly be, don't know, we can see the people who are now marching in on the streets of people who are asking has below, also to actively get involved into this conflict and that if that happens, that's definitely the going to to, to, to, to compile these clauses to escalate into a regional level. so if that happens,
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then we can call it original conflict original war, which is going to be moving from not only between 11 and israel, or israel and gaza, back to the other hand at different and a new front in syria and potentially another phone in human as well, so that's why i recently repeatedly heard that you were told that these are saying that is the most stop. if it continues these attacks on civilians, you guys are the resistance access. what does what they say will fact, or at least taking some preemptive measures. and as i said, if that happens, it says, well, my getting both the city i get a little or of the or the what it is in gamma and getting the whole even to a certain excess. some of the she, i mean she has so frequently that are running folks they are fighting actively. yeah. so yeah, definitely will some fee is that this is going to just service people over that is
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going to be quite a bit more difficult to contain it. and that's why the usaa saying that the assembly they have sent to uh watercraft chevy, yours to co pay the crisis to just make sure that this is between how much is riley forces. and they say that these are the children's to it just physical law. and iran from it, as i said, it is quite difficult for now. imagine that these cold remain as israel and guys a war, but the fear is not much more concrete. that any time this could really go beyond israel. some guys, this certainly is to say that it will still over and we really appreciate your break, you know, down for us russell set a l g 0 is very on report of who's kind of the middle east extensively. and i want to pick up on what you've just been talking about, which is the will between gaza and israel. but the fact that we now have a civilian hospital that has been found and that brings me to retire. ok, i do assume who joins us live from con eunice in southern guys i,
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i'll just recap briefly if i may, tired. what we know is that at least 500 people have been killed in that s drive which target heads a hospital struck a hospital within. in the last few hours, we know 500 people were killed. let's get your update now terrace. what have, what more have you learned about the situation which happened close by to you? well, during the past hour, the issue of the occupation forces had destroyed and targeted up at the hospital. this hospital was a medical center which provide services for thousands of palestinians central. the goal is this trip to be before the, during the beginning of this round to find thing between pops the new fine to is under use for the occupation forces displace have turned to be a safe sholtes for more than thousands of palestinians who really evacuate to the houses off to receiving different orders from the east where the occupation forces
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they tend to this hospital claim and thinking that display is going to be safe for them and to be away from the east. ready for apartments. meanwhile, this hospital has been instructed and hit by these really a forces causing till this current moment around causing slippery damage to this hospital and the just door to now, according to the palace, the minister of health inside the gaza, strippers between 200 up to 500 kind of sitting cubes in this, in this attack. also it's important to say that this number is potentially might increase in the coming hours. we are waiting further information from the promise to the minister pills. simply because to this current moment there was a, there are 200 a palestinian did, but he's still on identifying that seems that the situation in the hospital is absolutely catastrophe. but also the cubic current condition and the chief hospital is really terrifying. doctors are carrying on different meant to call the operations of the grounds that are facing such a great problem in dealing with the type with different kinds of victims and into people. they have turned up to the hospital due to the surging number of victims to
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have been folding. due today is ready for apartments. we heard that people were taking shelter in the hospital in hospitals, across a guys. where can people go with a concept shelter in a hospital? what, what other options do they have left? well, palestinians have absolutely limited options in terms of finding a safe place for them to be in a simply uh, all of residential buildings inside the goal is just to target for the use when he strikes your list. right? to administer, medical teens are also have been targeted by the is very few patients who is this. so the only place from the perspective of palestinians, a hospital simply because these hospitals are protected by the principles of the national lou and a targeting this, these hospitals considered to be old crime. and that must be treated violates the principles of the international low. so palestinians would not refund shelters and did not the nation schools they tend to, uh, to hospitals were the only thing with the surrounding areas of the hospitals, where just they are little bit safer from the is ready from bottom until this
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current moment. 5 hospitals have been pulled with evacuation in order to to be targeted. like the, the, the attack on the on are about and are of hospital was really catastrophe. you are talking about like there are according to eye witness inside the hospital. they are more than 5000 pound of sending whole residing of the courtyards of the, of the hospital. it seems that the number of casualties will increase. we're racing for that. so for further information from the thomas to the minister, if you'll decide the governor's trip, in terms of the increasing number of casualties targeting or you've been on the ground. and you've obviously been speaking to a lot of different people and the situation is changing every moment. but do you have any sense whether or not how mosse has spoken about this most recent attack on the hospital? well, generally in terms of the hostages us an official source told, told uh, i'll just be right back in the most amusement as relates to release
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a civilian president simply and kept his informed cops as if the question on the goal is this trip stop to the people in guys or in around where you are, have a sense of what's happening elsewhere in the region that they're being protests in support of palestine and palestinians in jordan, in lab and on in, um, another region just escapes me to z a. is there a sense that that people know that there are other countries out there supporting them a well different waves of, of protest have been launched in different areas in the world. different regional and international convict contamination statements were released, denali and b is rarely attacked on this hospital, which consider it to be clear will crime that treaty target and civilians. and they are conducting the great number of casualties resulted from this attack,
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people from, from different parts of the referrals and even in around the globe are organizing different marches and sort of diety with palestinians and conducting what time seems to be experiencing during the display. ongoing attacks on the goal is to stripe. what's the situation intensive food and was a we, we knew it was already dia, days ago. they were already mornings from the united nations. and now we're heading in today 12 of these conflict where a policy means getting food and water and fuel and basic supply well with the ongoing cloud of food is by these really patient authorities and the britain to prevention of the injury, opinion skills, or even a food supplies, so the goal is to stripe the situation because districts is relatively deteriorating. palestinians are depending on the local market conception of they are trying to a, to buy products from the, from the shops and site, the goals district. but these products will, will soon, uh, it will to run out from dependents many markets. if there is no, any kind of
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a ag of entry of food supplies to the receipts and collect you've like are talking about 2300000 palestinians inside the this church rates are trying to, uh, to let in different kinds of food products. now, with a great shortage of these products, different starve agent assignments is no key that are making the doors have promised plenty of this assign. the goal is to strip so promising is are demanding the international community to afford them humanitarian aides in order to be able to cope with the current situation. okay, we'll leave it there. thanks so much for the update tarik. bu a zoom in guys. let's head to occupied east jerusalem, where in wrong kind of standing by for us in run tensions a certainly high in the occupied territories. what's happening, where you as well as i thought everything is actually quite have bobs. we have been hearing various calls
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from the most, but we don't know whether or not to y'all's computers come out in the streets but occupied east jerusalem is actually very quiet right now. so we know, expecting the kind of levels of protests we've seen in remodel up because those protests are against the palestinian authority policy. and you of course, he said he has no rich a bus. well, the pipes, the more interesting question is whether, what this effect has, uh, well this has an effect on presenter buttons visit. that's what people are going to be asking. results to button is you in is ro on wednesday he was supposed to be meeting with president my mood, a boss of the palestinian authority. that's now not happening. he's on his way back or to run my life, whether the meeting goes ahead and it is likely to go ahead with the king up to law jordan and the judge and the to see see, what will that mean present of about who the boss is in those meeting if he's not
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in that meeting, which are the button now present, abbas has been calling for humanitarian court or he's been calling. ready a ceasefire. the us actually voted along with phones, britain and japan in the security council against a ceasefire. so it doesn't look like disease by coming any time soon. present drug buying is bought to arrive to put massive aid and weapons into the hands of the is right he's, he's fairly back in these right? he's right to defend itself. all of these things have had an impact on present box load, a bass, and the situation now that we're seeing in the middle of. so that's really the real question right now. here. no deposit, east jerusalem. we probably want to see the kinds of level of process that we've seen and remodel up, but certainly alone palestinians here will be asking themselves. where is the palestinian each in him run any response from israel following the strike on
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a hospital in central guys or this evening? a yes, a prime minister benjamin netanyahu was treated as has of any guns as well. they blaming their strike squarely on as long as you have the house signing that this was a slide which i had rocket that perhaps misfired and hit the hospital. that is actually being challenged by the people that are in the church. the anglican church very, they've said that it is and is ready, right? also a medicine. so frontier doctors without voters have said it's also and he's ready to destroy. we've seen this type of thing before from the is res. take, for example, the color of i'll call you can strain a block like at the initial stages of the report, these res, blamed a fighters with engineering comp for death. it was only later that they and they said it was one of the. so this is, it's something that we've seen these where it needs to be folded right now. these are, these are all from the siding, but this was a,
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it's one that you had real good. not one of that has how that's being contradicted . like i said by the argument that community, the army can chose actually owns that building in garza. and also several of the bodies as well. but like i say, if you table is realized on in the past, it cost out and say when the dust settles a quietly, it may say it was actually the. okay, we appreciate that update in ron con for us you know, q 5 east jerusalem. let's head to christian salumi now who joins us live from the united nations headquarters in new york. christian is only a fluid situation at the moment. has there been any immediate reaction from me? you went through this strike on the hospital in russia and the united arab emirates have called for an emergency security council meeting on wednesday. 10 am tomorrow in response to this latest strike,
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but we're still waiting for a reaction from the secretary general. we have asked for a response and have not received it yet, but i can say that earlier today, the s g spokesperson said that no place in gaza is safe anymore. and civilians are paying the price that was before the hospital was struck. and after a year, when school was hit, killing 6 people in response to that, the commissioner general for henri, which runs the school which was serving as a shelter for hundreds, if not thousands of people said that it was outrages. he said it was a flagrant disregard for the lives of civilians. the u. n. has also pointed out that under humanitarian law, civilians and particularly the wounded at hospitals are supposed to be protected. that is part of the rules of war. but of course in gaza right now,
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it's not just bombs that people are worried about. it's the fact that they're running out of water fuel and food and medicine. and so the u. n. has been very concerned about his latest escalation and has been very focused on trying to get aid is kristin. russia proposed to cease fire resolution, but the last we heard discussions were continuing. what's the update that the right well the russian resolution was voted down and didn't get enough support. it was a very generic call for a ceasefire. it also condemned terrorism and condemned the attacks on civilians. uh, the united states said it was outrages that it didn't mention him us. and that any resolution from the security council would have to include a condemnation of her mos in the taking of civilian hostages. so brazil has been
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working on another resolution that does just that. it condemns a moss and it calls for a humanitarian pause to allow the un and other agencies to get the needed supplies into gaza. and we are waiting for that to play out. we know there's been a lot of negotiations, a lot of back and forth. we are expecting a meeting on that in the coming hour. however, we have learned from 2 diplomatic sources that the united states is asked to delay that meeting and to delay that vote given that president joe biden is on his way to israel for consultations. but we've also heard that the 10 elected non permanent members of the security council have been pushing for that vote to take place, especially now that the hospital it has been bonds that the school has been bombed . and so for there's clearly a growing sense of urgency among many members.
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