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we know what's happening in our region. we know how to get to places that others can know as far as instead of going on. the way that you tell the story is what can make a difference. the is really the oldest church and the goal is to strip where displace families are taking shelter. at least 16 people accounts the hotel mccrae, this is l. just every line from. so coming up it is impossible to be here and not to feel a broken heart. the un secretary general visits the roof of crossing an egypt
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cooling fire to ends, a gauze immediately more rides in the occupied westbank and is ready military offensive. and every few g cam kills at least 13 palestinian people. they are completely given off on any international efforts whatsoever to solve the as well as action in caps in childs across the field. provide charities like this, the, it's just post 12 with gmc, that's 3 pm. and gaza, we're going says, oldest church has been attacked while families forced from their homes. with sheltering inside 16 people have been killed. the greek orthodox church has often century to both christians and muslims. since the 12th century. religious leaders say it's a war crime that cannot be ignored. the savant is in gaza, are enjoying a humanitarian catastrophe. the un secretary general has intervened and visited the
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roof of crossing an egypt to coal for either to enter immediately. we are always listening, just bought a box behind these walls. we have a 1000000 people that is suffering in our mosley that says, no water, no food, no magazine, no flow that you use and the fires that needs every scene to survive. on the side, as we have seen so many trucks, lovitz, we'd watched us with full, with magazines, with the phone exactly the same scenes, if i need it on the side of the wall. before same days into the conflict and as well as bombardment has killed at least 4100 palestinians holding the food of the
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children. and then the occupied westbank. israel is intensifying a crackdown, killing at least one palestinians are poor getting begins on coverage. a frantic search through the rubble in the compound of one of the world's oldest churches, hundreds of palestinians displaced by the work being sheltering that they believed it was one of the last remaining places of safety from h rady bombardment. there were no weapons or anything in the church. children, i'm missing, we can't find them. we're still unable to find them during our christians left, i was in the church and all those who in the church were christians, enough is enough. we are really tired. the church of saint serious has a history dating back 1600 years. located in gauze is old city. it's only a couple of 100 meters away from causes baptist hospital, which suffered separate strike just days ago, killing hundreds. the guy,
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the last time it got stuck in the statement, the orthodox patriarch of jerusalem condemned the strike saying targeting churches and the institutions along with the shelters they provide to protect innocent citizens, constitutes a war crime that can't be ignored. these are 80 militaries not commented on the strike, which see the history of the is really government, you know, targeting more targeting churches and in the west bank included, you know, then it's somebody church and the m was, was attacked in 2002 during the 2nd uprising, the church itself sustained damage with the building next to it destroyed. many of those sheltering that had fled northern garza, after a warning by the israeli military for residents to escape for their own safety. but this latest strike echoed the statement from the un early this week that no place
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is safe in gaza. pole going out to see you let spring and david betray us. he is a retired american general and the full, the director of the c i. he's co written the book conflicts the evolution of warfare from 1945 to ukraine. he joins us live from washington, dc. thank you very much for being on al jazeera. if i could begin, as well as defense minister has reiterated a ground invasion could be imminent. but how big a risk is that for his royal to go into gaza on the ground as well. he mentioned the book that i wrote within robbers, baron roberts, of downgrade, and one of the greatest historians of our times in new u. k. in the world, he and i sat down and compared what could lie a hand for israel and what would be an extraordinary challenging scenario. and it's hard to appreciate. in fact, how difficult this would be. we've discussed described it is fiendishly difficult.
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urban combat is always challenging, but when you add the presence of over $200.00 is really hostages. you add in a, an enemy who's willing to kill himself to take is really, is with them. a movement that, as you know, is founded on the idea of destroying israel and killing jews, as we saw saturday over a week ago with her risk murder, barberic, exclusive, over 1300 is released. and this would be a very, very challenging mission. keep in mind that it took the rocky security forces 9 months to clear a similar city most, all of the islamic state, other terrorist elements, obviously, extremist, with support of the us. the is really, is, are much better. they have a lot more capability. but nonetheless, you, if you truly go into destroy moss and i'm not saying that they will. but if you do that, you have to clear every building, every floor, every room, every cell or,
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and every tunnel. and that tunnel complex underneath goes to city is very extensive . beyond that, of course, the homos terrace are known for putting headquarters underneath hospitals in mosques, and so forth. so you have a real challenge for an army, for the israeli defense forces that are trying to observe the laws of land warfare and trying to minimize the loss of innocent civilian life. but which inevitably there will be, as well as very considerable damage and destruction. but just to feel its to facilities and to civilian infrastructure. so just the magic course of the l in gene mission and this just all the tunnels. can you just tell us how difficult will it be for them to clear all of northern cancer, which is, i guess the mission that has been stated by israel to this point is to eradicate from us. but that is going to take months if not years, shortly. to go through all of those buildings, you know,
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room by room building 5 building tunnel by tunnel is again, very, very challenging. i just lay that out obviously. but i wouldn't actually identify admission that is even more challenging than i'm sure that the military leadership of these really defense forces is discussing with prime minister netanyahu. and that is the question of been what israel does have the capacity to destroy the military term, to doctrinal turn. that means to ensure that the enemy cannot accomplish his mission without re constitution. but what is it that then keeps come us and be as long as she hod from reconstituting more importantly, really what is it that will administer the territory and not just provide humanitarian assistance in restoration the basic services, but the reconstruction of the new measure, infrastructure reopening in schools markets, and by the way, reopen in schools without education, the teachers, young children,
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to kill jews. and then also they will have to carry out will essentially be a quite a hard edge counterterrorism or counter insurgency campaign to ensure that her moss and these law made she hugged, cannot come back because inevitably there will be remnants and there will be attempts to reassert their influence and guys into re take control of the territory because the in israel, as a so said that they intend to dismantle, not, not they, not only to destroy him off, but to dismantle the political wing of mazda as well. yeah. okay. job, i didn't touchstone this when he was in israel earlier in the week. what lessons can be learned from american mistakes that were made in afghanistan and iraq. i do really plan in very rigorous detail the day after i experienced this actually is a to start general during the fight to baghdad. the invasion i was the commander of the great 100 and 1st airborne division we live or in the 1st major city in iraq.
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it was the city of knowledge of those, you know, the holy of city and she is long, tough flight for several days. the enemy collapsed. we took over a city of about 400000 to that time i called it my boss. and they said they had good news. bad news. the good news is we own dodger. what's the bad news? he asked. we are not sure. what do you want us to do with it? and we ended up. we had no one to whom we could hand it off. uh and that would be the situation in guys that but on a much larger scale in a much more challenging scale. because you don't remember that the people of a rock. yeah, we're actually happy to sit on who's saying go, they were actually welcoming to us until we then made some mistakes in that post complex phase. but then when we got to baghdad and toppled the regime, the bureaucrats did not stand there post. the police disappeared, and so you end up owning again, you're an occupying power with all of the responsibilities that that entails. so
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this is, this is the even more challenging mission to the military commander. i can tell you, you know, they can, they can destroy and loss as you know regularly. it may take a long time. mm hm. it makes you, it will be very destructive, very damaging. there will be innocent civilians and there will be heavy, friendly casualties as well. yeah, but the real question is, who the end comes in and forms the interim international authority or whatever you want to call it? because clearly, israel does not want to re occupying guys in was even cautioned not to do so by president biden as well. yes. this is also not just solely about israel and gaza. yeah, i mean the us, it could potentially get sucked into this conflict more or more. every day we saw the u. s. navy, and the zip code 3 miss housing. the northern rid say, i mean, how concerned should it be about this escalating through that completely out of control? i should be very concerned. i mean that's what, again,
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what military and policy makers get paid to do. you'll also seen that some drones were interested up in that were apparently attend headed toward the us forces in iraq. of course, we still have thousands of forces and a rock at the request of the rocky government to help the rocky security forces. keep an eye on the atlantic sheet on the islamic state, isis, and we also have forces in northeastern serious still working with our local partners there in this area and democratic forces to do the same thing. of course it was those forces in the rocky defense forces that actually cleared this lot make state but defeated the caliphate. but there still are remnants, there are essentially insurgent and terrorist elements in those 2 locations. and then there are other challenges that could be so obviously this is why there are 2 carrier task forces in the greater region. this is why there's additional air power, higher force protection alerts and all the rest of this. okay, thank you so much. that is david trice, baton, american general, and the full,
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the director of the c. i thank you. could be with you as well. has stepped up, right? its own towns and cities in the occupied west bank at least 12 palestinians were killed on thursday and will pictures of confrontations between palestinians and is riley forces have been posted on social media. the like this finance happens in the area of hebron is rarely false as also forward with palestinians and the show for the refugee camp and occupied the east jerusalem. the currently no reports of casualties which else drafted as that the notions of refugee camp with more details join is inside the lower cents, refugee camp, the trucks you can see behind me are endeavoring and we're going to be moving some of these destroyed civilian vehicles that you can see this areas go to numbers, smashed calls, and that's because there's only
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a few hours ago that is ready. policies like this time scenes of destruction in various areas within the camp. we understand that at least 13 people were killed here. those these ready polls just came in to no rush. i'm around 3 am on thursday morning. the people live here say that they estimate that they've been up to 200. he's right. the soldiers that came in, they destroyed 5. we understand homes, they say we're going to have civilians, we know it's males politically, policies to destroy the homes. of those people who they think all fights is. people here i'll do knowing that. but amongst the same people killed 7 of them with children. 2 of those kids only 10 years old. so yeah, you can imagine the people who were trying to pick up the pieces and all very angry and date, some of them that we've spoken to want revenge. they obviously angry about what's
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happening and garza, but they're also very angry about the, what they say all the conflicting and effectual efforts of the international community to stop israel, the and it's on slow. all of the goal is a stretch out of co since that on slope solacido. so i'd say since those come us attacks inside israel, we know that it's around $900.00 people have been arrested from the the occupied west bank. we understand that there were at least 10 people from this refugee camp that were taken alone last night. so yeah, another indication of the kind of step up and security measures that these riley's of taking in the build up to what we on the side will be some sort of a mandatory opperation inside garza, but yeah, these are civilians is a civilian property and the pictures that i hope you're seeing on your screen of the type of stipend straits, in this case. you know,
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there are 13500 people who live in this particular refugee camp. and there are times like this was the way across the occupied was fine. i think you should be clear just the view, is that on familiar with this region? when we say we don't talking about tense, we're talking about people who believe today for decades, for example, since 1948 since the 1967 will. so these are homes, homes, this property that, that has been destroyed and it would not as whole be inconceivable. we would see, you know, in the hours in the days and the nights had more rates like this, by the is really minutes. we just heard in the last 10 or 15 minutes, a statement by the idea of saying the say they last or one is ready, soldier was killed in this operation. inside this camp we're expecting funerals for us at the civilians that were killed here in the coming hours and one can already expect some very angry sayings and a let's to into the situation and occupied east jerusalem. we have friday. prayers
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have taken place. is there any forces having pose tough restrictions on the i'll ox them. all skin prevented many from entering. mama jim june isn't occupied east jerusalem to friday. prayer has just let out. as you can see, the worshippers emerging from the moss confound. we're here and out of his alley square, just close to lion's gate. now it's estimated, there's only been about 5000 people in deluxe. the most compound here today, the trade usually that number is around 40 to 60000 people. so that just goes to show how much you were a presence there is here of worshippers at a time of tension. when people are worried about what might happen to them. if they come out, you can see the increased security presence behind us. there's at least 3 separate check points that worshippers of had to traverse in order to get to the ox and loss . compound is one outside there. there's also one just over here leading into the
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most compound. now, in the last hour, we saw some worshipers that were denied entry. they weren't given a reason. they tried to set up and pray out here. some of them were allow 2 others were not allowed and were made forcefully to move and they were quite upset by that . now we've also seen several people rejected. we were not told today if people weren't allowed in free as by age, but we did not see a huge contingent of the younger worshippers trying to access this area here. today, i spoke to people here. they talked about the mood. people are worried. i spoke to a shop keeper a little while ago. he's told me that he has his son with him in his shop, his teenage son, because he's still afraid that if he comes out, he will be harassed. he will be targeted. we've heard the past week several times, palestinians in this area that are being arrested that are having their phones inspected and taken away. i also spoke to a woman a short while ago,
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who said that he's extremely depressing to see the old city this empty and also to see you have up to must come compound. so empty, she said it is almost like there's no lights here, so there's almost like there's no so she said, even in the days of the corona virus pandemic, it felt like there was life. it felt like there was a soul here. so a lot of concern, you'll see the worshippers, they are filing out. many of them that i've spoken to have said that these really security forces have made it much more difficult for them to access here. we know that there are worshippers it twice to get it from the occupied westbank. they couldn't. we know that there were squares that try to get into this area from neighborhoods occupied east jerusalem. they weren't allowed people very worried at this time worried about what's going to be happening in the days to come. how much i'm just, you know, occupied east jerusalem. the still ahead on the al jazeera, we'll have continued the special coverage of the conflict and cancer. as it inches, it's 14th day the
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the color that it remains very hot across the good parts of south america. we have got some violent stones rumbling away just around the that is the sort of power required. pushing down towards a year ago, i saw them pass off for sale for the south mid twenties. that full point of service between these 2 for a i see going to the mid thirty's, that in a month now. skits right of showers up towards the north west. of the continent, more of the same as we go one through sack dated will change in conditions. really, if the truth be told, mean while we have to tropical systems affecting the carrot band, we have a little bit of wet weather just making his way towards the wind was pushing across into the lee with barbados. just taking a glancing blow from tropical storm making his way in from the atlantic. it is late
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in the season to get named storms pushing for it. but this is what we have. we have but trouble still, tabby, which will run up just to the east of the lee with push out into the open waters of the atlantic. and then on the other side of the region, we have how we can normally making his way towards by california. so that will cause some flooding here as we go through the next couple of dies. now the way we kind of afraid is for the northeast corner of the us. so as long as spells of freight moving across that is the side of kind of the down the operations but dry. i'm right to the west of the assessing the discussions as agents we used to say that is about 15 percent of which are smuggling is going to die. examining the headline 12 percent of the global population is responsible for 50 percent emissions, which has created this crisis, exploring abundance of 12 clause programming, designed to inform the move to face identify the way my story was,
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i felt that it was important. i did fax on algae 0. the the you'll what you'll just hear a reminder of our top story is the ssl. it is hardly s strikes have it. the oldest church in guns are killing 16 palestinians. many families had been sheltering in the church. of a full 1000 people in the enclave had been killed in the past 14 days. the human secretary general has visited the roof of crossing to gallons of the qualified to enter. immediately. he said, meaningful numbers of trunks should be allowed into these
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a few minutes here in catastrophe. gutierrez said he's working with egypt. israel and the united states to limit the restrictions and is ready. forces have stepped up. raids in the occupied west bank and east jerusalem, at least 12 people were killed on the 1st time that takes the number killed in the past 2 weeks to why he want. well, let's bring it in. tell us in the engine list honey, when she gets you into a slide from hospital and con eunice in the gaza strip, anticipating another day of really unless bombing there can you just bring us up to date with what is being hit and just how many more people have been killed, sofa this done, well, yes, there has been a very, very tough that has been very tough time for palestinians live in and in, in the north and part of garza. and does it govern the rates on the southern part of the golf district? other than the, the relentless, massive attack, so late last night. and early this morning to separate the attacks on to
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residential homes. one another. and on the are more because treating garza city, bringing 5 a story, building on the heads of it's of the people inside of it. we don't have much of the details about the re, about the, the era strike, as it's hard for machinery and equipment, and paramedics and civil defense to get to the area. gaza as of this moment is considered gaza city as a closed military zone, as there is a massive air is dry skin. busy and on the other, a tax took place in, in hon. you and is earlier this hour bringing resulting in the 22 people being killed on more than 70 injuries. it's important also to point out that within the vicinity of this hospital, a drawn fire 2 missiles into a very crowded and densely populated area on right on the road leading to
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the entrance of the hospital in any one familiar with this road. leading to the entrance of the hospital knows how crowded it is. so these 2 missiles are fired on at the residential home. and it, it is at this moment we're expecting the whole residential home to be destroyed by, by another, by another error strikes. it's in earlier you were at a make shift cam fluid, displace people that had been forced out of their homes in the newest. can you just give us an idea of exactly what it was like that when you visited? yes. well, the, the, the systematic mass of air strikes the attacking, gaza from north the south. what, where anyone familiar with the, with military terminology? no, this is a kind of of carpet bombing mass bonding entire areas. lift people without a choice but running to other places, seeking shelters. now we know is really armies warren,
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residents of the northern part and gaza city to evacuated the southern part of gaza . yet to find themselves. they're finding themselves under heavy bombardments, both in the city of rough island, the city of how new and is resulting in large number of people being killed and large number of injuries. so the purpose of this then was to accommodate people who did not have a place to go to. we're talking about at least the $310.00 set up by joint effort between the to wait the red cross society and the united nations relief program in the city of hon. eunice. each 10 accommodates between 10 people to 50 and people. if you do a little math, this results in the large number in that open area. now these, this roughly a newly established for g counsel, complex all the essential needs such as water and food supplies,
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and medical supplies, let alone other necessities need to sustain out sustained people in, in that area. unfortunately, the seed of brings bad memories are from the 1st macbook. okay, thank you so much, honey, that is honey, a. she but for us and con eunice in garza. but 2300000 palestinians trapped in garza desperately need food, water, and other basic supplies. today's trucks have been chewing up on the egyptian side of the board of waiting for permission to enter. as soon as i could is there, you know, uh we are inside drop off dressing and then we are the only tv channel with permission to build on that one. uh yeah. as well. what about in the city? yeah, this is the back of the egyptian gateway. across it on the where there where concrete barriers, preventive people pass on the inside the outside. yeah. i see. yeah. and the, this is the main role that the union and by con, voice, a deliberate 8th of guys is there any rates have left large holes in it was making
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it impossible for bosses or 8 drugs to use the home for the additional funding are kind of thing that he's been that mover them. so it was who the and with the i function and have the models. that kind of it is still not known if the different authorities would allow the trucks in use today. you're in oklahoma, accept people doing their operation by doing nothing, nations and, and there will be a conference by the us to discuss the plan for the annual deduction. elliot, we are also expecting teams from the owner work to arrive to make sure the crossing is ready for the 8 to go along with the hose and grow it. another problem is the delivery over the, sorry guys wanted to get back to you and will that you will conduct talks with the dimensions on your wall officials and the is what you decide on the truck that um uh heavy a default that has some of them according to the un, it's the 1st bedroom, humanitarian age consist of the window trucks out with a trucks. that's where i agree, i get to enter it, but still we don't know exactly what is onboard main stroke. started as will it be minutes and only your thoughts supplies you one has not had started with all the
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but the guys a step needs everyone thinks on what would her food fuel medicine and medical supply that met the guys that needs to be given everything as because it has not been a while as we get there, also need to send some wounded people to be treated in egypt because the health sector shouldn't be overwhelmed with something and cannot keep up with the huge number of injuries for you and can listen to the situation in israel now stephanie deka is in the is riley city of jaffa. it's usually bustling population of israelis and palestinians. riley's that has now gone silent. we've come to a job for to get a sense of how people feel. here it is essentially a mix town between is really policy and is really how this thing and workers here and also tourism is a major source of income. but everything pretty much. a lot of shops are shots, there's no one in the restaurants. and what it's striking is that nobody wants to talk to us, the palestinians. we've tried to speak to tell us they're afraid to express
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anything on camera. this is also in line. there's been a rest of any policy you know or is really policy and that has shown supports with the policy is against what israel is doing in gaza. one woman we met from steroids, she sheltered at home with her family for 3 days, didn't dare leave her house following that attack by him. us also didn't want to talk on commerce, saying she was waiting for the war to end. and actually one man, very aggressive came to us and also as well, you know, why don't you tell the truth, the media is against israel. what they did to us was barbaric. and he said, the problem is that we are too nice and we need to deal with them in a much harsher way, referring to the policy. and this is the sentiment on the ground here. incredibly, 10 people are free to talk. a lot of them are on behalf of a lot of his ratings. the feeling of rebec.
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