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that the fraction is already starting the g 7 in the us on one side showing the end, the brakes on the other. i assume there is a huge piece of that to happen via the stores on talk to how does era the, the trucks carrying vitals, humanitarian. i begin entering, guns that through the rasa. crossing with egypt, the until mccrae, this is al, just here alive from the also coming up. as the crossing opens, egypt is hosting a summit to discuss the war on cancer and seek ways to de escalate. the complex of wanting to evacuate aid agencies side palestinians have been told to leave
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a major hospital in kansas ahead of a possible is riley attack. and some us fries to us citizens who'd been held captive in kansas up to be being taken from israel. the, it's a g m t, that's a live in a in in garza, in 2 minutes, harry, an aide is finally being delivered into a garza through the rafa crossing in egypt. it's taking 15 days and intense into international diplomacy, but now trucks from the rid crisen carrying food and medicine are on the move. a mouse is 20 vehicles that are going in on saturday is not clear how many more will be allowed. and now 8 agencies say vast amounts and needed to ease the humanitarian catastrophe, brought about by israel's complete siege of guns of 2300000 people continue to
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enjoy a heavy bombardment. the military has won the eloquence hospital to evacuate. hundreds of palestinians had been killed in the past 24 hours, the total number now above 4200. on the as riley side, 1400 has been killed. 200 captives remain in kanza. but to us citizens have now been released by him us. they were afraid following mediation, if it's by cut off. well, ellen fisher joins us live from occupied east jerusalem and helen. first of all, on the rough across and can you just explain to us what the reaction has been via to i finally getting into cancer of the well as far as the israeli side is concerned, it is being reported in the media, but with no comment, we knew it was coming, there was an indication on the us embassy twitter feed about 2 hours ago. seeing that the roof of crossing would be open for some aid coming in at 10. there was no
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indication at that point whether or not jill nation, those would be allowed to leave, which is something that they've been talking about for the last 10 days or so. 20 trucks coming through. it's a very small amount and normally through the roof for crossing there's around $600.00 trucks, which you might have to do. you need every single day. so if you consider what has been lost over the last 14 days, because of the fighting that's been going on, 20 trucks is less than one percent. and of course, the need for that humanitarian need has gone up exponentially because of all that has happened. and so there is a great deal meet for not just the medicine that is coming in just now, and the small amount of food is also coming in, but also water and also fuel. now it's understanding that these really upset that can be no fuel going across. and this was all meant to be in place about a week ago. but there was some issue over how the truck to be monitored to make sure that there was no weapons crossing the border. those issues seem to be an address in the last 24 hours or so. we know that the us has been working very hard
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with the, the us appointed ambassador on july, the tearing affairs, doing a lot of the heavy lifting after to bite and agreed with these really wood cabinet to eat, could gwen, he did say it would be around 20 trucks initially after his conversation with the egyptian president. so it appears that these 20 trucks from the red cross right present in egypt have crossed the border. but what is next, and which is more important and seems to be as might be able to fill in more detail . and that is the fact that there are a number of un lori's ready to cross the border as well to bring more help. and, but of course, they will only do that if it is safe, if they are able to do so without putting their, their staff at risk. because the united nations have lost a number of their employees over the last 14 days. do you so much for that update that is ellen fisher for us and occupied east to jerusalem. well,
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let's spring and tell us in the engine list honey of an issue, but he is joining us from the roof of crossing. now can you just give us an idea of exactly what is happening uh there as i go through? yes, don wave reported to live with from the roof, a head crossing and refresh the city. this is the southern part of gauze district, the only gate to the outside world. and we are anticipating the arrival of humanitarian aid to gaza. so far, the talk is about a 20 truck for him and a 3 and aids. and what has been confirmed to us and i was just there, it's only medical supplies and food supplies. there are no fuel supplies coming in today. i repeat, there are no fuel supplies coming in today, which is which makes it hard for hospital to sustain itself for the coming few days . we know some of the hospitals, at least 7 of them are out of service due to a shortage of, of fuel. and 5 of them are completely out of service. the remaining 2 are running
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on a very low capacity. one generator, which uh for the, these 2 hospitals to shut down major departments of the health facility. now the mechanism that were talking about here deals at 20 trucks on the gyptian side, are going to be allowed to move into an area between the diction gate and the palestinian gate and then unload the humanitarian aid. and then once again, being transferred to the united nation, designated the trucks. and from that point, these are trucks will be a driven to united nations where house across the gaza strip. and then from that point will be distributed to a designated areas. now the lack of a fuel is just making it difficult now for people everybody was waiting and concerned about because this is a vital elements of what's going on. so the damage that is has, has been costs for the past 15 days is very, very,
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the tremendous and the 20 trucks are just so little compared to this amount of damage. the palestinians are really frustrated here because there was a talk about a 100 trucks and it took the 3 or more down to 3 days of, of links the negotiations on not was 30 a notifications and the face of this a human, a tree. and the crisis and at the end were only 20 trucking a loud and given the approval carrying medical supplies and food supplies only, honey, you've been living this over the last 14 or 15 days and you've seen up close. exactly how di, of the situation is within gas. so can you just give us a sense of just how little at, how, how little this, these 20 trucks will actually do for the, for the dying needs. that is, in gallons or at this point in time. and in terms of, of,
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of technical intervention, those a 20 trucks are going to cause little change in the situation of palestinians live in. in garza the past 16 days. and the damage caused by the ongoing mass bombardment and its implications, our boss and those 20 trucks are not going to change. we can, for example, and we've heard, we have confirmed resources in different parts of the dogs. their people are drinking their, the water because of lack of access to drinking water. other people started to, i have some point food because they don't have access to a fresh bread then don't have access to markets to buy their fresh burst of goals or fruits. there's none of this happening and so on. a been touched to affecting every other aspect of life, but the worst among them is hospitals. it's just the,
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uh, the 7 hospitals are out of service. they actually turn into large mores. they're not operating. we have one more hospitals being worn to be completely destroyed, just adding more pressure on the remaining costs. those that are already author rating beyond their capacity $10.00 to $20.00 times beyond their, their, their capacity. so in terms of change, we're going to see a slide to change because these aids the approval keep a link to the process of, of negotiations and the link. the process of verification by these really side, because according to a statement made by d is real time minister, the dental 18 of these 8 to reach any of homicide. members, i don't know about the much about the process. how are they going to verify? but it will only make it difficult for people to access these a human attorney and it's, it's interesting to see how the united nations will process. will it play itself out and respond to the emergencies and the needs of the palestinians living in
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garza. okay, thank you so much for that. that is honey of issue before us at the roof of crossing on the gaza side of the boat. well then why a cup of tea is a spokes person with the international federation of red crossman red crescent societies. he's with us live now. thank you very much for joining us from what we understand these are rid crisen trucks that have gone through the crossing. is that correct? can you just explain what is in them? yes, good morning. absolutely. do addiction requesting trucks where you position at the boulder for some days now? i did with question have been working, coordinating with the i'm just interested in government to to coordinate the age that was coming of older. so as to your question was saying, essential boots for now, essential medicines, hospitals, and food. we also heard that no fuel is getting in today. why is that?
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is that a deliberate choice? it's difficult to tell. we see if you as a buy to item as much as food and what to because as it was said to speak, to allows hospitals to run. it allows a will to push cations to run, and people are back in water, their liking of electricity in the hosp to, to be able to come to the surgeries, to the people that are in just to die tonight. and, and we, according to fuel, to be able to access together as well. can you just explain the process how the i to how these trucks with checks? was it only a gyptian side, or is it happening once they are in dallas or and who is actually doing the verification of what is inside them? don't have the information on the verification, the other side, the judge is diction requesting that because the one coordinating of inside the 8 will be built a comfortable there. and as of course one, it will be the same. federal agencies will be in charge of actually distributing
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a relocation to a truck guys and then distributing 2020 trucks. do you know if any more going to get through? no, we don't have the information and we we, we are calling for model august. the 20 talks is it is a goods and the end of a welcome step forward. any talk he's welcome stepped forward, but we know that for 2000000 people, this will clearly not be enough for the needs got out and get out. so what we're cutting for is for the safety of the people that will be delivering the 80 to be that will be accessing it in for a regular pipeline or a being able to and bring together to be able to meet, told and need you to sign so i gotta, okay, thank you so much for your time. uh, that has been my cup of tea a spokesperson for the international federation of red cross, and reed crisen societies as well. we now joins biologist here as diplomatic. it is a james buys and mach own jones, assistant professor of mentally studies at home on specifically for university of
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festival. i just wanna talk about the fact that no fuel is getting through and these 20 trucks mock and we've heard how buy. so that is just to keep hospitals running and fuels fuels generators. the generators requires that the to, to, to power the hospitals. that power is needed for life saving operations. the refrigeration for any number of things. it's absolutely essential. and we've seen videos, for example, of surgeons conducting operations using that phone light, which is already ridiculous. but at some point when you're in our field, you wouldn't even be able to challenge your phone and use your phone like so the, like a few is going to be a mess up really important contributions to the current, you know, to monitoring christ and cost like a few was simply just a, you know, it undermines this kind of provide the provision of aid which is important. but at the same time, without the fuel, then the distribution of the aid is only going to be so effective. and it's not forget, this 20 chart is going through even with 200 trucks. that's the most efficient, right. so, so we're arguing with almost creating about this 20 i, that's a,
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some sort of victory when even the full amount of 8 going through the $3000.00 tons would still be very limited. and there's no timeline such or no sort of way for the roadmap that discusses not only the, the, the kind of supply of the further amounts of aids in those charts. but whether or not those trucks would also contain fuel. how long can cause a survive without fuel? and at the moment, i don't see any discussion about the actual, the provision of fuel being on the table, which is really alarming. yeah. and james, what do you make of the fact that there's no fuel going in a, do you think that that would have been a deliberate decision? so nate, when president biden did this initial deal for the 20 trucks, the is right, the prime minister's office put out a statement saying that they've done a deal to lexi and we also have medicine and feet food. they didn't mention in that statement fuel, so they put my knowledge, they've never given permission to fuel launched. certainly only humanitarian agencies of the you and, and all those are pushing for fuel because as mocks,
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you said it's absolutely vital to the operations of hospitals, but also to pumping of water on the side of the nation. if you were trying to deal with the problem, the people drinking on the safe water, we have just the 20 trucks now on sources from the u. n. say they are still hopeful . these are red crescent trucks. they're all un trucks. that the, the reason i'm told it's a reach database is 45 kilometers away from gaza, pre positioned plenty of 8. now 3000 tons of 8. they really could provide plenty, plenty into in, in, in, in, into gaza. but it's whether the permission comes and i think 2 things to say on that one the you and i hope that now there's a system. and israel believes in the verification system, but the aid could start to float and bigger numbers. but on the other side, the initial deal with president biden was just for 20 trucks and that was with the direct involvement of the us president. what is it going to take to get anymore? and yeah, exactly. well, i guess that is the point of the summit of that is being held by presidency in
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cairo today. i mean, do you see any, any, anything coming out of that? i mean i, i think the, the summit as mentioned earlier as important as getting people together in the same price. but at the same time we have to bear in mind. i mean cc is taking the lead on this. but how much of this summit is to actually try and just ameliorate the problem, get some aid through not enough aid. that doesn't necessarily, you know, contribute to the creation of a ceasefire, which would be really important at this point. but also how much is it for a domestic audience we have to look at has been practicing all. jared has been protesting, cairo is even in protest in the gulf. right, so the egyptian president also realizes he has to be seen by his people to be proactive and trying to find a solution or some form of solution that guns even if it's a sticking faster. so you know, i'm a bit cynical about the summit. i think it's important, but i think we have to understand that as motivations could also be to kind of mitigate against domestic descent. so because at the end of the day, again, with when negotiating about things like a and a potential ceasefire, that's a really good not gonna just address the structural issues that one, you know,
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of the occupation. but to how is that, what are they going to bring to the table that for example, will diffuse. israel is concerns about guns. i mean, we've had so many comments from is right if i should cut officials. but basically, a clint equates or advocate phone ethnic cleansing of the guns and strip down the island was on the same as field cities in egypt. right? you know, they've got this kind of narrative or literally wanting to push out johnson's right . this is an incredibly strong narrative. what was the agent that want that, but what are they able? what are they gonna bring to the table that will actually diffuse, that is rarely narrative. that seems to be quoting for what amounts to a genocide and gaza. it would take a lot. yeah. it's james, this will happen is happening only 12 hours or so. maybe not even that since the 2 us hostages were released by a boss. how much do you think that that had a role in allowing i to go through this morning? well, certainly we know that the negotiations have been going all along in parallel and we know that it's extra state lincoln was here in doha,
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dealing with the country. governments who have the intermediary role here with him us at the same time as he was talking about potentially guessing aid in and, and, and then suddenly present bite and was talking about the 2 issues together. whether this just you, of the 2 captives being released is linked to this, or whether it's just a coincidence timing that is not really clear at this stage. it's me, i think, puts some problems in front of is around the head of the ground defense. if that will be other countries that have captives who will now see that there is a route out and will not want to ground intervention. but coming back to that conference in colorado, it's talking about things, but it's certainly not talking about stopping around defensive and we may well have a situation where, you know, you get some a trucks in. yeah, fine. and then the bump up and starts yet again, as we have saying this morning already as it has gone through the both of them. when we go to cindy mccain, the director of the world food program, she comes to
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a slide from cairo. we have a conference that we've just been speaking about of global leaders is taking place . thank you very much for your time here on al jazeera, 1st of all, how much work has gone into just getting these 20 trucks only 20 trucks in the gaza? me? well, it's been a lot of work and we're grateful for the 20 trucks. but this is, you're not, we need to make sure that we have sustain shades to access through that, through the borders, to be able to feed the people that we need to feed. people are starving to death right now. cindy, can you just explain your role in getting this ident and, and how you were trying to push for more to get into cancer, to be by me, executive director of the world food program. and we, we, i, this is what we do. we feed the world and prices situations and in other situations as well. we already have a team on the ground and, and what we do is make sure that we can get no emergency rations in but more rashes
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that are also sustained and also be able to give money to those who can then biases on the market. none of this is accessible right now, and we're running low on stores both, both in our warehouse and for us. and this is the actual stores for people to go buy stuff. so, so this is a critical mass right now we've got to get our get more trucks and he's 20 our grades. and i've been assured that we're going to be able to starting monday to get more trucks in graduate. but we'd like to see it a little quicker and certainly in a more sustained and safe manner. what is the hold up now that we've seen the 1st 20 going, why counts another 20 going in the next few hours we, we know that there is a huge build of all the supplies, all by that is sitting at nearby, certainly 40 or 50 kilometers away from the roof across and what is stopping that from going in today as well? i think that's a question you would need to ask you, gibbons or the united nations in one way or another. we again, my,
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my whole purpose of being here is to make sure that we can get the food data again . and that's what we've been working on. and today we're seeing this thing a little bit of moment. i'm hoping this the peace conference has some, you know, gives us some help in this and making sure that we do have both sustained access. and i'm, i'm hopeful the injections have been very helpful and this time for me and they continues to do so. so i understand you've got a team inside guys of what have they've been telling you about just how died the situation is a 15 dies into this. yeah, it's dire. i mean, is it, natalie? is there no food, but there's a water is, you know, there's no electricity, there's no fuel. and that combination is not one catastrophic practice to lead to more than just star mation, but disease as well. so all of us do, who do are you driving the emergency i right or the emergency situations like this and work these work in these countries that need us. um,
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want to make sure that the world knows how important this is that we get in and that the world knows how important it is that you support organization is not just like ours, but other so that we can continue to do this work. do you feel that message is actually getting out to the well that we thing rallies and protests and vigils held for the people that stuck inside gaza? do you think that is working to put pressure on the lead is to actually take action here. we, well, everyone i talked to is certainly aware of the a b as in aware of the situation, but you are right. i'm not sure the entire world is paying attention. and we do need to remind people that, that if, if we can get in the, and our phones the same way, not just our organization, but others, well, there's millions of people inside there that do not know where their next meal will come from. so that's why it's so important that we go in and, and stay, and to make sure that we can continue to solve trucks and supplies that. now you'll,
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and kyra does a summit happening, the presidency is holding today. what do you want? what concrete things do you want to come out of that? sometimes we want a peaceful way to take our, our food in our trucks in. and we want to make sure that once the trucks are in, that the food goes to where it should actually go. and we have mechanisms in place where we can track and trace what happens to our food. and we can also make sure that the beneficiaries and then they're the actual beneficiaries that should be getting it. so any kind of den version would, would be very minimal in this situation, but i got to remind people, this is a more zone and things happen. you know, so we're hoping that we can, we can just do our job. how confident are you that you will get those commitments from the summit to die? i'm hoping i'm very i'm, i'm the journal optimist. so i'm hoping we do get some today, but yeah, we'll wait and see. i'm watching it like everyone else is. yeah. what is,
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what is one thing that is going to make an immediate difference inside garza, i mean 20 trucks is nowhere near enough. 80202000. to me i, i can't give a number i prior to the war. i have been told that as many as 400 trucks a day we're going through. so there is the capability and the ability to get to get trucks through and that you know, in a much more sustained and larger manner. so i, you know, i'm, i'm like you, i'm kind of waiting to hear from my folks on the, on the ground, tell me what, what's actually happening and where they need more pressure. and then that's what i'll do. okay, thank you so much for your time. we know you are extremely busy that as in the mccain, the director of the world. so yeah, my pleasure. thank you so much for joining us. thank you. ok, we're going to bring back, you know, diplomatic hit of james buys and mark owen jones. thank you very much. what did you make of subjects to what cindy had to say there? well, i think it was interesting that she said the potential for devotion was minimal
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because that is one of the things is come up from these righty side 2 things. one, they wanted to know what was coming in to make sure the weapons weren't being smuggled in and these i come boys. but clearly you've got the egyptian authorities that and you've got the you and you've got the right presence and lots of humanitarians. so that would it be not very odd thing, but the other thing that you heard from these righty side and from president biden is that's none of this aid could get diverted to her mouse. she says the potential for that is a minimal. uh so i think that that is important. um the problem i think that they face even if he was, she was saying potentially to get more or more aid in is how you're going to distribute this, read it safely. when the bombardment continues. seems to be a little bit reduce perhaps in recent dallas, but the book above and is continuing to be seen as striking. you know, in the law style while we've been on the. yeah, exactly as, as we have seen through last evening and i know early this morning there was
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intense, intense bombardment of the gaza strip. what does that tell you? aids coming in the bottom is that still flowing on guys? a mock i what it tells me it is at the moment 8 comes with the side of shelling. and how is that gonna immediate concerns that israel is a good faith extra in these negotiations? you know, if, if 8 is coming in, which is one thing, it's not necessarily going to be as effective because it's going to, you know, create difficulties and distributing the 8th and even storage. you. we heard from one of your correspondents, but the aide is going to be delivered to warehouses. we know in the past, that is we have not been afraid to target schools and, and you and designate sites. what if one of those shelves was to hit a warehouse full of 8 as well? you know, i think without any security guarantees out any poof, a cease fire, the and the continued shelling during this time a just think these old points to the fact that is or it will be for her line, is in the is ready government, which appears to be most of them right now, if it to be trying to send a very clear message, which is that this isn't the end of the story when it comes to our ground operation . at the moment we are just diffusing things for the purpose of politics, maybe to,
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you know, a piece the us and a piece, some of the allies. but that's really it. i think you can't have a good faith distribution of 8 when the people to shoot me an aid in addition to the people living back on the threat of being killed. ok, thank you so much of both mike and jen. so we really appreciate your input into this developing story as we have seen, it has finally finally gotten into gaza through the roof of crossing 20 trunks at this stage from the ridge prison. on monday, the union is hopeful that it will be able to get its own trucks through that crossing. and as we heard from the world food program executive directive, i also it pushing so many, many more. we've also been covering the summits that is being held that is underway now in cairo, that's presidency, is holding with a number of world leaders as well as the un secretary general, antonio gutierrez, who old pushing no doubt to try and get more light into gaza. will tell us any
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man has been killed in jericho as is ready for it has carried down rides right across the occupied westbank. 53 office has been arrested and vehicles we use which are holding a bunch of a refugee camp in jericho. confrontations broke out and the cat between is riley soldiers and palestinian use and good find the bombardment of cancer. easy for palestinians have been killed in the west bank since a most attacked israel on october. the 7th. on let's go live now to hold on a delta made. she is in ramallah and as i mentioned the, these are risk of being ongoing in the west bank. many, many more there in the last few hours can just bring us up to date with a licensed the surgery. they have been overnight and pre don't raise they don't. over in the occupied westbank, one of them just north of ramallah in a village called iraq. and people there say that that raid was just put up simple
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as simple because every rush is the home of a senior member of how much who i've been deported. it hasn't been back since 2010, and they said that a number of people wherever it were detained to about 20. but what probably seen is complaining about is that israel is not only going after people, they say how much members across the occupies with back back is going often any use who is showing any kind of sent visit for guys a bid by protesting on this truth or voicing their opinion on social media wins since over the past 2 weeks. more than a 1000 people have been the change and that number we keep our reporting on is on a daily basis. it keeps on increasing and increasing. and i think the more it is more goes on, the more people will be the thing. and people who would tell you that the
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conditions inside is really presence that deteriorated very much. you have the, are listed in prison society who says that ever since this started october says it is 7, there has been harsh treatment of the detainees inside the presence of some talk about a ration water ration electricity, uh no outdoors hours anymore. so certainly that is i climbed down and people see that as collective punishment. okay, thank you so much so that, that is what i have delta made for us with a view from inside, from our, in the military wing, or from us as relates to us citizens taken captive during its attack on israel, on october, the 7th, the mazda and tools and now with is radio stars, he's the cosign for guides says they were released following mediation. if it's by kata, she has tons of has more students. and natalie went on with us, produced into the custom.

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