the text at this moment on fiber. optics are kids already? people in a state of shock. people are very scared, very stress. a lot of people are saying the country contents are tax laws. i'm shocked by our government. it's just care about the sides. a region really in pain and one step from the precipice. those are the words of the you and chief antonio terrace to an ocean diplomatic mission to help you also 2300000 palestinians and living on the israel seems in constant forming. so what kind of good terrace hope to achieve this is inside story, the

hello again. i'm james by the you and size of vital role for the 2300000 people living in gaza. the majority of them depend directly on the 8 it provides about the total of suffering. and death is listening daily. israel is bombing of the besieged enclave is killed more than full 1000 palestinians. many of them children, the us in western leaders, a rear from the support israel with washington punching move, funding for palms and other weapons. the deepening catastrophes for you and set for general antonio terrace, of the region on his own diplomatic mission. his 1st priority to try and get some relief for the people have gone. so yesterday i went through the rough up bottom and across there. and i saw a paradox, a meditative capacitor fee plays out in real time. on the one hand, i saw hundreds of trucks to meet with sold in the very central supplies. on the other hand, we know that just across the board of the 2000000 people,

we don't want them. foods for electricity and maybe see children, mothers, the elderly, the sick say bucks on one side, empty stomachs on the other. those blocks with the move as quickly as possible in the massive, sustained and safe way from egypt into garza. it when the truck oh boy of egypt and rep classes is moving to day and they want to express my deep gratitude to it for the central role. egypt is playing in this regard. but the people have got so many of the commitments are much, much more. it continues the liberty of a to gaza if the scale that these mediates and we are working non stop. we've all part of these the relevant to make it happen. few down the personal commitment of antonio. good terrace transmission. but what obstacles does he face? and how important does the un for the people have gone?

so we're discussing all these questions and we'll with our panel of experts soon. but 1st, let's hear from someone who knows the set country general and the delicate political situation well fronts his permanent representative, the united nations, a bus that nicholas the review, a bunch of the thank you very much for joining us all now to 0. let's talk about that a that's been allowed in so far, just 20 trucks for 2300000 people. how concerned this fronts remain about the humanitarian situation in gaza. thank you for having me, james. i think uh, we remain very conscious of course we the humanities, the situation and get this situation and get sizes these us the uh, i want to uh, explain this alteration is because of the terrorist attack by have us on october 7 against east right on the 8th, or stop in there. uh and uh, do 2 of those that we are just, you know, we do, we huge crises in uh,

in guys. uh. and we need to address that. it might take your situation is uh dire. of course, the ongoing need falls by the answer could you is, you know, run by the united states by my administrator as well. and she has been, uh, in the region a week ago. she's back to, you know, re, john, she's knowing cable. we're just asking for your money to him because 20 trucks have been able to cross the rough uh, uh, points which is doing bits of use the saw so many not. so we need to much more off . the question is both to know, which is why the 2 addresses security threats because they have us and these should not be negotiable. but on the other hand, it off or not, you might be different. but before or the civilian corporation, i guess uh, trust the city as respects the geneva conventions and uh, put in place. uh would you go to your manager in paws,

which is up. so do you need us to do this? how about that? you say that uh israel's response should not be negotiable and you've strongly supported like other western nations, israel's right to defend itself. but is what we're seeing really legitimate defense or is this brutal collective punishment and revenge with saying now legitimate defense law on uh, i saw the stories that curious where it is. uh, the, the entitled to go after how nice 0 is the best. the super young must be projects to and this is an essential we need to have a for the implementation of virginia met conditions. this will go to the international unions in law and we need the human age an access to be around the the and as a we need to protect the city. hands on the menu. stupid young in these enclave. oh, yes. uh so uh, this is up. so that you can, you know, transfer the extremely vigilance on these uh,

requests about so that we sold the site country general amount and you know, very well go a place that 2nd generals that normally go to the edge of an active was own um, to rafa on the boat was gone, so that was a pretty bold piece of public diplomacy. was it not? i think uh, we should also pull this off. the new a good. the rest uh is uh is on. the drama is in care. oh uh, is trying very hard to drive to manage an excess to guys. uh, that's his job. uh, environment. i think we should really uh get back to the super easy going to, to make sure that this body makes a decision up on the show both on the this, the legitimate defense issue containing a uh county. do you have tech by i'm us because this is the reason why we all that today. and also a public thing, civilians grunting you manage it and access the,

the risk between the junior conventions. and uh uh, so uh, referring to the 2 state solution because at the end of the day it would not be resolved by your manage it access and the refund issues. we need the policies to see the pay, but we need to re loss or treating the mutual these these process. they didn't want since 2014 not well that spring. you know, a panel of guess to discuss this for the month. so schumann is the human rights advocate and resident garza, he joins us from con eunice. francesca albanese is the u. n. special replica on the occupied palestinian territory. she joining us for washington dc. and don't to tell it. rosetta is the senior crisis response advisor, amnesty international. she joins us by skype from london. one, welcome to all of you. if i can start with you months, so on the ground in calling eunice, in gaza. 20 trucks came in today,

just 20 trucks, with 2300000 people. tell us what is the feeling? what are things like right now and gaza? thank you for having me go. when the people here heard of that for me. 20 products payment. honestly, there was a few legal for span, a shock. why did the same time feeling that we are all alone here? is this the international community? the, the, the power. so be it or not caring for disobedience here in guns. we are in the 15th day of this aggression, all the civilian population. over 4000 killed, 15000 injured electricity has been shut off. walter tops have been shut off and now we are getting only 20 trucks supply and 0.0 to a percent of the needs. after 15 days, normally,

the crossing border gets at least a $150.00 trucks every day. multiply that by the 15 days with both supplies out to that. hundreds of 1000 are displaced and consuming the supply of nations and other peoples and other peoples area. we are looking here a disaster. yeah, i'm looking here at the human genocide of the 21st century and speak are there. they are both mad dog and the of the unmanned. so just to be clear, even though that was this opening of raffle, very briefly for 20 trucks, the bombardment continued even then, and it's still continuing, i believe. yes, that just before we start to get a quote to that, jason, to end screen, besides what i'm saying right now, both hips by to uh, suicide to at the bottom. but this is in bowie. it does not stop. and

also the people here when big, when they understood what were in those 20 trucks, they were like, they wouldn't show up, i mean, throw the gloves masks, coughing, drops. so, i mean, this is really the most important thing to provide to the people of guns at the stage. okay, let me bring in francesca albanese now i need to make clear, i think, as we're discussing the un, an aide and it's role. you are a special raffle to, but we've been speaking about the sex general view and you don't actually work for him. we need to be clear, your completely independent and your role in your appointed by the, by the team and rights counsel your reaction to 20 trucks of a simple math one truck for a 100000 people. good morning and thank you for having me. i don't think that my reaction can be any different from that 12 months or saying it's, it's insufficient and it seems sufficient and see now that wait,

although it's necessary. so let me be clear, your money dire need is needed and it has been needed for a long time, even before the 7th of october, because goes as being under her 16 year of brocade, which has already pushed 2200000 people in a very critical situation, but the fault is the most important thing is that a ceasefire is declared. there is the need to stop the killing of civilians that has already made 4000 victims. the mine do this is almost the same amount of people who have been killed in gaza in 53 the prior. um the conflict and um, and did it further loss of life must be stairs. at the same time, you want to turn in a is necessary, it needs to enter from on caustics. no, just guys are including the, the crossings. nice ro,

erin and editor, and get him shut on. there is no reason why these should not happen in the what are you also think that what is needed from the international community and this un security council, which is optim actually responsible for the maintenance of peace and security globally. he's a real boss, the principle that human ended stands on this issue because it's reading know totally medians of people in jobs off into the office. but it's strengthening peace and security for old policy continues, right? and he's, and unfortunately beyond donor teller, you represent them as the international you, our war crimes investigator, what do you make of the fact that even well they let the 8 in, they can, can you the bombardment of gauze and it's continuing as mine. so said in the last few moments. well, 1st of all, um on, on the a, because this is really important to the 20 trucks of age that went into guys that

did not contain fuel. in so far as we know. and fuel is essential to produce electricity, which is essential to purify water and deliver worship to people. there is a public health crisis studies unfolding and godsa with washington board. this easiest because people have no clean water to drink. so it's a, you know, it's the 20 trucks. he's not just the, at least you'll call little when 10 bottles or what was missing, which is so desperately need to bombardments some been going on daily. i've also heard from our field worker in guys a short while ago about a new air strikes that have been covered out. thousands of civilians have been killed and injured. the tragedy is that guys on civilians do not know where can they go? what can they do to protect themselves and their childrens because really know where is off limits myself and like leaks of bidding,

investigating cases where entire families were white. tote, people who had left their homes because they felt that their homes were in the areas that were more exposed, closer to the perimeter with this well. and they went to stay with friends and relatives in the area squared there in which they thought were less exposed and best places, way bombarded, and they end up being killed. as bombardments are indiscriminate, indiscriminate attacks are war crimes. and these were crimes are being committed on a daily basis and the reaction of the international community is changed full. because while it's absolutely true that israel has every right to take proportion of measures to protect its own population and to respond to attack, it does not have the right to indiscriminately attack civilians who are packed into

one of the most densely populated areas of the world. and who have no possibilities to leave that area or to do anything whatsoever to protect themselves because the bombardments have targeted every area of the guys a stretch, every type of structure. a small house is big building schools and hospitals for that matter. so people really don't know what to do and, and the bombardment, so continuing in the absolutely agreed to, you know, most urgent, urgent measures a square these an indiscriminate attacks to and immediately and, and the efforts of the international community should 1st and foremost be concentrated on exerting the necessary pressure to ensure that all parties play with international humanitarian law, the east valley is not above the middle and it should not be allowed to behave as though it is. which unfortunately is the case. because 15 days into these

indiscriminate, bombardments that have kids been injured so many civilians, the international community could not bring himself to a to, to the mom, the indiscriminate attack stop. that'd be pretty. yeah. let me bring in that. and so now i'm one of the points that you made don't to tell that which was the importance of fuel. clearly there are only, i'm not all the hospitals, many of us, but small pricing. those that are operating risk rely on electricity from generators that need fuel. and it's going to tell us said, in order to operate, dissemination plans, pumping stations, you need fuel for vital water, give us some more detail on fuel and also on, on, on volta, i mean, i hear a month. so people are even drinking sea water or on safe water from agricultural wells. that's a great point. actually, yesterday i was when i was living on the phone with the cdc and she asked me, what is the main item if you had the choice that must be available in these trucks that come in to the us or the cable to my mind immediately was fuel,

um and i was shop again. maybe i maybe uh, maybe i should get. it seems like it's going to be one going thought was here, knowing there was no fuel coming in. that's it. that's something. see it, because right now there is no other constraints. you haven't got the people who live on electrical generators that's running on the fuse, edit the cell, jump the next week. i can relate those as an example for the hospital, but i'm beside that. i know the so like i said that the side of nation that's uh with regards to the water out from personal experience, from my family's experience. so the people, i don't like know everyone who is suffering from some kind of guy, just the boat, a track to the disorder because of the i'm fluid was the old thing take. well, i mean it's a, it's a lot like like like i totally get the she just said,

the why fi or my biggest to be like know is the always if i get time demik with a very crow bits closed space c, a m oak street, thoughtfully 1000000 suggested in open stories on the street in crowded homes with no medication locally in walter and fluids that is being what's going on up as well. yeah, and we are in a crisis. and really, that's what you should, francesca, you, as well as being the special wrapped proper to you are a lawyer by profession weld house organization is documented $62.00, a tax on health care. a area is 29 health care facilities in particular, and 23 ambulances of these will crimes. i don't think so. yes, because our hospitals should be, should be protected at all times. and look, i think that here we need to, i fully agree with that. do not tell us analysis,

and we need to maintain that and the capacity to analyze each in each incidents. but also consider the, let's say, the brother, the brother picture just so what's going on in gaza because again, we have an international community and particularly western countries with riley to gays, to and that's why you were running around each row and defending and repeating like i'm i'm sure the east rose, right to self defense, bought it. we shouldn't forget that the population of guys up is a quasi just protective persons under international law. each one is occupying garza israel. he's keeping god under siege and has the responsibility to where the policy is and also what do we have seen that you said the bone being all there being bone beings on hospital. and by the way, there is one which is which is likely to happen as we speak because the other codes, the hospitals in gaza. we just go ahead and finish entering $400.00 people,

including $12000.00 displeased as being ordered a to, to about to 8, which is impossible, that the hospitals are full of people in the in that will kind of be moved. and, and so these are clearly war crimes and which is enough to stop what is or has started on the 7th of october because the under, you'll pay can i so of wanting to where rodney paid a mouse or east room is, is a, is pursuing an entire campaign which seems to be intended to the population gossip because it's bomb being note from north to south bank. so so or during, they've got to ration all $1.00, median palestinians from, from the north and part of the oldest street which, which is the largest and leading to. and i must ment, of people in the,

in the south this maya mount with new cleansing. and there is any intent that has been declared because there are volumes, officials who have gone on record saying that the guidance should go to the sinai. that there are housing units and there they will receive all the assistance they need. but there is also the president of under the fog of war is one has already committed that the cleansing of the bodies being ends in 47194719497 under 50000 and body seen in, you know, mostly more the from modern ne, each row where the displays begin, refugee's and we're never allowed to return. and the same thing in 90. 671250015 ends up being the i've been displaced and never allowed to return to the guys a street, the west bank. and these terms are that this is a pretty now was well on we, we were all the same thing. some of the things we're discussing today, our aid, and also the role of the united nations. and as you be aware, the u. n. is operating on the ground with the red crescent,

one of the few organizations operating on the ground. this was noting that's 17 unreal stuff, that's the agency of the u. n. that deals with the palestinians have lost their lives already. so we know there's very good humanitarian what going on from the united nations, but also we've seen up to get this very limited 20 trucks in personal diplomacy from us. that country general, pretty bold in the sense that he went to the edge of an active was on this just listen to what he said. behind these walls. we have 2000000 people that is suffering in our mosley that says, no wall to us. no foods, no magazine, no flow that you use and the fires that needs every scene to survive. so these blocks are not just the trucks that live flying. well, that's the site because you generally speaking,

before those trucks were allowed in. but it is worth noting don't attend that, isn't it, that it took him a week even to cool for a see saw. are you happy with the way the secretary general's been performing? well, i mean, ultimately the united nation is a collection of states and the secretary general is a proceeding all the what is, i mean, you know, inter governmental body that with many different opinion. and i think that works very important to bring to the attention of your viewers with regard to somebody's already an age. he's the reason why does this trick depends so much and you, many, terry and age old times already before the 7th of october is not because the got some people don't want to work. it's because in order to have any sort of the economy existing, it does require that there be free movement of people and goods with the gases trip being under a full blockade for the past 16 years, which is vital, controlling everything that goes in and out. it is impossible for the guys

that to develop any meaningful sort of economic and therefore the regime, you know, before these, these ostrich situation that's on that's being unfolding since the 7th of october. it's the premise, the 2300000 people should be kept in a, in a situation where they are prevented from developing an economy to sustain themselves. and they shouldn't be for ever. depends antonio many terry, an aid that can be switched on and off the wind, which is what has happened now. and which has happened many times before. can i bring in front jessica on the you and this response? and what did you make of what we saw in the security council? the us vill wielding it's vito to stop a resolution allowing humanitarian pauses for a to be distributed. and the us and pastor, as i understand it said that they,

they'd be towed because the resolution would get in the way of diplomacy. does that make sense to, you know, it doesn't, this is not the 1st time that to the what comes out from the that say the behind the, the behind the scene works of the, of the un. and the security becomes any particular doesn't make sense to me. or to any reasonable pass, and just for the benefit of the viewers we, we have to say that again, there is a, a, the u. n. r, a providing critical assistance as they can on the ground. and there are barriers actors, w, w, h, sho, unlocks wsp, trying to mobilize, there is an entire you enjoy your community trying to push for us. and why is the solution which cannot happen without disease fire, but there is the political action of and particularly the just security gone. so which has been finalized once again by the us,

because the us is the only state which would be good. there is or shouldn't even russia and then you k, upstage. it's and again that there is this misunderstanding, this clear misperception of what's going on in the ground because there is the argument, including here in the us is that this is a ceasefire. is a, is a political the know that was the because it means it's constraining these rows up into 2 protective citizens. now how long they're the, what is what he's doing in killing thousands of speed is destroying entire farm in east 47th pharmacies has been cancelled from the civil registries. 5 generations of people out destroying and guarded neighborhoods. hospital side schools is going to bring this security and protection to these writers. let me, let me bring in a month. so at the end of our discussion, then when you hear what's going on, yes, the you and is doing good humanitarian work. when you hear the sort of discussions

going on at the security council, you hear what the us is doing, tell us what people in goss make of that the people and gaza. the believe that the us will supports israel in what, what, what ever they do that there is no belief in the system by the people of gods, or there's nobody in the building all the security council. this is running a people get us up. uh say one sentence that we all line only one god and god will hopefully take us to i better place in the near future. people here are not putting any vote on the, on the us or the us or the w actual. it seems that it's, uh, it's a strong each week world and is that's why the u. n. was created to do such things. i mean, it's more people like our 2 guests that i'm,

that you when ended up with you actual and the security council with manual cloud, russia now it's pretty human beings out there. i think that wouldn't be what it is right now. and so thank you very much and please cite, stay safe. thank you to all i guess i'm so schuman francesca albanese and don't to tell roberta if you missed the stop of the program, you could always watch the whole thing again and out. is there a dot com if you have to use on this discussion or by any other aspect to the goals it will post your comments on our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. or you can use the site fully known as twisted now. cool. that's why we are at a inside story from the james space and the whole team. and though ha, stay safe. i'll see you soon. from headlines to hollywood is the media secret women revolutionizing how we create

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