a thought provoking on, but the patient doesn't have time to wait for that next. truly unfortunate. but there are no quick wins and events or research hard hitting interviews. do you feel like america is the best thing to do since these days, or is it just a different full? i think that democracy is a process basically, entities do you feel that the fraction is already starting the g 7 in the us on one side, china and the brakes on the other? i assume there is a huge risk of that to happen to the story on told to how does there a region really in pain and one step from the precipice. those are the words of the un chief antonio terrace to an ocean diplomatic mission to help you also 2300000 palestinians and living under israel siege and constant bombing. so what kind of good terrace hope to achieve this is inside story, the

hello again. i'm james by the you and size of vital role for the 2300000 people living in gaza. the majority of them depend directly on the 8 it provides about the total of suffering and death is lessening daily. israel is bombing of the besieged enclave is killed more than full 1000 palestinians. many of them children, the u. s. and western leaders, a re, a from that support israel with washington touching more funding for palms and other weapons. the deepening catastrophe is for you and set for general antonio terrace to the region on his own diplomatic mission. his 1st priority to try and get some relief for the people of casa. yesterday i went to the rock bottom of the crossing. there, i saw a paradox, a meditative capacity playing out in veal time. on the one hand, as i saw hundreds of stocks to meet with,

sold in the very central supplies. on the other hand, we know that just across the board of the 1000000 people, we don't want them. foods for electricity and maybe see children, mothers, the elderly, the sick say bucks on one side, empty stomachs on the other. those stocks 50, move as quickly as possible. the massive sustained unsafe way from egypt into gaza . at 20 truck. oh boy, of egypt and rep classes is moving to day and i want to express my deep gratitude to it for the central role. egypt is playing in this regard. but the people have got so many of the commitments are much, much more. it continues the liberty of a 2000 if the scale that these mediates and we are working non stop. we've all part of these the relevant to make it happen. few down the personal commitment of

antonio, good terrace transmission. but what obstacles does he face? and how important does the un for the people have gone? so we're discussing all these questions and more with a panel of experts soon. but 1st, let's hear from someone who knows the secretary general. i'm the delicate political situation. well, frances, public representative, the united nations, a bus that nicholas the review, a bunch of the thank you very much for joining us all now to 0. let's talk about that. a that's been allowed in so far, just 20 trucks for 2300000 people. how concerned this prompts remain about the humanitarian situation in gaza? thank you for having me, james. i think you're really made a very concept of course we the humanities, the situation and get this situation and get sizes these us the uh, i want to uh, explain this alteration is because of the terrorist attack by have us on october 7 against east right on the 8th, or stop in there. and uh,

do 2 of those that we are just, you know, we do, we huge crises in uh, in guys. uh. and we need to address that. it might take your situation is uh dire. of course, the ongoing need falls by the answer could you is, you know, run by the united states by my administrator as well. and she has been, uh, in the region a week ago. she's back to, you know, re, john, she's knowing cable. we're just asking for your money to him because 20 trucks have been able to cross the rough uh, uh, points which is doing bits of use the saw so many not so we need to much more box. so the question is both to know, which is why the 2 addresses security threats because they have us and these should not be negotiable, but on the other hand, it off or not, you may be different, but before or the civilian corporation, i guess uh, trust the city as respects the geneva conventions and uh,

put in place uh wouldn't go to your manager in paws, which is up sort of so you need us to do this. how about that? you say that the israel's response should not be negotiable and you've strongly supported like other western nations, israel's right to defend itself. but is what we're seeing really legitimate defense or is this brutal collective punishment and revenge with saying now legitimate defense law on uh, i saw the stories that curious where it is. uh, the, the entitled to go after how nice 0 is the best. the super young must be projects to and this is an essential we need to have a for the implementation of virginia met conditions. this will go to the international unions in law and we need or you manage an access to be around the, the, and as a we need to protect the city, hands on the menu,

stupid young indies. and claim though, guys, uh so uh, this is up so that you can, you know, probably be uh, extremely vigilant on this uh, requests about so that we sold the site country general amount and you know, very well go a place that 2nd generals that normally go to the edge of an active was own um uh, 2 rafa on the boat was gone. so that was a pretty bold piece of public diplomacy. was it not? i think uh, we should also pull this off the new a good. the rest uh is uh, is on the drama is in care. oh uh, is trying very hard to drive to manage an excess to guys. uh, that's his job. uh, in the i think we should really get back to the super duty guns here to make sure that this body makes a decision up on the show both on the this, the legitimate defense issue combining the county the tact. but i'm asked because

this is the reason why we all that today. and also a public thing civilians grunting human digit access for the risk between the junior conventions. and uh uh, so uh, referring to the 2 state solution because at the end of the day it would not be resolved by your manage it access. and uh, originally it shows that we need the policies to see the pay, but we need to re loss are creating the need of these, these process, the new ones, since 2014 not well that spring. you know, a panel of guess to discuss this for the month. so schumann is a human rights advocate and resident garza, he joins us from con eunice, francesca albanese is the you and special replica on the occupied palestinian territory sheet. joining us for washington dc, and don't to tell it rebecca is the senior crisis response advisor amnesty international. she joins us by skype from london. one welcome to all of you. if i

can start with you months. so on the ground in calling eunice, in gaza. 20 trucks came in today, just 20 trucks, with 2300000 people. tell us what is the feeling? what are things like right now and gaza? thank you for having me go. when the people here heard of that for me, 20 products came in on a say, there was a feeling of despair, a, a shock. why did the same time feeling that we are all alone here? is this the international community, the, the, the power. so be it or not caring for disobedience here in guns. we are in the 15th day of this aggression on the civilian population. over 4000 killed, 15000 injured electricity has been shut off. walter tops have been shut off and now we are getting only 20 trucks supply and 0.0 to

a percent of the needs. after 15 days, normally, the crossing border gets at least a $150.00 trucks every day. multiply that by the 15 days with bro supplies out to that hundreds of thousands displaced and consuming the supply creations in other people's food and other people's area. we are looking here at disaster. we are looking here at human genocide off the 21st century and speak our era. they are both mad to adopt and the of the unmanned. so just to be clear, even though that was this opening of raffle, very briefly for 20 trucks, the bombardment continued even then and it's still continuing, i believe. yes. that just before we start to the record, the adjacent to nc, besides where i'm staying right now. got hit by to uh,

suicide looks at the bottom, but this is in the way it is not stopping. also the people here when big, when they understood what were in those 20 trucks, they were like, they wouldn't show up. i mean, throw the gloves, mobs, coughing, drops. so, i mean, it is this really the most important thing to provide to the people of guns at the stage. okay, let me bring in front jessica, albany easy. now i need to make clear, i think, as we're discussing the u. n and 8 and it's role. you are a special raffle to but we've been speaking about the sex general view and you don't actually work for him. we need to be clear, your completely independent and your role in your appointed by that by the human rights council. your reaction to 20 trucks of a simple math, one truck for a 100000 people. good morning and thank you for having me. i don't think that my reaction can be any different from that 12 months or saying it's,

it's insufficient and it seems sufficient and see now that weight, although it's necessary. so let me be clear, your money dire need is needed and it has been needed for a long time, even before the 7th of october, because goes as being under her 16 year of brocade, which has already pushed 2200000 people in a very critical situation, but the fault is the most important thing is that a ceasefire is declared. there is the need to stop the killing of civilians that has already made 4000 victims. a mine do. this is almost the same amount of people who have been killed in guys out in 53 prior um the conflict and um and it's further loss of life must be stairs. at the same time, you want to turn in a is necessary and needs to enter from all caustics. no,

just guys are including the, the crossings. nice ro, erin and editor, and get him shut on. there is no reason why these should not happen in the what are you also think that what is needed from the international community and this un security council, which is ultimately responsible for the maintenance of peace and security globally . he's a real boss, the principle that even tended stands on this issue because it's reading know totally medians of people in jobs off into the office. but it's strengthening peace and security for old policy continues, right? and he's, and unfortunately beyond donor teller, you represent them as the international you, our war crimes investigator, what do you make of the fact that even well they let the 8 in, they can 10 you the bombardment of gauze and it's continuing as mine. so a said in the last few moments. well, 1st of all, um on, on the a,

because this is really important to the 20 trucks of age that went into guys that did not contain fuel. in so far as we know. and fuel is essential to produce electricity, which is essential to purify water and deliver worship to people. there is a public health crisis studies unfolding and godsa with washington board. this easiest because people have no clean water to drink. so it's a, you know, it's the 20 trucks. he's not just the, at least you'll call little when 10 bottles of what was missing, which is so desperately need to bombardments some been going on daily. i've also heard from our field worker in guys a short while ago about a new air strikes that have been covered out. thousands of civilians have been killed and injured. the tragedy is that guys on civilians do not know where can

they go? what can they do to protect themselves and their childrens because really know where is off limits myself and like leaks of bidding, investigating cases where entire families were white. tote, people who had left their homes because they felt that their homes were in the areas that were more exposed, closer to the perimeter with this well. and they went to stay with friends and relatives in the area code 3 in which they thought were less exposed and best places, way bombarded, and they end up being killed. a large mints are indiscriminate, indiscriminate attacks are war crimes. and these were crimes are being committed on a daily basis and the reaction of the international community is changed full. because while it's absolutely true that israel has every right to take proportion of measures to protect its own population and to respond to attack,

it does not have the right to indiscriminately attack civilians who are packed into one of the most densely populated areas of the world. and who have no possibility to leave that area or to do anything whatsoever to protect themselves because the bombardments have targeted every area of the guys a stretch. every type of struck to a small house is big building schools and hospitals for that matter. so people really don't know what to do and, and the bombardment, so continuing in the absolutely agreed to, you know, most urgent, urgent measures a square these indiscriminate attacks to and immediately and, and the efforts of the international community should 1st and foremost be concentrated on exerting the necessary pressure to ensure that old parties play with international humanitarian law, the east valley is not above the middle and it should not be allowed to behave as

though it is which unfortunately is the case. because 15 days into these, the indiscriminate bombardments of children enjoyed so many civilians, the international community could not bring himself to add to to the mom, the indiscriminate attack stop. that'd be pretty. yeah, let me bring it down. so now i'm one of the points that you made done to tell that which was the importance of fuel. clearly there are only, i'm not all the hospitals, many of us, but smaller pricing. those that are operating rely on electricity from generators that need fuel. and it's going to tell us said, in order to operate, dissemination plans, pumping stations, you need fuel for vital water. give us some more detail on you. and also on, on, on volta, i mean, i hear a month. so people are even drinking sea water or on safe water from agricultural wells. that's a great point. actually, yesterday i was when i was living on the phone with the cdc and she asked me,

what is the main item if you had the choice that must be available in these trucks that come in, the us or the cable to my mind immediately was fuel um and i was shop again. maybe i maybe uh, maybe i should get. it seems like it's going to be one going thought was here, knowing that it was your fuel coming in. that's it. that's something. see it, because right now there's no extra constraints. you haven't got the people who don't lie on electrical generators that's on a bones fuse. edit that cell, jump there next week. i can relate those as an example for the hospital, but i'm besides right now. uh. so like you said, you said a nation that's uh with regards to the water out from personal experience, from my family's experience. so the people, i don't like know everyone who is suffering from some kind of guy just to bring the track to the disorder because of the i'm to it was the old thing take. well,

i mean it's a, it's a lot like like i would like it put me going to she just said the why fi or my biggest to be like, know is the always if i get time demik with a very crow bits closed space here amongst your thoughts, i mean, then suggested an open stories on the streets in crowded homes with no medication, no clean walter and fluids that is being whats going on up as well. yeah. and we are in a crisis. and really, that's what you should, francesca, you, as well as being the special wrapped proper to you are a lawyer by profession. in the world health organization is documented. $62.00, a tax on health care. a area is 29 health care facilities in particular, and 23 ambulances of these will crimes. i don't think so. yes, because our hospitals should be, should be protected at all times. and look,

i think that here we need to, i totally agree with that. do not tell us analysis and we need to maintain it and the capacity to analyze each in each incidents. but also consider the, let's say, the brother, the brother picture just so what's going on in gaza because again, we have an international community and particularly western countries with riley to gays, to and that's why you were running around each row and defending and repeating like i'm i'm sure the east russ rights to self defense bought it. we shouldn't forget that the population of guys up is a go see just protective persons under international law. each one is occupying garza israel. he's keeping god under siege and has the responsibility to where to find his students in gaza. what do we have seen that you said to bone being all there being bone beings on hospital and by the way,

there is one which is which is likely to happen as we speak because the other codes hospitals in gaza. we just go ahead and finish entering 400 people, including 12000 displeased as being ordered the to, to about to 8, which is impossible. did the hospital start full of people in the in that will kind of be moved and, and so these are clearly war crimes and which is enough to stop what is or has started on the 7th of october because the under deal pay can i so of wanting to where rodney paid a mouse or each room is, is a, is pursuing an entire campaign which seems to be intended to the population gossip because it's bomb being note from north to south bank. so, so or during, they've got to ration all $1.00, median palestinians from,

from the north and part of the street which, which is the largest and leading to. and i must meant of people in the, in the south these maya mount with new cleansing. and there is any intent that has been declared because there are bodies, officials who have gone on record saying that the guidance should go to the sinai. that there are housing units and there they will receive all the assistance they need. but there is also the president of under the fog of war. each one has already committed that the cleansing of the bodies being ends in 47194719497 under $50015.00 is mostly more the from modern ne, each row where the displays begin. refugee's and we're never allowed to return. and the same thing in 90671250000, probably seen ends up being the i've been displaced. i never allowed to return to the guys a street, the west bank of these terms that this is happening now was well on we, we were all the same piece of some of the things we're discussing today. our aid

and also the role of the united nations. and as you be aware, the u. n. is operating on the ground with the red crescent, one of the few organizations operating on the ground. this was noting that 17 unreal stuff, that's the agency of the u. n that deals with the palestinians have lost their lives already. so we know there's very good humanitarian what going on from the united nations. but also we've seen up to get this very limited 20 trucks in personal diplomacy from us. that country general, pretty bold in the sense that he went to the edge of an active was on this just listen to what he said. behind these walls. we have 2000000 people that is suffering in our mosley that says, no water, no foods, no medicine, no food, no, oh, that's use and the fire that needs every sink to survive. so this deluxe, not just deluxe, they are a lifeline. well,

that's the site cause you general speaking before those trucks were allowed in. but it is west noting during the time that isn't it, that it took him a week even to cool for a c spa. are you happy with the way the secretary general's been performing? well, i mean ultimately the. ready lighting nation is a collection of states, and the secretary general is a proceeding all the what is, i mean, you know, inter governmental body that with a many different opinion. um, i think that works very important to bring to the attention of your viewers with regard to somebody's already an age is the reason why does this trick depends so much and you've any terry an age old times already before the 7th of october is not because the got some people don't want to work, it's because in order to have any sort of the economy existing, it is required that there be free movement of people and goods with the gaza strip

being under a full blockade for the past 16 years, which is vital controlling everything that goes in and out, it is impossible for the gaza to develop any meaningful source of economy. and that for the, the regime, you know, before these, the software situation that's on, that's been on the phone. think since the 7th of october, it's the premise, the 2300000 people should be kept in a, in a situation where they are prevented from developing an economy to sustain themselves. and they should be for ever dependent on humanitarian aid that can be switched on and off the wind, which is what has happened now. and which has happened many times before. can i bring it in front, jessica, on the you and this response. and what did you make of what we saw in the security council? the u. s. vill wielding it's vito to start

a resolution allowing humanitarian pauses a to be distributed. and the us and pastor, as i understand it said that they, they'd be towed because the resolution would get in the way of diplomacy. does that make sense to, you know, it doesn't, this is not the 1st time that to the, what comes out from the, let's say, the behind, the, the behind the scene works of the, of the un and the security becomes any particular doesn't make sense to me. or to any reasonable pass, and just for the benefit of the viewers we, we have to say that again, there is a, a, the u. n. r, a, providing critical assistance as they can on the ground. and there are barriers actors, w, w, h o, n y, w s, b, trying to mobilize, there is an entire human guardian community trying to push for. and why is the solution which cannot happen without disease fire?

but there is the political action of and particularly the security council, which has been finalized once again by the us. because the us is the only stage which would be called the reserves and even russia, and then you k, upstage it and, and again that there is this misunderstanding, this clear misperception of what's going on in the ground because there is the, the argument including here in the us is that this is a ceasefire, is a, is a politically know that was the because it means constraining these rows up. they need you to protective citizens. now how long they're the, what is what he's doing in killing thousands of speed is destroying entire farm in east 47th pharmacies has been cancelled from the civil registries, 5 generations of people out destroying and guarded neighborhoods. hospitals said schools is going to bring this security and protection to these writers. hi,

let me, let me, let me bring in a month. so at the end of our discussion, then when you hear what's going on, yes, the u. n. is doing good humanitarian work. when you hear the sort of discussions going on at the security council, you hear what the us is doing, tell us what people in gone so make of that the people and gaza. the believe that the us will supports israel in what the, what, whatever they do that there is no belief in the system by the people because that there's nobody in the end of the building. oh, the security council. this is what i mean. people look at as a, uh, a se one sentence is that we are line only on god. and god will hopefully take us to a better place in the near future. people here are not putting any vote on thank you . on the us or the us or the w actual, it seems that it's, uh, it's a strong each week world and is that's why the u. n. was created to do

such things. i mean, it's more people like our 2 guests and that un ended up with your choice and the security council with many of our russian notes, pretty human beings out there. i think that wouldn't be what it is like that man. so thank you very much and please cite, stay safe. thank you to all guess. i'm so schuman francesca albanese and don't attend roberta if you missed the stop of the program, you could always watch the whole thing again about is there a dot com? if you have views on this discussion or by any other aspect to the goals of will post your comments on facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. or you can use the site fully known as twisted now. cool, that's where we are at a j inside story for me, james space and the whole team, and though huh, stay safe. i'll see you soon. the

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