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and they also have pies and see architecture is used by r t o vitamin reveals the role of architecture in his reading the occupation. everything in this panorama is a technical tool within the architecture for the patient. just need to know how to decode the architecture of silence part of the rebel architecture series on how to jesse it. well, here's the launch and all that war on israel, the lebanese on group is exchange fund with these are in the military, but it stopped short of using the most powerful in this house and saw smoke. so what could happen if it launched the full offensive? this is inside store the hello again 9 james bays and escalation and skirmishes between his ball and these
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right. new forces is rising fields of a wider conflict. saturday, march the west. a recent fighting along israel's northern border with 11 of the 6 has been a fight, has with killed the uranium back group. and these rally been exchanging far across the board us into mass attack, southern israel on october. the 7th and the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu wound his brother against opening a 2nd waterfront with his royal nothing you all who said that would bring unimaginable devastation upon lebanon. victoria gates and b has all report of the personal possessions of people living in see many of sheltering in schools like this stuff to fleeing the homes in southern lebanon. fighting around the gold with israel has escalated since how much launched its assault on southern israel, on october, the 7th. the conflict between the palestinian groups ally and these randy army is raising fees of a wide hole that says israel is messing its forces for a possible ground invasion inside because a strip we are concerned and we are part of this battle. let it
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be clear that when it will events unfold and something arises that requires are in convention to be greater. who will do so as bullet is seen as a significant force and never known wielding both political and military power. that she and movement rallied public opinion against these radio to patient of southern levels known as to being founded in the 19 eighties and disabilities. rails withdrawal in 2000 has built a, has retained its strengths with financial a minute to support from a ran for ran, the group is crucial for detouring any attacked by israel and existing influence in lebanon. and the region as bola has highly skilled places, they help syrian president bushel alas, during the country civil war. and it's also known as reported to contain rainy and precision guided missiles. israel considers has bullet, it's most formidable. so since both sides foot to a standstill in
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a 30 full day long ago in 2006 and now with the united states deploying to aircraft carriers and several ships to the eastern mediterranean. the risk of an escalation and fighting in the region is growing. victoria gave some beef inside story let's bring, you know, a pedal of guests to discuss this further in athens is nicholas no attorney during editor in chief of the baby based middle east law dot com. and use website is also the editor of voice of his bullet, the statements of side house and astrology. and tell him eve, it's your he drove me founding president of the jerusalem press club. he's also todd colonel in these riley air force. and brussels is elijah back. the military and political analyst has covered military conflict in the middle east for the past 30 years. a will welcome to you will thank you very much for talking to us. and if i could stop, perhaps with you, nicholas did stay in athens,
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but you've been base for many years in a row to speak to people in levon and all the times where you'll permanently base. can you tell me what is the reaction? so fall from people ordinary people who speak to, to what's going on in gaza. well, i actually just return from to an easy uh where the outpouring of tunisians onto the streets and support of palestinians is tremendous. the largest street protests that they've seen since the fall illuminati regime in 201111 on and elsewhere in the air world. i'll let lebanese and narrative speak for themselves, but i think what we're seeing and me as an observer, someone 20 years and 11 on as, as seeing and speaking with friends and trying to find my way back there. right now is uh, is really uh, 2 things. one is great anger over the scenes that are unfolding over the death and destruction of great anger as well and frustration that there seems to be little to stop the devastation moving forward. and i think amongst lebanese friends and loved ones and colleagues, a great fear amongst many of them, you know, most of whom are,
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of course civilians or on affiliated or affiliated with political parties that have a quite different position than hezbollah do. and they are quite concerned that a devastated country which is currently levon on could seem even wider devastation if indeed the border skirmishes, which now many of us are considering a kind of the facto state of war. if those expand and if they do expand, i think the general consensus is that the destruction in 11 on and likely and is real and perhaps elsewhere is going to be tremendous, certainly 11 on. and that's exactly what these rallies have. of course promised. your, your, a former spokes person for his writing, governments, but you're also a military man. in the past, i want your assessment. nicholas just use the word skirmishes. other people say clashes. what would you say? how would you describe what's been going on in the north to this point? i think has been the most part of the actually is testing the water. we
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debate about myself, whether there was a mazda plan that uh, how much stuff this and then because by law moves in, when is where is uh, something in to the gods. uh, quite a mile, but this way or another. um, yeah, obviously if there's one that needs to show some sort of dorothy, but i think that's from the i said looking the ruins from and and so many different pieces globally can give was from my 2006. and then i think he said goes with those kind of a shows i want to call them the indeed uh and the whole thing is you will uh make that 1st move and then they play cause the lie on the days rarely . so it can i get your assessment, what you think is going on, cause it has been guessing slowly was slightly more than 10 since i saw today was
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the worst day of all. and so far in the north, i think has been that is already in the war, which these really is on realize the guess 1st of all or has been like that the right, the side taking the initiative and the ship out homes that is occupied by these relays and considered as a different knee surgery. as imposing a, not a spoken rules of engagement on these really candidate has the light expended the scope of it at that time looking area along the boulders with age red, which a 100 kilometers from the knuckle out to the amount of animal and all the boulders including to the go to the syrian of the bible. and thirdly, as will live in gauge and fighting inside the territory controlled by israel. and
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rather than defending it says, and then they've been nice. so, and that means for the 1st time in the history of the base, right in the box, it has to be moved to the other 3rd, 3 and not happening on the 3rd or 3 that is under the died of these read the army. because normally it drives that takes initiative to stop the war. sultani has the law has engage by mobilizing or the lead forces, along with the whole with that showing that they have it back, created all the training camps, old dominion free facilities, and leaving only the concentration area to engage with these remedies. that is an indication for the it is really mid threes. on the other side of the boulders that has the light is already actual and stopping with inside to get on with those. and now have expanded to 5 kilometers fixed, cuz the light is already blinding. all these really electronics or visions,
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there's capability by removing them, bombing them. so using the snipers, removing all the sudden, those surveillance cameras, the sensor, the spying devices, communication dollars, etc. that is forcing these really all me to rely on draws and on physically patrols, exposing them to hezbollah. a laser guided midsize and taking so far more or less for these really between kid and know that by stopping all this many pre authoration types of a lot have drawn 3, says 3 is rated division including spectrum forces to make sure that they are not going to die and they are engaged, they're forcing these really all me to create 2 lines of defense on the boulders
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with 11 and the whole has thought it already, but it's in a different way. okay, let me bring in nicholas on that because nicholas you literally wrote the book on the words of his bill as lead us. so can i perhaps give you the words of his bellows deputy lita? not even cassim shaking on cassim. we are trying to, we come this way, the enemy and let them know we are ready. he was speaking of the funeral for a fight to and he went home so that we're keeping 3 is right. the army divisions tied up in the north instead of preparing to fight and cause or exactly the point of the delight you just made. the it's but yeah, i would say, i mean 1st of all when you know we, we translated and communicated some of these speeches and interviews over the years, which i think provide the basis for the tactical and strategic moves that elijah and others are describing right now. that we're seeing, and i think one of the most important things, if you actually look at what has the bottle of leaders have said actually quite
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publicly or in private as well. i think what you need to do is a 1st order of business is pushed back against what, when you're a just said, which is that's has butler somehow is still licking its wounds from the 2006 war i think quite in reverse. that is regarded as a defined victory. indeed, that's witness that i'll let us call that, that's what you cited name cos, i'm the deputy head has called it that was actually viewed and continues to be viewed as a major strategic victory for hezbollah. and i would actually also agree with some of the analysts to say that that really marked a turning point. we're israel's qualitative military edge. we can see a steady decline visa v. the military forces that has been, has been able to build up, that they have developed through the war in syria where they are for it or against it. they have, they have extraordinary battle hardened experience there. and to say that they look back at 2006 as a kind of something that where they and it cost
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a tremendous amount. indeed, it's quite the reverse and has well, the leaders are actually very, let's say boyd by the experiences of 2006 and afterwards, in fact, they view that as having been a victory. that leaves the framework for what comes in what they call this next great war. if we're there right now, today, we are not at that moment, but i think all of us probably agree that they factors kind of that might spark this off or lead it to an acceleration into an even deeper conflict. are all building up by the hour. unfortunately, if i could bring you in yury, um do you do? yes. if you do sense, do you think is read is underestimating the strength of his bullet? no, no, i don't think so, but i think says bundle is on this amazing the strength of crystal and the fact that they look at the what's in there for us just have said about the looking
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at the 2006 come thing. there's a big survey reminds me of the egyptians, go as a to z, i'm all day uh, victoria and they're on the dial and down people. and the, if you remember, it started with them both the syrians and a junction statement caused by surprise. banning one week or 10 days we were in the outskirts of the masters and the v, but from cairo. now 50 user process. uh so the question is using these, as i said, the quantity angel, the office right is a declining. i think it was from us and probably for us, but i will find out very soon that this is not the case. and the idea is really the business and the, and the i,
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if i'm not mistaken, then the most from i'm so i'm pressing the button go for 17 use i believe. and the, if he use the boss being there, defend the 11 on, i don't think that the many 11 on treat seems like there. in general. the idea of the, this is a from ok, that is, or it is vacant, is like a spider's web page already except the rock. this is misinterpreting the democracies and they saw they looked at the protest. uh huh. here in the last 6, so 9 months, 10 the and, and to, to, to be a kind of the week and the visuals rather than seeing how, by brands these are the society. so they're going to test the game and i think they will be up to big surprise, elijah,
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i'd like to move on from 2006. but before we do that, that was a 30 for the full day war. and his boulevard some 4000 rocket. so i remember them to show rockets, not very accurate to tool just quickly bring us up to date. how has his bolos force? how is his weapons changed since 2006? since 2006 has the law whole life, i think you're on his way. there's nothing can be 2 things. first, these were you the air force. so that is very modern and they popcorn 2nd baby, unlimited support from the americans. because without the americans age read, we're never engage in a rule because the whole needs of lots of ammunition and a lot of money to talk about the, the fig direct for the economy in the state to, for. nobody would go to war without making sure that they wouldn't have
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a lot of money and they wouldn't be supported. and they created page as these are, it is always great to bridge with the americans and europeans to sign in 2006, the via all and to supply these really that for bombing because they need a lot to bump. i mean, it's not easy to bottom for 14 days, a small and safety like got that. and to achieve that can go for 1837 children and 1023 women. it requires a lot of effort to bring it in. and all of them now we move on by saying that his belie understood that and to compensate it needs a long range, my thoughts. and if we look at the distance between the colorado is that that is more or less 400 kilometers. that is, has, has been not stop fighting and launching a mid size from the voters, which is not going to be the case. because check engine light has moved outside the
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reservation area to take away from these right. and these cues of bomb being severed. the answer, which is, i don't think is going to happen to me because he is really where the bomb the villages anyway. so because of that has, will not need only this sense of thought, good taste instead of the way over the concentration of these really that's the economy. and critical infrastructure is in hyphens that that'd be with job 3 and 30, to 60 kilometers. and because of that, with all this precision long graph midsize as well, that needs to reduce the range of the massage and to increase the exclusion by having positon. oh, why don't terminal fix grows it for each my size. now people argue that the iron down would intercept. we've seen how they are and don't when flooded with besides. and rocket is not capable of intercepting 100 percent. breakfast is always between
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55 to 60 percent, which is more than enough for hezbollah, for 40 to 100 me size. and according to these readings, information has been a lot has to offer them 50000, midsize and rocket. and all these are all kids. have be modified with a bait she amount of money to precision rockets and we're talking about here to from $7.00 to $25.00. normally there's only, so i don't think just below is under estimating. these are really part 55 follow it is of course on the estimating the army it said when fighting man to man, because we have seen the invincible. all mean becoming very vulnerable. after every few hours of how mass attack and against the, the gas that division, and in few hours only making so many hundreds of soldiers as the
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hospitable patients, including full january. so because of that, and because the damage that is going to be inflicted off is on is right i, i think is there any needs to think twice before thinking i'm going to stop the fight thing against these. right. and i think is doing so because for the 1st time in the history of israel read because except to fight on a demon cation line is not exceeding a set of keys on it. and this ends imposed by it has the lot bye and no state to against the most file for me in the middle east in just a few days. so the drone capability tools, hezbollah, be on the shipment sides, the precision beside that can hit all the energy platform for hub or, or the air force image, right? when not only tripping the economy and there's a red. but when destroying it totally,
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even if i buy them with inject $14000000000.00 receive today the all no more rules and how fans image are they all stopping was sent to for the 1st time they. busy move to become internally displaced. this is not something very unusual for. these really is not to find the place for them anymore on the northern front. hasn't started yet. okay, let me bring in, let me bring in your eva. um, elijah paints, a picture of a very sophisticated military force. i'd like to bring up with you some reporting, which i think is interesting. comments from these ready, defense minister you, i've got aunt, he seems to be worried about his bottle. he says his bottle is 10 times stronger than the mice and all so i'm going to quote where this comes from the new york times. it says that's in the early days off to october, the 7th, mr. climbed the defense minister, apparently told us secretary of state anthony blinking, that he had advocated
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a pre emptive strike on his bola. but he was over ruled by all the is riley officials in your view. we'll see right. oh, wow. higher when to unhook a pre and maybe the at that k against is by when do the, the sort of leave and come us 1st and the key to has been that day. i don't share. uh, and i was a, uh, based investing all leak view of what's going to happen in the war, which has been uh for the simple reason that a different law size. of course, like the garage of me size and you're okay since it's a raw and he's right there going to cause us a lot of damage but in a few hours of such more and if you. ready are definitely in the day or 2 is when
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it's fixed on the button on such a, a dramatic uh, damage that nothing, nothing on all other liberties will rise up in all of that. but the whole world, we quoted for the stall and then we were in the system going on the spell uh, instead of the big. uh so i don't think it's for the beer for the product of or like a 2006. each one would be very, very dramatically different from the, from the, from the and as a, as for one to gonna say, uh yes, some people that is, oh, probably got himself believe that. uh uh the, this is the right moment is the, and we shouldn't say repeat the mistake when we come off that we let, takes the role and all myself and, and because such
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a huge thread. so his role and visual deed with it. now, because later from the even more difficult, um, i doubt because i says, is also the key to f as button a day. uh, and is dragged into war. as i said, uh the price, no one will pay a, with the healey withdrawal mazda again, the sorrow because okay, that passed away for me. i'm a business, sorry. uh and, and, and, and uh, but, but they leave us no other choice because they really uh take off let them out as human shields. and this is what's gonna happen. no, no, unfortunately. okay, well let's, let's, let's bring it nicholas on that. nicholas, what is your view? i mean, 11 is suffering already had that a pulling pull last and by route in 2020. it's suffering. one of the was the colonel that crisis. any nation in modern times has faced. not every one.
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definitely not everyone in lebanon supports his butler, they have very passionate supporters. but as you know, it's a very divided society. what would be the reaction in lebanon across lebanese society, if his is bullet, they'd get involved as well? again, i'm not lebanese. so let's let lebanese speak on behalf of themselves, but what we do know is previous and there's a long history that shows, i think that yuri is making a grave analytical error here in assuming that it is a real implement it's operational fighting doc for known as a da here doctrine which consider civilian populated areas and civilian infrastructure as law, whole enemy combatants and a wide destruction, as they've said they'll turn 11 on into a parking lot. if they think that that's going to then turn to other communities against 11 on we have example after example. so the last 203040 years, we're actually the opposite happens. it leads to national solidarity and support
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against an outside enemy. that's so widely destructive. so the notion that lebanese are going to rise up wildly or massively, and create a kind of military balance against has butler is dangerous fantasy in my view, simply because of the history. but again, lebanese can speak to that better than i can. i think also there's a grave error here in thinking that it will just be a bunch of rockets. for example, this is not 2006. there are very likely going to be significant ground incursions by hezbollah, which had been telegraphed intel a scope the last 15 years. i'll also remind everyone that it was more than 10 years ago, but it has been less successfully flu. a drone on detected over israel's main nuclear power facility and demona undetected. and that was a long time ago. the conflict with the, with, with the discussion that i'd like to bring in elijah one more time. if there was a ground intervention of ground invasion by israel,
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do you think his bullet will act a brief on so please bevin. i don't think it's going to be immediate reaction to into fee. on the contrary, i can share your thoughts, share some insightful information from my sources within the group. so i think today it is in terms of a lot of advantage for as rare to break into guys and to be engage in guides. uh. so the week of these really is all the lack of security, these really society has with his army and his intelligence, the forces and the engagement in god's dealt with all the might when it gave him the possibility for a heck of a lot to take advantage of the situation because it's an opportunity and then be in awful. i mean if it's going to be to a knowledgeable, that is going to be becky for both. but the question is, is, is why are ready for that is all the americans ready because they have also bases
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in the area and the are stopping to be targeted is ran a uh, a bed to have a mass in indemnity displays before being so that the one that, that's stopping to crumbling already there is no support for the government even the every day. so for everybody to support that then you know, but they've gone away the moment to kick him out of the government. so today there's a lack of security in his read off the what happened in gaza and outside gets out in the 1st hours on the 2nd to build a and this phone for this is going to be the barrier rate even more as $50000.00 people that be in the back created in the lot 70 it was from the boulders, would love it now and who are going to be if i created what is this, what these re to government promising to these really is bringing them from all over the world to give them security of course not,
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and when to bump stuff for they didn't know that he's going to count the long. but everybody's going to look at disagreements and add your guess from these. right, right. he said they love the word to defeat, to stop it because someone has need to bring everybody down the tree because they start to that. and they know what all the consequences that are going to be the treatment of what these are. and for the 1st time and it's live, so it's 1940 i elijah, thank you very much. thank you to our panel of guess. that's why we have to leave it. i'll guess today where you are, you drove me nicholas note and allows you back to me if you want to go back and see this. so any of our other programs, again, you can find them on our website, which is their adult calm, which is 0. it continues it's comprehensive coverage of the conflict 24 hours a day, including reports from all teams on the israel lebanon frontier. if you have any comments on this, so any other aspect to the goals. so we'll, we're waiting for them on facebook, go to facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. or you can use the platform fully known as twitter,
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