the latest news as it breaks kyle is what i can see over the balcony. yeah, i'm good. so was the palestinian residence about what time the game goes up with detail coverage around $60000.00 people have arrived here. they're afraid and many here are blaming bench. i mean, nothing you know from around the well joe biden was meant to meet with 3 out of leaders in jordan, but the essentially cancel i went to the us president was not prepared to call for a ceasefire. what can the united nation is due to end? israel's was gaza view and chief has pointed to clear violations of international humanitarian law. israel is suppose this refuse any talk of a c spot. so diplomacy stand, the trump gosh. this is inside the

hello. welcome to the program, and it's diplomatic attempts to end. israel is more ongoing as i have so far failed . goals were cced 5, an end is arouse bombardments of palestinian homes. well, for how much to release all his captives have gone on and sit on tuesday, the un security council held him open to pace on the conflict in his address secretary general antonio good tatters, noted how must have tons of october. the 7th did not occur in a vacuum and should be viewed in light of decades of occupation. his comments prompted a furious reaction from israel and demands, but his resignation. ultimately though, oh, permanent members of the un security council need to be on board for binding resolution to be passed, and i'm with such a deep divisions. what role can the un play in ending the wall? plenty to discuss with august. first, this report from sarah gil,

even who has ruled those with a watch of antonio gutierrez, the united nations secretary general. he was speaking at a security council open debate on the mid least. most of the discussions focused on is roswell, on gaza. gutierrez condemned to be a tax to mass carried out in southern east route on october the 7th. but he said he was deeply concerned about clay violations of international humanitarian law in gaza. the policy didn't. people have been subjected to 56 years of super. okay. think occupation, they have seen that land sadly, be followed by supplements and blake by violence, that economy stiff folds that people displaced and that homes demolished. not israel responded by quitting for his resignation. and it's foreign minister eli

cohen council, the plans meeting with him and that for the s g is blaming the victim. you are blaming is red. this is a your blood libel, this is a pure but blood label. and i think that the secretary general must resign in russia, china, the united arab emirates, an office quote for an end to the conflict with something absent from the us draft resolution describes we will visiting the store because yours is the key point here is a need for a swift ceasefire, the fact that it was not included in the counsel draft was a step in the wrong direction and could be interpreted as counsel support for israel's plan to conduct the ground defensive in gaza. the us says, humanitarian pauses a needed to allow aid into gaza palestinians. that's known enough. we are here today to stop the killing. to stop the mass that goes being committed against the police to young people. the ongoing massacres being deliberately and systematically

and savagely perpetrated by his right book of buying power against the british tnc . the indian population under illegal occupation must be stopped to national of the several sessions. the un security council has been unable to pass a resolution on the war with such deep divisions between members. effects the question, how much can the un really achieve? sorry, go for inside story. the . let's bring in august is stumble is richard folk, a visiting professor at a senior university and a former you in special reputable fully occupied palestinian territories. and tell of eve is raphael jerusalem. a, a form that is really intelligence officer and security on the list. and in manila is chris gun as a form, a u. n. releasing works agency spokesperson,

who's speaking today in an independent capacity, a warm welcome table. and chris, i'll, i'll start with you. how much influence can the un have when some of his most influential members are not interested in a safe spot? well, we also, sadly is very little. and when you look at the, is randy reaction to the very reasonable remarks of the united sexy general specifically said that there was a context of this fighting the so it didn't happen in a vacuum. and when you look at the fact that the, it's very informative stuff immediately cancel the meeting with him, as well as now said, it will refuse to give visas. so it is very official to do an official, including the highest amount of housing in the us system. you have to wonder when cents is going to provide you have a situation where diplomatically, so making perfectly reasonable remarks the us that the general finds himself projected by one side and on the ground. in the united nations least, most agency which i used to what finds itself completely on its knees. it's have

$600000.00 displaced people image schools, all searching thousands of itself have been withdrawn to the south and such as part of it stall, had been killed in full t of its installation being hit. so, you know, under is the only other massive service provider, a part of the policy to start to have my sole source is capable of delivering 8 so humanitarian sense, diplomatic sense. but you wouldn't find yourself completely marginalized. richard is, is what do you agree with that? is that you are not powerless to do anything at the moment in my inmate and relation to god. yes. see you and is shown to be helpless in the face of the situation. but one must remember that the u. n is also important in the symbolism of politics. and it has had a dramatic effect on the peoples of the

world. and the outrage that has that israel has encountered throughout the world for undertaking this kind of indiscriminate and mass of violence accompanied by direct cone and restrictions on the importation of food, electricity, fuel, and water. so it is an outrage that in the digital age, confronts people everywhere in real time and the you and it plays a role. and the secretary general was acting actually in full accord with his responsibility as the highest. okay.

administrative official in relation to the un charter. oh, so the israeli outrage against him is just one more display of repudiation of international authority. all right, i mean let me pull it up then to to raphael, raphael, i'm telling you a good satera says the grievances of the policy mean people cannot justify their pulling attacks by how much. and those are pulling attacks cannot justify the collective punishment of the palestinian people. it seems a fairly, even a 100 thing to say why is not provoke such fuel re a fuel res, response from israel to well, 1st of all, i am inside i agreement. reason is the new address is a criteria general of the united nations. when he said that the, the soul of the, from us on either of was not, you know, like you and the, these very, very, very true. um, because they have to was sealed by the incitement from iran behind the

farmhouse. uh, there is the wrong. yeah. the russians, the chinese, a lot of power uh trucks are raising bowls, gets high sometimes in both. you know, you mean these are even weight that sometimes it supports the from us instead of the big us. so right, so the rights really no vacuum on the country. we do cdce pull up, she shot the see, get school of den, just unable. that's all pushing and helping to come up with weaponry is money, etc. okay, the okay, but why the fuel response from israel went on? sonya gutierrez says he wants the humanitarian that you want. what do you monitor and cease 5 for the innocent people? policy needs in gaza. why is riley so angry about the one we have to do the vacuum story more than the humanitarian. that's each via because the human

story, you know, way is the g t meeting and just the fun to. and the, i sincerely hope and it's already being prepared. the me start with us will appear in court international board. i mean with the judge and most indeed come no money. what he said, he's the 6 months suspended sentence. jensen, just because he has open unity and believe me as a bill for the person are encouraged in the in terms of the side this entire part. i want to say one was the right away. okay. we, he's ready. people have no, he's running a no bridge to watch the see on the boat we want, but it the children we man, he doesn't even use to be safe and we want them out of the combat zone because come, but there wouldn't be any for the final 2 months and we point a not using senior

duties are national community and especially okay, agent until most of the countries did, you use closing his folder to the what is the other so you can use the b directions . you just because now it's up to door, it means you come into sauce. oh god. and then i think the only thing to see from kids are, comes out with the radio play. oh no problem. i don't think one. 0 and then john. oh the come. but so far and take a rough ill thank you. i mean, chris, there's not much. i mean, it's a un security council really going to be the best for them to eventually get to a cease fire when you know of a family on to a fairly typical view from israel is what you're just hearing that from rafael. i was there on susan though, and that's why i should probably go to the general assembly in the united states, the peace side actually, which is what happens when the security council is having some. but if i may just apply to was rough. i was saying about the safety general's comments. if you read what was that gentleman said, what do you say is the context is a located casa,

which has gone on since 2007, in its most restrictive form, 2 people to patient palestinian land, which began in 1967 with lips associates, a set to the volumes, which has increased with this fall rise set to a coalition, which is headed by which was headed by this dimension. yahoo, i'm said, please. mr. gutierrez is referring to the uh, this possession of the palestinians in 19 full checks. and the wholesale is maximums of palestinian society, which drives $750000.00 refugees from their homes. they either fled all they were false, definitely that homes. and actually those are the 3 underlying causes of this conflict, which needs to be address is the is right, it is a, is there any civilians or to live free from, say, a neurosis that i'm salty. and if the palestinians, i'm not to be isolated and look pages and rather caused and brutalized any more. so let's look at what was set to general has said, unless positively on it, as

a way of addressing the underlying cause. is this a mass abundance has a cause and contextualize which is not to justify it? trying to explain it is in no way any attempts to stand by. i'm just splendid. so let's not just reject. well, the highest diplomat in the world is that is which of the project as well as not just the last stuff in jackson, they will start to see the community less engage, raphael with some of these i just because that is the way to future peaceful things right, is a positive isn't what i looked at was the brace people of southern as well as say those people who have the children to keep not that long suicide all as well. just a single life to be lost in the name of my kid. that's all my mother's shaw. they are in the full front of the search for peace and people in rough outside of the company to listen to what that constituency is saying,

that i have crying out for peace. and those are the people this really cool on board with gauze of to have lost the most, or a rough, ill come back to in a moment. but richard, 1st of all, because we're trying to focus on the you and role here is the security council going to be the best for him to get to cease fine? well, i don't think it's a feasible for him because of the geo political determination of giving israel unconditional support by the us friends and the u. k. such a situation paralyzes, the un security council. and the organization was created to give this kind of general political power. and it says sad moment when it is appreciated that the worst of international crimes can

unfold while the world is watching. and the u. n. is rendered healthful. it, i think the aligning for a piece resolution approach via the general assembly is a desirable one and the necessary one. but i would expect israel to be as arrogant and defined as it has been toward other aspects of view and an international legal authority. a raphael, it was obviously a norma's fury amongst these. right. and is that what, how much was able to get away with and october? the 7th is some of box your enough time to some of the on the un and attempt to deflect the frustrations of what, how much was able to get away with me. first of all, there's no fury and but to be is there any people just sun this?

we are a people piece. the fury is the come us. the gaming the cruelty is to come up with the people of peace, but we have to be sent out. so it's an issue saying that the international community is not with this, your mistake in the united nations. they wants to sue us, then they will have to. so because you know, my quote was upfront with you yesterday, you renewed his, of course, and he spoke of because he should see me not to do a coordination fighting ivy spiking dice. so if we do our job and the job is before any c, fire used to reach one objective with which would quickly use the night to come up, destroy the some us for ever and 3 guns up from the room. but if you want to do tennis off the, because of what we're doing is you're gonna have to, so the fridge, the british, the front world, you know, americans because the old,

you mean with this, with the now when we roughly how you've been in the israeli intelligence long enough to know that militarily, you are never going to be able to wipe out how much i mean, what is the end gaming goal is you know, the water, you know, how many times we were told that we can't do it in the 6 there was a non survey, and we did it just watch us. we have a surprise in store, but this is me, sorry i just was on continuing to mazda to mention one is the legitimacy of the secretary general of the united nations, which he has not forever by supporting tourism with the windows, to accuse some of the un institution of the come to see the copays of terrorism is we're all, we're not in jobs on east coast or anything with that service is not protecting the civilians as it should. i mean, did you have the children by thing and children hatred on june,

june and suck, revising, and to show the game and jihad and really watching? i would use the united nations of being a company since arizona. oh, i know. okay. just by so you know, you want just one thing and i'm finished. the problem is there, you're going to think about the vision. we have different vision does a years and years ago. and that's when the from us went into the buck june. you about getting that you're talking about the palm of the days and we're not present being generally the or, and you know, the way it goes up for years and years and years. and that's the new stuff. we have given a lot of thousands of dollars of work very well. doesn't work just the government. why do you use all for governance do against the road and we have and that's merchandise going to get to the the more so we have to be the only reason we might need to turn in the economy. how does uh, is the press don't or the disease,

right. all right, well chris, i'll have to let you come back and let you spend long enough in gaza to explain the wrong or to you and i'll let you come back. yeah. yeah. can i just walked backwards through some of those roughly those completely mendacious trends festival? besides you, the info has left assume is relaxed and impose the blockade. the idea that it's been generously allowing guesswork has into, as well to what can i say, but why don't be own total stories of what's happened to the last couple of weeks is the thousands of palestinian guest workers from joseph to be incarcerated and low top. we don't know where they all, we don't have the we have somebody do. but that's a huge until story that about thousands of workers who was simply doing a job under wall sconces and that's been rounded up. and a lot of the idea that roughly i would say that the secretary general is supporting terrorism, obviously, rockville people who listen to that, and simply lost all your other ideas, some of which are a passive reasonable to cues, beset to general being

a criminal and of being someone who is supposed to terrorism, that simply would resume with anyone. it's contemptible, but you can make these comments about the well talk diplomat who's working. it's hard to sleep alone with his supposed stop to bring peace to your parts of the world. so you'll come in under a as fun with spokesman for 15 years. i dealt with this live time and time again. we have of people who would film from us schools where indeed there were some accounts of other things which were teaching of extremism to, to children. we investigated every single one of those and we showed that they will pull a pack of bye, certainly join the guards are going to to 1000 full team minutes would still look at in our schools when we found them that the schools have been multiple to. so when we found that because of all the components, the 1st people we've sold pretty much with these ladies, we have no credit it so that instead we would sold the narrative. when's how some smart regular, the time, and others? the other is way. suppose people on route was collaborating with parents in order

to send rockets and so all of these and see run on the front bar under as opposed to tears. and probably so we can investigate that. complete lives in the very last point about international support to israel. if you actually listen to the global self opinions of people in the global south for them, this is the last antique colonial struggle. the last vestiges of the antics level struggles from the 19th century. this is the last struggle against white people starting brown people off the on. if you look was capable rings people on the streets today, there are 3 or 4 issues as black plus maps of there's a need to move months of those global as part of the change that i'm the productivity owns and wishes to not can buy. and they better listen because they're all on distract from their electric, okay. and the street, the people on the planet all very much standing with the power of stadiums in positive use in the mc colonial struggle. okay. richard were just told quick about what the un is trying to do. now they've been going to be another security council

meeting while with a while. this program is on that they want to the us as cold for polls in the fighting rush. it wants a humanitarian c spine, help us understand what the difference is and what you would like to see. i would like to see a cessation of violence altogether and humanitarian cease fire is something that is generally understood as a prelude to political negotiations. and how mouse is elected, remember that it must, unless, as a political actor, that has committed a terrorist act in its attack of october 7th. but the idea of eradicating a political actor because as has committed an act of terrorism would apply to many governments including that of israel and is

a very dangerous doctrine. and as it's being implemented in the violence, but we've witness so far, it has a jeopardize the lives of thousands and thousands of innocent pat was turned in. people, including several 1000 palestinians will show that it is a great tragedy and catastrophe about which the un as an organization cannot do any thing affective so long as these western powers block it from opposing the continuation of this uh, on slot, on the palestinian people are christmas going to be an after when israel decides is done as much as it can in gaza was going to need the un full. then frankly,

as we say, it's going to need the un in the humanitarian sense. and that really puts on her a sense of stage, and that means under it has to be probably funded even before this current across is on the 7th of october under was over a $100000000.00. schultz prince regular programs. and it since issued a flash appeal full of a $100000000.00. so yes, it will meet that you and that it will lead on the well the lead on really, really needs to be probably funded by the world. and the is the other huge service provider apart from them as well. so it's, it's unreal. has engineers, it has health well cuz it has the teachers, it has like a social support system in the community. it has a broad range of social services that is in the office, and those are going to have to be the massively ramped up. if it went to the abilities you might a tearing catastrophe, which frankly, with, in the midst of it was, i said, 600000 people taking refuge in almost school schools, which are designed for

a 1000 kids during the day. and then to be up to $1009.00. so there's a massive tasks of interest, anything else in schools? but beyond that, there's going to be a huge rebuilding and rehabilitation program. again, this is the 5th war and god so that under a has lived 3. so under has experience in doing this on the diplomatic from because we difficult to know well the way forward will be because you have is, will arrogantly condemning the secretary general, completely unjustifiably. but again, the un will come to the thing to it. so because it's going to be the place where all the policy is able to get to that is to tools get out of that is no other form . so if you notice the un doesn't exist, something like you would have to be offensive. it only didn't exist, something like you would have to be best, but we have to get away from this idea of is well and it's american chevy to city being able to reject the event that it's not going to work in the postal dispensation. okay. um uh, richard took his present ridge of type road once as

a and by the end of the inability to agree. so what resolution regarding gaza? he wants reform of the security council is not the 1st time his goal for that. but also brazil is present, literally the syllabus says, what's happening now in the end is exposing the weakness of the you. when do you see those? recognize those goals of a need or a full them of how the you and operates? i do, but i don't think the political conditions will allow that or for them to take place precisely because these powers don't want to give up their capacity to paralyze the organization. if it's prescriptions, go contrary to the strategic interest. and this is a shocking example where the, the leading democratic constitutional governments of the world

are over li, endorsing the most in use of crimes that unfold day by day and guys, and have committed the worst crimes that have been shown to the world in since world war 2 says it's a shocking moment. all right. thanks to august to richard folk and chris goes on to a rough failed jerusalem a who joined us earlier. and thank you to for watching. you can see the problem again. any time by visiting our website address era dot com, the further discussions goes well. facebook page, facebook dot com, forward slash ha, inside the store. you can also draw the conversation on x, we all at a inside store for me, the smith and the whole team here. the

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