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and after another mass shooting in america, john henry and l g 0. in other world news, 2 people have died following an explosion that a book seem training center west of the half down capital kabul. please confirm that the for the 9 people were injured. now details have been given about the cause of the explosion. sci fi adults between saddam's warring factions resumed on thursday in the saudi city of jetta, maybe 5 months after they were suspended. so don's army has been battling the part of military records support forces for control of the country since april. the conflict has left 1000 instead, and millions have been displaced. 0 has he been moving reports listed in east capitol cartoon? this is what s my habits home and how to tune looks like after an artillery shell hits it last week. residents, here's the it's came from across the mile river, fired by the power made it through. rapid support forces into northern undermine a strong hold of the sudanese army. the 2 sites have been fighting for more than 6
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months because i didn't sit in the this, i was sitting on the bed, then i had an explosion and the was covered in the basket. i couldn't move because of the destruction. and the shop no hit me in the leg. i was bleeding, they took me to the neighbor's house, and that's where i found that it wasn't not too early striking once a relatively safe place in the past month. hundreds of artillery strikes have been launched at school hospitals and homes in northern on through man. dozens of civilians have been killed or injured. right on the government and look on some off what was coming back from the shopping hood. people seeing that shows are forwarding one, hit our neighbor and killed him. i was hit by shrapnel and then we ran home and the 2nd round struck our house. local emergency crews accused the rapids support forces of caring now. so the strikes in the shelling in civilian areas has prompted people
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who have stayed in cartoon throughout the months of conflict to leave, to stay for areas outside the capital. but in the past few weeks, fighting and security has been spreading to previous to safe areas. ceasefire talks have resumed after months of suspension, both the sudanese army and the parent military group say they want to end the suffering of those costs in the crossfire. but previous choose this collapsed sometimes minutes after coming into effect. and many here say they'll wait to see if this round of negotiations is any different. he but morgan ultra 0 her to him. oh, okay, that's it from me dire in jordan state june, because the news continues on the top of the hour here and i'll just say are off the top to watch here. thanks so much and bye for now. the freight companies, fig passports, international banks,
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and the proceeds of organized crime interpreters, big p l. a balance on the new female fiction in a remarkable 3 pos people, the power investigation into a complex, secretive world. to a journalist, go in search of the tale in my fears, 13 months. the longer i talked to on a jesse to the early in the morning of october, the 7th. something happened that for many as valleys and even palestinians was unthinkable. the funds that has got to move on to a 1000000 people in the gaza strip and then see an ad located since 2007 was breached. how mass most and defensive in southern is, well,
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it's flight to into areas under these valley control attacking beatrice facilities and take you know, of us settlements down. the group also took hundreds of people, is varieties, and following those comp to shortly afterwards as well begin bombarding the gaza strip from north to south, forcing more than a 1000000 policy is from the hose in search of a page. but they have no way to go and know is say these why the army has get thousands. the policy is targeting apartments, lots hospitals, moss and choices. it is campaign to root out from us. it was only on october the 21st 14 days into the war, the convoys carrying food, medicine and water. what allows into the gaza strip and it's only a fraction of the basic humanitarian aid supplies on which millions of people
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defend. we spoke to one of the regional heads of the international committee of the red cross involved in the emergency response. my mother saw to try to 0. the nato saw head of the international committee of the red cross for the gulf corporation council countries. the gc, thank you for talking to us just, you know, i would like to have on with the situation because that was continues to top. the global agenda is october. the 7th comparatives, i've been released recently. you've been involved in the operation facilitating the police. could you give us a sense of the cost of negotiations wed, do this then? now it's good to this question is uh, because uh, obviously you have seen the images and they have been shared widely with my colleagues on the ground. uh, you know, taking the hostages from uh, cosigned brigades and the facts and,
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and because i am questing and sending them over, taking them to the israeli side and, and people might one day, you know, what is this organization that can do something like this in the heat of the battlefield and, and that's what we do. also, we are the international red cross. we are a neutral party to a conflict. we are there to support the populations were affected. and in the course of doing our work, we engage bilaterally with both parties to the conflict, and we build the trust between them and us, but also with between us and the end the population. and it is this pastor of a neutral bodies that allow us lead it to be able to, to, to, to serve this work. now, when it comes to the negotiation, per se, it is not our role to negotiate. the lease we spend with international instrument and low which prohibit southern practices and we're very clear with this. but whatever there is the need for part is to a conflict to make those differences,
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they rely on us too often to, to, to deliver. i do understand we're talking about pretty much very sensitive issues here, but we also understand that you are in touch with him as well as these bodies. the international can meet with some of the key players of trying to negotiate a reg through when it comes to the a, bring the release of the competition. but do you get a sense that we are likely to get to that point or no? well, i will hope, as an international committee of the red cross is that the families who have been separated and who are desperately waiting to be reunited with their loved ones are given the chance to be reunited with their loved ones. and this is very important to know. i've worked in many countries including him because the and when people separated from the loved ones are the result of an i'm conflict. what's phase with them is a whole that can not be filled. and it's only the news of release that allow for that to happen. less for want to break down the situation of the detainees, all the competition. we're talking about how much and all the of the goose,
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which i believe to behold you more than $200.00 people comparative his right of forces have invested hundreds of people including children. do got to see them talk to the families we working in is when we and these relevant even guys, when i was there, we shuttle almost on a daily basis by the students from size is we have to go visit the loved one in prisons. this is very important work that we do to the united families. we are gearing up to start visiting people who are the pain in israel. this is a part of our normal work in, in, in is l in the occupied police and interpreters. and this way we continue to do it because this visits, they allow that they serve as a lifeline for the detainees and they loved one. but it's also allow us to be able to check on the conditions and their treatment. we also wish to be able to visit the people who are in the custody of from us. and the factions we have made this very clear. and um, for the moment we um,
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satisfied with the ability to do that new to intermediary for the release. but we also would like to be able to visit them so that their families can know their faith and the way about and know so that they are safe and one on on the issue of the children. because human rights organizations, i'm talking about over a $180.00 children, a rest of the altima to be able to i'll give the grunt attendance for their own loved ones to be able to go and visit me the rest of the way in the west bank. because as you know, they've been met in coaches into the west bank and many children were arrested. and also if it's good that you mentioned that was oftentimes, people tend to think only about a competence when they forget that we're talking about hundreds of people who also invested by these around. and so, you know, the violence situation into west may have spiraled down, and in fact, a 2022 is not yet the business that you're on record for the west bank. this year
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has to pass the number of casualties that uh, that was recorded on the west bank. so um, we are concerned by the escalation in the west bank. and we hope that the preservation of life will also be permanent. what happens to the us nationals of the citizen and for the national, still stranded in does not able to cross into egypt, us national change or in a who would just happen to be visiting families. and because under was this trend that could you be helpful in facilitating that exit into egypt because they just so, so far i've been saying we have to wait until we get a, a global comprehensive solution before we decide who should leave and also so i, i cannot really comment on individual cases, which i'm not aware of, but i can tell you that 2200000 people are stuck in together strip their lives, have been done upside down. you know, for a fact that everybody have had the loved ones killed during this last round,
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just to tell you how, how desperate your situation is on the ground. and we will not spare any effort to remind the parties to the conflict, to respect international humanitarian law. the slow is very clear on the protection of civilians, of those one of those will no longer fighting on the protection on the civilian infrastructures, the hospitals. and so on, because that's um, those are the limits for that or to be respect. let's talk about who you are. i see i see. what do you do, what you spend for your mandate? when you look at your website, it says that the i, c r. c stands for promoting people's white and dignity they've been operating in the occupied territories since 1967 that they visited, detainees were united, family support, livelihood projects help improve access to expensive services. water and electricity. now, when it comes to the situation and gaza,
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these when it on me is of making references for preparation for the ground invasion into gaza. is it likely to further complicate your mission and gaza? well, today as we speak, we have more than a 100 colleagues who are in the guns this trip and we also have been there for it since the 1960 is continuously as you said, we are prepared to display and we intend to stay by the side of the people who are affected so that we can fulfill mandate our partners and colleagues, the red crescent society, they also present them together, still doing a phenomenal work. of course, they have received warning messages to evacuate, but we've been very clear. hospitals all protected and the international human to enroll them monday is to serve people and they need to be allowed to do the work.
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and i was quite moved when i so my team colleagues on the ground, they went to meet a brothers and sisters, some direct questions. and this suit in front of the hospitals. you know, when i, when i last was, you know, just you to, i, i said to your colleagues that i wish we could see all the hospitalization, guys that we don't buddies. i know and, and you know, in a flush, but obviously we can't, it's the load that shields them. but when i, so my colleagues standing in front of us quits hospitals, i was quite proud of them. and some of those colleagues have been killed in a slice of them had been killed. one colleague of making an ab that am i gonna do that and also have been killed. and uh, and, you know, whenever we lose one person on and on the heat of the, the, the, the, the, the conflict, something in us days with it. you know, since you mentioned the humanity of situation, the flow of humanitarian aid through rough crossing is below expectations and people are frustrated. why is age so restricted as we speak to?
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well, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's take it apart. so 1st of all, we welcome the agreement to start bringing in daily needed supplies. so i think every blanket that enter in guys is needed. every bottle of what that enters is needed. every medical supplies that makes it way in together step is needed. if we need to, a fuse that enters is needed without fuel the hospitals. they don't function incubators, they stop. x rays can not be taken. oxygen must don't function. so we went from the agreement to bringing that the goods together. but we talking about 2200000 people who being under the, under the bonds we talking about hospitals that are on the knees. we're talking about infrastructure is water system, electricity system, which we've been supporting for years for years. we've been supporting difficult would been supporting c m w is
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a water and electricity companies to being resilient to be able to, to absorb some of these trucks that they, we have spare parts, prepositions all over the guys if so that we can continue to fix them and repair them so that at least the minimum is, is, is, is provided. so we hope that the more there would be an agreement on fuel so that more fuel will enter when we open, we hope also that the, the get to gather would be flung wide open for really, really substantial amount of, of aid will enter. why isn't this happening? let me just quote what you and agencies, the w, b, w h o and many others have been saying recently, they've described the humanitarian situation in gaza as catastrophic as they've been urgent to calling for humanitarian sees via why is the ceasefire not happening anytime soon? this, by the magnitude of this destruction, you just look at the area of footage and you get a sense of how, how realistic is the situation that we can the words now in what's happening
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because in the society is needed today when you called people because they don't want you to ask them how they're doing, because they know we know the answer. they don't want to you to tell them about what is happening outside of because they want to hear one word, sci fi. they want to breeze. people have not slept for days. people have left their homes, they are under the shut shelters. some don't even have shelters, they are sleeping under the trees. they are struggling for water pain. what's the number of people now who have stomach problems staggering on the rise? you know, the infrastructure is that i talked about earlier, they are all connected with that electricity. you don't have really good running water. you cannot be southern, as you cannot even treat the switch system. the sewage is going, the raw sewage is going to end up in the cities, and this is going to lead again to more problems. compounding with the problem,
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this cold by the intensity of the vitamins. so a sci fi is deadly needed. now see that this is something which is likely to put more strains on what you do and most of the united nations agencies, humanitarian agencies operating on the ground. people's take this double standard by all proportions ukraine. we saw the international reaction disaster before because no one seems to okay. yeah, i don't know. i mean it's, it's, it's, i don't know if it's fair to say that nobody cares. we care deeply. we are very much present on the ground. and our voice is also clear. uh, we are, you know, the defense between us and, or the organization whom we respect me is that we a very much on the ground. as i told you, we are repairing the electricity. we are repairing the water system. we are trying distributing water to the camps. not only that we are crossing deadlines to meet
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with these really general talk to them about the situation in together step. we are pressing the lines to meet with the home us to tell them about what's happening on the other side of the fence. but you know, there's been this quote for unrestricted humanitarian access to data. and people have these things we should do along medical teams. people to cross into the territory because it's about time to help that unrestricted access is not happening as we speak. and this is just great for the lead to more casualties, more identities and more tragedy to the point where people are frustrated, hungry, and they're asking, how much do we have to wait if or indeed, the, the 1st obligations under international humanitarian law. uh for respecting the civilians and allowing them to have assistance and allowing the red
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cross in the red crescent. and always you might have 10 organizations, e to move around and do the work. these obligation of the parties to the conflict and this obligation on the international as you might and law, strong obligations on there's a blood stain agreements that have been signed in the aftermath of world war 2. the old countries now have agreed to be more effective. and to ensure its respect for whole cats in a way or another. and let me tell you why people ask in the same question. who cast the us has used it's. vito of united nations gives a counsel to block investigations, calling for as well to allow him anytime you call the doors in the gaza strip, to pausing the fighting and the lifting to death for civilians to leave the north to the you is not really united when it comes to this is bias. i'm not saying it should not be for the c spy. it should be a possible with the ultimate goal is for these right is to step in it all to
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eradicate how much when you send this message to people office, do you understand what it means? it means for loads of many people that no one cast full policy unblocked. you know, you asking me particular questions. i know i, i'm a humanitarian. you know, my, my role is to make sure our role is to ensure that the people on the ground have access to the the, the aid that they need. it's also to speak privately, quietly, confidentially. but with all those decision makers, i don't can affect the situation. i'm totally understand. you're finding them that fine line and we're doing that. but let me say something about punch um, just to get this off the way. we know that ultimately the solution to what's happening in the ghost, what's happening in palestine lives on the political system. we're talking about situation with getting bus by the minute. once again,
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quotes united nations agencies operating in cuz they say that hospitals are overwhelmed. people are great to best children are dying, got an alarming rate being to 9th of bite to protection. isn't this the collective punishment of the entire population? we've talked about the situation earlier, i told you really, i mean, i've worked there in as a, i've worked there for more than 2 years and i know exactly what the people are going through today based on what they're telling me. i can ask you a question. what's your favorite time of the day, or, or of any day? favorite hour. early morning, early morning is as the people's worst time of the day is sunset. because when the sun goes down, the bump starts raining downs of people's head. so to be today, it has to be there is, as they told me,
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it's to leave with the fear that your life can end in a split of a 2nd. that everything that you care for, your family, the business that you build from your life savings, your home can be going in a split of a 2nd and it has been going on for many times. i think it must come a time when the world with just pause and, and accept that they might be such a thing as being too late. and really addressed the situation of the people in plaza with this sense of urgency. i think now is the time to to, to also consider what the people are going because now we're talking about this crisis. i can list many other questions before protective edges. here's some of rains and many more cas legs and every round of escalation, leave the people in gaza, worse off than they were before talking about a sense of emergency and urgency. the injured the injured have the babies are quite
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immediate aid, given the situation which has been evolving with no indications of a a ton so sees, why are you contemplating different options such as moving people into the junction side with makes shift hospitals and clinics to provide to the, to the, to provide aid for those are needed. no, i mean, the associates know, moving nobody, i mean let's be very clear about this. so what the law says, the people, even the, the, the order by, by israel to evacuate, to ask people to evacuate from the north. me this, we were very clear that this is against international human to, to and lot. because you cannot ask hundreds of thousands of people to move from the homes without the provision of any basic necessities that they, they, they need to survive. and this is within the guy, this trip. and i don't even know if people realize what it means to have 2.4000002.2000000 people in
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a small stuff like this. i'm even smart sometimes when people talk about the north end, the self does. all of it is densely populated. you know, so, so we have very clear on the movement of people within the guys. now the i, c, r c has been very clear over the years about the, the, the protection major needs of the palestinians. so we to a very clear and we have also been very clear on the obligation of, of the state of israel visa v. uh, the palestinians. and um, and it's not law for me. uh uh for, for an occupying force to move out of the occupied territories, an entire population. so i'd rather not the library too much on this because again, this has been hypothetical. but um, you know, the need to be protected where they are a big covering was on the dry season for the last quarter century. and when you see the thousands and thousands of people on the moving costs that because they were
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told to leave the moving parts of the city, not knowing where to go, a desperate for that safety. but at the same time, not knowing where they might end up and the international community is doing nothing, as we speak to provide them with alternatives for humanitarian groups operating on the ground could be one day off to provide the testament is to the i c. c, for example, which happened in the past. and then that's where that could be the moment when people have to say what they have to say. plainly about the situation. we're talking about the need to help, but we're not offering people on the ground elements for a decent digney flight exit strategy. and this is a problem when it comes to garza and i think this is something that could potentially further complicate. you have to ask, i do understand you, you don't want to talk about many of these issues, but give me a sense. so how do you see, how does that in the upcoming days, in the opposite of
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a political solution, because you end up being trapped that it ends up being the one that has to handle the situation of that. let me tell you something today. i think it's rare to see a war that has been dis televised. i think on a daily basis or by minutes, we receive live images of what's happening in the gather step. but when you talk to palestinians, they don't even feel the people see them. they don't feel the people she have them . they feel the weight of how d humanise. they have been how the human eyes, the pain has been. and this is a big problem and they're not numbers. they are such an blood blood human being. you know, we, we, we, we, we, we, we said it very clearly. uh, what happened um,
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to the south of israel uh, the level of violence that was a leech, there is absolutely beyond comprehension. but for us, nothing absolutely nothing can justify. and then regulated destruction of causes to and definitely with like also to take the opportunity to come out of the work of the, or your colleagues, all the humanitarian organizations could be just the operating under the extremely difficult situation and goes, i'm, i'm not this the head of the international committee of the red cross for the gulf corporation council, countries that decency, thank you for talking to us. yeah, thank you. thank you. i really appreciate the it does have been some fold. we covered every angle of these waiting. why would is real that crossing is really deputy foreign minister. he thinks that the rules of
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the game has changed. i'm on israel steps, is that it will certainly look at the lease of more of these captives. what you might have to use drugs, are you telling view is faulty? i us experts on bias and wrong. well you have to do is look at the u. n. schools in gaza. why are you looking up? i'm, i am hearing something i said to me, that's right over our heads. stay close to the story without you 0. they save the years in palestine. they also have eyes to architecture is used by as a width of a of eyes met reveals the wrong the architecture in his reading the occupation. everything in this panorama is a technical tool within the architecture for the patient. just need to know how to decode the architecture of silence. part of the rebel architecture series on how to just show documentaries from around the world that celebrates
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