take love to do so not for the 1st time in the process of european political debates. what's not up for arguments is tiny island comp codes. the most nights you ever spent in the open days seeking what are the help. there is 3 of with this album it's and i've seen some people who does the album. it's anything that produces is less than a 150 kilometers from introducing coast. and it's become the main sea route from north africa into europe. the freelance producer jobs, the islands deputy, they're saying the residents are tired and want to return to a life based on tourism. and fishing are still of on demand will be here on sunday, along with georgia maloney. but it's far from clear exactly how much of what she wants. it least prime minister will get one demand or most certainly went out of reach the idea of an e. u. naval blockade that will prevent migrant boats from reaching these shows. the latest news as it breaks. kyle is what i can see over the balcony. yeah,

i'm good. so was the palestinian president, about what time the game goes up with detail coverage around $60000.00 people have arrived here. they're afraid and many here are blaming benjamin nothing you know, from around the well joe biden was meant to meet with 3 out of leaders in jordan, but via essentially cancel. i went to the us president was not prepared to call for the ceasefire. his arrows gauze at b r, a chief mullins, his wife, daughters some underground, some killed in his randy, attempt. the majority of the was victims of women and children with journalists among the dead to these anywhere in the gaza strip site. this is inside store the

hello and welcome to the program and the and it's nice while doctor is one of the best known journalists in the gaza strip. just as his colleague sharina bell actually was in the occupied, westbank is really full. so shelton killed train while she was on assignments engineering. last year, wiles, wife, daughter, son, grandson, were killed, and as striking a refugee camp in central garza, on wednesday, a place they had left the home for a place they believed to be safe. despite the tragedy, while his pledge to keep reporting on his rails bore on gauze, no doubt it would not stock me from doing my duties, no matter what the price without paying the voice of. i'll just hear my voice will continue to tell the truth in a few minutes i will go live on air. shame on the story of the occupation forces. more women and children have been killed in this more than man, or even competence. hospitals schools refugee comes in upon them. books i've been raised to the ground, and relentless is really a tax journalist,

have been victims to and less than 3 weeks. 24 media workers have been killed. 20 of them palestinians, according to the committee for the protection of journalists in the face of such a violence is anywhere in gauze a safe. so any one will be discussing this with, i guess in a moment. but 1st, let's talk to a journalist until his colleague of well to do. i'll just share a producer stuff. what i'll close is covered gauze over the past 12 years, and i've been lucky enough to work with them over that time and joined us from data . obama in central garza. southwell, thanks for joining us. i know it's a very, very difficult time for you. the moment just tell us 1st of all about while and his family what do you know? um, you have been uh to go several times and you know, uh with the relationship between other agencies that are teams. wireless not only for league, why it is a big brother um is close to everybody and uh, in terms of uh, just the other team, you know,

we use uh that insurance. ready and he is the advisor for everyone since he is the uh, the most experienced a journalist and the thing dogs that i wish nothing, probably stein and no just deal t as in dog o. so the, you know, um we have been shared in quite a lot of social touch scenarios. the ceremonies including good days, including the manager based on last year. so we are family uh together which met with the and, and uh, the other colleagues, you know, i, you know, uh and for, we work together and i just need it for 12 years. but i know him for more than 23 years or 22 to be more accurate. so i, you know, i know when he used to work for local daily, uh, the reporter and then he moved to a lot of media such a like journal. and then finally uh for our luck he joined the 0. he's the bravest

journalist by the way, i have ever met and they have what so ever worked with uh, despite all of these conditions, heart conditions on the, on the working on the fire. if you decide to stay in dogs, well, and keep, keep reporting well, control life from the, from the destruction. and i made some k days ago and i told him why. and while you're staying here, they said, what else can we go simply? so he, okay, he thought the case, acute of his family moving them or displacing them to and those that are to the virginia for jacob. but unfortunately, g said no place is safe on. you're a journalist on your family, mom. how have you been able to manage both those aspects of your lots of families? the most important, of course, it was the the most major and challenge that i have been facing. the other 5 that i have what support would make it to get displace those to

displace with my trying to be uh, you know, do have to meet the minimum needs at least uh for the time it is. uh, we spent a long time looking, cutting bottles of water and lining up at some wells just to find some water for the children. this is number one number to the food unit, a sanction for which is the bread. we lined up at the bakery to bring food on itself, even safe, you know, some people they were killed. why lining up at the water? uh uh, both of loads or the bakers. so we have been reporting that even though a lot of folks. so this is the 1st challenge, the 2nd thing is the fee and or the funding. it looks or the children they look at the father of been being sort of fall out on support. and they contribute to the field and the weakness and the father because i understand that. so this is psychologically, is very, uh,

dangerous and for the long term when the family loses the faith in the main social followed, which is the father to. so i asked my daughter a few days ago, how do you feel that you said you are okay. we are okay, this good. this even more challenges to the challenges that you are facing in an hour about an hour, an hour without a 5 minutes. all right. stuff. what stuff at all clue. thank you for talking to us from gaza. please. please look after yourself. and your family, your, you know, your colleagues in gaza an hour and all thoughts. so please, please try take care as best you can self lot. thank you very much. try and go to bed. thank you. the thank you, my dear. thank you very much. let's bring in august a new york is joad against the president of the committee to protect journalists, a non profit organization that promotes media freedom and defends the rights of

journalists in ramallah and the occupied westbank is most stuff. a bogu t sexy general of the palestinian national initiative. and in the home jordan capital, texas tech output is irene. com. you in special rapids or on the promotion and protection of the right to freedom of opinion and expression. a warm welcome to you will. um, 1st of all, my stuff uh about gucci and ramallah. can you just tell us about how important whales reporting is in the public speaking world as well. 2 as a very, very close, and a lot of them colleague who, who has been doing wonderful work in terms of the general isn't covering what was happening because all of these is he has covered so many wards that happened to so many or aggressions that happened on garza, i personally knew him very well and i happened to be in guys are doing it in 2014 or and do it in which time we met many times on. so he did

wonderful professional job. and i think that where do icons or if i just need a word in the occupied territories, and what and i do and goes on should be involved in the law. and unfortunately, both of them had this that have been good. i, judy city noble, i flew, was killed by an as an alias night, but i'm the most recent that the national commission reported the very clearly that she was significant for no reason. i buy, i know, is there any sniper, i know the door is losing his farm and his the is his wife, his son, his daughter. it's kind of been tardy. but also it indicates what getting a list have to live through in palestine. and let me add that up to this moment 20 to getting a list. and does that have been kind of doing this that have been at the office? right? yeah. suiting the last 20 days 2020 i noticed on tiffany. also remind you that the,

during the last 10 years and this in addition to these 22 jet another 50 to other you'll notice including 50 and i've opt. you would also come to buy those that are the automated list back then guys. yes. ok. most of the thank you very much, jody varies, perhaps no more dangerous in the well to walk, right. as a journalist and gaza at the moment. what are the challenges you understand the best facing above the ordinary challenges they would face from the reporting from gaza joined previous conflicts? well, as you've heard, this is the deadliest conflict for gentleness, opposing on this region at the in the 30, is that if you don't have documenting this and in fact, it looks like it's the worst period for john, let's cover and complex. anyway, ever in those the t is extremely challenging to cover goals are at the moment, there is no way to go. that's right, there's nowhere to hide. and i'm so i'm,

and yet we are relying on those douglas inside garza to tell us what's happening and everyone who is a john. this is effectively becoming more a pull to and that's been the case for many gods and janice them for many years. they coping with challenges including lack of electricity, obviously the dangers of repeated strikes and so on and, and all of that while they are in must, and living among friends and family as, as well was the hiring. um, what do you understand developed well, is that the from your perspective, the importance of cause of freedom of expression and opinion? well, do you understand a bit of the challenges of a journalist trying to do that to engage with? first of all that you said freedom of expression is extremely important, or particularly in times of conflict, how as we get to use. but in this conflict,

it is indiscriminate. this for fortunate attacks against his phone civilians, joggers civilians under international humanitarian though they have no protection civilians, foreign gotta have no protection from indiscriminate, disproportionate attacks. so what good is your jack press with? not going to do? what are your husbands going to do? that's supposed to be true on the ground, that there are no rules that have being followed by, by his read it in this conflict to no rules applicable to civilians are being respected. that is an immense trustee for the people on the grow. but i think for international humanitarian know the entire system of the room. the floor is under pressure here. and you on the list on the front line, all the ones who are showing with the coverage and resilience. how much a blatant disregard for international humanitarian law is taking place in

government? most of what we're trying to look a bit at how journalists are able to report from cause are and also the occupied westbank. do you see a way that the do you see a way the palestinians are reported about is a different place to the ways re lease i would reported about. and of course there is a very huge difference. and the especially a doing this terrible or is it any perspective is present to repeatedly and so many times. and even when it's long lies about what has happened, like that totally misleading and black media information about decapitating children or raping women, which which many dentist had to apologize about reporting like cnn, reporters los angeles times as well. but these lies keep repeating. and unfortunately, what i see in many, i'm in the national media outlets,

is that the do not on the report works out what, what is it, or is i saying the do not 3 portfolio experience i've seen. but on top of that, if you add it and i actually interviewed, i mean that they would have 10 interviews with, with, with the with is there any is, and maybe one location the interview with the city. and then the strange thing is that the broadcast or the one who was running the interview wouldn't be and not the only thing again is that any. busy of you, but also the p things i say, i'm rebecca and while he's interviewing governors opinion and that by itself shows you how, how, how the dispute is the situation unfair and how improper it is. and the problem also is that when did he put it about, is it or the situation? it said he bought it, think about human beings a better. so i tried doing uh, family who has been affected, but then its numbers on the, on the police,

the on site. and that's why the state, the case of uh why is that maybe brings maybe some light on the fact that these 7000 palestinians, kent, i'm more of them 3000 children killed out of human beings. the not just the numbers . busy of the people who live doesn't work that 5, that is my god, as children as sisters and brothers. and that's exactly what is missing. and then most of the nation and media outlets. it's really, really a lot of discrimination. a lot of i'm acceptable doing the discrimination and um, most of them that in the lives keep coming go to them is the keep repeating them. especially one last point is that they, they tend to blame the victim. blaming the victim. they blame us for being bombarded. they're blaming us for being cook. this is so acceptable, jody, you generally sell pricing and gaza and also in the occupied westbank as well when

the stuff where is at the moment do what do you? oh, i might see my can always question, i guess, but what are your main concerns, but you in this reporting that it is also now very dangerous. let me in the west bank as well. we increase the productivity. it's incredibly difficult to, to be safe reporting on this area. not only do we have, obviously, from the minute to launch has potential ground invasion, but increasingly journalist risk when they're going out to report from potentially as people who wants to take revenge on gentleness olmos for reporting what's happening. we've seen cases of done this, even in israel being pulled out of that cause being harass, being threatened. we've seen targeting of ministry, i'm sorry, of media installations. prevent which would obviously prevent the media from reporting and guessing the news out. so it's not just the minute tray route,

risks that just in this space. it's also the threats and harassment from pups ordinary individuals from the police and others. for doing that job's hiring, i wanted to ask you about the challenges all bustling, fake information to fake news if you liked has been a lot of concerns that may just social media groups like met the manage facebook and instagram. i've been heavily censoring palestinian content in arabic can compared to how they do with content. in the hebrew there isn't this need for freedom of information. how do you balance those 2 needs? it was supposed to go. there is no for the entry access or journalist to got out of the west bank fast enough. so i think is one way in which you use this being sense that there are only some sources that can, can work there. or showing this don't have access. certainly you might have received another because of that of social media platforms are taking down post in

the case of mecca. and there was already a adjustment or a decision by tone oversight, board, about distortion of removal of ballasting and post metric games that it has to but not improve its content at policies, content, moderation policies. but of course, something just do coming in and it's very hard to judge what is actually happening because all the social media platforms, as you know, have very take ways of managing content. why don't we default so no. is the states a number of european states, for example, have tried to stop protest, procurement palestinian protests have tried to remove, for example, or punishing in a flash when when demonstrate design using that type of censorship is of course not reasonable under international law on the ground i can just only just imagine how terrible it must be for john,

it is for us to resulting for someone who likes more to try to do that. he has fixed very rarely, has there been such a demand on the cards for this evening of june. this from the ground, but seeing and free access to media should be a fundamental requirement in a situation like this because that's the way from diverse so that 3 guys would be able to make out what is propaganda. and what is fact at the moment? that is not big enough place right. there is a blockade. nope. justin civilians not just in many candidates. also access. jody su wants to comment on that. i wanted to comment on that to, to, at that point because of the quantity of missing this information we are seeing. that's why it survived so that we have up to reality of media covering this conflict is why we're particularly concerned that the committee to protect done is by threats to, for example, sensor to 0. and it is really important at this moment in time where people have

finding it very difficult to know what to believe that you have a relative media able to report what is happening even in the face of unimaginable threats and pressure. and jody, i wanted to ask you as well about joe and list operating in israel. somebody's railey june list have not been able to question the actions of back country because of the atmosphere that it is right of your either for us or against us at the moment. what are you hearing about that? we're hearing similar concerns that people have being threatened for asking questions. that's the job of done. and this journalism is to hold power to accounts to us difficult questions. it's perfectly possible to do that and remain patio tech remain a citizen, a real country. um, and you should not be so rest and or prevented from doing so either by the

government or officials or by the mold myself. how can i ask you how you would have so many interviews with for media or many don't speak to until us conflict in the palestinian territories. well, what are the sort of biggest challenges you face in the ignorance you sometimes come across? we generally see riley speak to well, as you said, we never looked at them the never interviewed unless something is happening. so isn't it? and i mean, uh before this world war to started before it's months, we've lost in uh, west bank $248.00 by the citizens, including for the children. so one of them was only 2 and a half years old. we had set, let, has been in houses that last been in good cars attacking communities. no, none of these for the and yet know this, but he had or even practice really to, to, to do part about that. very few, if any. and, but that's one example, one son is that our lives had, or once something happens to,

is that. and then everybody's here that there's the 2 extra unfortunately. but i want to add something about the silence of silence exhibit and understand those things to people. and before this effect started, we, we know that there was an act of intellectual internal being practiced by different scientist, organizations, i'm sorry, i missed lobby's in different countries of the world. the best example of that is gemini, about to try to say something. i mean, immediately attacked by this lobby, forcing people to design from their jobs, threatening them, etc. but it's now gotten much worse. i think the basic approach, if i need to and the list to explanation any who doesn't belong to either side is to be balanced in the approach. and we've. 2 had in the process of which something that is taking place. i do this, i'm not anybody but the secretary general of the united nations. good. there ish was just there to say that there is this have the top in the back. your mind there

is no compassion, america, or the united states as much good as occupation of the united states as much that upsetting us about because he said that now the witch hunting him and the foot in the minister of visitors in the united nations, had the god, yes, to say that from now on there is no place for balance positions. he's saying and that's only a fascist, would say that you are on our side completely or do you are on a oh your auto or input me. so i'm gonna have to cancel that, let me mention very quickly, a few things. first of all, just another start. i'm not allowed to guys or no, no, no, so out of it out of there. but getting a list out, enjoy those of them. they will not let them go together except of the outer behind those that are in the army. and this data failure was what the automated spinning the 2nd, the now i just didn't go a journalist in the bank. people who have been met. even people who have been interviewed just going in theaters then i noticed it because they had expressing

their views. and then i think, i think the stuff that i do, it was very clear to him. he, when he thought that the killing of his family was an act of revenge because of what he has been doing, honestly to report to what's happened and good guys. okay. um, i mean polarized media environment is not unique to israel, of course, but there's a level of conflict intensifies. it doesn't, it? it does. and that is why i want to re emphasize the importance of human rights, human rights versus the obligations of state stockholders and rights is also a universe. so there is a right to media freedom independence, free to run a diverse media. and that is being denied that has been, i run rough uh by uh, these really authorities and others at the moment. uh, some of the things that, which i think is a very, very dangerous. uh, president that is being created here and has been over the years. i agree that of

attention to the kind of thing and prop and the position that you brain wiped out for other conflict and not both. there's a lot of attention to them at least, and i hope that this is not going to be a transiency. it has to be solved. there's a deep root causes of this conflict that continue and the victims of that are the civilians. and because that's a people living in the west bank, this problem has to be solved. otherwise, i think the international community is only creating more problems of the future. and jody can i ask you about that, as well as the challenges of reporting and such and such a polarized media or environment. this is something, unfortunately, we say, internationally, it's particularly acute in this conflict. it's an environment in which people, uh, highly personalized are highly personalized attacks. so in addition to all of the

physical attacks that people receives as honey past nice attacks for those covering the conflict safe from outside garza and the west bank. and it's really important, and i, i want to emphasize this, that the job of a dozen messages go out and report the fives what they say outside we always talk about, you know, a job is not to, to take 2 views about whether it's raining is to go outside and tell you whether it's raining or not. i'm not really important. it's really important that we recognize that the job of done this is to report the facts and that people should not be targeted either physically online, harassed or receive any of the mistreatment for doing that. job's a most stuff, a very quickly the last the last question to you, but how challenging is doing palestinian diplomacy at the moment? how difficult, easy to get the posting invoice. uh to start difficult about there's nothing

possible and nothing good. this green us, we will keep doing whatever we can. we'll keep trying to figure out that the, the, this black forest of misleading information on separate occasions to bring that to light. so to the people to bring the tools to the people and i own was said to my colleagues, you need on the to do 110. so for those that are is due because the truth is on our side and i think we should not save any moment without trying to do that because this is what could to protect the lives of people who are being cut now out on the clock. when 5, when every 5 minutes of understanding and is, could've done every 10 minutes up at a student and try and lose his life. all right, folks were out of time, but thank you very much for your contributions. thanks to i guess, to jody ginsburg, the stuff about gucci and irene. com. and thank you to for watching. you can see the problem again. any time by visiting our website. i'll dra 0, don't com. the further discussion go to our facebook page, not facebook dot com,

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learn that she might never be able to return to the . ready the hello until mccrae. this has been useful in life from coming up in the next 60 minutes. no less often as well as bombing has gone to civilian areas, have been hit organized as the will inches. it's the 21st day. the united nations is wanting to know in concert as safe as the number of palestinians killed. the pos is safe and south of.