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the we speak with others to the comfortable side, the my, to where it takes a police. we have cnn empower impulsion. we tell your story, we are your voice news. your net out is here a more than a 1000000 children in gauze. if i stay the attack from is really bombs and missiles more than 3000 youngest. this'll be killed in 3 weeks in a campaign bank for the us and the west. what's the impact of israel's move on palestinian children? this is inside store, the color that own james bay's mold in the hoff of golf is 2300000 people are children
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living in fear of is ready. bombardment. youngsters also make up more than 40 percent of mold in 7000 palestinians killed sofa by his riley strikes. in most places, the noise of aircraft overhead would have children scurrying with excitement to scan the skies in gauze the sound of death and the place where childhood is already scott, by siege and war. for those who survive israel's attacks, the long term impact of such trauma is almost unimaginable. we'll be discussing all this with a panel of guess in a few moments. but 1st, this report from victoria gates and i would be smaller carries the body of his nephew, l. e s. through the streets of han, eunice, and southern gaza. the health ministry says more than $3000.00 palestinian children like alias have been killed and is ready to strike since october. the 7th of i know i'm the this is one of my nephews. my brother's wife and children were all killed.
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lead us was in just 2 weeks ago and because of the border crossing got closed, we couldn't move it for medical reasons and he died. there is no medicine for efficient to resubmit. the doctors did the best. busy for children make up nearly half of gauze is population of 2300000. the u. n. estimates that $400.00 children are being killed or injured in his range. a tax every single day. you just, you just the, you said you didn't. this out though, i lost that i pulled, there is right. you armies recording victories over children knowing full well that it would not achieve its real goal. god is our only solace. to mandatory and agencies had documented trauma and palestine and children hands on before this world. again the, these are a new patient and brocade, previous conflicts and the cubic 19 pandemic. just some of the challenges they've
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been jude initialize. now they face a battle for survival in a place where the un says civil order has collapsed because it is on the brink of a must have, has, as i, as a risk of diseases, i don't mean doesn't, is being stronger. the people of gaza is shown underneath it. and then both of those is $1000000.00 children to being killed or injured, forcibly displaced and collectively punished innocent victims in an increasingly fruitful, more victoria gates and beef inside story the . so let's bring in all the tests to discuss all this and i'm on, it's tanya hodge. hassan. a pediatric intensive care. doctor who's worked in gauze i. she co founded gauze at medic voices a social media account. but she has 1st time testament is from health care workers
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in the strip in occupied east jerusalem. we have jason leave the country director of save the children in the occupied palestinian territories. and in london, yara age, which unless to spend her childhood in gauze at finding too old for spending your time with us. if i can start with you, jason, just to get some context here about the population of casa 2300000 people put about, ha, for children. is that right? absolutely. you have the majority of people with disabilities living in government . now being a child, the 1400000 people have flipped the homes and the children and the sheltering wherever they can, there is no place and got the same right now. the bombardment, the strikes have continued to know in the south where the situation where the civilian does tall us in more than 7000 civilians. almost 3000 of those big
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children. we're now having a situation where one child shall be 13 minutes. because one child, every 13 minutes, the last numbers of civilians of the engine more than 18 and a half 1000 again, 100, every 3 of those being a child. every country disproportionately affects children ever seen yet again in this country. ready without paying him his price with the lives with the engine and not to mention the scar, they will carry with them to the remainder of the lines. a dr. tania, you worked in gaza. so we're talking about about a 1000000 children who are in go so under this relentless is riley bombardment in 3 weeks in we have 3000 children killed. that means israel in 3 weeks is killed about a 1000 children a week. this is the 5th cause of war. we saw horace from those previous was did you
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think it could ever get to this? i mean, i don't think anybody's mind should go there it's, it's really her effect. you know, a few days ago eunice suffers for release. the report this was 700 children ago since then we've had 700 further children die. they said, and i quote the situation, the gaza strip is a growing stain on our collect the conscience, the rate of death and injuries of children is simply staggering. and i think that's, that's the way most people who listen to the news in that region would react. it's, it's, it's staggering and it is a stain on our collective conscience. and, you know, these aren't just just numbers. i know these, these are children with families, parents who loved them. siblings identities, hopes, dreams, subjectivity, an inner world. and there's a risk of reducing them to numbers because we get habituated to hearing these,
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these numbers. but you know, just like is really children have biographies, families identities, hopes and those have been shared with us these over 3000 children. and i just want to clarify that number is the children that were able to count in those statistics . there are over $900.00 children in the gaza strip that are missing right now. we're missing from the that figure right now because they have not, their bodies have not been able to be retrieved from under the rubble. so we're talking about over 4000 children likely at this point. and i, i completely agree with you in this stuff. this is a growing stain on our collective conscience. yara, these clearly all numbers for you, you grew up in the gaza strip these up friends and family members of over the last 41, members of my family and 2 of my colleagues and from the for like fun. but 1st, can i please express my condolences. this is awful. and for the
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41, members of my family, you know, so 17 of them are children and the student during were really loved. you know, they were the light in our farm. indeed, i used to be besides most of them, whenever i went back home, i would, i would be the babysitter, you know i, i had so many memories with them. every single one of them had dreams. every single one of them, how those special ed director and the, or wherever chair for despite everything they've been living through, you know, the children are the reason why i wanted to become a journalist and the 1st place. because, you know, usually their voices are those that are not her them, they're unable to articulate what they're living through. and as, as a kids my status, when i was a kid i, i felt thought, you know, i feel like the more work doesn't care about me as a bonus to me and kid. and i genuinely think the, you know, is really still in my childhood. is there as doing all of my memories from being
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a good, you know, is there any thing my childhood that i was 14 years old when i sold, keep it a good thing, cut into pieces and front of my eyes. i was only 8 years old when i 1st experienced her and, and then you know, i talk so my school, i remember i would never forget. i was doing my arabic exam or with final exam. i was in grade city, and next to or it is cool. there was a very severe bomb. and i remember my teachers just, you know, panicking and i'm seeing all of the children crying. and this was the 1st aggression and all the on right now we're in 2020 city and we're seeing, you know, this is the 6 aggression since 2008 and published and got the other kids. uh if we're only gonna, um, you know, look at the kids. um every single one of them not more than 90 percent of palestinian children are um you know, suffering from good of the meeting to did on why. but there's was most of my
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relative for adults out there. most of the kids in my family and our friends, you know what we've been living through and god, the not just starts on the 17th of october. this has been my whole life. you know, i grew up with the salt, the bombs more than the sound of birds. i grew up, you know, being scared of the song of the airplanes to now, i'm in london and there's airplanes locked in london. and i'm still, you know, suffering from severe pity as visa, even when the fire alarm goes off. i knew loud noise driggers me. i've been trying to get the treatment for my beach as the for the last 7 years. and i'm not even close to being, you know, treated from what i've seen on the horror effect and, you know, across the do the be committed against me and my people. and every single more i almost got the kids, you know, i'm just feeling very lucky that i'm still alive. but every single published in china didn't got the never said that they can be, you know, i live for the next moment or not jason,
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we mentioned lots of figures at the start of this program and we know it's over 3000 children. killed the big, it may be much higher is was bringing up the fact that there have been challenges to those figures present. biden's saying i have no notion the policy is a telling the truth about how many people all till he went on. i'm sure, in a sense of being killed, it's the price of waging a war. can i ask you to weigh in on the figures? because off the said that the ministry of health produced this, which is a list of all those that died. a very detailed list with all of the names of those that have been killed and all of that, the channels uh, from your perspective, up from, from, from, from your organization save the children. what do you make of these official statistics that come from the ministry of public health? do you think they are accurate? let's just be clear on that. you know, so to talk to the tardies have been running the health system because of the last 16 years. and when you look through the previous escalations,
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which unfortunately they have been many, the figures that have been released by the ministry of public health. in fact, the authorities in costa and ministry official. when you compare those to the official u. n. c, release. the pretty much identical, the slight variations, but again, these are very small a number, but then pretty much accurate. so when we look through again, historical evidence, on what has the ministry been producing and sitting in previous escalation with what you end up is there, there is no discrepancy between them. so the thing is that again, not being used all the ones that until now have not shown to be discredited in any way, shape or form. and unfortunately, the previous account was escalations that have taken place in casa. you are a one of the most disturbing things i've heard in recent days. and there's so much disturbing information that we will consuming is the fact that families now uh, splitting the children up and putting them in different places. so whole family doesn't get wiped out. and also the parents are writing children's names on their
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arm. so if they all killed, they can identify them and the others are putting identity bracelets on that children. this is shocking. you know, this is not the 1st time that this is happening. unfortunately, it is the most brutal and most barbaric i talk and got the, you know, of your life. and, you know, children are literally more than 70 percent of all the people have been kids and cause with these are children and women. so what's happening is that clear, you know, a violation of international law, but this is been like my life funeral. i remember in 2014, my mother is a new on staff member and on a real staff member and she has to be working to help. there are a few jews or you know, being displaced on seeking shelter and on our records. the are supposed to be safe, but as we know, is there a good keeps bombing, those on our school isn't nowhere, and god is actually safe. but even then my mom took my brother was there in 2014,
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and i had to stay with my father. even though i was a 14 year old that was crying. i was like, normal, my like you complex. i need to come with you. we have to be together as a family and she said, yeah, it's me i'm, it's so dollars. my brother gets killed in general. you on your dog have to be alive. you know, we have to split to and this is just my story, my find me complete families are doing the same thing, you know, splitting their families and halls. and sometimes, even if they split the family didn't have, the whole family is being wiped from the souvenirs history. you know, so many families have been completely obliterated. only from like family 41 members . and you kind of mazda and, you know, my family is a big family, but you can imagine all of the other families that are smaller. um, you know, this writing the children, you know, when i'm think about the know when i think back to my childhood,
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then i really the trauma that i was living and i honestly cannot even put it into words. what i said, there's a child in general. i and i didn't even understand what this month. i didn't understand the destruction. i didn't understand my parents, you know, tried to, to, to make me understand what's happening. but you know, it's only it was when i was 14 that the realize what, what the law says meant. and when i was really, you know, cult and know most of her and i survive by americans. but that's when i realized what it means to be between the life and death situation, you know, and so many of these children are having to, you know, is like, you know, they're not children anymore. they're having, you know, one of my should my cousins, children, she's the only survivor from the her whole family. cuz this is 3rd, both grand parents, both parents work and highlight is only 8 years old. she's gonna grow up without any member of her family. you know her uncle's we're good, we're on, we're good. and i didn't know i'm unable to talk to her. i don't know what to tell
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her. i don't know. i don't know how she's feeling. i can never even imagine what she has to go through. you know her sisters, her whole memories, she's only a century has to lift for the rest of her life without her parents and her, her sisters, you know? and then those pictures are the only art printing, but there um, as the doctor said, you know, it is a state or consciousness on it. the stain on the, on the, to money to for lifting this continue for more than like, you know, 20 days. it's not like, you know, one must victor that has been committed in one day and we could have stopped the know, is there a continuous domestic or church during that the fingers are continuing to increase? we're seeing horse a quarter of the guns from the on the ground or risking their own lives to produce these pictures is graphic pictures of trends. and you know, we use the not only brit cards like i'm literally unable to sleep since that goes
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from start to i barely sleep $2.00 a day because of those pictures. the whole to me and the world is just watching. you know, by then is there giving the green line to do is read to continue what they're doing most are printing mouth occurring truth written. you know, i'm just, i'm sure, you know, i, i never thought a genuinely book, you know, or we're gonna be this harvard book everything and published in the end right now feels like this is not our world, you know, we don't know. well, let me but let me bring it and tanya on this because we've talked about the bombardment, but of course, the other factor here is the aide not getting in very limited aid on the specific, but the not allowing in these riley's is fuel. from your perspective as a doctor, how important is few for those hospitals for keeping the hospitals running for running things like ventilate, has and if you bite has been able and babies. yeah,
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thank you for that question. um, i just want to address a couple of things that were shared in the last few minutes um, by my co speakers today. you know, just in reference to what yada was saying earlier. and to put things in context for viewers. a child of age 11 today would have lived through 4 major bombardments up until this point. and then in reference to something else that we were just discussing, you know, there's, there's a deep sense of being alone by gardens and palestinians in general that i've spoken to. so colleagues that i have in the field in gaza, who have sent messages saying, you know, we feel like 2 days ago, one of my colleagues sent us a message to say, we feel like the whole world has come together to eliminate us. and nobody's listening to us and the world is deaf to our suffering. and i think, you know, 1st of all, i think that should be very alarming to the people listening to this program today . but i also think it's reflective of, of a particular type of, of,
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of psychological trauma. a feeling completely isolated and feeling like the world is, is um, voluntarily silence to your pain and suffering. one of my colleagues today said the in gaza said the whole world is watching us getting get it, getting massacred on tv. and so just silently watching. um and so just in reference to the, the uh, number question that you provided to jason from save the children, you know, i think kind of discrediting the depths is part of that that dehumanization. and so i just wanted to make that point and thank you for allowing me the opportunity to do that. yeah, i'm, i'm just, i'm not on your own on the specifics of not allowing of fuel in as a doctor. how is that going to impact the medical situation on the ground? so just just for context, fuel operates, everything from the ambulances that go to collect people from under the rubble to
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go pick up a pregnant women who are delivering or, or others were having heart attacks. you know, it's, it's, we rely on our parent medic services in normal time. so you can imagine in times of crisis like this, how important having fuel for that is fuel was needed to bring the aid, the very little age that is coming in to the locations it's needed to be delivered to and then on a hospital level, fuel operates just about or electricity actually more accurately operates just about everything and myself, special fee, which is a critical care medicine from fence leaders to monitors, to infusion pumps. and without those things, you cannot run an intensive care unit. and without those things, patients who are without electricity, and i want to make the distinguish distinction between fuel and electricity because the electricity supply has been cut off of gaza strip and fuel is really what's needed to operate the generators, which in a pre october, 7th times are the backup system for the hospitals, electricity,
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so it would be needed to operate ventilator is if a patient is dependent on a ventilator, which many of patients and intensive care are, and you cannot operate the ventilator or suddenly you run out of fuel. those patients will die. it is a death sentence. they are unable to breathe based off like a die. the same is true for patients towards dependent on dialysis. there's a when a over a 1000 patients who are dependent on on dialysis. and if we cannot operate the dialect, dialysis machines, those patients unfortunately will die. the same is true for new needle unit swear newborn babies are, are um, are taken care of. and newborn babies are often and incubators are off and on breeding machines, all of these things require electricity. and the 2nd, the generators can no longer provide that electricity because the fuel has run out . those new born premature babies will die. and we know there more than a $130.00 of them. and so it's essentially a lack of fuel is an ultimate death sentence on multiple levels. and i sort of
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talked about the hospital intensive care level of things, but there's also, you know, be crease of closed down because they don't have fuel to operate the bakeries and decrease are needed to provide fuel fuel water sanity water, d solid d selling nation plants cannot function because again, they need to electricity to be selling it the water. so even gauze is internal in abilities to, to provide drinking water are, are stifled. so let me, let me and let me bring in jason now on this because the all the additional factor to all of this is but they're all people on the move everywhere and gaza in part because israel is threatening them telling they have to move, but also they're trying to find some what sites i'm planning. there is no safe place in golf. so i looked at some of the un statistics. they said about a 1000000 people this placed include 4750 pregnant women, 390 postnatal cases, requiring medical attention to the un saying they're increasing the identifying
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acute respect, treat and diarrhea among children on the 5. tell us about those in the hospital, but those that of the medical care and the ordeal that facing jason. clearly the more we estimate this by 1400000 people reflect the higher the sheltering wherever the schools, us sicily, the public buildings, hospitals of the infrastructure. the people are moving to in the south and those even the remainder of the no kennel co, with the numbers of people. the 650000 got a huge amount of people trying to sell to and 150 shelters in south and was not built for the capacity. many of the shelves has a hosting up to 4 times as many people as the windows full. that means there's no food in that, sorry, is that it would suffice a food that of course, the cause of water and bathrooms facilities. in one sense, the 16 bathrooms for about 25000 people and the water is
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a yukon flush. there's no warranty to maintain hygiene practices. there's no water to drink. again, i want to reach you a few of this critical to ensure that the, some of these other nations pots were the pumps of working to actually bring up the ground water, civilians and children. i know resulting to drinking brackish water will say like water because there's not enough fresh water for them to drink. now, even the change to the south, i mean, the many people still remaining but no because it has not been safe for them to move. despite the valuation orders to move to the south region to the south as parents, my own teams, and that finally had to flee from their homes and the know to take shelves in this . now, i can't tonya tonya um, we had a warning in recent hours from the head of on road. that's the u. n. agency that deals with palestinians. the commission to general felipe lorine and he's now
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saying things could get even worse. he says there was a risk of serious disease and starvation with that is certainly true. i think you have, you have thousands of people sheltering as jason was saying in, in environments that are meant for a very small fraction of that number sharing the same laboratories and drinking on hydronic water. we already know that there's been a spike in dire real disease or illness amongst children in, in the gaza strip. we don't have reports of cholera yet, but the, an outbreak of cholera in the sort of dense settings would be catastrophic. and, and, and unfortunately in the circumstances, this is not uncommon at all. and so, yeah, i think there, there we, we know there's been an, and an uptick and, and chicken pox and other contagious diseases. as a, as a consequence of people living and very close proximity sheltering altogether in these types of settings. we're coming near the end of the program. i'd like to get
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the last word to yara. yara, given what we're hearing this desperate stories about the plight of people in garza and particularly children in gauze, if you were able to speak to president bikes and right now on behalf of the children in gaza. what would you tell the president of the united states right now? the hello certainly started by saying that i'm shocked by your auctions. you know that you have blocked in the wrong. you are literally not only a being a genocide, an ethnic cleansing of bombs, binion's, but most of them are children. and that those children will never forgive you. you know, these children are becoming, you know, or friends are either being cared or either, you know, but, but even if we think this is, there is an immediate cease fire which you have as a president. you have such a responsibility of the work leader and a leader. you don't the only award leader, but also the president of one of the,
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you know, the strongest and more power, most powerful countries in the world. you have responsibility, you know, with all of your a freedom of speech, things on your own, the rights and the how we talked about democracy, the could see you blame your democracy. how are you a thing that's on the side of it, said palestinian children, you know, even if you called for a ceasefire, which you have been objecting. hon. you've been doing a ceasefire for, for palestinians in gaza. you know, even if they're the ceasefire, these children, their lives, you know, it's card for ever, and i am one of those children. i was one such i've, i've lived through these things. i've lost so many people from my family. i didn't even see my family for 6 years, even when i left because it's not like this is the new situation. you know, all of these lives, all of these lives, all of these dream you are responsible for, for the, for these things you don't, you are doing exactly what is the way it is doing. you know,
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you're off your thank you thank to trying to thank you so much for your time. this was a most depressing conversation, but thanks so much to our panel for joining us, tanya. how show son jason lee? you all are aid. you'll find much more about the goals of war, and you can watch this or any other of our programs. again, if you go to out, is there a don't. com? also we want to know what you st postal comments on facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash h a inside story. and you can even tweet test, although now it's cold x not twitter. we're at a inside story. i'll be back in this chair very soon from all the team here. stay safe, bye bye. for now, the, the expos $2023.00. the fascination for sign or
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