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hello that i can change the space in 3 weeks of war. the united nations security council has failed to take any decision of israel's relentless attacks. on 2300000 policy ends in gaza. it's a security councils like the cabinet of the united nations. the general assembly is its paula with the voice of the world's nations. on friday it's spoke loud and clear with an overwhelming vote against israel's bombardment have gone. so what influence will the 1st effective measure of official international opinion have on israel and its main ally the united states? could it have any impact on ending the we'll, we'll be discussing all of this with our panel of guess in a moment. but 1st, victoria gayden be has a report on the u. n. vote on gasser at almost exactly the same moment as the us ambassador was addressing the united nations general assembly. quoting for a humanitarian trees between israelis and palestinians. israel began its most intense bombardment of gauze as since the will began. ca, single phone and internet services across the strip and amendment sponsored by

canada and the us that would have added language condemning how mass was they to down. but the 193 member general assembly passed the main resolution offered by children in the our group is adopted it goals for an immediate trees, the release of all civilians and the uninhibited flow of humanitarian supplies into gauze and the general assembly prevent and send the appropriate message, not only to the power steering young people that there is justice and fairness, and international humanitarian law opposed to by the general assembly. but also it's send the message to everyone enough is enough. this war has to stop. us was the only major will power the voted against it, along with 13 other countries, including israel, $45.00 nations of stains. after the vote, israel's ambassador accused the un old and his woods,

insuring not preventing further atrocities. today is a day that will go down in, in inform me. we have all witnessed that the un no longer holds even one ounce of legitimacy or relevance the resolutions adopted in the general assembly and binding . meaning, israel could ignore it as it's done in the past. with few consequences, 3 weeks into the conflict, the un has finally spoken with one voice. but even with overwhelming support, it's unlikely the resolution will end the bombardments have gone to victoria gates and be for inside story the. well, let's discuss more on all of this by our panel of guess. and in ramallah, we have had on a schwab or a policy and political leda and full. i'm a member of the palestinian liberation organization executive committee. she was also a member of the public and your delegation to the middle east. peace talks in the

19 nineties and johanna is book, ronnie cast, rails a full, the south african government minister, a leading member of the african national congress during the apartheid era. and, and it's all about, it's maliyah ludy who served as pockets stones, ambassador of the united kingdom, the united states, and the united nations. we have a most distinguished panel. thank you very much for joining us on inside story boss of the lady. molly, how can i ask you 1st about the general assembly because you served as pocket stones ambassador to the united nations? that will be people here who say the general assembly doesn't have any power. it doesn't do. and the thing you, during your time is the ambassador, you're actually one of the vice presidents of the general assembly. so tell me why the general assembly is important. and i think the general assembly is important because when there's a deadlock in the security council, as we saw when several resolutions didn't get through of the ritual or theme that stopping or the bloodshed, or at least getting a humanity in phones. then the agenda. somebody kicks in,

it's often guard the parliament of the word with every country has one vote. and that's a, a body that really does reflect global opinions of the security council. dr. world has only made up a 15 members of the general assembly was a 192 members of does demonstrate what the word is thinking. and i think what we saw in this resolution of the work for the resolution was where the word was standing. it was standing on the right side of history. it was conveying that it wants an end to the black chair to the cottage, to the genocide that is going on. and it was a bill to those members of the security council who used to be to the united states a try met a need to prevent any kind of a cease fire or any kind of a board into fighting. so i think ok, so there is a solution is non binding, but i think the force of public opinion and global opinions is extremely important

. and the word has spoken and it has spoken decisively against is running. and it has spoken decisively in favor of peace. okay, i don't know, sorry if i could talk to you about the resolution itself. it took a lot of negotiation led by jordan to the our group. let me just read out what it called for an immediate durable and sustained humanitarian truce. but it also cold of, for she amount of terminate to come in immediate, continue a sufficient and on hindered. and interestingly, it's specified what should go in water, food, medical supplies, fuel, and electricity. this would be, would it not for the product senior people. wonderful. if this was actually complied with a yeah, i wouldn't say it's one lesson, but it wouldn't be beginning to undo the injustice and damage and violence that has been inflicted on the palestinians of gas and times of the ending is done aside.

been cj and prevention of all normal decline on children, not in their life, strictly speaking. so yes, it should have taken place that it shouldn't be even on the question on about. it's not a chapter except the chauffeur powers in the west. and given them sense that i do think decisions over life, and that's over 2000000 that a student comes. this is incredible. rodney, when we saw that votes and it's done with electronic voting and the un general assembly wills, really a snapshot of international opinion where each country stands, every single ambassador or rep, rent, representative, representative, had to say, where they stood on the war in gaza. were you surprised by the way the boat went? no, you know the tool, because we see a month and that is what will be pinions about. and we see, and they get no mess response to this gross criminality. because honest is ro mr.

board the united states and others give it. so was not surprised. i was very pleased to see that we had the to fit majority. can you imagine if we can set that up, can be the, please the say this up is ro and the support is with a being. this is a huge model plugs to those criminals and it show that the palestinian people that people have because they are and lots of those that the world stands by them. i believe let me just actually read out the list of the 14 countries that voted against this. that was all straight croatia. check here. fiji, guatemala hungry, marshall islands. micronesia. narrow papa. new guinea power. quite tongue guy. and then of course the us and israel. what do you make of those list? the, the fact that the us didn't even manage to get some of it's very close to stylize

like the u. k. i'm friends developed with them. what i think it was very significant that countries like france of a permanent member of the security council broke ranks with the united states sorted a silver and other european countries like spain, like quote, you go and, and others. so i think that just goes to show that the united states is increasingly isolated in the international community with the united kingdom. it's 9 a ally of student in the vote. so i think this is a very strong message to washington. the message is very clear, the word wants to blush it to stop. and president biden by encouraging it is right, is really becoming complicit in what is going on. and i think that's how, what opinion is going. it's not just in the general assembly. you look at the streets, not just the out of the street. you look at the street across the word,

what are the largest demonstrations as taking place in london? they've been lots demonstrations in my country pocket stuff. so i think the message shouldn't be responded to, and i think the united states should shift goals now. add to the side of peace and justice. hold on, i'm going to redo the quote from these riley ambassador and he made this quote. in the general assembly, i'd like to know your response. we know there is no humanitarian crisis in accordance with the international humanitarian law. he said that in the general assembly, despite what we'll can see to what others as being allowed to fly as it see this ingenuous sometimes of trying to deceive the wife once again. when everybody guessing that it plainly, the hardest advice occurs. the gentleman started the policies, not bombing sending destruction. it's just incredible that they say we know. so

they assume that everybody would fall in step and say, yes, i'm class and it's not the 1st time. listen a james, this is i'm ok with the man by isn't in particular, is that it has to this day and for the you and it has always described it as and his riley or whatever. but it has never implemented a single new under zillow. so not one and most of the repo repo is exercised by the u. s. went down and on down to say is that it's from any kind of accountability or constraints. so that's, that's the medi thing. this kind of cut and i've just the suspect to understand even and sort of to the international community as symptomatic. oh, is it an acting outside the law feeling that it can act with one impunity? that nobody was on the account on the other side that it can always lie? and the lies to become a game and life on the,

on every cumber basis of policy. as happened there likely with the us and on the is the manufacturer news done and saw just that the palestinians. so i think this kind of this thing is expected. but at the same time what, what makes me very upset and on the stands is that there's no that i'm know kinds of consequences. that is not the things to be paid. what does the whole world? as maria said, this has been kind of doing and saw i'm for us bunch, wait, wait, hold on, sit back and accept this. why can't it enforce? there's no enforcement to the high place ability, its decisions. and we saw that if that's a constant blockage of you and decisions that the security council in order to bring about peace, then the assembly games, it's united for peace resolution games affective powers. but so far we haven't seen

it. and i think that so long as it is treated as a debating society and so long as it's not a constant treated without the account, then how can we hold this into account and how can we stop this mexico, this comment ralone, can i move briefly away from cause so do you think this has implications for western influence? the western diplomats have spent so much political capital over the last 18 months, trying to get support for ukraine, trying to get the global south to come on board with ukraine, how they expended a loss of that right now with what many will say is double standards the co absolutely but proceed. they failed in relation to the cray. the african countries refused to main bravo, beaten into the sessions were g that the us and the you were forcing done of threats and with the hell of star. and this will be even more

magnified because what the global saw clearly see is the complexity of the phone. the colonial power was with the u. s. i the imperialist power that wants to most of and dominate the world. but this shines through, it really affects the total view of people that the global self and not continue in, in africa, even where the upside is. the ceasefire issue of other aspects we african states of duty into telling the us so the you long legged rankles. they see that he proceed. they see the racism and in the house, streets throughout the confident as throughout the global. so even in a place like india, you can see the video box so outraged at this absolute slow

to that the us site and the you states those wisdom, the was a party to they all criminals. and we must find the way to weeks. so in sure that, that, you know, we, we spend next week not going to go along with a guide. it's vital about, it's crucial, believe i want to bring you in on this and the whole idea of double standards and on the west. because you have a unique perspective, not only where you focused on some boxes of the united nations, you will also call costanza and pass it up to the united states and you and bye, so actually school high commissioner to, to the united kingdom. so give us your perspective on. ringback it's no be known that the west of the us led west has practiced double standards. they talk about human rights in the country that they are opposed to. but they don't really show much concern for human rights. i mean, in my neighborhood,

my country's neighborhood, there is the, the issue of occupied crush me, which like that is dying, isn't occupied territory and is also seen huge violations of human rights. but we've not heard any sound or any comment from wisdom countries about these violations. so i think what this will do is to bring into much shop and release the kind of double standards in the book to see that many wisdom countries i think would be unfair to club for wisdom countries together. some have stood for by this time, for example, i'm and i think it's taking a very great just a position. so i think one has to be live together. but i will see that what it does reinforce is the shift in global insurance up from the us led western block of countries to the rest. so i think increasingly, we will see in a much more multi border setting, the fact that insurance at the global level is not just a monopoly of

a handful of countries that have tried to actually to bottle the world of my go panelists, browbeat others into funding in line, what country is no longer want to fall in line because they want to exercise, they don't supplement, right? to say what the please act the way they please. and to act in the case of palestine on the right side of history on the side of justice and on the side of fitness. i think it's also us are bulky, too old, but when we saw of the debates in the general assembly before the vote, we actually with watching it, i was sitting in the studio and now is there a watching it live? and so little tenuously in a most remarkable split screen moments that was the oldest slope going on in gauze or in fact the us ambassador was speaking, giving her speech. i know now to 0. in another screen, we could see really desperate images of explosions and gaza. colleagues, one sided resolutions, whether they are put forward in the security council,

or the general assembly will not help to advance piece, not when they, nor the facts on the ground. so that we have it. the us ambassador, speaking in the general assembly, and at the very same moment those pictures hold on was that an active is really defiance. is that how some, in the general assembly we'll see it. i wonder even what the us ambassador made of that going on while she was speaking. it will look, i think it's not the 1st time that the, that is the sort of the, this number is a, the us or some, it's knows that the us on it one, somebody us is it's for the blank support, unlimited funds, more lessons and so on. even including the fact that they want the us to find a tour on that to be have. so i don't know what that is can it's actually done to now does the on site special or not. but i think it exposes,

instruct in the poker c. and the i would like to do a go back to him for him to these by many of that. it's not on the students, it's not, it's mainly the west stuff. and it was involved in for long have systems, particularly in the south and buttoned out part of the one that is now behaving with that evidence on the colonial mentality. the white mass right then the fact that the victim is invisible and that they have to be the other nights and they come and draft something they can take possessions pertaining to that i just of that on victims. so this is an ongoing buttons, frankly speaking, that stuff is even more invest with the creation of the state. them isn't on the stadium. 9 and 194748, and then continued with a new one. jack is that it can do no wrong is no, no, of course is a colonial outpost and it has continued. is that it must never be had the account.

it must be given preferential treatment, widely published in the us, out of some human species that we can take and we can be invisible. we get them and they, and they kind of you and have to measure the process. the whole process of the education on ethnic cleansing, i've done this time, is something that the west has a embrace to, to speak is to become a western enterprise. and then that sense, i think we, i'm not seeing the end of colonialism on the country and these are not to them. that's, this is, is that a active system? oh, white supremacy of colonialism, of a sense of entitlement cd ought to be. and this has to be an actual written as well, and as a, as being in a way that certainly within danger why one speech and certainly within danger, all of these systems that weren't created to edwards based order, ignoble, do not law and so on. because it, it stays outside of it and if you have

a international remind me that in law and the dimensions on, all sorts of conventions are human rights and so on that much they must have a way of making the effective otherwise we would continue to be extra week of semester of the song, of the noise and been invested in the countries of the white supremacist and continuing to victimize the global sauce. whether they cannot make clear or politically, armando, even i'm getting away with it because they have the instruments of power that have natalie instruments of accountability and control. i'm curbs. ronnie, let me bring out what actually seems to have happened on the ground in gaza when we sold those explosions, those dramatic explosions that took place at the same time as unbiased as we're meeting in new york. in addition to the water being caught, the electricity being caught up low fuel coming in very limited aid coming in. now

it seems the goal is there is going black to the world of the cell phone services. internet services have been cut. what do you make of this latest blow by israel to the people of gaza? well, it's not part of the most a plan. they went to cut gods out of the world in time they, they went to black it out. if i could just make a comment about the coming incidents last night when the, the, this debate was taking place at the rate. i think that was absolutely deliberate. it's is a rope and it's invested at the un splitting into the face of the world, showing that we bought the boss, those that we don't care the thing about the rest of the world and we are going to destroy pallets that we deal with goes up and we will kind of goes up entirely, the surviving cup of stadiums going to be in the desolate,

etc. so this is what the game is type to be. but i believe that the well the voice together with the sub but the resistance of the palestinian people will prevent that happen then that's vital. that's the message we must. we'll send to the world for the last night that she lives in big about molly, i'm certainly the, some of the consequences of the internet and the phones being cut off means that people cannot ring for ambulances. it means that you and agencies, agencies comp speak to that stuff, they can't do that work june. this kind of reports and get the news out as a form. i'm positive to the un. do you believe these are additional war crimes bias ro? oh, there's no doubt about it, i think is right, has been committing more crimes for over 50 years. if dark more. but what it is

doing? no. i think it has completely defied international vignette. it has defied orleans norms of humanity. and what is going on is the kind of black shit that i think in modern history. we've not really witnessed this before. last, i think we also have must look at the consequences for those countries that have been back in missouri that i've been going on and on not getting about the beep or dying, and the civilians who are dying in the 2 thousands in garza. but they've been going on and on about is res, right? to defend itself, defend itself. this is defense where you're taking the lives of innocent people. i think they will be consequences for these countries that border, the confronting of crisis, the credibility of humanity. and actually, i think they don't people, uh, certainly if you look at some of the demonstrations which are going on in cities in the united states itself,

you'll see the public opinion. there also is watching with honda and anguish about how their own government is encouraging. a country that is guiding though it's like tensing by by i mean millions of people are being affected by this. not in can i bring you in on, on, on that point. but molly has made about protest around the world because of that we've seen very, very large protests taking place all over the world. in fact, we saw one in grand central station very near the un, which was jewish people come painting to stop the war. do you think this protests are going to have an effect? maybe even more of an effect then evoked in the un general assembly suddenly and yes, i am such as it is, i wouldn't have an exact because they jewels voicemail or piece of the as not. now up to the organizations that timeframe active for some time, including others, jewish organizations that we have worked with for years. i remember before we used

to come in for a demonstration on how reprocessed incentives i could be for now we'll have thousands. they went into the cafeteria into congress that occupied congress. they went into that center of the station and the thousands and they made the committee the spectacle i'm, they gave her. the nice thing is an essential in all my support that you, i'm not that know that the jewish people of conscience are standing with you. this is very important because isn't it? it wants to claim that it stands for on to speak, something about her own jew samsung. and then all do is our designers, photos you assume, and it's a genocide, the policies, but that's not true. and they stood up and they stood on the side of justice. now that impact would not only be sent in is right, but it is being sent clearly in the u. s. i mean, look at the public opinion polls. the ratings of mind them have come down and obviously as a result of his blind support to visit and,

and his and blaze. all of these work times on his answering partnership with these more kind of and i think ultimately the international criminal court should look at these things, not just the same, the profit right does, but that the apartments on support is on their neighbors. and so let me, let me bring in, bringing ronnie quickly running. um we don't have much time left, but people power. how important do you think it can be this point? a well distorted recall what happened in the struggle against a budget, so that for cash, rather similar to the symmetric government, wanted to know all the resolutions, the united nations and the pro, destroying the world. it built up to it in critical part of the people's power and getting sub africa itself. and the one kind of the estimates, the power of international southern devotees, the power in the streets, the power to pressure arise. governance last,

the us luck from you guys. we had the same opponents enough to struggle against above date and even the end they were forced to buckle. so this is a very important west for a peaceful way to hi lee, to minute to wait. and we'll do everything possible to mobilize the forces that oh, growing and growing, and we will succeed in the and how that started. well that, for sure. thank you very much, ronnie, sign q to all our panel today. how to in a while, are you running customer sales? i'm only a lady if you joined us late, you can watch the whole program again or any of our other programs by visiting our website out. is there a dot com? do you have any views on our discussion? we'd like to hear from you. you can go to our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story for on x, that's twitter to you and me search for at a j inside story from all the team, please stay safe. i'll catch you very soon bye. for now

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