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as the situation in gaza escalate. we bring your expertise engine honestly for ease time use re u r. c. is that the, the, the bodies stevens have to styles south to where the, how much they've got to comply with international the israel can do what he really likes. and that's the reason why is well keeps behaving. so really i would say this particular operation somewhere between the crime against humanity and genocide, it was really important that there was a jewish boy saying not in our name. you don't believe that this kind of progression excuse, safer. it doesn't make is rarely safer state with us doesn't make just developments on out. just sandra. hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. are the wars we see today from gaza to ukraine? a sign of decline of american influence and power in the world? let's get to the bottom line. the more than

7000 palestinians have been killed by non stop is really bombing since the shock in our attack from us on october 7th. what about 1400 is really is were killed at about 200 others were taken hostage. the united nations has been warning about a huge humanitarian catastrophe, with millions of people innocent in this conflict, living under constant showing with no food, electricity, water, medicine, or fuel to keep the hospitals and ambulances running. but the un, which is lost about 30 of its own staff and gaza, has so far been ineffective. us president joe biden says he won't call for a cease fire or otherwise interfere in his really military plans even as pure as mount for a wider conflict in the region. and in eastern europe, the ukraine, russian conflict, brian's on also with no end in sight. so what are today's region conflicts telling us about shifting global power? is america still a nation whose position is matter to the rest of the world? or is it leaving a power vacuum that's being filled by other forces?

today we're talking with charles captain, a senior fellow at the council on borne relations professor of international affairs at georgetown university and author of the end of the american era, u. s. foreign policy and the geo politics of the 21st century. doctor corruption, thank you so much for joining us. this is a world and places in the world where american power used to matter. and i've just been reading your book again and wondering whether the contraction of america in the world is somehow creating these conditions. you know, i think there are 2 big develop and steve that are making world fuel policy terms, making the world feel like it's going upside down. one of them i think we saw coming and that is the diffusion of power, right? we used to live in a world dominated by the united states and it's democratic partners that representatives a 75 percent of global g d p. and we're now heading into the world in which power

will be the center, in which the number one power in the world within a decade or so will probably be china, india and may be number 2 in. the news is climbing the ranks. brazil getting stronger and stronger and this is just leading to the return of rivalries that come with multiple centers of power. the, everything that's happened and i think it, many of us did not see it coming. is the weakening of the liberal anchor of the global system. and in particular, with the political weakening that we've seen here in the united states with the political center in the united states. hollowing out with a liberal, populism on raw, in rise in both sides of the atlantic. and this, in some ways hampers the ability of the united states and its partners to anchor

this in an advent of all turn this moment in which there is an inflection, wind, a shift in the distribution of power to a much more novelty power. what you can call a poly centric world. so have these 2 things are combining to create a real sense of disorientation to within the is real, how mos conflict. now, president joe biden has refused to call for a ceasefire, refused to say he's going to intervene in any way and what the israelis are doing. we've also refused to call for a ceasefire in the ukraine, russia conflict, and i like americans to have a realistic sense of how that's perceived around the world and that there are other major powers. and i'll, you know, mentioned turkey and heir to one see the world differently. and are we in a situation where america is lost, the ability to be the great hedge, a monic benign power. and now other nations in the world are organizing against

that. as it picks one side of the other in these complex you know, i probably distinguish carefully between the warren crane and what's happening and in israel and the were of israel is in the middle of carrying out against some us in ukraine. i think what we've seen is a situation in which ukraine is suffering a ball act of aggression by russia and in which the united states and its allies have agreed to how you brain. but don't have boots on the ground. and in the end of the day, the u. s. has said this is ukraine's more a brand names are fine. i think a dining ukraine makes the final call about what it's more ends are. and if the ukrainians want to keep fighting and try to get back crazy and try to get back every inch or you premium territory, that's very right. but i do say that much of the global south is not taking

sides despite the fact that this is a ball active progression. and i think that is in many respects, a consequence of a world in which many immersion powers are hatching in which china is now the lender of 1st resort and much of the global cell in which 2 thirds of the countries of the world trade war with china, it connected with the united states. and so the country like india, like south africa, nigeria, brazil, indonesia. they don't want to take sides in what looks like a new era of east west rivalry. and as a consequence, they're sitting on the fence even though i think this is a war that is very clearly a word of aggression against ukraine in which countries, at least ethically and morally, should band together against russia. in the case of israel war with come, boss,

i think it's, it's more complicated in the sense that the israel palestine conflict is one in which there are doing verging opinions about morality, about ethics, about modality, about human real writes. that is divided into the united states and many other parts of the world war are quite a long time. and i think that's what we're seeing play out here. i think given the nature of the atrocities that come off carried out on october, 2nd, israel is seen as having a right to defend himself and having the right to respond with force. how his conflict plays out, however, will have a big impact on how the rest of the world reacts whether civilian casualties are next to a minimum. whether a flow is in to goss in the form of fuel medicine, food. whether we see in an effort to arrive at some sort of reasonable peace

process at the end of the conflict. right now we're in the middle of it, it's proving to be a very divisive blood. a tragic event from your experience, do you think is real? can go through the steps it wants to do right now in destroying hamas in the way of doing it and not have this conflict grow so far more significant in terms of numbers and scale. well, i think the president biden has, has got more or less writing and walk to fine line in the sense of supporting israel going to is real and the middle of the conflict providing military assistance to israel. but at the same time being very explicit and saying don't be blinded by rage dos, make the same mistakes the united states did after 911 where we

intervene in the, in afghanistan, and iraq and libya and syria. and in many respects, produced much more chaos. then stability, and i think it's a wise warning to israel because is really, is headed into a densely populated urban environment. under the best of circumstances. there will be significant casualties on both sides. the united states learn the hard way in a raw that military force is good at destroying things, but not very good at creating desire political outcomes. so i think that israel right now is trying to figure out how to balance its desire justified in my mind. to dismantle a boss with the reality that it's going to be a top floor and it has to play the long game and figure out what gaza will look

like afterward. what is the relationship with colleagues spinning is and the broader middle east will be like when the dust settles. we have long you right now as you and i are talking in washington, the foreign minister of china. he said he believes that israel's actions have now gone beyond the level of self defense and response. but is he, as you just said, essentially making a play to the global south. and again, taking advantage of this moment to maximize china's position of looking like the good player in the world. you know, i think the china is that is somewhat ambivalent about the war and the brain. and now the word that we see in the middle east, in the sense that the chinese have risen to a city to become a significant player on the back of geo political and g o e phenomena stability. and even though they've decided with food and supporter at least nominal way rushes

war against you brain, i'm not sure that they seen this as a net gain for china. and max is gain because this is leading to global fragmentation. it is leading to economic the coupling, and as intensifying, try this rivalry with the united states and the west. but i think you're right steve, that what china is doing here is in some ways attempting to stay out of these conflicts. yeah. at the same time, explain them to increase its standing in the global sat to play the role that contributed standing up to western in gemini, and in some ways i think it's, it's be responsible in doing so because it is a thing in a bad thing. rushes aggression against ukraine and rather than trying to play a more constructive role. busy in the middle east,

where there is helping to negotiate the release of hostages. figuring out how to limit damage of getting humanity or in assistance into gaza is how thank you, in some ways exploit the issue to try to raise its profile in the global south. and in some ways, i think as a consequence, its position is going to further inflamed the tensions that we see out there between the west, the united states. on the one hand, china on the other are truly i want to play a sound clip for you from secretary of state, tony blinking. let's listen. keep water, electricity. for children, for the elderly, for the sick. these are present improvements, new targets. he's heading them hard. this brutalization of ukraine's people is barbaric. so i'm just sort of interested in one the hypocrisy of the moment,

you know, talking about the same device as being used to turn something off and are not being able to talk about with regard to israel. and then trying to help the other side, why their response has been so pathetically small. well, you know, i think that the united states has made clear from the beginning that it has not, it's best to get the border crossing to egypt open to get a flowing has been discussing with israel howard prosecute to this war. as we were speaking about a few minutes ago, mr. biden said very clearly, don't mistake the same, don't make the same mistakes, we just don't be blinded by rage. so i think this is a, a work in progress. but given that the, the, the attacks on october 7 were over the top were atrocities. now you have women and children, grandmothers kidnapped,

be hostage in gaza. i think one can understand to some extent, israel rage and israel's response. but i do think that there is a middle ground here, and that involves a careful but strong military operation against a mosque leadership against a mazda fighters against the tunnels. the weapons depos width at the same time, efforts to protect civilians to get little fuel water medicine into gaza. so as to diminish and minimize the humanitarian emergency, there is an average employee unfold what how boss decides to use its own power. spivey and brethren as human shields, i guess my question to you is about the tyranny of a nurse. yeah. and the vested interest, the build up the don't want to see progress on these, you know, fragile geostrategic hot points. is that part of the game?

we have to accept it, we're always going to have certain nodes in the world to continually erupt like this as well. you know, i, as my friend and colleague richard hosp squared a few days ago in the middle east, things get worse before they get worse. and i think the message here is trying to build peace in the region, trying to get rock pro small between longstanding adversaries. it is very difficult business. i take my hat off to president obama for trying to reset their relationship with russia for attempting to decrease the animosity with places like iran and cuba. and he did, to some extent succeeded to some extent he didn't succeed. but i do say we have to keep truck and steve, we know from history, that peace does break out. right?

the french and the germans were killing each other for centuries. and you now drive from france, germany, and you see no border crossings. the united states has a relationship with its neighbors, in which the prospect of war is on thinkable, not in the realm of the possible pockets of peace do whatever. and so i think when it comes to the relationship between israelis and palestinians, when it comes to the relationship of the united states and china, we have to keep trying to push things in a positive direction. we know from history that the default position in their national politics is competition is rivalry in some cases is our driver. but we also know from history we met when you work hard enough. you can overcome. that is an admirable,

a feeling that things are slipping away. this is one of those moments doesn't historical inflection points that way. or i think we could go either way. we could see the 21st century slip toward geopolitical competition, d globalization of liberal populism. where we could look at the moment that we're in now and push the candle in back in the right direction. at this point, i think it's too soon to tell which way we're going to be here. present in finance, national security advisor, jake sullivan. just publish the $7000.00 word article in foreign affairs and it's focusing on the future of the world in america's place in it. one of the lines of, of many uh, is that the world is becoming more contested in the united states. cannot talk only with those who share its vision or values. and it made me wonder whether or not as you sort of look at what jake solomon is trying to communicate,

is the same moment of realism, where americans finally beginning to understand the limits of its power and capabilities. that isn't, in fact going to begin talking with other players with, with which it may not get along the way. because i haven't seen that as part of the, of the, by the administration's direction. certainly not the trump administration, but wonder whether you think the limits on american power are finally beginning to shape the way we think about what we can do in the world. well, you know, i would start by quoting the 1st sentence in, in jake's very interesting article, that 1st sentence was not thinking international politics is inevitable. and i would take issue with that analysis because i think some things are inevitable. number one, change in the distribution of power, right? we go back to the 17 hundreds and we saw how early world share from the east to the west. and europe in north america together,

had been at the top of the heat leading the pack for quite some time. we now see our beginning to shift from west to east and from work this out. that's going to make the world more difficult and more unpredictable. more on certain the united states is not going to be able to call the shots in the same way that it used to. we're going to have to get used to a multi polar world. we're going to have to get used to pearl isn't an ideological diversity because that's the world that we're headed toward. that seems to need to be inevitable. that haven't been said. i would agree with j that there's a lot of room for tainting that world and channeling a more di, centered world in a positive direction. but it will take working across to you with the ideological dividing lines. we now live, steve and the world. it is work in

a dependent and global life than ever before. many of the challenges that we need to face. oh, both as a country and as international citizens require broad based global cooperation. and that means working with countries with whom we may not share the same principles on the same values. i think the 5, the administration got off to a more ideal logic and start event was probably a advisable democracy versus autocracy with us or against us. now i think it's real life and it needs a more pragmatic, a more practical approach. but i do think that behind the scenes, the united states has been reaching out to china. we've seen a steady set of efforts for a cabinet officials to head to china. jake sullivan has twice and the recent past

met with the chinese leadership. i think there's a sense that we don't want to go down the rabbit full of a new cold war. let's see if we can't find ways of working with the chinese to meet global challenges, even if we may disagree with them about human rights, about democracy, and even about to your political issues in these days. let me just ask you finally in political science, we learned about predicting foreign policy, the continuity typically of policies from one administration to the next administration, regardless of political party. but it seems like that world is gone. and particularly when you look at a country like a ron, and if you weren't basically to say in your calculation that we should sit down and talk to iran. we've had a zigzag in those policies. do you think as you look at the few, the situation in america right now, which is part of that topsy turvy dimension that you started with at the beginning? do you suspect that we're not going to have continuity in american foreign policy

any longer that we're going to continue to see zigzags and instability and the way we approach and engage the world? you will see, you know, that this zigzag yet, and a rabbit state crap that you're referring to is a, if you go back to the cold, we're really beginning with f. d. r. 1941, pearl harbor, democrats and republicans came together and there was a wrought ideologically sensors bi partisan compact, that student behind a steady brand of american state craft. those days are gone. mainly because we've seen the hollowing out of the political center in the united states. and as a consequence, when power changes hands in washington from democrats, republicans, you get wild swings in foreign policy. i think that it is likely to continue depending upon who wins the next election, simply because there is

a fundamental ideological cleavage along partisan lies about america's role in the world. for me, i think the key here is rebuilding the american political center from the ground strengths in the united states starts at home. and i think the key to our future, both our domestic future and our ability to play a purposeful and effective international role is rebuilding bipartisanship. rebuild the consensus that is going to take getting merrick and working americans back up on your feet. well, we'll have to end it there. georgetown university professor charles, captain senior fellow at the council on foreign relations. thank you so much for joining us today. a steve my pleasure to join. so what's the bottom line beneath all this analysis, global strategy and us support for is really in ukraine and russia,

testing the west and the role of non state actors beneath all of that are real people and real families. one of our colleagues here at alex's here of the bureau chief and gods have just lost 4 members of his family after and his really airstrikes hit. what is really official said was terrorist infrastructure, wild goose family had already fled northern, gaza, as he was rarely had worn people to do, but they were killed anyway, after fleeing south. this is real. while has lost most of his family and there are thousands of other innocent people on both sides of this conflict who lost their families this month. yes, we should be thinking through policies and global crises and asking you how we got here. but sometimes it's just time to give our sincere condolences to those who have just lost loved ones. and that's the bottom line. the

simpler violence has been pushing palestinians out of the non sprint years, which is october. the 7th. it's been like nothing exceed before more than 200 people from where they stand for the one community in the occupied with the bank, with food to keep their maybe the shortest family had to run for think they've located us for 4 days. we couldn't bring in water tanks to drink. id is brothers and the families have relocated to the village of type, a 7 year old credit says he's the top of his class. i ask him, what's 3 plus 4?

he says it's suddenly. he says he misses who are the ones at the capital. i've always depended on a warm climate, but it's too cold here in the village of piping. there's also little reason glance, they can start a new life here, maybe the side would sooner and to. she would also learn that she might never be able to return to work out of their existence. it's load ship as a principal present, as a correspondence with the brakes and the story we want to hear from those people who would normally not get that voice is heard on the international news channels. one moment i'll be very proud all was when we covered the fullness quake of 2015 at the terrible natural disaster. and a story that needed to be told from the hall of the affected area. to be there to tell the people story, it was very important at the time. in 5432 mar,

upfront takes on the big issues. this isn't a one off you. something about a systemic issue here for black labs don't really matter in the police for unflinching questions is war with we're wanting to imminent rigorous debate. people are dying because of lots of medical treatments, challenging conventional with the fact that people are starting to get angry about this is in itself a sign of progress. join me, mark them on hills upfront one out 0. the the hello. and so rahman, you watching the all just it renews on life. my headquarters here in the coming up in the next 60 minutes desperation in gaza. thousands of hungry palestinians break into un warehouses, taking wheat flour and other basic goods. is there any as far as continued to

devastate garza but telephone.