tv Inside Story Al Jazeera October 29, 2023 2:30pm-3:01pm AST
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the latest news as it breaks kyle is what i can see over the balcony here and go towards the palestinian residence about what time the game goes up with detail coverage around $60000.00 people have arrived here cuz they're afraid and many here are blaming bench. i mean, nothing yet from around the well, joe biden was meant to meet with 3 out of leaders and jordan, but via essentially cancel. i went to the us president was not prepared to call for the c spine, the united nations general. assembly votes overwhelmingly for cease fire and guns that it came that precisely the same time as israel was launching its fears since attacks. yes. with a vote showing israel and the us mostly isolated over the war kind of world public opinion make a difference. this is inside story, the
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hello that i mean jane space in 3 weeks of war. the united nations security council has failed to take any decision of israel's relentless attacks on 2300000 palestinians in gaza. if the security council is like the cabinet of the united nations, the general assembly is its parliament, the voice of the world's nations. on friday it's spoke loud and clear with an overwhelming vote against israel's bombardment of gauze. what influence will the 1st effective measure of official international opinion have on israel and its main ally the united states? could it have any impact on ending the we'll, we'll be discussing all of this with our panel of guess in a moment. but 1st, victoria gayden be has a report on the u. n. vote on gossip. at almost exactly the same moment as the us ambassador was addressing the united nations general assembly. quoting for
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a humanitarian trees between israelis and palestinians. israel began its most intense bombardment of gauze as since the war began costing all phone and internet services across the strip and amendment sponsored by canada and the us that would have added language condemning how mass was very to down. but the 193 member general assembly passed the main resolution offered by children in the our group is adopted it goals for an immediate trees, the release of all civilians and the uninhibited flow of humanitarian supplies in to gaza. the general assembly prevent and send the appropriate message, not only to the power steering young people that there is justice unfairness and international humanitarian law uphold by the general assembly. but also, it's send the message to everyone enough is enough. this war has to stop. the us was the only major will power the voted against it, along with 13 other countries,
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including israel, $45.00 nations abstained. after the vote, israel's ambassador accused the un old and his woods, insuring not preventing further atrocities. today is a day that will go down in, in inform me. we have all witnessed that the un no longer holds even one ounce of legitimacy or relevance the resolutions adopted in the general assembly and binding . meaning, israel could ignore it as it's done in the past. with few consequences, 3 weeks into the conflict, the u. n. has finally spoken with one voice. but even with overwhelming support, it's unlikely the resolution will end the bombardment have gone to victoria gates and be for inside story. the. well, let's discuss more on all of this by our panel of guess. and in ramallah,
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we have had on a schwab already a policy and political leda and full member of the palestinian liberation organization executive committee. she was also a member of the policy and delegation to the middle east. peace talks in the 19 nineties and how does bug ronnie cast, rails a full, the south african government minister, a leading member of the african national congress during the apartheid era. and, and it's all about, it's malea ludy who served as pockets stones ambassador to the united kingdom, the united states, and the united nations. we have a most distinguished panel. thank you very much for joining us on inside story boss of the low, deep valley. how can i ask you 1st about the general assembly because you served as pocket stones ambassador to the united nations that will be people here who say the general assembly doesn't have any power. it doesn't do. and the thing you during your time is the impasse. so that you actually one of the vice presidents of the general assembly. so tell me why the general assembly is important. and i think the general assembly is important because when there's a deadlock in the security council,
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as we saw when several resolutions didn't get through of the ritual or theme that stopping or the bloodshed, or at least getting a humanitarian phones, then the gender, somebody kicks in it's often guard the parliament of the word. every country has one vote and that's a body that really does reflect global opinions of the security council. dr. world is only made up of 15 members of the general assembly was a 192 members. of does demonstrate what the word is thinking, and i think what we saw in this resolution and the vote for the resolution was where the word was standing. it was standing on the right side of history. it was conveying that it wants an end to the black chair to the cottage, to the genocide that is going on. and it was it built to those members of the security council who used to be to the united states try many
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a to prevent any kind of a cease fire or any kind of a board into fighting. so i think ok, so there is a solution is non binding, but i think the force of public opinion and global opinions is extremely important . and the word has spoken and it has spoken decisively against is drawn. and it has spoken decisively in favor of peace. okay, i don't know, sorry if i could talk to you about the resolution itself. it took a lot of negotiation led by jordan to the our group. let me just read out what it cooled for an immediate durable and sustained humanitarian truce. but it all so cold of for she amount of terminate to come in and meet you continue with sufficient and hindered and interestingly it's specified what should go in water, food, medical supplies, fuel and electricity. this would be, would it not for the product senior people wonderful. if this was actually complied with a yeah, i wouldn't say it's not listening, but it wouldn't be beginning to undo the injustice from damage and violence that
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has been inflicted on the palestinians of gas and times of the ending is as done aside, been cj and prevention of on, on the climate on somebody, not in their life, strictly speaking. so yes, it should have taken place that it shouldn't be even under question on about. it's ready to answer except the chauffeur powers in the west. and given them sense that i do think decisions over life, and that's over 2000000 that a student comes. this is incredible. rodney, when we saw that votes and it's done with electronic voting and the un general assembly was really a snapshot of international opinion where each country stands, every single ambassador or represented rent, representative, representative, had to say, where they stood on the war in gaza. were you surprised by the way the boat went?
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no, you know the tool, because we see a month and that is what will be pinions about. and we see in the no mess response to this gross criminality. because honest is wrote mister board, the united states and others give it. so it was not surprised. i was very pleased to see that we had a to fit majority. can you imagine if we hadn't set that up, can be the, please the say this of these wrote and the supporters would be, this was a huge model plugs to those criminals and it showed the palestinian people that people have because they are not of those that the world stands by them. i believe . let me just actually read out the list of the 14 countries that voted against this. that was all straight croatia. check here. fiji, guatemala hungry, marshall islands, micronesia. narrow popping new guinea power. quite tongue go. and then of course
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the us and israel, what do you make of those list? the, the fact that the us didn't even managed to get some of it's very close to stylized like the u. k. i'm from just about with them. what i think it was very significant that countries like france, a permanent member of the security council broke racks with the united states, started a super and other european countries like spain, like quote, you go and, and others. so i think that just goes to show that the united states is increasingly isolated in the international community with the united kingdom. it's 9 a ally, it's stated in the vote. so i think this is a very strong message to washington. the message is very clear, the word wants to blush, it to stop at president biden by encouraging a is right. is really becoming complicit in what is going on. and i think that's
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how we would opinion is going. it's not just in the general assembly, you look at the streets, not just the out of the street. you look at the streets across the board. what are the largest demonstrations as taking place in london? there's been lots demonstrations in my country pocket stuff. so i think the message shouldn't be responded to, and i think the united states should shift goals now, and they decide of peace and justice. hold on, i'm going to read you the quote from these riley ambassador and he made this quote . in the general assembly, i'd like to know your response. we know there is no humanitarian crisis in accordance with international humanitarian law. he said that in the general assembly, despite what we'll can see or the others as being allowed to lie, he is it, see this ingenuous sometimes of trying to deceive the wife once again, when everybody can see that it plainly the how does it mess up?
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cuz the start, the policy is not bombing sending destruction. it's just incredible that they say we know. so they assume that everybody would fall in step sir. yes, i'm class and it's not the 1st time. listen a james, this is i'm ok with the i'm my isn't in particular, is that it has to this day and for the us. and it has always described it as i'm designing or whatever. but it has never implemented as thing the new under zillow. so not one and most of the repo repo is exercised by the u. s. let them in order to say, is there any kind of accountability or constraints? so let's, let's be many strang, this kind of good, not just the suspect or disdain, even inside of the to the international community as symptomatic as an acting outside the law feeling that it can act with one impunity that nobody was on the
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con. um, on the other side that it can always lie. and the lies to become a game in life on the, on them becomes a basis of policy as happened there likely with the us and on the manufacturer knew it was done and saw just that the palestinians. so i think this kind of this thing is expected, but at the same time what, what makes me very upset and on palestinians is that there's no that i don't know kinds of consequences that is not nice to be paid. what does the whole world as maria said this has been kind of thing and song for us. bunch, wait, wait, hold on, sit back and accept this. why can't it enforce? there's no and forced much in the head flexibility its decisions. and we saw that if that's the cost of a blockage all you and decisions that the security council in order to bring
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a mock piece. then the time assembly gains, it's united for peace resolution games, effective powers, but so far we haven't seen it. i think that so long as it is treated as a debating society and so long as it's not the capstone treated without took to account. then how can we hold this into account and how can we stop this mexico, this carnage rodney, can i move briefly away from the golf? so do you think this has implications for western influence? western diplomats have spent so much political capital over the last 18 months, trying to get support for ukraine trying to get the global south to come on board with ukraine. have expended a loss of that right now with what many will say is double standards. the co absolutely to proceed. they failed in relation to the cray. the african countries refused to main bravo,
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beaten into the sessions were g that the us and the you were forcing done of threats. and with the stars. this will be even more magnified because what the global saw clearly see is the complicity of the phone. the colonial power was with the u. s. a. he didn't pay readjust power that wants to model stuff and dominate the world. thing this shines through and it took a really affects the total abuse of people that the global self and not continue in the, in africa, even where the upside the ceasefire issues about the aspects we african states up into telling the us. so the you long legged rankles, they see that he proceed. they see the racism and the mouth,
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streets throughout the confident as throughout the global. so even in a place like india, you can see that the video was also outraged at this episode of slaughter that the us site and the use states those wisdom, the, was a party to they all criminals. and we must find the way 2 weeks. so in sure that, that, you know, we, we spent, i'm actually not going to go along with a guy and it's vital. now it's crucial, believe i want to bring you in on this and the whole idea of double standards and on the west. because you have a unique perspective, not only where you focused on some boxes of the united nations, you will also call costanza and pass it up to the united states. and you and bye, so i to school high commissioner to, to the united kingdom. so give us your perspective, i think it's going to be known that the west or the us led west has practiced
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double standards. they talk about human rights in the country that they are opposed to, but they don't really show much concern for human rights. i mean, in my neighborhood, my country's neighborhood, there is the, the issue of occupied crush me, which like that is dying, isn't occupied data g a and has also seen huge violations of human rights. but we've not heard any sound or any comment from wisdom countries about these violations. so i think what this will do is to bring into much shop and release the kind of double standards in the book to see that many wisdom countries i think would be unfair to club for wisdom. countries to gather some have stored a foot by this time, for example, i'm and i think it's taking a very courageous position. so i think one has to be live together. but i will see that what it does reinforce is the shift in global insurance up from the us led western block of countries to the rest. so i think increasingly,
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we will see in the much more multi for the setting, the fact that insurance at the global level is not just the monopoly of a handful of countries that have tried to actually to bottle the word of my go panelists browbeat others into funding in line what countries no longer want to fall in line because they want to exercise, they don't supplement, right? to say what the please act the way they please. and to act in the case of palestine on the right side of history on the side of justice and on the side of fitness. i think it's also us are bulky, too old, but when we saw of the debates in the general assembly before the vote, we actually with watching and i was sitting in the studio and now is there a watching it live? and so latania slaying a most remarkable split screen moments that was the oldest slope going on in gauze or in fact the us ambassador will speaking giving her speech. i don't how to 0. in
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another screen we could see really desperate images of explosions and gaza. colleagues, one sided resolutions, whether they are put forward in the security council, or the general assembly will not help to advance piece, not when they, nor the facts on the ground. so there we have the us ambassador, speaking in the general assembly, and at the very same moment those pictures on on was that an active is really defiance. is that how some, in the general assembly we'll see it. i wonder even what the us ambassador made of that going on while she was speaking, it will look, i think it's not the 1st time. is that the is that is the sort of the, this number, the, they, the us are some, it's knows that the us on it one, somebody us, it's for the blank support, unlimited funds more lessons and so on. even including the fact that they want us
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to find that it's worth on that to be have. so i don't know whether it's going, it's actually done to nod is the on site special or not. but i think it exposes, instruct in the poker see that i would like to do a go back to him for him to these by monday is that it's not. although as students, it's not, it's mainly the west stuff. and it was involved in for long have systems i think in early in the south and buttoned out part of the one that is now behaving with that evidence on the colonial mentality. that white my side and the fact that the victim is invisible and that they have to be the other nights and they can and drugs and they can take positions pertaining to that i just of that on victims. so this is an ongoing buttons, frankly speaking, that step is even more invested. the creation of the state them isn't on a stick. me, i'm not. and 1947 and 48 and then continued with
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a new one. jack is that it can do no wrong is known of course as a colonial outpost. and that has continued is that it must never be had the account . it must be given preferential treatment. what palestinians out of some human species that we can take and we can be invisible, we get them and they, and they kind of you and have to measure us. and that's the process. the whole process of the education on ethnic cleansing, of done this time is something that the west has to embrace to, to speak is to become a western and enterprise. and then that sense, i think we, i'm not seeing the end of colonialism on the country. and these are not to them, that's this just as any active system. oh, white supremacy of colonialism, of a sense of entitlement as the cd ought to be. and this has to be an actual written as an, as a, as being in a way. that is certainly within danger why one page and certainly wouldn't endanger
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all of these systems that weren't created to edwards based order and a global do not law and so on. because it, it stays outside of it. and if you have a international remind me that in law and the dimensions on all sorts of conventions are human rights and so on that much they must have a way of making them effective. otherwise, we will continue to be extra week, a semester of the song of the noise. i'm the industrial countries of the white supremacist and continuing to victimize the global sauce, whether they cannot mentally, or politically armada even getting away with it because they have the instruments of power, mentally, instruments of accountability and control. i'm curves running. let me bring out what actually seems to have happened on the ground and gaza when we sold those explosions as dramatically explosions that took place at the same time as
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ambassadors with meeting in new york. in addition to the water being caught, the electricity being caught up low fuel coming in very limited to aid coming in. now, it seems because there is going black to the world of the cell phone services, internet services have been cut. what do you make of this latest blow by israel to the people of gaza as well that sleep part of the most a plan? they went to cut god out of the world in time they, they went to black it out. if i could just make a comment about the color incidents last night when the, the, this debate was taking place at the rate. i think that was absolutely deliberate. it's is a rope and it's invested at the un splitting into the face of the world, showing that we bought the boss those that we don't care the thing about the rest of the world and we are going to destroy palestine. we deal with garza and we will
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come across the tale, the surviving peddler stadiums going to be in the desolate, etc. so this is what the game is type to leave. but i believe that the well the voice together with the sub but the resistance of the palestinian people will prevent that happen then that's vital. that's the message we must will send to the world for the last night that she lives in big about. molly, i'm certainly with the some of the consequences of the internet and the phones being cut off means that people cannot ring for ambulances. it means that un agencies, agent says comp, speak to that stuff, they can't do that work joyless kindle reports and get the news out as a full my boss of the, to the un. do you believe these are additional war crimes bias ro?
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oh there's no doubt about it, i think is right. has been committing more crimes for over 50 years. if dark more. but what it is doing? no. i think it has completely defied international opinion. it has defied orleans norms of humanity. and what is going on is the kind of black shit that i think in modern history we've not really with. ringback this before plus, i think we also have must look at the consequences for those countries that have been back in missouri that have been going on and on. not getting about the beep or dying, and the civilians who are dying in the housing in garza. but they've been going on and on about is raised, right to defend itself, defend itself. this is defense where you're taking the lives of innocent people. i think they will be consequences for these countries that border, the confronting of crisis, the credibility of humanity. and actually,
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i think they don't people, uh, certainly, if you look at some of the demonstrations which are going on in cities in the united states itself, you'll see the public opinion there also is watching with harder and wish about how their own government is encouraging a country that is guiding note, it's like tensing by by i mean, millions of people are being affected by this not and can i bring you in on, on that point. but molly has made about protest around the world because of that we've seen very, very large protests taking place all over the world. in fact, we saw one in grand central station very near the un, which was jewish people come painting to stop the war. do you think this protests are going to have an effect? maybe even more of an effect? the vote in the un general assembly suddenly and yes, i am such as it is. i will have an exact because they jewish voice for piece of the
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as not. now up to the organizations that have been active for some time, including others, jewish organizations that we have worked with for years at the moment before we used to come for a demonstration on all the process and infinities that could be for now we'll have thousands, they went into the cafeteria into congress that occupied congress. they went into that center station and the thousands and they made the committee the spec to columbia gave the nice thing is an essential in all my support that you are not. i know that the jewish people of conscience are standing with you. this is very important because isn't it? it wants to claim that it stands for orange is speak something about her own chosen song, about old jews, our designers, photos you assume. and it's a gen the side of the policies, but that's from to and they stood up and they stood on the signs of justice. now that impact was not only be sent in is right,
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but it is being sent clearly in the u. s. i mean, look at the public opinion polls the ratings of mind and have come down and obviously as a result of his blind support to base rent. and his embrace all of these work times that his entering through our partnership with these more kind of and i think ultimately the international criminal court should look at these things. not just is there any profit right? does about that. the apartments on support is on their neighbors. and so let me, let me bring in, let me bring it in really quickly running. um we don't have much time left, but people power. how important do you think you can be this point as well? just started to recall what happened in the struggle against about that so that for cash rather similar to so that's it. can government wanted to know all the resolutions, the united nations and the pro destroying the world. they built up to an incredible part of the people's power and getting sub africa itself. and the one kind
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of the estimate, the power of international southern devotees, the power in the streets, the power to pressure arise. governance last, the us luck from you guys. we had the same opponents enough to struggle against above date and even the end they were forced to buckle. so this is a very important went from a peaceful way to a highly, to minute to way put, and we'll do everything possible to mobilize the forces that all growing and growing. and we will succeed in the and how that started. well, the, for sure. thank you very much ronnie, st. q, to all our panel today. how to in a while, are you running across the rails? i'm only a lady if you joined us late, you can watch the whole program again or any of our other programs by visiting our website out. is there a don't com? do you have any views on our discussion? we'd like to hear from you. you can go to our facebook page,
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that's facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story for on x, that's twitter to you and me search for at a inside story from all the team, please stay safe. i'll catch you very soon bye for now. the this is most is like the palestinians and his radio occupied territories every day . as the year of the tree security checks the day, the old deal, especially for young palestinian men you ask me what my house can you say then not going out unless they have to to avoid arrest check points. and harassment from angry is really odd. non side tells us he feels the situation has lessened to palestinians. on sunday, he was chased by launch group. this is randy settlers, one on his way to what i think his rating supermarket. the security guard came over
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shouting by pointing a gun at my face. and forced me to the ground. it was discrimination only because on palestinian with formright groups quoting on his right of these 2 a tiny palestinians, they come across regardless of age palestinians a walrus that they'll be collectively punished more than they already have been. the more than a 1000 palestinians in garza has lost their lives. one child is killed by israel, every 10 minutes the for them. so robin, who watching all just their life. but headquarters here in the hall also coming up desperation in garza thousands of hungry palace.
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