tv Inside Story Al Jazeera October 29, 2023 8:30pm-9:01pm AST
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a tile is what i can see over the balcony. yeah. are you good. so was the palestinian residence, about what time to get in garza with detailed coverage around 60000 people have arrived here. they were afraid and many here are blaming bench. i mean nothing. yeah. from around the well joe biden was meant to meet with 3 out of leaders in jordan, but via essentially cancel. i went to the us president was not prepared to call for the ceasefire. the israel siege and destruction of gauze is a few minutes harry, in catastrophe for its 2 points, framed and faithful voters of the united nations woods as it moves that cutting off all the food fuel and electricity is a war crime. so what can stop such collective punishments? this is inside story. the
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hello and welcome to the program on toma cried: it's been like into a medieval siege. a total blockade of one of the most densely populated areas in the world. while the bombing in time neighborhoods to revel as ro has also countertops supplies, no fuel means nor powerful generations threatening the lives of the young, old and critically you who have managed to make it to hospital on the is rarely bombardments, dissemination, ponds not working effectively means drinking water is running out and both of mines of damaged food is also running out. and many a suffering hung up is where i was accused by the united nations and human rights officials of carrying out a war crime through which siege. israel continues regardless, supported by the united states and many european union nations. so will consult this collective punishment of 2300000 people will be asking this and more about us and just a few moments. but 1st time i flew describes the impact of as well,
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sage from inside, gaza. the people are now hungry for as the honor work commissioner has stated, the residents of the gaza strip are expected to face an otter disaster. and in the coming days caught in a trap in a war zone, the residence of this a small territory are expected to see some unimaginable suffering as the human at 3 institutions are worse than inc and age housing, the 80 group is stated that water supply sanitation in hygiene facilities have really been disruptive services, do more than 700 people evacuating it from the northern part garza city to the southern part of the gaza strip. which only me now august in con eunice and guns as month. so sherman of residents have cancer in ramallah is bush or kelly the policy late in the occupied
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palestinian territory. and as ro for aux fan and basically him is were home jaffar, a communications and advocacy coordinator for the occupied palestinian territory for action. i thank you very much for joining us here on inside story most. so if i can begin with you, you were obviously living. this humanitarian crisis died and die out there in gaza . we've heard from the un secretary general who's just reiterated that the situation is getting worse and worse each and every hour. can you just explain exactly where you are right now and, and what the situation is like and gather as it stands. oh, thank you. probably the program was here a guests, but i'm now located in the also hospital inside notice in the south of the gal district. um, do you anticipate the general tab? i mean, i'm wondering how we can get better. right now we have over 8000 builds 20000 in just board. those are still the most. um,
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until now the 50 to 60 trucks have come in since the last 23 days. normally we expect onto the trucks. are they doing one more time? temperature last tax on the residential guys uh, lights pulse for us. all my family must have been bumped down jackson's haven't broke total bu, hospital hundreds killed in them. why? the police it together was hundreds of refugees. and that's why it has to have not only not fully chopped off the tops and then it could just be tops in addition to not allowing any fluids coming in. but they've also provides this top communications in the inside and outside world, the history which it is getting worse and also time. and rom, of want to talk a little bit about, uh, the looting that we have seen recently for the very 1st time since the war broke out. we're seeing people so disparate that they have been forced to go to and run
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depots and, and fin for themselves, find the food, take it home to feed the families. how big of a concern is it that, that this is now happening and things and the so if you see them at a very difficult situation and i've been to get them to fix the tuition and the saw an garza and it's under the it, it book it and seeds denying the entry of basic for the items and the fuel and the medical supplies. and the, there is no waiting for the city and the people do not have any sense of place to go with the goal and the, even the has to be done that the under continuous district of phone bank and the evacuation is the people to know where to go and that is here, but it didn't get that through fee. it does on best send the level of starting to
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think civilians and it does it and you want to get him conducted. defeat is also come up to the cried the whole situation and gather is so in this situation, but i'm more he wants the pressure on the org and the hope it isn't. so he went to a good addition, come up at ward or continue to work onto this situation and where there is no extra city. what is there is no, you know, it's in thing. does i am it's, i don't the 87 of the human he said he had a distracted that's instead together for 2 pointed to the 1000000 people, this is not sufficient. this is not fed and that there is no safe access score. he went to the city and the, to the doors to into i'm to allow people to is to duty to this is basically it's, i mean the, what that is. but what it and them is that it has to be does come up the,
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the 3 to is the old, the entered and was the one of the people and they received the from the continue was pumping it up thought a good says most concepts and should have been woman and so i kind of gets all the work to cut the situation that people or the people didn't get the best to to. and so there is an engine school and an in egypt called street and you get seats via and it needs yet to pause for this for this to you. it's a violence against people against the btn against to the in does a me well i'm, you know, the only one of not finding the words to describe what is happening in dallas or at this point in time. butcher, the you in wounds that civil order was dissolving inside garza because of the pressure. that's the 2300000 people there around. is that what we're seeing here
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now? people are having to, i mean, you know, you have to understand people, garza before the 7th of october, is a place where there's no homeless people despite the humanitarian crisis and living under seats for 16 years. there's no crime in gaza is that's not existence. so for people to be looting on our well and people that are dependent on aid and have always been an i miss, not anything new for guys. and they've been living on the rank of humanitarian catastrophe. and the way that we've seen it in the last few weeks for years because of the illegal is really blockade imposed on gods by cutting off the from many basic supplies for people to be looting. lower and rice. i mean that's, that's the situation must be very desperate and must be, you know, p n, i know from my, from myself and we've, we've heard our colleague that and because they're saying that on his own family
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he's, he's been impacted by the environments i have my own family as well and gaza. they were sharing to tons of to and i so as a mom myself, i would probably also, uh get any my hands on any type of flower or food to be able to, to feed my children. it's a very natural, i think, and human thing to do. there's been also very conflicted reports about this new thing and why that happened. i had direct witness testimonies about this thing that actually was been parted right after people had due to that and had been asked to be evacuated. so there are different reports on that. i know that it's not clear because we're unable to contact anybody because connection lines have been completely disrupted. so we're not even able to speak to our colleagues or speak to, to our family, to really understand what is going on as the minutes go by. it's, it's terrifying. it certainly, it certainly isn't that lack of communication between officials but also between
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family members and friends living and does a month. so it must also be extremely difficult at this time. we've heard over the last couple of days that this is the 1st time that people inside cancer, a really going hungry that stuff vision is going to become a bigger and bigger issue. is that how it feels, the now mental as you just mentioned, even during the blockade before this war has, is a very safe place. i mean that in the do you hear any kind of the, the activity happening, even the small scan, multi sort of talk, the people have to go to the us, but it's easier storage in the own little to smaller and vice less need their own children and their own expenses comedies shows you how much of a massive crisis in terms of the food and nutrition. we are beach in the sense i am
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getting from the people living across of my across of what i am in the for the difference was around 20000 refugees. is that the, that ations that'd be able to get things are getting smaller. uh, the deepens that needs to be said are guessing larger numbers. and just even if people have a little bit of cash on the side, they can find and buy the food they need. so the property of a fun to tease, there is a property on those quantities. however, even with all these challenges, the people near the are trying to tease high motor on the i try to see if the factors fit trusts the practices patients and has each of it out as much as they can. what do we need to have for potential? imagine for me to, to, to open the board them on the particularly part of both sides as all kinds of h to come in as soon as possible. because by today, we should have had the challenge of 23 days, find support 100 trucks,
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at least 9000 containers of age, which should have replenished, whatever that if you just ate and drank over the last 23 days. remarkable, the solar light is gone. uh, over the last 3 weeks. right. um, do you think that this humanitarian crisis is unfolding inside god? so do you think that's a deliberate tactic of his royal or simply a consequence of war? and so i think that the if but the humidity and put a doors is not the open and it's dark and need yet the seats. my head is not the beauty i've been to, the humanitarian situation of the human said him get this to feel wouldn't be accepted. i do think the up the coming days and the and we will lead north many people we, many lives would be lost and even the patient people who got who couldn't 3 day receive them with the kids they want. i think, guess there is an, it's
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a good the international community to the, or do you go to all the people to the students while you are to the practice of presser on the, to adhere to the international community. and also in this regard, i want to emphasize that a one point that the means going that the people in get the estimate your to got to get all the time, keep a high and what is a high adherence to a social cohesion and the respect to the law is some familiar, it costs more than 15 members of this. i'm the difference in one house and they share everything. so and the, the main problem, the main things that we want to focus on now is 3 by us to open human, to tell you, go to dodge, to allow it, he went to teddy on it to in god's us. and also especially the new way which is need the tools and for that it has to be done which is needed to it's under that, it does, it needs to a good or to produce degree. and what does what to produce?
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well, i can, for the people back at us, come up to work because it's got to print, you want to print, which is a big component for both and get the information you need. so is that the most. ready reality that we focus on it, i am going to say a young, i'm an immediate seats, but i think, yeah. and you know, the only one. so i've been calling for that and the schools have been growing louder and louder as the days go on. but still, we of you to see anything along those lines. bush, are you with a aux fan? and i have called the stuff vision that is happening in dallas and now is being used as a width and of more. is this a war crime mount? indeed, to a war crime we and i think the international community is being very clear about israel's duties and obligations under international law. israel, a book and legally blockades is guys all has been for the last 16 years. we've been under military occupation here in the west bank for 57 years, and it has obligations under international law to protect civilian population and
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not means provide them with basic needs, including water, fuel electricity, and food, and medical supplies. when these essential food items like flour and oil and sugar are prevented from entering the gaza strip because supporters have been closed or, and, or bombed. um, you know, the, the, you know, it's, it's, it's clear that starvation as a method of warfare has been use and it's typically prohibited by international humanitarian law. and i, the occupying force is real, have an obligation to ensure the needs and protection of gods as population. and that is not currently the case in not to mention the collective punishment as well . and so i want to talk a little bit about fuel because that is also one of the biggest problems that is facing everyone in counsellor at the moment. i mean is ro still refuses to let any in to the strip? can you just explain how that affects almost every part of life bit yes.
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the problem right now is that is an in house of the me next because it is also from it. i'll just put it in 23 this. so people rely on the other ways, then the electricity or for the mean function like however there are some and then units within my cost becomes like clinics, like um, the rescue sensors, fraud departments, the ambulances accepted off. would you like very have any problem and efficiency and perhaps things charges dropped electrical giovanni to offset by fuel to without fuel costs, with those with stopped working heathen wednesday, friday. as a result of the gulf views up,
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there will be no more than the connection there. will be no more ways to communicate with each other within the outside world. without viewing as the limited amount of power is in the ration from solar send findings. and the other methods is like very, very, very small. and which is not enough to give enough power for the people here fuel he is not equal to life is more important than to have been was him and the lady. so that's an entity like come us when the controlling the skewing, when i urge them to ensure that it is being directed properly as uh, it's an organization such as, but i could, i sense that's across the overall, etc. in order for them to direct it. where they believe is the lights, please. uh, the fuel use to answer as soon as possible. or we are committing 2 points leading
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to the other causes whence to day. a realm. uh, i uh, action i obviously works extensively right throughout. uh, gaza. i mean, i'd agencies, they are now having to make x truly difficult, cools about the limited amount of fuel that they have and with the priorities live with or it should go to ambulances to, to, to get the injured back to hospital with the keep. thank you. bases or generalizes running with it to send it to bakery. so food can be made to feed people. how difficult is that to someone that works for an agency just having to make those types of calls? i've got to make sure that if you want, it's important for able to do it. think it's a life they think it's similar to little thought and food and we don't know when we come up the good you with what the other week, almost to clear what got it for human consumption. we don't to, when we come up towards the lenses, we come up to also, if you will,
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is needed. if been, if you will, is not available. i think what would be in be this. and also we do not as much as we can with limited step as it is on the ground to, to, to try to help the people that this but the, on the, the also the lack of 50, the continue with thumping on this to be a shortage of with you with it all one word it can be did a our movement is indeed it is also. so if you will, is, is, is this what do you need it as it may need it to enter now get the no yes, it's not just about getting through the roof of crossing. now. is it to, for sure. can you just help explain to people that might not fully understand that, that how israel controls paola and move to access into gaza that doesn't necessarily have to come in on trucks? does it or no, i mean it doesn't. and also, i mean,
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it's important to say you asked the very important question, like how do we make that call? well, actually we wouldn't have to make that call as parties were abiding by their duties and obligations under international law. both parties, by the way, um, uh, uh, on the, on the, on the blockade gonzalez'. and what it does is it has to us for the last 16 years of a block, it was deemed illegal by the international court of justice. a few years ago in an advisor sent in israel, of course control will be as really borders. there's only one percent of guidance before the 7th of october that could come in and out of gaza and humanitarian aid and workers of course. but you know, also on top of this located there were success solutions in the last 10 years. and every time that has been an escalating goes other borders, look for force forcefully closed. so clearly there is that type of control um, from israel. it claims to not have control over the border,
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but that's incorrect because it gets to close and open the border whenever it chooses to. and it also bombarded dropped off. i mean, in the you, the 1st few days of, of, of this, of this current escalation, the hospital in terms of water and electricity actually gone to the bies. most of its water, at least half of it applies from it, is really company that provides the water thread the same thinking of buying electricity from guys really, grids and, and, you know, a compensates with solar, with solar panels and fuel from the, for the power plant so they are dependent on these resources by israel and the fact that these can be shut off. so each time isn't, i mean, is it, you know, if it is a serious violation of until out and national, i may well, amount to more crime. yes indeed. months so i'm not too sure if you've been able to see uh from within garza over the last week or so. rallies uh shows of
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solidarity with palestinians had been growing larger and larger. right around the world. there were more than a 1000000 people, a 2000 stumble, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people in london, turned out to, to walk along the streets, the protesting what is happening inside garza? how important is it? i mean, i know it doesn't actually change the situation, but how important is it to people to put pressure, especially on the wisdom governments that have started with israel here. how important is it from someone sitting inside garza to see that and i guess for people to keep that up. um, honestly uh whenever the people here have access to social media and vcs, everyone's patients all around the world times to support the cause of the see need people hear them. drugs are trying to put pressure on the government,
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has seized the pressure on lcm, that their spirits dismissal on behalf of the 2300000 people living in laws. i want to take each and every one of you, or most of these demonstrations fluoride semester. the government official will put scratch out in different ways in piece called buttons. but try to apply the basic human rights that's all in put into in the u. n. all this has been gives me the stuff that has been going to escalate to him over the last 23 days. mm hm. we begin this program by asking one question. one that is very difficult to answer because no one seemingly has been able to come up with one. what do you think is actually going to stop this collective punishment? what is happening with the sage and gaza? what, what is the disconnect of? but it's, but it's meant to mean yes,
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i think there wouldn't be this would be a, through the political wouldn't move the political leader in the ward and the you to press start on it to the, from the international community from the you and the buses. and from the political and lead us, as mentioned on to, from the people of the war to continue are you, they think the voices and demonstrating guess as to protest against this escalation against thought, getting to be yes to is to, to force. is it a 2 attempts to international, the national? no, it should be a collective ward of the action in from all governments. i don't. the ward is to in order to get them to come together in to the, to a 6 via media to play and for the people who are feeding kids for read it for more than $23.00 days. a bush read. do you have any heart at this point in time?
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that at the very least, we're going to see a humanitarian ceasefire put in place before you know more and more people die and goes a, you know, um, organizations like august time have been raising the alarm bells for years on the situation of gauze on what we've been calling for is not only and, and to the siege. and of course an immediate cease fire that goes without saying, but an end to the siege and for the international community to deal with the root causes of this issue. for the walk towards a, a real time bound time with t accountability mechanisms for each point of that time. so uh for a tour as you know, the justice and this in towards this injustice to resolve this injustice and to resolve this violence. and we have been calling that for 3 years now. and,
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and that is also my call. and i, i urge also people to support the call that came out a couple weeks ago by more than 600 organizations globally, including big international organizations of one is which one is awesome. calling for an immediate cease fire, but also an entire ceasefire. proposal is part of the open call and its gardner. now more than half a 1000000 signatures and about a week, we urge people to continue making that call for an immediate cease fire. as you said, we have seen it globally. the street has spoken. now leaders need to to represent that constituents. they were, they represent constituents, we represent these people and they have to address it. it's, it's their responsibility as elected leaders. so you know, we, enough of the persistent failure of the international community. it is now time and now there's a window to take real action. mm hm. and so we have about one minute left and the
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program. i just want to ask you briefly how i agree. are people there about the lack of action from the international community? the people here, chimney all the motions and so action was like a, b hi everyone is trying to has to reduce the impact of what is happening and you know, and i've been in the process of buying them in whatever way they can put and leave the pressure of the people here. yes, people are angry, however they believe that's all they can do at this point. this device has been out all of them in the best online. thank you so much a month. so we, we really appreciate it and really hard for your annual family. safety to inside gone, so thank you. all 3 of you for joining us on al jazeera, miss. sherman bushera kelly, the entry home. jeffery, thank you so much. one. take you too for watching, you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, which is here a dot com. and so through the discussion goes about facebook page. that's facebook
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