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will send you and we'll leave the houses and move to the south. of the gulf has an area that come to be really enough for hosting this specific number of displaced people are evacuating to a place for us to do this. there isn't any safe place to go. the people in hospitals need electricity. they need welfare for their life. is rail, sage, and destruction of gauze is a few minutes harry and catastrophe, for it's $2300000.00 people. those of the united nations woods as it moves that cutting off most of the food fuel and electricity is a war crime. so what can stop such collective punishments? this is inside story. the
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hello and welcome to the program on toma cried: it's been like into a medieval siege. a total blockade of one of the most densely populated areas in the world. while the bombing in time neighborhoods to revel as ro has also countertops supplies. no fuel means nor power for generations threatening the lives of the young, old and critically you who have managed to make it to hospital on the is rarely bombardments, dissemination, ponds not working effectively means drinking water is running out. and both the minds of damaged food is also running out. and many a suffering hung up is where i was accused by the united nations and human rights officials of carrying out a war crime through which sage. israel continues regardless, supported by the united states, and many european union nations. so will consult this collective punishment of 2300000 people will be asking this and more about this and just
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a few moments. but 1st, honey mcclure describes the impact of as well sage from inside gaza. the people are now hungry for as the owner of the commissioner houses stated, the residents of the gaza strip are expected to face an otter disaster. and in the coming days, caught in a trap in a war zone and the residence of this a small territory are expected to face and unimaginable suffering as the human at 3 and situations are worse than in an age. having the 80 groups stated that water supply, sanitation and highest gene facilities have really been disrupted services to more than 700 people evacuating or from the northern part garza city to the southern part of the gaza strip. the would you any me now? i'll guess in con eunice in garza as month so sherman of residents have cancer in ramallah as bush or kelly,
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the policy lead and the occupied pellets and the entire tree and his ro for aux fan and. and basically him is for home jeffery communications and advocacy. cooled nice a fully occupied palestinian territory for action. i think you will very much for joining us here on inside story most. so if i can begin with you, you are obviously living this humanitarian crisis. diane die out there in gaza. we've heard from the un secretary general who's just reiterated that the situation is getting worse and worse each and every hour. can you just explain exactly where you are right now and, and what the situation is like in dallas or is it stands? i don't think you're probably in the program unless you're a guests. um i am now located in the also hospital inside notice in the south of the gaza strip. um, do you anticipate the general tab? i mean, i'm wondering how we can get better. right now we have over 8000 builds. 20000 in
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just borders are still the most. um, until now the 50 the 60 trucks have come in since the last 23 days. normally we expect onto the trucks. are they doing one more time? temperature last tax on that hasn't been sort. garza lights pulse for us. all my family lofts have been bomb down. junctions have been broke. total bu, hospital, hundreds killed in them was being pleated together. was hundreds of refugees. that's why it has to have not only not fully chopped off the tops and then it sits the tops in addition to not allowing any fluids coming in. but they've also try to stop communication in the inside and outside world, the history which it is getting worse and also kind of want to talk a little bit about uh, the looting that we have seen recently for the very 1st time since the war broke out we've seen people so disparate that they have been forced to go to on re
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depots and, and seen for themselves, find the food, take it home to feed their families. how big of a concern is it that this is now happening? them things and the so if this is them a very difficult situation and i've been to get them to fix the tuition and the saw, and garza and it's under the it, it book it on seeds denying the entry of basic for the items and the fuel and the medical supplies and the, there is no in the city and the people do not have any sense of place to go with the goal of the, even the hosting. because the under continuous district of phone bank and the evacuation is a people to know where to go. and they did this here, but it didn't get dr. fee. it is on best send the liberal of starting to think
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civilians and it does it and you want to get him to the feet is also you come up with the cried. the whole situation in gather is so in this situation, but i'm more you want a pressure on the org and the hope it isn't. so he went to a good addition that come up at ward or continue to work onto this situation and where there is no need to see what is there is no and no, it's in thing does i am it's, i don't the 87 of the human he said he had it in the truck that's in the gaza floor to pointed to the menu and people that this is not sufficient. this is not the bed . and there is no safe access for humanitarian, the cut of doors to into and to allow people to is to duty to this is basically it's, i mean the what that is but,
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and wanted and them is that it has to be done. can look the, the 3 points on the internet and with that one of the people and they receive it from the continuous pumping kids. i thought a good sits most concepts and should have been woman. and so i cannot get all the words to describe the situation that people or the people didn't get the best to to. and so there is an engine school and an in egypt called street and you get seats, why i? and it needs yet to pause for this is for this to your, the violence against people i can see being against, to the, in the me. well, i'm, you know, the only one uh, not finding the words to describe what is happening in dallas or at this point in time. butcher the you in wounds that civil order was dissolving inside gaza because of the pressure. that's the 2 point. 3000000 people there around,
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is that what we're seeing here now people are having to, i mean, you know, you have to understand people, garza before the 7th of october, is a place where there's no homeless people despite a humanitarian crisis and living under seats for 16 years there's no crime in gaza is that's not existence. so for people to be looting on our well and people that are dependent on aid and have always been dependent, i missed not anything new for guys. and they've been living on the rank of humanitarian catastrophe. and the way that we've seen it in the last few weeks for years because of the illegal is really blockade imposed on guys by cutting off the, from many basic supplies for people to be looting. lower and rice. i mean, but the type of situation must be very desperate and must be, you know, p n. i know from my, from myself and we've, we've heard our colleague that and because they're saying that on his own family,
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he's a, he's been impacted by the environment. i have my own family as well and gaza. they were sharing to tons of to and i so as a mom myself, i would probably also uh get any my hands on any type of flower or food to be able to, to feed my children. it's a very natural i think, and human thing to do. uh theres been also very conflicted reports about this new thing. and why that happened? um i had direct witness testimonies about this thing that actually was been parted right after people had who did it and had been asked to be evacuated. so there are a different reports on that. i know that it's not clear because we're unable to contact anybody because connection lines has been completely disrupted. so we're not even able to speak to our colleagues or speak to, to our family, to really understand what is going on as the minutes go by. it's, it's terrifying. it certainly, it certainly isn't that lack of communication between officials but also between
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family members and friends living and does a months who must also be extremely difficult at this time with who to over the last couple of days that uh, this is the 1st time that people inside cancer, a really going hungry that stuff vision is going to become a bigger and bigger issue. is that how it feels then now mental, as you just mentioned, even during the blockade before this war was a very safe place. i mean very it in the do here or any kind of the activity happening even this most in multi sort of talk, the people have to going through this procedure, sportage in the own little to smaller on the ice. let's need their own children and their own expenses. comedies shows you how much of a massive crisis in terms of the food and nutrition. we are reaching the sense i am
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getting from the people living across of my across of what i am in the for the difference was i don't 20000 refugees. is that the that ations that'd be able to get things are getting smaller. uh, the deepens that needs to be said of guessing large numbers. and just even if people have a little bit of cash on the side, they can find and buy the food the. so the one of these, there is a property on those quantities. however, even with all these challenges, the piece and here the are trying to keep high model. yeah. try to see if the factors fits hospices practices, patients and has each of it out as much as they can. what do we need the has what the data imagine for me to, to, to open the board, them on the quickly for both sides and all kinds of h to come in as soon as possible. because by today, we should have had the challenge of 23 days, find support 100 of trucks,
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at least 9000 containers of age, which should have replenished, whatever that if you'd use age and bank over the last 23 days. remarkable, that of solar light is gone uh over the last 3 weeks. right. hm. do you think that this you meant to, terry and crisis that's unfolding inside god? so do you think that's a deliberate tactic of his royal or simply a consequence of war? i am so i think that the if but the humanity and put a doors is not the open and it's dark and need yet the seats. my head is not the beauty i've been to, the humanitarian situation of the human said him get the stuff it wouldn't be accepted. i do think the up the coming days and the and we will lead north many people we, many lives would be lost and even the patient people who got who couldn't 3 day receive them with the kids they want. i think guess there is an, it's
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a good the international community to the work done to all the people to the streets while you are to the practice of press the, to adhere to the international community. and also in this regard, i want to emphasize that a one point that the means going that the people in does it as your gusts to get all the time. keep a high, more of a high adherence to a social cohesion and the respect to the law is some familiar. it costs more than 15 members of the defense in one house and they shed every think. so, and the, the main problem, the main things that we want to focus on now is 3 way us to open human to tell you, go to dodge, to allow it, he went to teddy on it to in god's us. and also especially the new way which is need the tools and for that it has to be done which is needed to it's underneath electricity to a good or to produce degree and what that what to produce. well,
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i think for the people beckett has come up to work because it's got to print, you want to print, which is a big component for both. and guess what i'm going to need so is that the most. ready reality that we focus on it, i am going to say a young, i'm an immediate seats, but i think, yeah. and you know, the only one. so i've been calling for that and the schools have been growing louder and louder as the days go on. but still, we of you to see anything along those lines. bush, are you with a aux fan? and i have called the stuff vision that is happening in dallas and now is being used as a width and of more. is this a war crime mount? indeed, to a war crime we and i think the international community is being very clear about israel's duties and obligations under international law. israel, a book and legally blockades is guys all has been for the last 16 years. we've been under military occupation here in the west bank for 57 years, and it has obligations under international law to protect civilian population and
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not means provide them with basic needs, including water, fuel electricity, and food, and medical supplies. when these essential food items like flour and oil and sugar are prevented from entering the gaza strip because supporters have been closed or, and, or bombed. um, you know, the, the, you know, it's, it's, it's clear that starvation as a method of warfare has been use and it's typically prohibited by international humanitarian law and docusign forth. israel has an obligation to ensure the needs and protection of gods as population. and that is not currently the case in not to mention the collective punishment as well. and so i want to talk a little bit about fuel because that is also one of the biggest problems that is facing everyone in counsellor at the moment. i mean, is ro still refuses to lead any in to the strip? can you just explain how that affects almost every part of life bit yes.
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the problem right now is that is an in house of the meat and the, because it is also from it, i'll just split since 23 this. so people rely on the other ways, then the electricity or for the mean function like however, that awesome. and then units within as though my costs becomes, like clinics, like um, the rescue sensors, fraud departments, the ambulances accept that off. would you like very have any problem and efficiency and perhaps things charges dropped electrical germany to offset by fuel to without fuel costs. but those will stop working. heathen wins died, spider as well as of the gulf views up. there will be no more than the connection.
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there will be no more ways to communicate with each other within the outside world . without viewing at there's a limited amount of power generation from solar send findings. and the other methods is like very, very, very small. and which is not enough to give enough power for the people here fuel he is not equal to life is more important than to have been was here and there . yeah, i'm ready. so that's an entity like come us when the controlling disputes when i urge them to ensure that it is being directed properly as uh, it's an organization such as, but i could, i sense that's across the overall, etc. in order for them to direct it where they believe is the lights please uh, the fuel use to answer as soon as possible. or we are committing to posley many
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other husbands who the mm hm. uh, i uh, action, idaho basically works extensively right throughout uh, gaza. i mean, i'd agencies, they are now having to make x truly difficult, cools about the limited amount of fuel that they have. and with the priorities live with there, it should go to ambulances to, to, to get the injured back to hospital with it. it keep thank you by has or generalizes running with it to send it to bakery. so food can be made to feed people. how difficult is that for someone that works for an agency just having to make those types of calls? i've got to make sure that if you want, it's important for everything. it's think it's a life. they think it's similar to little thought and food, and we don't know when we come up the good you with what we've done. most likely looked at it for human consumption. we don't to, when we come up towards the lenses, we come up to also, if you will,
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is needed. if been, if you wouldn't, is not available. i think what would be in be this. and also we do not as much as we can with limited step as it is on the ground to, to, to try to help the people that this but to on the, that also the lack of 50 the continue with 10 being on the c, b, a shortage of with you with it all one word. indeed it a our movement is indeed it is also. so if you will, is, is this what do you need to test it? it depends. who may need it to, to know, get the know it is yes, it's not just about getting through the roof of crossing. now. is it to push or can you just help explain to people that might not fully understand that how israel controls up how and move to access into gaza. that doesn't necessarily have to come in on trucks? does that or no, i mean it doesn't. and also, i mean,
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it's important to say you asked the very important question, like how do we make that call? well, actually we wouldn't have to make that call as parties. we're abiding by their duties and obligations under international law. both parties, by the way, um, uh, uh, on the, on the, on the blockade on guys uh and, and, and what god has to us for the last 16 years of a block. it was deemed illegal by the international court of justice a few years ago. and then an advisor sent in israel, of course, control will be as really borders. there's only one percent of the guidance before the 7th of october that could come in and out of gaza and humanitarian aid and workers of course. but you know, also on top of this blockade, there were success solutions in the last 10 years. and every time that has been an escalating goes other borders, look for 4th forcefully closed. so clearly there is that type of control um, from israel. it claims to not have control over the border,
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but that's incorrect because it gets to close and open the board whenever it chooses to. and it also bombarded blah, blah, i mean in the you the 1st few days of, of, of this as to this current escalation that hosted in terms of water and electricity . actually gaza buys most of its water, at least half of it applies from it is really company that provides water thread the same thinking of buying electricity from guys really, grids and, and, you know, a compensates with solar, with solar panels and fuel on, from the, for the power plant, so they are dependent on these resources by israel and the fact that these can be shut off each time isn't. i mean, is it, you know, is it is a serious violation of until out and national. i may well, i'm out so more crime. yes indeed. me months so i'm not so sure if you've been able
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to see uh from within gaza over the last week or so. rallies shows of solidarity with palestinians had been growing larger and larger. right around the world. they were more than a 1000000 people, a 2000 stumble, hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people in london, turned out to, to walk along the streets, the protesting what is happening inside garza? how important is it? i mean, i know it doesn't actually change the situation, but how important is it the people to put pressure, especially on the western governments that have sided with israel here. how important is it from someone sitting inside garza to see that and i guess for people to keep that up. um, honestly uh whenever the people get have access to social media and vcs, everyones patients all around the world times to support the cause of the stadium. people get them drugs though trying to put pressure on the government has seized
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the pressure on us for you. this but it's dismissed to on behalf of the 2 boys see many of you living in laws. i want to take each and every one of you. most of these demonstrations for i'd say that the government official will put scratch out in different ways in piece called buttons, which try to apply the basic human rights. that's all the imprints are in the u. n . all this has been gives me the stuff that has been going to escalate to him over the last 23 days. mm hm. we begin this program by asking one question. one that is very difficult to answer because no one seemingly has been able to come up with one. what do you think is actually going to stop this collective punishment? what is happening with the sage and gaza? what, what is the disconnect of? but it's, but it's meant to me, yes,
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i think there wouldn't be this would be a strong political wouldn't move the political leader in the ward and the you want to pressure on it to the, from the international community, from the you and the buses. and from the political and lead us, as mentioned on to, from the people of the war to continue really they think the voices and demonstrating guess as to protest against this escalation against start getting this to be a to is to of, to force. is it a 2 attempts to international the no, this should be a collective ward of the action in from all governments. i don't, the ward is to in order to get them to come together in to the, to see why it gets you to play. and for the people who are taking care of for read it for more than 23,
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did bush read. do you have any heart at this point in time? that at the very least, we're going to see a humanitarian ceasefire put in place before you know more and more people die and goes a, you know, um, organizations like all the time have been raising the alarm bells for years on the situation of gods on what we've been calling for is not only and, and to the siege. and of course an immediate cease fire that goes without saying, but an end to the siege and for the international community to deal with the root causes of this issue. for them walk towards a, a real time bound time with t accountability mechanisms for each point of that time. so uh for a tour as you know, the justice and this important this injustice to resolve this injustice and to resolve this violence. and we have been calling that for 3 years now. and,
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and that is also my call. and i, i urge also people to support the call that came out a couple weeks ago by more than 600 organizations globally, including big international organizations of one is which one is else from calling for an immediate cease fire, but also an entire ceasefire. proposal is part of the open call and its gardner. now more than half a 1000000 signatures and about a week, we urge people to continue making that call for an immediate cease fire. as you said, we have seen it globally. the street has spoken. now leaders need to to represent that constituents. they were, they represent constituents, we represent these people and they have to address it. it's, it's their responsibility as elected leaders. so you know, we, enough of the persistent failure of the international community. it is now time and now there's a window to take real action. and then so we have about one minute left in the
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program. i just want to ask you briefly how angry are people there about the lack of action from the international community? the people here are chimney, all the motions, and so action is like a, b, hi. everyone is probably to has to reduce the impact of what is happening and you know, and i've been in the process of buying them in whatever way they can go to leave the pressure of the people here. yes, people all angry. however, they believe that all they can do at this point is the 5 how you put out all of them the best on line. thank you so much a month. so we, we really appreciate it and really, hopefully your annual family safety the inside gone. so thank you all 3 of you for joining us on al jazeera, mentor, sherman bush, directly the entry home to far a. thank you so much. one. thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, which is there
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a dot com. and so through the discussion, go to about facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story. you can also join the conversation on x, fully known as twitter. handle is at a inside story. for me, tell mccrae and the whole team here, bye for now the . it does have been some fold. we cover every angle of these waiting. oh god. why would is real that crossing is really deputy foreign minister. he thinks that the rules of the game has changed. i'm on israel steps, is that it will certainly look at the least of more of these captives. what you might have to your drugs. are you telling view is faulty? i you and experts on bison wrong? well you have to do is look at the u. n. schools in gaza. beach. why are you looking up? i'm? i am hearing something i said to me,
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