the over the past few days and according to the needs agriculture, minute stuff, more than 40000, all these trees and some of them are ancient with burn people around this area are mostly farmers, some of them, a lot of the left and whoever is still here is now preparing to leave, given the escalation that's taking this conflict more into the desktops, anybody's bored to the same us on these really bought them more than 10 kilometers . a 12 meters is now. part of this waterfront with us is what is hitting this and has been lost on some occasions along with its own allies hitting is ready depth. we actually measure 0 look forward to talking about is demonstrators of held up red stained hands and tie cause behind us secretary of state antony, blinking. and secretary of defense, lloyd austin in washington dc. the young people protest happens when the lincoln in austin testified to the senate appropriations committee and j. by since request for

$105000000000.00 us dollars for a few crane. and israel, i call you joe custer has the latest just as us secretary of state and to the blinking lobby congress for more military support to israel protestors calling for a cease fire and gaza interrupted him at least 8 times the hearing before the senate appropriations committee. was paused briefly as the protesters were removed and blinking acknowledged the growing calls for a cease fire con, coming from after this and some portions of the american public. all of us are committed to the protection of civilian life. all of us know the suffering that is taking place as we speak. all of us are determined to see it in. but all of us know, the imperative of standing up with our allies and partners when their security, when their democracies are threatened. lincoln described in graphic detail the

deaths of his rarely civilians when they were attacked by him on october 7th. he did not describe in any detail suggests a 1000 civilians who had been bombed by israel since he did say that gaza must receive more humanitarian aid. and said, there has been no evidence that any 8 sent us far has been diverted to him. us congress is considering whether to approve an additional $14000000000.00 of military a to, to is real and $60000000000.00 of a to ukraine. democrats want to pass aid for both countries in one package, but many republicans have expressed hesitation and getting more help to ukraine. heidi to castro alger 0 washington of the pack in the hall, so i was more coverage of the for on costs. the bottom line is next statements, the

the latest news as it breaks the minutes. those are fine enough as of to cheat and quote for an immediate and to the warning of with detailed coverage. but would have said that he had been warning that they would be of our me in the cation, if there isn't a resolution to the palestinian issue from around the world. passionate speeches and tends to fall on the scene, have so far, failed to yield. the unified physician and the security council stairs from i'll just say around on the go and meet tonight. i'll just there is only mobile app. is that the, this is where we just fix allies from out is there is a mobile app available in your favorites apps to just set for it and type download the new app from out to 0 new at you think is it hi,

i'm steve clements and i have a question or the wars we see today from gaza to ukraine, a sign of decline of american influence and power in the world. let's get to the bottom line. the more than 7000 palestinians have been killed by non stop is really bombing since the shock in our attack from us on october 7th. what about 1400 is really, is, were killed and about 200 others were taken hostage. the united nations has been warning about a huge humanitarian catastrophe, with millions of people innocent in this conflict, living under constant showing with no food, electricity, water, medicine, or fuel to keep the hospitals and ambulances running. but the un, which is lost about 30 of its own staff and gaza, has so far been ineffective. us president joe biden says he won't call for a cease fire or otherwise interfere in his really military plans even as pure as mount for a wider conflict in the region. and in eastern europe, the ukraine,

russian conflict, brian's on also with no end in sight. so what are today's region conflicts telling us about shifting global power? is america still a nation whose positions matter to the rest of the world? or is it leaving a power vacuum that's being filled by other forces? today we're talking with charles captain, a senior fellow at the council on foreign relations professor of international affairs at georgetown university and author of the end of the american era. u. s. foreign policy and the geo politics of the 21st century to dr. covington. thank you so much for joining us. this is a world and places in the world where american power used to matter. and i've just been reading your book again and wondering whether the contraction of america in the world is somehow creating these conditions. you know, i think there are 2 big develop and steve that are making world of fuel policy terms, making the world feel like it's going upside down. one of them i think we saw coming

and that is the diffusion of power, right? we used to live in a world dominated by the united states and its democratic partners that represented say, 75 percent of global g d p. and we're now heading into a world in which power will be the center, in which the number one power in the world within a decade or so will probably be china, india and may be number 2 in. the news is climbing the ranks. brazil getting stronger and stronger and this is just leading to the return of rivalries that come with multiple centers of power. the, everything that's happened and i think it, many of us did not see it coming. is the weakening of the liberal anchor of the global system. and in particular, with the political weakening that we've seen here in the united states with the

political center in the united states. hollowing out with a liberal, populism on raw, in rise, and both sides of the atlantic. and this, in some ways hampers the ability of united states and its partners to anchor this in an advent of all turn this moment in which there is an inflection, wind, a ship, the distribution of power to a much more novelty power. what people call a poly centered world. so these 2 things are combining to create a real sense of disorientation to within the is real, how mos conflict. now, president joe biden has refused to call for a ceasefire, refused to say he's going to intervene in any way and what the israelis are doing. we've also refused to call for a ceasefire in the ukraine, russia conflict, and i like americans to have a realistic sense of how that's perceived around the world and that there are other

major powers. and i'll, you know, mentioned turkey and air to one. see the world differently, and are we in a situation where america is lost, the ability to be the great hedge, a monic benign power. and now other nations in the world are organizing against that, as it picks one side or the other in these complex you know, i probably distinguish carefully between the war and crane and what's happening. and in israel, in the we're a, the israel is in the middle of carrying out against some us in ukraine. i think what we've seen is a situation in which ukraine is suffering a ball act of aggression by russia and in which the united states and its allies have agreed to help your brain, but don't have boots on the ground. and in the end of the day, the u. s. has said this is ukraine's more a brand names are fine. i think a dining ukraine makes the final call about what it's more ends are. and if the

premiums want to keep fighting and try to get back from me and try to get it back, every interest you friday in territory, that's very right. but i do say that much of the global south is not taking sides despite the fact that this is a ball active progression. and i think that is in many respects, a consequence of a world in which many immersion powers are hatching in which china is now the lender of 1st resort and much of the global. so in which 2 thirds of the countries of the world trade war with china, that makes it with the united states. and so the country like india, like south africa, nigeria, brazil, indonesia. they don't want to take sides in what looks like a new era of east west rivalry. and as a consequence, they are sitting on the fence even though i think this is

a more that is very clearly a word of aggression against ukraine in which countries, at least ethically and morally, should band together against russia. in the case of israel war with how boss, i think it's, it's more complicated in the sense that the israel palestine conflict is one in which there are doing verging opinions about morality, about ethics, about legality, about human re, writes that have divided the united states and many other parts of the world for quite a long time. and i think that's what we're seeing way out here. i think given the nature of the atrocities that come off, carried out on october 7th, israel is seen as having a right to defend himself and having the right to respond with force. how is conflict, ways out, however, we're have

a big impact on how the rest of the world reacts whether civilian casualties are next to a minimum, whether 80 flows in to goss in the form of fuel medicine, food whether we see in an effort to arrive at some sort of reasonable piece process at the end of the conflict. right now we're in the middle of it, it's proving to be a very divisive, bloody tragic event. from your experience do you think is real? can go through the steps it wants to do right now in destroying hamas and the way of doing it and not have this conflict grow so far more significant in terms of numbers and scale. well, i think the president biden has got more or less writing and walk to fine line in the sense of supporting israel going to is real in the middle of the conflict,

providing military assistance to israel. but at the same time being very explicit and saying don't be blinded by rage dos, make the same mistakes the united states did after 911 where we intervene in the, in afghanistan, and iraq and libya and syria. and in many respects, the produce much more chaos then stability. and i think it's a wise warning to israel because is read only is headed into a densely populated urban environment. under the best of circumstances, there will be significant casualties on both sides. the united states learn the hard way in the rock. the military force is good at destroying things, but not very good at creating desire political outcomes. and so i think that israel right now is trying to figure out how to balance its desire justified in my

mind. to dismantle a boss with the reality that it's going to be a top floor and it has to play the long game and figure out what god will look like afterward. what is the relationship with cause spinning is and the broader middle east will be like when the dust settles. we have long you right now is you and i are talking in washington, the foreign minister of china. he said he believes that israel's actions have now gone beyond the level of self defense in response. but is he, as you just said, essentially making a play to the global south. and again, taking advantage of this moment to maximize china's position of looking like the good player in the world. you know, i think the china, that is, that is somewhat ambivalence about the war and the brain. and now the word that we

see in the middle east, in the sense that the chinese have risen to a cig to become a significant player on the back of g o, political and g o e phenomena stability. and even though they've sided with food and supporter at least nominal way rushes war against ukraine, i'm not sure that they see this as a net gain for china. and that's again because this is leading to global fragmentation, it is leading to economic di copland. and as it tends to fine, china is rivalry with the united states and the west. but i think you're right steve, that what china is doing here is in some ways attempting to stay out of these conflicts. yeah. at the same time, explain them to increase its standing in the global sat to play the role of the country. we've been standing up to western in germany. and in some ways,

i think it's, it's irresponsible in doing so because it is a thing in a bad thing, rushes aggression against ukraine and rather than trying to play a work constructive role. busy in the middle east, whether is helping to negotiate the release of hostages. figuring out how to limit damage of getting the manager and assistance into gaza. it's this has been doing some ways exploit the issue to try to raise its profile in the global south. and in some ways, i think as a consequence, its position is going to further explain the tensions that we see out there between the west the united states. on the one hand, china on the other, a trolley i want to play a sound clip for you from secretary of state, tony blinking. let's listen. keep water,

electricity for children, for the elderly, for the sick. these are president pollutants, new targets. he's heading them hard. this brutalization of ukraine's people is barbaric. so i'm just sort of interested in one the hypocrisy of the moment, you know, talking about the same device as being used to turn something off and are not being able to talk about with regard to israel and then trying to help the other side. why the response has been so pathetically small? well, you know, i think that the united states has made clear from the beginning that it has decided, is best to get the border crossing to egypt open to get a flowing has been discussing with israel howard prosecute this war as we were speaking about a few minutes ago, mr. biden said very clearly, don't mistake the same, don't make the same mistakes we did. don't be blinded by rage. so i think this is

a, a work in progress. but given that the, the attacks on october 7 were over the top were atrocities. now you have women children, grandmothers kidnapped, be hostage in gaza. i think one can understand to some extent, israel's rage and israel's response. but i do think that there is a middle ground here and that involves a careful but strong military operation. i guess i'm ok. leadership again, i'm off fighters against the tunnels, the weapons depos width at the same time, efforts to protect civilians to get little fuel water medicine into gaza. so as to diminish and minimize the humanitarian emergency. there is an evidently on the phone. when our boss decides to use its own power,

spivey in brother and as human shields, i guess my question to you is about the tyranny of a nurse. yeah. and the vested interest, they build up the don't want to see progress on these, you know, fragile geostrategic hot points. is that part of the game we have to accept that we're always going to have certain nodes in the world that continually erupt like this as well. and you know, i just as my friend and colleague richard hoss squared a few days ago in the middle east, things get worse before they get worse. and i think the message here is trying to build peace in the region, trying to get rock row small between longstanding adversaries. it is very difficult business. i take my hat off to president obama for trying to reset their relationship with russia for attempting to decrease the animosity with places

like it wrong in cuba. and he did to some extent succeed and decided that he didn't succeed. but i do say we have to keep try. and steve, we know from history, that piece does break out. right. the french and the germans were killing each other for centuries. and you now drive from france to germany, and you see no border crossings. the united states has a relationship with its neighbors, in which the prospect of war is on thinkable, not in the realm of the possible pockets of peace do whatever. and so i think when it comes to the relationship between israelis and palestinians, when it comes to the relationship of the united states and china, we have to keep trying to push things in a positive direction. we know from history,

the default position in international politics is competition is rivalry. in some cases is our driver. but we also know from history we met when you work hard enough. you can overcome. that is an admirable, a feeling that things are slipping away. this is one of those moments doesn't historical inflection points where i think we could go either way. we could see the 21st century slip toward geopolitical competition, d globalization of liberal populism. where we could look at the moment that we're in now and push the candle in back in the right direction. at this point, i think it's too soon to tell which way we're going to be head. president biden's national security advisor jake sullivan. just publish the $7000.00 word article in foreign affairs and it's focusing on the future of the world and america's place in

it. one of the lines of, of many, uh, is it. the world is becoming more contested in the united states. cannot talk only with those who share its vision or values. and it made me wonder whether or not as you sort of look at what jake sullivan is trying to communicate, is the same moment of realism, where americans finally beginning to understand the limits of its power and capabilities that is in, in fact, going to begin talking with other players, with, with which it may not get along the way because i haven't seen that as part of the, of the, by the administration's direction. certainly not the trump administration, but wonder whether you think the limits on american power are finally beginning to shape the way we think about what we can do in the world. well, you know, i would start by quoting the 1st sentence in, in jake's very interesting article, that 1st sentence was not thinking international politics is inevitable. and i would take issue with that analysis because i think some things are inevitable.

number one, change in the distribution of power, right? we go back to the 1700 and we saw how early world sheer from the east to the west. and europe in north america together, had been at the top of the heat, leading the path for quite some time. we now see our beginning to shift from west to east and from work this out. that's going to make the world more difficult and we're unpredictable. more on certain the united states is not going to be able to call the shots in the same way that it used to. we're going to have to get used to a multi polar world. we're gonna have to get used to. pearl isn't an ideological diversity because that's the world that we're headed toward. that seems to need to be inevitable. that haven't been said. i would agree with j that there's a lot of room for tainting that world and channeling

a more di, centered world in a positive direction. but it will take working across the field with the ideological dividing lines. we now live, steve and the world. it is work in a dependent and global life than ever before. many of the challenges that we need to face. oh, both as a country and as international citizens require broad based global cooperation. and that means working with countries with whom we may not share the same principles on the same values. i think the by the ministration got off to a more ideal logic and start event was probably a advisable democracy versus autocracy with us or against us. now i think it's realize that it needs a more pragmatic a more practical approach. but i do think that behind the scenes,

the united states has been reaching out to china. we've seen a steady set of efforts for a cabinet officials to head to china. jake sullivan has twice and the recent past met with the chinese leadership. i think there's a sense that we don't want to go down the rabbits full of a new cold war. let's see if we can't find ways of working with the chinese to meet global challenges, even if we may disagree with them about human rights, about democracy, and even about to your political issues in these days. let me just ask you finally in political science, we learned about predicting foreign policy, the continuity typically of policies from one administration to the next administration, regardless of political party. but it seems like that world is gone. and particularly when you look at a country like a ron, and if you were basically to say in your calculation that we should sit down and

talk to a ron, we've had a zigzag and those policies. do you think as you look at the few, the situation in america right now, which is part of that topsy turvy dimension that you started with at the beginning? do you suspect that we're not going to have continuity in american foreign policy any longer that we're going to continue to see zigzags and instability and the way we approach and engage the world? you will see, you know, that this zigzag yet and a rabbit state crap that you're referring to is a, if you go back to the code, we're really beginning with f d r. 1941, pearl harbor, democrats and republicans came together and there was a role are ideologically sensors, bi partisan compact, that student behind a study brand of american statecraft. those days are gone. mainly because we've seen the hollowing out of the political center in the united states. and as

a consequence, when power changes hands in washington from democrats, republicans, you get wild swings in foreign policy. i think that it is likely to continue depending upon who wins the next election, simply because there is a fundamental ideological cleavage along partisan lines about america's role in the world. for me, i think the key here is rebuilding the american political center from the ground strengths in the united states starts at home. and i think the key to our future, both our domestic future and our ability to play a purposeful and effective international role is rebuilding bipartisanship. rebuild the consensus that is going to take, getting marick and working americans back up of your fee. well, we'll have to end it there. georgetown university professor charles,

captain senior fellow at the council on foreign relations. thank you so much for joining us today. steve. it's been my pleasure to him. so what's the bottom line beneath all of this analysis, global strategy and us support for israel and ukraine, and russia testing the west and the role of non state actors beneath all of that are real people and real families. one of our colleagues here at alex's here of the bureau chief and gods have just lost 4 members of his family after and his really airstrikes hit. what is really official said was terrorist infrastructure? wild goose family had already fled more than gaza, as he is rarely said, warn people to do, but they were killed any way after fleeing south. this is real while has lost most of his family and there are thousands of other innocent people on both sides of this conflict who lost their families this month. yes, we should be thinking through policies and global crises and asking you how we got here. but sometimes it's just time to give our sincere condolences to those who

have just lost loved ones. and that's the bottom line. as the situation in gaza escalate, we bring your expertise antenna, let's say for each time use re u r. c. is that the beam, the palestinians have to style south to where the, how much has got to comply with international the is y'all can do what it really. that's the reason why is well keeps behaving. so currently i would say this particular operation somewhere between the crime against humanity and genocide, it was really important that there was a jewish boy saying not in our name. you don't believe that this kind of aggression makes you safer. it doesn't make is rarely safer. state with us for the latest developments on tuesday. the

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