the, the says, the war on goes, continues. alger 0 goes to the largest hospital in the strip, to witness how deteriorating conditions and desperate shortages are impacting the lives of so many of those phases connected to active shilling. spilling should be sifting this with the wash on stem medical stuff, and those in need of treatment reflect on the hardship of this conflict. if the electricity runs out. so just become the mass graves causes and shift a hospital. on the brink on al jazeera, set to advantage rates demolitions dramatic rise and his radio attacks across the occupied westbank since the stalls of the war on garza, the us and the west have criticized israel's actions against palestinians. the will they still page. this is inside story, the

hello again, i'm james bays. when i look global gaze has been on want some of the cold, a genocide in gaza. the occupied westbank too, was seen a rise in his really violent since october. the 7th. more than a 130 palestinians have been killed since then, raged demolitions attacks by settlers have become a near daily occurrence in what's been described as the worst you for palestinians in recent memory will past begun to speak out against israel's actions in the occupied westbank but candidly pressure it to stop the bottoms and it's a legal settlement activity. we'll discuss all of this with all panel of guess in a moment. but 1st victoria, kate and b as all update. it is really settlers attack palestinian homes, new ramallah in the occupied westbank the un human rights. so for says,

such attacks have increased significantly since as roseville. wrong cause it began more than 3 weeks ago. his family was targeted when settlers and his ready soldiers stopped the funeral cortege for 3 palestinians killed by settlers on tuesday and a boy or my father and brother and others from the village. what are the intersection? the central stuff that you think people, my brother was shot in the neck and back. my father was also shot and it took him 10 minutes to die. and we raised by these really minute tree in the occupied westbank level. so increase since october, the 7th. the janine refugee camp has long b and a sense of a palestinian armed resistance to israel's illegal occupation. now the new mirror and her family are enjoying nightly rates and no foot down uh, we tried to find for the safest corner in the house to hide in the sound of the explosions is terrifying. i've had to take her to the hospital twice because she wanted to shop. it's the same for all families were struggling to cope. the u. n

says 1000 palestinians have been displaced in the occupied westbank in the past 3 weeks. a tory un human rights official who resign citing the agencies handling of the war and gaza says what's happening in the occupied westbank is textbook, genocide is usually the most difficult part of clothing. genocide is content. in this case, the intent by his reading leaders has been so explicitly stated and publicly stated by the prime minister, by the president, by senior cabinet ministers, by military leaders. that is an easy case to make. the united states says it's deeply concerned by what it calls the uptake and violence against palestinians in the occupied westbank. it's uh israel to prevent attacks as the mass killing of civilians in gaza, continues. palestinians in the occupied westbank are suffering to what the un describes as an unfolding crisis,

victoria gates and b for inside story. well, let's discuss all of this more now with a panel of guess. and then also that we have gals, hilton, and who is program director for the middle east and north africa, the international crisis group in ramallah in the occupied westbank, marian bog duty policy analyst, with the policy and policy network. and in london, toby cabin, an international human rights lawyer and a specialist in war crimes. thank you. all of you for spending time with us. we are going in this program to be discussing the west bank and the very desperate situation in the west bank right now. but i'd like to start with you marian as the death toll in gauze. now goes over $9000.00. how of people in the west bank watching the events in garza because i know many people have family or extended family that the right to send him to. the west bank are horrified and what's happening in it lives in terms of genocidal practices against palestinians. there

you had a close more than 9000 palestinians killed in a day, and you had more than a 1000 bombs a day being drop. that's equivalent to a miss uh, or an air strike per every palestinian kill, immunize it, and then the was bank. you've had a $141.00 palestinians killed since october 7. um $340.00 palestinians killed since the beginning of the year. that's before on the, the large scale military and genocide that's happening in eventually. so for palestinians it's, it's watching their own people get killed while also expecting a large scale military invasion in the west bank as well as a slaughter by is really settlers were being heavily armed by the minister of national security. and they is really military. meanwhile, is accelerating,

it's the tension of palestinians. we've had almost 2000 palestinians or a 1900 to be exact, arrested since the beginning of the year. and you have 2000 palestinians being held and this is really military prisons and under administrative detention, that means there is no actual charge against them and they're not even afford it trials. so you can see the galatian of that. and then comes the, the labor workers from a positive that got stuck in the west bank quite literally running for their lives . so from, from, within the day is rarely settlements that they were working in. is an either trying to come to the west bank or find refuge and you have is really filters, stripping them and stepping under ahead. so the crimes of, of genocide and ethnic cleansing are not exclusive. the lenses board as verifying and that has the, is, is the in 10 city and the speed in which it is happening. but that is the largest

scale is really project to, to, i think like lens palestinians. and that's what we're seeing happening here. you know, so if i could ask you about these vegas, cuz you have most of the situation in the westbank for many years, according to the under a commission to general the palestinian fatalities of the highest since the un started keeping records in 2005 and they were highest, a bought by before the events of october. and, and it's worth noting that last year was the previous grim hi. i really see here an escalation in the west bank. and that was happening well before october 7th, before the 1000 war. and of course, i know we're seeing a, even a spike on top of that. and that is particularly worthy some because it does work to lead to

a much wider conflicts. and one place where this could be triggered in each in the west bank. so if the situation gets out of hands because of sylvester commissioned by suffers for example or days where the army shooting a protest as or even a be a sure to that pro just then. uh, we could, we could see uh, a new uh personal vidas and the best bang. and that's a good may be tough to balance regionally because we are seeing the actors the wrong groups already. uh, targeting israel from afar know very effectively. and i think the purpose was that could change that could change a soon as something really goes terribly wrong and the best time in addition to what is already happening. and as of which is for richard toby if we're going to talk about israel's culpability here. first, perhaps you can help me. israel is the occupying power on the international law.

isn't it? what obligations does it have? i think it was the settling, and i think we've spoken about this repeatedly recently, and this is not of options. it's not new phenomena. we're looking at this thing here and on the is the us. israel isn't horrifying. those are 2 on the whole. geneva convention, the responsibility is that attached to that moving populations in 2 occupied areas. countries a little prime, moving populations i the internally or externally. i'm kind of also, i'm at 22 more problem we've, we've been looking at this and reviews. i myself, i'm traveling to, to, to is dressed in 2016 to, to, to look at the question. all settlements and false displacement. we took this to the international criminal court. we know that this is something that the best future these african nicole is looking at. we know the fact you've been to the previous to substitute that into cold. i didn't buy this as one of the areas that i

was just looking into. so regardless of what we see happening on the 7th of october and regardless of the the risk crimes we see been committed also there, there is none. the less war crimes being committed in the west thing, including these drawers. i mean we've, we've done that for some time and we really need to move forward with holding those individuals accountable for their actions. and then the, the actions offset those who, who are leasing violence on behalf of things and the best buy. and that's those are the responsibility of this rep for funding to prevent it. and failing to publish that memory. i mean, if i can focus on the death toll right now, i've found something written by the humanitarian um, of the un all sure. it says, all of the palestinian fatalities since the 7th of october, almost 50 percent. we get killed during confrontations. that followed is really to

search and arrest operations. so he 5 percent in the context of demonstrations. install the darcy with garza. so 50 percent. right. so i think we would say, and 35 percent demonstrations does that match with what your seeing and hearing on the ground. so the number of palestinians being targeted um, uh, in, in search interest invasions and, and just terrorizing missions is actually higher. and you had is really military and is really forces target palestinian civilians as well. um and claim that it was done and, and self defense claim. it was done because there was a protest. orion, even though you know you wouldn't just wouldn't have had started then. but what i'm also seeing on the ground is that is really forces are hardly even using a tier guster going straight for the lisa weapons. and that's light and munition.

and a lot of then the killing as you can see there, they're targeted. so they're killing palestinians by or directly shooting either chest or their head. but what's scarier than this is that since the beginning of the year, the broad majority of palestinians killed by israel, our children and miners, and the same trend applies with other day. so it's, it's not just, you know, where the palestinian is being killed. the issue is that a palestinian is being killed. you $26.00 days more than uh, $9000.00 palestinians killed around and stored cause time. these number hers are fine. so in the west bank we're only seeing what's gonna be worse unfortunately, because on gaza when, when israel had dropped almost 6, that as in bonds by october 12th. and nobody said anything. the number of

palestinians killed skyrocketed from 3000. and what we're seeing now that almost reaching 10000 to so it's really important to recognize that in the west bank, similar phenomena will happen. and that is settlers will exponentially increase their attacks on palestinians just in the past 72 hours. i have seen a significant increase in settlers attacking positive mean villages and is really force is forces invading processing in town. i think all of this morning where they killed 2 palestinians. one of them was a 14 year old and then shot from the illegal settlement across from the cemetery and vermont. look at the mourners. and this all happened before noon. i expect to see an intensification of settler tags joined by the military. and i think that's the scary part. it's not where the palestinians being killed is that the palestinian will be killed. that's the promise. that is really forces and settlers had been said for beta. yes. with regard to the demonstrations. clearly,

people in the westbank seeing what is going on in gauze, i want to demonstrate. i think i'm right in saying that i'm on the these are is ready moment treat little you call and have a demonstration with out more than 10 people. but otherwise, you would need permission from the military. that doesn't get permission. is that right to? well, you know, i just, i think it's totally irrelevant because most, and he is still demonstrated with or without department. they're certainly not going to ask is a profession for apartment. the problem is more that's uh, 1st of all, but a sending us a fragmented source that's going to be demonstrations. they will test to be strictly local and then most probably coordinate just very effectively. secondly, the posting authorities so is trying to, to prevent demonstrations because that is there, they see that there's their role. and that is very unfortunate because the 1st any of us or should be presenting the published any population of the oxford westbank and stuff. we see that it's just actually have 2 more secure or as well in addition

to it's, it's because it's governing role in providing essential service to people. it's also very corrupt. in any case, the demonstrations will happen regardless, but a series of showing time and again that they will risk devise a going out to the streets where they see that they're the mental interest. so right, so the invited to be in terms of these demonstrations where these right need security forces are using live ammunition just to be absolutely clear. is there any excuse for that international law to disperse pretenders with live? i munition, the way we live. god says in other jurisdictions, i'm frankly, and i have to say this is if this is happening anywhere else in the world, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. and i think we have to have the car to say that since we're having this discussion because of it is, is wrong about us on it is ludicrous to suggest that it is justified to use

live munition, to, to, to dispel. and what is arguably a peaceful demonstration, i mean, when we looked at the, in the context of similar do do, what do we support the as oper, james, in using live, i munition, to kill a single thousands of protesters that force me to do. do we allow that in bangladesh to realize that instead of these nothing close to that we can damage and we weren't really. we also have the, the defense minister, the very wrong when the defense minister, who there's commenting for grades of powers for falls in place, the more calls for me to use live. i munition without voting. i mean, is the whole concept is basically the latest of it. so to be just to be clear, because at the beginning of the program we had a i, i extract of an interview out to 0 did with the full my head of the un human rights

office in new york. he has quits his job saying it's a textbook case of genocide. do you agree with us? i think we have to be careful. we have to analyze it when we were talking about a legal definition of a must have to do that is very difficult to establish. i've, i've recently said that, you know, when we look at the conflict in both of those are the ones for the aspect of the conflict. but that was, that was deemed to maps to the prime of genocide. it's very difficult about to, to prove that. but when you have statements such as garza needs to be flatten, golfing needs to be white that and targeting the entire palestinian people that and you know, this has owns a full box about genocide. one of the questions that came up recently is, is where the, the, the, the, the removal or attempted extermination of a political movement kind of mind to,

to genocide. that's not what is covered in the genocide convention. it is, there are certain protective groups that we look at when we look at the problem of genocide. but we're not talking about just the extermination, almost as a, as a movement political military. we're talking about talk to last indians we, we had a repeated statements from the phone is ro, is ready, politicians cooling for the complete removal. i mean, that is disturbing language. and then of course that, that approaches the definition of genocide. but again, we, we shouldn't always look at things a bit different crimes on the sliding scale of severity. i mean, even, even if we don't establish this is jim saw it coming from scratch. amount of the big thing committed, i'm on, i'm pretty massive scale. i'm as we hit 9000 out of savings in killed 1400 in

israel. i mean we're go to the cost of cost on both sides of the scale of the atrocities as it said, it significant enough. even if we don't play below, just not just if i can bring you in on, on these railey rates that have been taking place a little across the west bank, but a particular focus on jeanine. and i know that your international crisis group has done research on the groups in jeanine. what is your view of how powerful those groups are? when we looked at the germs, this will be called a new generation of our groups in a while explaining why we call them the uh, you know, areas of the west bank. they say they started to janine and novice, but they've also spread to, to kind of until boss and they're really and jericho, and many other places. we called a new generation because so because they're different from what you've seen in the past the past. but just in your resistance, sort of minutes or condition was usually organized through one of the main. oops,

be it's thought i feel like a thief. i'll be your how this works and you'll be other groups that to get to make up the city and national home. and these people who are know, the part of these, these new groups is don't see themselves as part of the city national homeless, broadly speaking. but i hope organize it any way, and then the police are associated directly adults of the accept the leadership of any of these groups. they are acting autonomously. organ, smoke independently in coordination with, with others like them on the ground. they may be members or 5 these groups, but that is their relevance because they, they don't the seat boundaries between them. so, so he could have a father has a mazda, and he will be fighting next to each other in the same local group. the other thing is that they are based mostly in the urban areas in areas a of the west bank. and they are, they are mostly responding to is really army incursions into area. but it is where

the army is not supposed to be. so actually they are self defense groups in many ways, and they're also, and this has to be said they don't particularly effective because they, they basically expressing in frustration was an intolerable state as quote. but there consist of, of young people, in many cases of the tree, the age of 50 to 30. so relative to young, of, or more into performance. sometimes then the actual hardcore resistance, they don't hide their identity. so many cases they put themselves and their identities on social media as a way to, to be seen and to, to be recognized as heroes, i suppose. but it is not really an effective way of finding a military occupation. so it's always been courts of effective in suppressing these groups, but these groups are symptom of the people's best any this frustration was submitted

to our conviction. so while you can suppress some groups, i think in general, urge for people to, to resist in many different ways. of putting or groups, well they'll continue for a long time. so by and that's these riley rates that's taking place around the westbank and particularly engine let janine but palestinians are facing another for us. how they not that facing, not just these riley minute treat that facing. the settlers who are monroe didn't gains around the westbank. i was speaking to a friend on the west bank of the a role and i said, who are you more frightened? don't these really military, all the settlers and she said to me, it doesn't make a difference. is that what you would say? i think it doesn't make a difference in that. we forget that is really, soldiers are also settlers in an official state uniform. and that's the, that's what it means. it doesn't make a difference. and again, m in a palestinian killed as opposed to being killed. that doesn't matter if the, the is really calling for genocide killing them is wearing

a uniform or not. but it's really settlers and as, as we see these different communities that have illegally built basically settlements in the west bank by forcibly kicking out palestinians at gunpoint from their homes. and as well as what we have seen in jerusalem, what we have also seen in portland, palestine during the period of 19481967. it is that they don't care, they don't care about international law. they don't care about palestinian lives. the only objective is to push pallet scene out and build this great state of israel. and as we have seen from the very disturbing language being used by the prime minister is really forces representatives. and an average is really settlers, is that the to arabs is basically the national slogan,

is that palestinians aren't even real people of the they never really existed here . so these are the 2 somebody see not mind tonight. just bringing the aspect to this, which is the international community and what they should do because actually for the 1st time that have been comments coming from parts of the international community, listen to this from the state department spokesman. we have made quite clear to uh, the governor of israel, that we are very concerned about, settler violence in the west bank. we find incredibly destabilizing, we find it kind of counterproductive to israel's long term security. in addition to, of course, being extremely harmful to the palestinians. living in the west bank and we have sent a very clear message to them that it's unacceptable. it needs to stop and those responsible for it need to be held accountable to think israel will listen to words like that coming from its closest outline. it's not coming from,

it's close as the allies coming from it's comrade in arms. the united states has been the fact still fighting on the ground on against palestinians. and with that is it, it has consistently armed israel with the weapons that it has today that it is using to commit genocide or practices against palestinian. and essentially the u. s. has been tied, teeming with israel. um, to cut of telecommunications to have the systemic malpractice in journalism that we are the same, which is denying a worldwide audience is to really see what's happening on the ground. and we're trying, we're trying audio here now. does it really we're trying here on out to 0 for the world to see what's going on then and it's not ok, but that is an exception. and that's the anomaly right? to be, if i can for now with that's the united states. and in the same time,

you're having soldiers posts under take talk accounts and their social media of how they are taking on corpses of palestinians, or that they are very proud of the way they're, they're committing their torture and abuse against palestinian detainees. so it really does go to show you that the united states right now is an accomplice and, and, and, and committing crimes of genocide and crimes against human level for you just are married. let me bring in bringing. that'd be bringing in to be that as the international lawyer, do you think the threats of, of, of some accountability at some stage could be a restraint on his rental. uh, they just not going to listen to anybody. well, i think the threat has to be real and it has to be backed up with action. i mean, man condemnation is not gonna change anything. i mean, when you told him about the position of the community was quite shamed to listen to

one of our ministers in united kingdom yesterday. who said that the, you take the position is that is our own car, had these actions in accordance with the international mall. it's, it is, it's shameful and balancing the here so statements, because it is, it is starting far away from insightful as one could imagine. i think was the united kingdom says, what do you notice that states says is, is important. i mean i, i listened to statements this morning by us senate to what else the question, is there anything that you would condemn israel doing remain? and he said, no, it wasn't. and that's, that's the problem and it's, is, rose is not going to change in the situation is not going to change it unless there is a real action taken on accountability and the as guarantor on the wire. a very strong position to break position,

been taken by the prostitute during the cold and individuals being charged, whether it is in respect of all promises actions on the 7th of october. the last of whether it's the, the attacks, the gaza or the attacks that we see now in the west bank that has to, has to come under under the district even. so if you come have any resolution to this, unless you have a process of justice and accountability, we've seen that the world over if you do know addresses the cycle of the violence continues and it will continue to be thank you. thank you to all guess. yes, hilton and marian bog duty and toby cabinet are expensive. coverage continues around the talk with reporting from out teams. and you want to find where spike i'm going is that you'll find the old on out. is there a don't come you how to come in to add to our discussion is that will go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story on x, fully known as twitter at ha inside story for me and all the teams stay safe,

bye for now, the thought provoking on. but the patient doesn't have time to wait for extremely unfortunately. there are no quick wins and events or research hard hitting interviews. do you feel like america is less than the rest of these days or is it just a different full? i think the democracy in the process facing realities. do you feel that the fraction is already starting the g 7 in the us on one side, china and the brakes on the other? i think there is a huge release of that to happen via the stores on talk to how does era in 5432 more upfront takes on the big issue. this isn't a one off just talking about a systemic issue here. black labs don't really matter, and the police were unflinching questions is war with lawanda,

imminent rigorous debate? people are dying because of lots of medical treatments, challenging conventional with the fact that people are starting to get angry about this is in itself a sign of progress. join me more for me on hills upfront one out 0. holding the powerful to account as we examine the us as role in the was on o g 0 on the face, ground bottles, and then north and south of garza. these riley army says it has surround the goal is to 16 the periods, austin, this is out of wedlock from tow set or 3 g can. so you and run schools and residential neighborhoods in gaza. continue to be bombarded bobby's really ministry

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