us mentioning that this area has been bombarded several times since the beginning of this fighting. now. it's where it's also essential to astray that the nation hospital is the only vital hospital even most of the goals, restrict what you provides treatments and even medical services for thousands of palestinians who are as only thing of the notes with the gaza strip. now this hospital is overwhelmed with residents who were evacuated and displaced from the houses, even most of which are treat. now the ongoing is mainly rates and the surrounding areas aimed to intimidate residents in order to be back to wait. so the southern areas of the golf district. meanwhile, every single coolant in the territory has been the ball. just even with the running blow and with the run out of fuel, i people come not really a foot fuel to operate the vehicles in order to hit south to the southern areas of gauze, a strip as the is really relentless, that tax also keep bothering every single vehicle that uh try to cross and to pass through uh from the uh, northern areas to the southern areas of gauze. the,

the indonesian hospital is one that was still running the park. what can you tell us about, 1st of all, what do you know about the damage that was just done to this hospital? what do you know about casualties and injuries? and i understand this is that a very early stage. so if you don't have that information, we're not speculating, obviously we're just trying to get as much information as we can about that attack to yes, the attacks in the surrounding areas of the innovation hospital let to partial damage of some of the departments of the hospitals as some main departments have become really this a partially damaged and i think that from the is very it really does attacks. also it's worth mentioning dots that the majority of attacks and the most of the gaza strip had the majority of indian people are receiving the treatments in the uh, engineering hospital. so the best not to the, the massages that took place in july,

the receipt to count. the number of, of people who have been killed have been transferred to the innovation hospitals and even the wounded people are receiving a treatment by medical team stuff. meanwhile, this hospital is running low on fuel and there are depending now in mine, it didn't, rates is the operating only the main departments inside this hospital, which seems that there's going to be much more pressure on the medical teams in order to keep providing medical services for the, for the ongoing victims and wounded people hopefully from time to another, due to the is barely a tex tarik. tell us about the tax on the other hospitals today because those include an attack on the largest hospital in the gaza strip. i'll shift the hospital, so there's over you slowly. each of the hospitals in the goal is a strip becoming a key target for the is really occupational forces. it must be protected by the principles of international mobile. meanwhile, medical teams and feelings, vehicles of drivers, and every single medical worker is considered to be legal targets. 40 is with the

patient as those is all i'm to is vehicles have been completely destroyed by the occupation rates did just before a couple of hours. the gates of the duration of the ship, a hospital has been bombarded by the occupation forces. an empty lands. uh, i'm curious vehicles where preparing to carry victims and to carry injured people to these other areas of the gall, this trip, tbs and other ad throughout trop. what's included disabilities. 5, as the promising administered health is that you said they were bombarded as they were leaving the gates of the hospital. now it's worth mentioning that the surrounding areas, the hospital, he's very crowded, included with people. it's much more larger than the number of people that are not right now and, and must have hospital. it's a and this number. and this number of people also is, is making the they just told like it's in a much more search and much more increased in terms of the number of victims for those of palestinians have been killed. that due to this attack, doses of enzymes,

vehicles were completely, unfortunately destroyed by this the strike. so there was a engine, people have been, according to the policy minister pills are supposed to be delivered, the director of course in order to receive treatment. the as the is where the attacks also destroyed and even at tools. and it's all like, you know, we heard from the director about shift the hospital a little earlier about 20 minutes ago mohammed a boost. tell me a he was explaining that they have the largest number of baby incubators. they have the largest intensive care unit a. yet their mortgage is full of dead bodies and another element of context. this was not the director of saying this, but the way that we've heard from your reporting and also you'll know who's in the city that the what little medical aid has reached the gaza strip in the last few days. most of it is not going to the north, so it just all of this pates the bleakest of pictures for those hospitals that are still running in the gaza strip, especially those and then, oh yes, uh,

to be uh clear the situation um it should initially the hospital is really critical, it has reached on presented levels that could not be come back with the previous around the find things that have interrupted that we'd palestinian fighters on the east where the occupation forces didn't bodies or every single coolness of the ship a hospital move does it the more just become full of victims and now the ice cream trucks happening tend to be as a satellite. so you place an order to store did bodies still the next morning to be made to fuse up. and it's also important to mention that limited number of medical can boys and mid, mid to come aids had been delivered to our ship a hospital main while there is no much calling to all medical ladies deliver to the north of the gall. this trip the main course increasing was in the southern areas of the gaza strip, including a mazda of hospital and other hospitals and brooklyn district as well. so uh the uh, the medical teams that are trying to operate on different kinds of surgeries and

even uh, uh, amputation process without using any kind of open codes or sometimes uh 1st to do that on the flu. and uh, as they are really running low in terms of medical supplies, that even be the quantity on the quantity of medical supplies that have been delivered to ship a hospital is still limited on i'm not really match the, the needs of the ship a hospital due to the surgeon, number of wounded people as well. so the main concentration right now is that the issue of a hospital is running low and medical supplies and they are consuming the already existing medical supplies that were afford this before direction of this well defined thing. sorry, we talked about the indonesian hospital, we talked about l shift, the hospital, those 2 hospitals are in the north. and israel continues to say the is really military continues to tell gardens we live in the north of the strip to move down to the south as they've been saying for quite a while now. but equally what we've seen is that it hasn't been safe for many of the palestinians who have tried to heave that warning and tried to move south

because there has been attacks. whether it's the attacks on the um, on the coastal road. uh, the rashid road which is one of the main north to south axis and gaza for that medical convoy that was moving. i'll shift. so the, the question i, i'm asking you is, at the moment, and this is something you and i have talked about before as the moment how to palestinians know where and when it is safe fist, not safe, but say fist for them to leave the north and go towards the south of the street. well, the movement between districts inventory retreat is really hard by the way, and so dangerous in terms of the level of safety that come by. it can be a fluids it. now the people in the northern areas of the gaza strip now they have been trapped in the area. they are not no longer a baby. be able to leave the northern that central areas of the church, read you to the east, very military extension of the military operations on the ground. and to let you

know more about that. did these details in terms of the process of movement from the northern areas to the southern areas that they've gone this term? now we have 2 main important roads into to our 3. i rush, you drove down to the head. you wrote that i received considered to be the coast a rose until the head dean is one of the main central longest the streets that connect the northern areas with the southern areas of the 2 or 3. now, the most streets have been, have been controlled by these very uh, occupation, a ground troops who are stationed in different sides of that street, of both streets, and specifically in the rescue to 3. just as we gladly see earlier this morning to be seen on the foot of the, the videos of the did funny that we're laying in every single corner of the receipt a street that to be is really minutes returned to our hauling thing behind buildings. and even the novel is body forces are the only thing, different yourselves up to every single target of every single vehicle that is moving from the northern areas to the southern areas of the church resort. it will be hard for people to feel safe in terms of the process of delivery or from the

northern areas to the southerners. and also main while the, the people that are running low on fuel. we are talking about more than 3 weeks of fighting between power, steering appliances on the east with a few patient forces. so they don't have to, even if you want to upgrade the vehicles in order to get access to leads as an easy way to also relinquish the tax continue. so the conditions that as young compressed, really suffering, do you have reached unprecedented be true ration in terms of human hearing conditions. there are a couple assume thank you very much for your reporting. it is just after $1600.00 gmc, so 6 pm local, where you are in the south of the gaza, strip it for him, for a how to still with us. it for him. are 3 attacks on 3 different hospitals today, including we were just talking about an attack that hit near the indonesian hospital that's in the north of the gaza strip. one that the health ministry spokes person was detailing a little earlier on about a medical con boy leaving the largest hospital in gaza. that's al schiffer. that

was apparently clearly identified, including the time which would lead to bring critically wounded patients from al shift to be treated abroad out of the gaza strip. and that was that convoy was struck with an untold number of people killed as we speak. i'm, as we look at those developments, i'm reminded of what the us secretary of state said a few hours ago, which is that israel has a right to defend itself, but the way how it does so matters. those were his words, how he does so matters, and blinking says that he's trying to impress upon the israelis that they have to minimize civilian casualties on the same day that he's, they're saying that they've attacked at least 3 hospitals. i mean, it doesn't seem that they're listening to him. well let's, i give you a festival that with this, of the developments happening to the, this leaves no big deal with it and no questions that these escalations on

these websites are deliberate. we sold up, but those laying on the ground the she does the, it's just people walking in the seats. but so it's not like a 1000000 of how mass leader is hiding in a compound or somebody gets people to walk around the speeds. and but these are playing go over the she just eats and the music help homeboy as well. and then by the way, this is a bodies of people who were trying to listen to what these realize were telling them, go from the north and go to the south. and they are taking one of those 2 main roads that, that can bring them to the south. exactly. and on top of that, the amazing host without that has been attacked for the past week. so if i'm so with these, the developments this leaves us with no option, but to be of that, this is zillow, but, and linking this to lincoln's pressure on this could be actually believed these developments out of this deliberate escalation is that message to blink. and that is why it is luck listening and is a will continue to do what it,

what it wants to do without any kid about what you're saying, what i'm thinking said, go with the by the decision, say, so this is because this happening the same day of this is happening, just swipe after the blinking is a given, has message to to that as well as i'm probably also the private, the pressure on that to be an exemption. but aside from the us, i've misplaced so isn't i am is on that. i'm page is i'm a, is a deliberate place can i think probably get think every human being in java and this is going to put the us and ministration in a much, much more difficult position. so try to support or to justify the escalations and what is i is doing and, and does. and this requires the most of most mission is to take a position now before the model because obviously is what it is not listening and is what it's doing. you know, what they want to do instead of in by retaliation is living by this function of guys that is driven by a total demolition of everything. and does

a house is, i mean probably you think people and all that trouble and anyone who from the public to make it especially wisdom, what does that make us? who will to let a, it's this kind of behavior is complicit and is not, is not the only thing that is not. and that's because, because with all these a clear messages, you cannot hide behind these vague statements about a while, i think, by international law or by what, by then what saying is securing a private, a suspicion, a safe passage for food. and for me, this and those, the people in guns need this man, this is why you the madness of bombing to stop. they don't need to, to, to eat, to who to give them food. they need this fit as well as the stop. and they said, recitation, come up, continue to be in this conflicting position with this uh,

with this products over trying to provide things they, the provide think as a, with the american mid bombs to bomb goods and the same time, give them food. you cannot give a bomb and the food at the same time. you're gonna stop the bottom of the board before you talk about if you do it. that's really interesting because this been in this paradox at the center of, of how the us and israel are handling this whole got the situation which was bomb it. but under us pressure and advice also allow in some of the food that's something we definitely need to will keep that for a little later. that because it's something we need to to discuss. abraham, thank you very much. thank you. now we were talking about the us extra state, anthony blinking because he arrived in israel on friday on a diplomatic tour. he says that he's spoken to is really leaders about taking concrete steps. remember what we're just saying. concrete steps to minimize the palestinian civilian death toll. so he met with prime minister benjamin netanyahu and with presidents isaac hertzog, in tennessee. we provided is really advice,

the only the best of friends can offer on how to minimize civilian deaths while still achieving its objectives of finding and finishing him off terrace and their infrastructure of violence. today i spoke with prime minister netanyahu and other senior officials about concrete steps to do that. president biden has consistently stressed the need for his role to operate according to international humanitarian law. i also have the size that the protection civilians must take place. not just in gaza, but also in the west bank where incitement and extremities, violence against palestinians must be stopped, and perpetrators held accountable. a 3rd, we need to substantially and immediately increase the sustain slowly monitoring assistance in the gaza and getting american citizens and other farm nationals out of guys. we believe that each of these efforts would be facilitated by you many train pauses by arrangements on the ground to increase security for civilians and

permit the more effective and sustained delivery the amount of training assistance . allen fisher isn't occupied east jerusalem allen. this was lincoln's 3rd visit to israel. since the start of this conflict, we're in day 28th of the conflict. look, i was taking notes throughout the whole speech. and there were a lot of big picture ideas, not many details among the big picture ideas for support for israel, but minimize the palestinians of is a policy and sufficient civilian beg, your pardon, civilian casualties, increase the aid to gaza and work towards the 2 state solution you also address who might be in gaza if and when this conflict ends. he's saying it's going to have to be not a mouse, not israel, but we don't know who else it might be. so again, the point i was hoping that you could kind of elaborate on is big picture ideas, but publicly, at least not a whole lot of details. and he's don't color again between the lines. is he struggling to articulate exactly what the concrete measures would be

if, if the idea that he was really pushing was this suggestion of to mandatory and pauses to load beat in until i some captives and for nationals and the injured out. and what the israelis have said from benjamin netanyahu, his own words, immediately after, as we continue to go to force the idea of humanitarian pauses until they blinked and linked to the idea of the captive as being free. we said, but how, when, and where we do that still has to be one time. so it seems that he may have an idea, but these really have the idea of how did this war is to be most acute it, no matter what the united states says, they're going to push ahead the problem, the answer, the blinking eyes. he's aware of going criticism internationally, believing that the united states could do more to rein israel, and he's also aware of the going criticism. back in the united states. the job i should be more forceful with israel. i'm trying to reduce the number of casualties

and the number of days which is growing every of okay. so what more can you tell us or explain about how is real is receiving this specifically is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu because i mean, he does say that he appreciates the support so many levels of us support but also seems not to heed much of their advice if someone is described on social media as the passenger get speed, seeing what it less than 2 years i, i mean, there may be an element of that. well, benjamin netanyahu said is very clear. no humanitarian pauses until they stop releasing captives. we're going to continue prosecuting the war at full force, which suggests that if the, our civilian casualties, it's not something that is real says they would argue not deliberately seeking, but they're not going to take extra steps to minimize what they're doing. and so

all of the things that until they blink and wanted to get from these release, he is essentially failed. and he's heading now to a mind where he's going to speak to out of leaders, including king of villa. and they will be putting pressure on him to try and stop the war is what do you mean for administer said several hours ago that his message to add to the blinking will be get them to stop the war. and so he is faced with a very difficult situation of trying to support as early as much as possible, but realizing that a lot of the things you wants to see come about why entirely and the gift of the say the government. and at the moment they have a plan for the war and the not changing it for anyone else. a 0 is ellen fisher reporting there on the the visit of us secretary of state anthony blinking to israel today. thank you very much. alan. a. mr. royal has hit the entrance of the else just the hospital killing at least 15 palestinians with many others injured.

and the 2nd is really strike then targeted a convoy of ambulances carrying the wounded from. i'll shift the hospital towards the rough crossing match. gilbert's is a doctor who has worked in gaza and he's in close contact with colleagues there. he joins us from cairo. first of all, what can you share with us about what your colleagues and guards are telling you at the moment, sir? telling me that the attack happened that 5. 05 gosh. what time it was. uh uh i called boy you of ambulances going to evacuate more one did from she from down south to the phone. they have tried to coordinate with, i see or see. but the i c r a c. i scored todd not com. so this comb or left a sheet for hospital when they were attacked. that's 3 different points. at the gate where the videos we ever seen are from and then 200 meters from the gate, a lot, boston street. and then further 500 meters from the gate. and the on started around

about, i know the space as well as so there were 3 different attacks on the chromeboys. and as you said, 15 killed, we don't know the number of wounded nor do we precisely know the number of killed and this happens. and after these really army has been strengthening the hospitals for 2 weeks, the to start to empty the hospitals, and when they do it, they are being bombed under way out to another state say price. so this is another part of the end of this, like all of the time as, as a, as a doctor. and as somebody who has worked in gaza and if i'm not mistaken correctly if i'm mistaken. but i believe this is accurate. you worked in gaza during one of the gaza israel wars and given all of that and that experience, can you speak to or of yours about this notion of leaving a hospital,

right. we're talking about medical facilities in which there are thousands of patients from babies and incubators to possibly cancer patients, intensive care unit patients. and obviously the many, many, many patients who have come in as a result of the injuries through the bombardments, can you speak to this notion of emptying a hospital, which is what israel has been telling the hospitals in the northern gaza strip to do oh yeah, you right, i have worked in uh, ship a hospital during the is really a text in 2006, 2009 to 2012 and 2014. so i can say i have quite the experience and i've been in college voice going from she for the older alpha to go to egypt with that. and i have experienced that despite being coordinated with international cross and having s cord cars in from the back, we were shocked that and we had to return to it said,

but it's scary experience to have the responsibility of a patient may be intubated, may be on ventilator, severely wounded, and you go there and you feel points might get and your whole site. do you really about the international decency and regulations when protects do not so when does i know? so with policy number, this is what we see today. we've seen many times that the show and the un have document in more than a 100 attacks on healthcare facilities. during the last 3 weeks. this has been the last 11 long lines of the really big screen. we see nicole, i'm going to go a text by these ran the army on patients on health person i don't on i'm says and on hospital and i have to say if it is true, as i have reported on now from what i heard from god. so that they were treated these things that tax id messed up being

a targeted attack on the ambulances. so why should the follows the nose ever trust they run? these really are saying lead dos because you can be saved in this all, this is hardly both on ways so far. haven't read 1415 kills and again multiply that with 3. and then you have the number one day, but i'm, i've chairs that the number so kids will race. and these are people who are more did, they can more, they would not let us come on mister binding. mister by mister blink. again, this is your responsibility. you've packed into blackboard, this really is for 3 weeks and said go on, go on. and i hope mister blinking now was stopping with his lip service. oh, we care for the for the civilians. these 2 must be the final straw that breaks the camel's back. and not be sent up now. mr. renkins mistake. yeah. but man is, i don't know if this is something that came up in your conversations with your colleagues who are presently in gaza. but is there a to your knowledge? is there a way for them?

is there a line of communication with these really use to say we're moving a convoy out of the hospital. we are doing what you want. we are getting are injured out of the area. don't bomb us when you see a convoy of cars leaving the hospital at this hour when it looks roughly like this, etc. absolutely, you were there with me, right. there are quite sophisticated communication channels, not only here in this occupation, but in any of our confrontational will. that on actually very delicate communication and traditions and rules, you can in form by ad the i c r c to the in the name that we will have a medical transport from their to their, of that given time. the other part i can then either say yes, we hear you or, and they can say confirm a team. we will not attack it. so you don't mind hearing what do you infer from that then? because it would be based on what you're telling me, reasonable to believe that the i'll shift the staff use that line of communication

to say. and in fact, the, the guns that health industry, spokes person pretty much confirmed that saying the convoy was leaving, edit, determine, time, they would use that line of communication, i would assume to say we're leaving at that time. don't hit us, right? i absolutely am. i'm from the information i got right now from the doctors in the field. they said that there was like comedy cation with the already started. i, c, r c, the international, red cross. there was an information going to the other side about this complaint. if that proves true, we have uh, we have a very short example that these ambulances where they were opposite by these really aren't me in a coordinated attack. see thing 3 different points of the ambulance calling boy, which shouldn't be protected. i'm, let's go to the south which for international protection i,

i don't see any end to the violations of the geneva convention that is taking place and got out. i see no end to the brutality of these attacks. i don't forget that even ship ah, there is current li, 50000, internally displaced civilians. and when you see the videos from the gates of people, you see how many civilians are. i mean, not patients typically else are being one of these and run around. i see some of my medical students trying to help it is horrible, but your question is very precise. if this was coordinated, these relays would know the time and the science of the college. yeah. mass gilbert . thank you very much for that explanation. and for that perspective, i think it's invaluable. and i want to just recap that it's 1613 gmc, so it's uh, 6 30 pm local time and mazda. i'll let you go. thank you so much for your time

today. by the way. we really appreciate you coming on the show to explain that and, and i'm going to bring in abraham for a half because this is something we need to talk about as well. um, your associate professor of conflict resolution. and so matt's was telling us, and i think not all of our viewers will notice there is a way, and it's pretty easy because it's a stablish thing. we're in this 5th is real guys award. there is a line of communication between places like hospitals and these relays and the hospitals essentially can pick up the phone and say, we're leaving with the injured we're leaving with civilians. this is not a military target. we're leaving at this place. we're leaving at this time, do not hit us, so you would assume that that message was put out to the is released. we're not reporting this fact, but now it was explaining that's how it usually works. and. and yet, in the case of the shift, the hospital, we're seeing a con boy of civilians, of people who are critically injured,

be targeted. it seems deliberately targeted just as they were leaving a hospital. what do we, what do we make up that on the day the blinking is saying we're giving advice. the quote is we provided advice to the israelis on how to minimize civilian deaths. i do not thank you for this, but they do not think that they should is logistical is how to communicate or how to like. for example, we can build the hub line, we can, where you can, you know, deliver messages and add, you know, coordinated these things. but the issue is not, look, it's not logistic. the issue is political. the issue is the vision of as why and how it's conducting this war and how it's managing this war. it seems to me, it seems to me that there is a much bigger thing, vision within as low as you know, the with the running this war, which is basically the mass explosion of the policy unions from the,

from guys. because this isn't where as it or from northern garza as well, it's from jobs have to begin was, which is we are we stopped at seeing motor pressure on, on cc to open the borders with the, with sign i. so for the policy is the world. so and why that's why we are seeing these very clear messages, like bombing, i mean, the chemical boy or people are walking in the streets to, to send the message that no one would it be safe with tom. good, think everyone, why the point is that kind of push out on sees is to open the both of those with the sinai. so when ever they are able to secure such kind of an agreement so everyone can leave. i follow that logic, it would be initials, interest to let them leave. right. if the point is to move godson's out exec. exactly. well, that's what they're not letting many lead since those convoys that are heading south or some of them are being attacked. well, that's why what makes us believe that that is why you, the intention is not for them to move solace,

but to move outside goes on toward sign because most who are moving to the south and listening to that is why you the instructions of going for this out very in thought to get that. but so that's why i mean, we can take this, i don't know what it is, not just the ones i would probably give it the ones when you called for people to go to a specific area. this is an international conflict is going, i saves all that and save zone should not be fudged, but as late as the not stop bombing the south number from the 100 units and the hospitalization, the other 8 is in the south. so this is not for saves all, this is not for people to go. the most you be get a message is for everyone is believed. garza is the mass exposure, is a new neck about this has, has been said and communicated by the funds by many is laid over. shields. is that a, is that, that they want to get you to and then federal government, not just come out. it says that everyone is, i'm, is another mass exposure. and especially if we go back to the political statements

made specially the best to the is enormous pressure on the junction leadership is to open the borders and even by then saying, we do not support appear to minute leave of the same uniform does a, but that temporary, but nobody does, by the way, the egyptian president says, i, we, we don't want is that just placing the population to jordanians, by the way, on the other side of the country and the west bank have said the same thing. bite and said that you're essentially telling us that the official message, the is really notorious sending is go from the north to the south. but the real method you're sending us sending palestinians with bombs is just leave. let's just leave full stop. ok, if for him, we're going to take a very short break. we'll come right back to you after this. still ahead on alice's 0. after an escalation on the is really lebanese border, the leader of his, the last on the smaller breaks his silence on the war in gods. and we'll have more on that after the

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will come back, you're watching over 0 reminder of our headlines and is really missed. all right, let's hit the entrance of guns as i'll shift the hospital killing at least 15 palestinians with many others injured. the 2nd is really strength, then targeted a convoy of ambulances carrying the wound in for a mouse at the hospital, towards the rough uh, crossing. and earlier and is really here, straight killed, at least 14 palestinian civilians were trying to flee israel's compartment to massacre to place along the outer sheet highway in gaza. which one from the north of the strip to the south. all of this coming as us secretary of state anthony blinking makes his 4th visit to israel since the war began. he is urging for the protection of palestinians and for israel to follow international law. so the indonesian hospital in gaza was also bomb. and before the attack, we spoke to fix, we were fuel hot, who works as a volunteer there. and he says the conditions have been desperate with little electricity and fuel and the bodies of victims continue to pilot

a highly me pull him down as a lead my mind up, dozens of buddies of feeling the morgans indonesia hospital, they were placed on the sidewalk on the front of the month waiting to be taken by family members. so they could debated immediately or be helped. a lot of the are going to be says in the morning, the bodies are taken out in the evening. it is filled again with people that during the day, 6 smoking covers the indonesian hospital ambulances are deployed morning afternoon and night, tirelessly evacuating victims from under the rubble to indonesia, hospitalized to genetic to school. but the one was damaged and driven onto a fuel. so we are reducing electricity to save fuel, those, prioritizing it for the emergency room, but the hospitality is experiencing the fuel and medicine crisis. myself and to the volunteers from engineers. you decided not to use that to it because god willing we will continue to supply food and medicine optim does it as it does, i am joined by mucous capella. you're

a former emergency medical doctor for the world health organization and you are joining us from geneva. today there's been multiple attacks as we just reported on hospitals in the gaza strip. and israel has been telling those hospitals to evacuate. they want, whether it's the staff, the patients, the people who are using those hospitals as a refuge. they want everybody to leave and go to the south of the gaza strip. that's the official message. can you speak to the notion of evacuating an entire hospital and logistically, you know what the challenge that represents as i think it's possible to that good hospital. it's not under these circumstances where it down to not to the assets, to transport patients and that there is, and of course some of the patients, uh, it'd be hospitals are extremely sick and connected to various a machines and parts and tubes. of course they are being the targeted along the way

to safety. so under the circumstances, i think good is there a good warnings to to is that good? not just baffling. the dog down, right? i've seen because they have no meaning. either you provide the main street back, correct, which means bringing property equipped with inches down safe corridors. i'm give time for the back patients. all. quite honestly, these are kind of wanting just to be spending more panic. so they are completely acting in human as all one can say, what would an evacuation in a realistic evacuation of those hospitals look like? and what would it entail? you understand why i'm asking you the question. right? because israel wants them to leave, but the bombardments are continuing. we're just trying to frame what would need to happen for israel to get what it publicly says it wants,

which is to empty these hospitals. a when it to the is that the do window who monitoring balls i put as has been called for it to get a talk to me. it shows that, you know, you're not ready. it's not allowed in. you don't have to be nice. well, it doesn't mean there's a lot really water t c and then then the oxygen needs to be attendance. and then the logic all the way to the safe storms off the outside. and that basically how can you please it? so it did tell you promptly back to the hospital for several 100000 people, or thousands of people told me one gold. this'll take at least 2 or 3 days o. s was under the ideal circumstances of not being good trying to be boned did any

moment and it would need the equipment supplies that are needed to be people are lot sick. people are alive, egypt people alive as your transported right down your right. you might get in front of you, so all that it was organization, planning and preparation. so it can be done instantly and the above just wondering when your head how much of this can be done without fuel? because israel's not letting any fuel into the gaza strip, half the hospitals are now no longer operational. and those that are say they are extremely low and fuel at this point. so that's what, that's why i'm saying that there is no hope a pressing, usually open and it is open just some age coming in and some people are leaving and some injured also. and hopefully, leaving them why not like a flight of ambulances, a flight to great those. i mean all the way up to be supposed to be substituting. i

know the hospitals and veterans big long because my entire tree to pick up these patients and take them out. i don't think it should be lot to be on the a fuse and assets gonna kind of lead me to these hospitals because i don't think that it not. and many of them actually had no pets. and also they would like to be targeted because these really have been watching them, but people coming from outside and what do you get create that is just possible that they would be not subjected to forming, especially, you know, this is a very open eyes welfare in the densest popularity spot, so not the one with the all the core. in addition, you can think of, imagine the error in terms of be conflicting a target is very, very, very small. so even if you're not pocketing, it's a very fine market as to whether or not some good, unfortunate, the somewhat gets in the way or more, especially, you know,

in the middle of more communications on both sides, can be and promises. certainly there's a form of confusion everywhere. so whether or not these are targeted people, the debate, but honestly, the line will be back to should what happens from inside dos is no longer vibe, but if people are really interested in saving these patients. but there's another thing that, that i think is that quick does need to come in from outside to the board and crossing industrial, egypt to israel, and on the other. she agreed to under you on the, on the cross to hook, i'm and send him a slate offload. i'm given says i do need to be specific evidence is either under take as many as a gun an out and come besides it as a, as an operation. i've seen this been done elsewhere. i've seen this being done in the upcoming soon. i've seen this thing done in the, in this side, a year ago when i was myself involved as a british, going to push any reporting,

a people from the hospitals on boardman to get them out of the country. to be tricky. don't say it's been done and so it is possible for the kind of the branch that to the missing, you know, is written ones. and then it's up to the hospital authorities, the workers and whatever drug, some concept it may have. and what else do you have to put whatever patients that can with whatever loss again or no or so what are we to have with them? and then hopefully the best will be found in the way. i mean, this is the old crew. yeah, this is some business sadistic it look. that's one of the questions that certainly we've been asking in the last few hours. it's about this discrepancy between israel stated aim of wanting to see people leave the north city centers garza city, but also the hospitals. and yet not appearing to give them any kind of

a window or room or moment of time in which to do it. lucas could be that you're a former world health organization, emergency medical doctor. we thank you for your perspective today. thank you. now we want to talk about what was happening and 11 known as well on friday because the leader of hezbollah, son, this rolla has spoken for the 1st time since the start of the war in gauze. as well as said that the impact of this war will not be like previous conflicts, and it will prove to be a decisive battle. the at the last seduce is a, it's caused a seismic shake and asked to quake in terms of security, military politics, diplomatic. even psychological, it has very low profound, distract cedric existence and the repercussions the and this, what's taking place in gas as 3 today proves this to p

d t and hmo inputs and see one of the is a has to be less via are thinking, getting mine because it, bailey and palestinians in guys the most of those kids are women on send the, the majority of the victims of civilians and massages. alhashan is in the core in southern lebanon. the you and i, yesterday were talking about what ms rela might say, you told me he's going to set some clear red lines. what are the red lines to the long awaited the speech via has will last, if you have to read general how some of the law was meant. clearly a setting clear the red lines and also at some vague red lines, the clear blue red lines means use the form of a mouse in because this was clear with him saying that the,

this is not going to be allowed, then whatever is going to happen. this is going to be a kind of a red line also with, with respect to the original conflict, he was for the thing, the united states in front of its responsibilities. as you say, that if you don't want to see a regional conflict erupting, then you have to stop is really, besides getting into the live in these front and drawing once again and equation. whereas i live in a civilian if, if they've been a civilian this go then has was going to retaliate on hitting a civilians and it's not. the speech was received in different ways. it was on one side upsetting to those who are expecting a fellow to go on and now it's an all out for one. it was a bit through leaving for those who were concerned with the fact that the fall i could take the button into

a war. and this is the kind of the gap between people. i mean, the, the, the public opinion he had ended up and actually uses is divided over the, the war and has one laws upon dissipation. that is, the fellow was clear, not saying that we are not particularly adding that we are going to this war. we are already in this war since the 8th of october has will isn't this one? so what was a secret to the general tended to be a giving it kind of like calculated and big with the and this is meant on the sending kind of messages that so i'm not clear may be bought at least for this really isn't for hezbollah may be the means of communication has been over the past . he is 3 of whenever he is kind of mines in his words. yeah. calculated ambiguity . you're, you're not the 1st person to describe his speech that way. um to us today. uh the hush i'm reporting from southern lebanon, thank you so much for that. i went to return to gauze where and is really miss

sila has hit the entrance of gauze as i'll shift the hospital killing at least 15 palestinians with many others injured. a 2nd is really striked, then targeted a convoy of ambulances carrying the wounded from i'll shift the hospital towards the roof of crossing. now remember, i'll shift size the main, the largest hospital in gaza. so multiple hospitals struck in garza today. let's talk to l. u and us and then code you are a spokeswoman for the international committee of the red cross. you're joining us from occupied east jerusalem. first of all, what do you know about these attacks because we're still trying to establish facts on the ground starting with al schiffer. well, it is also very difficult for us to know exactly what happened just so like you. i imagine we sold the images, the images that are extremely critique that are difficult to watch. uh and uh you

do. so we are shocked and heart broken to see these images because these are the paramedics from our organization posting and red christmas society. and they work every single day to save lives. and they just must know facilities at the cost of their own lives. the indonesian hospital was also struck unclear at the stage, it appears that it was a target near the hospital that was targeted again. difficult to establish very precisely do you have specific facts that you can bring to bear on that situation as well as opposed to just ongoing is moving safely in the most of the guys are, is extremely difficult. and also with the telephone lines that are up until the time we're trying to stay in touch with the house stop from different hospital. but it's also very difficult. my colleagues, they have been trying for days and days to contact some of the hospitals in the

normal. and this is of course, a very big problem, peanuts. so that's even getting the accurate facts and information about what's happening there. it is very difficult and we just continue uh, 4013 parties to do everything that they can to ensure the respect and protection of medical facilities to your knowledge. do those hospitals have the ability to communicate? we were talking about this with a previous guest to communicate with israel because the reason i ask the question is there was a convoy that left out shift with critically wounded people who were going to be taking abroad 1st to egypt to be treated. and the spokes person for the gaza health ministry said that convoy was clearly identified and it was leaving at a given time doing so. so the question is to your knowledge, are they able and do they, the hospitals communicate with israel on movements of wounded patients?

well, i've come to speak about all the communications that are taking place. so what i can say is on behalf of our organization international creature, the of the red cross we are talking to the party's vision again to respect each national for each having more. and what they normally the hospitals are identified and they do the parties, they should have the exec gps lakisha for the mexico facilities for critical infrastructure. and also for us as a neutral act as a neutral to any type of organization. this is a role to facilitate these communication. and we, we are talking 2 parties to trying to provide these to many tablets phase so that we don't see the try typical supplies. but unfortunately, we're seeing every day but israel wants people to leave the north and wants people to leave hospitals. this is a simple question,

but do you think the palestinians were currently at now schiffer or the indonesian hospital should be leaving those places? it is a choice of every single, every civilian whether they should leave, whether they one to leave and every person decides for themselves if you choose to, which will see that it is extremely difficult to do, but to wait. because because you have babies and the inconveniences, you have people live supports people, course you if you want it to r c. o can see simply cannot to. so in the car and conditions moving an entire hospital isn't even crazy. incredibly difficult enterprise. no, absolutely listen. thank you very much elliana for joining us on the program. you are the spokeswoman for the international committee of the red cross and you're speaking to us from occupied east jerusalem. we appreciate your time. i as we mentioned earlier,

the number of palestinians killed in gauze in the past 28 days has risen to 9227. that's according to the palestinian health industry. and to put things in perspective, we've compared numbers from nearly 4 weeks of war on garza to almost 2 years of war on ukraine, where we challenge explains so how does the blood shed of this conflicts compact to others? well, that's have a look at another major conflict going on at the moment. the war. can you cry? now? in a 563 days from the russian invasion last february to september, the 10th this year, more than 9 and a half 1000 civilians were killed and 17 and a half 1000 injured of the dead. more than 500 children. now let's have a look at israel's war on gaza and the $26.00 days from the operation start to november. the 2nd, at least 9000 palestinians have been killed and 32000 injured a figure that is coming up as we speak of the dead. maybe 4000 our children. that's

given the nature of active. what was that means it's not always easy to verify exact numbers. we also don't know the number of palestinian fights is being counted in the cause of death toll. you craning gauze at all different was between different types of pricing forces in very different environments, and we thought of the future trajectory of either of them caveats assign. the reality is clear is rails a sold on casa, has a very quickly killed and injured a huge number of civilians and a particularly large number of children. why? well, the short on so is garza is tiny, it's densely populated, is right, is hitting it with extraordinary fired power in just the 1st 6 days. he's real dropped 6000 booms amounting to 4000 tons. today's israel says it's hit $12000.00 targets. what is it talk at the well, could be

a fight to the suspect to cause a rocket launcher, a tunnel for a building. these radio only things might be on top of a tunnel. these right, the army says if not targeting civilians, but it's also not holding back. if it think slices might be in no, i'm the passivity in building be that a school, a hospital, a bakery or homes, the attack on ship body a refugee come makes this clear. that is an incidence. the un human rights office is concerned, could be a war crime is rory challenges there. that was palestinians face conflict at home. hundreds of thousands of people are taking part in solidarity rallies and several cities around the world. demonstrations have been taking place in rio de janeiro and yemen. jordan gone to more pro palestinian protests or expected later on friday in iraq and in libya. now we're going to be taking a very short break. but before we do that and before we reset and give you

a full slate of world news and our continuing coverage on these really gaus award, the very top the hour, i want to remind you of the things we're looking at this hour. essentially 3 things . there is of course what's happening in gaza with just in the last few hours, a number of attacks direct or indirect, on hospitals. so the indonesian hospital in the north of the gaza strip was damaged, sustained damage after an attack that hit near the hospital, the i'll shift the hospital also attacked when a con boy of severely wounded patients that was going to be taken abroad was struck just as it was leaving the hospital, dozens of palestinians were killed. that's what's happening on the ground in the gaza strip diplomatically anthony blinking the us secretary of state is an israel met with the prime minister in the president. he's calling on the is released to minimize the number of palestinian desks that doesn't appear to be what we're seeing and gaza and the leader of hezbollah hoss on this role that also spoke in

lebanon. something which we will continue to debrief at the top of the hour to stay with us on the as the war on gaza escalated out, his ears correspondence on the ground last night with a knife from health complete blackouts. bits all situations are very, very wave here due to have the air strikes in the area as well. troops now are trying to push forward deep into the gods trick. 11 soldiers have been confirmed as killed during that time devalue are considered to be one of the most densely populated refugee camps in this neighborhood has been completely destroyed. stay with us for the latest developments on. i'll just era, business latex to be sponsored by interlock tuck. he's real estate consultant.

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but we want to know how do these things affect people? we revisit please stay, even when there are no international houses, there are really invest in that. and that's a privilege as a drug of the know aerospace is really strikes target at least 3 hospitals in the gaza strip the bubble. i'm several then. yeah. and it's good to have you with us. this is the news our lives from doha. coming up in the program, this, our more is really strikes kill civilians trying to flee the violence in northern gaza. at least 14 people, including children that were killed. the protection civilians must take place.