i'll just do the one to blow by the perspectives, the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and 0 of any age group to have you with us. this is the news our lives from doha. coming up in the program. this our nowhere is safe is really strikes targets . at least 3 hospitals in the gaza strip. more is really strikes kill civilians trying to flee the violation north in the gaza. at least 14 people including

children. protective civilians plus take place. not just engagement, but also in the west bank where incitement and extremities, violence against palestinians must be stopped. the latest attacks came despite us secretary of state anthony blankets saying that war needs to be done to palestinian civilians. this during his latest visit israel, the tortured and storm, is really authorities send back thousands of palestinian workers from gaza. the at the leader of his ballade breaks his silence on the war and gauze us on the smallest thing that israel is pursuing. goals that cannot achieve the it is a team gmc, that means it's 8 pm in gaza. where's really strikes? continue to target civilians. at least 3 hospitals in the strip had been hit, a warning to our viewers. some of the images we're about to show you are disturbing

masonry was hit the entrance of the l shift the hospital killing at least 15 palestinians with many others injured. the 2nd is really stripe and targeted to a convoy of ambulances carrying the wounded from. i'll shift towards the roof of crossing for them to be treated abroad. there's also the we and have clear repaired hundreds of good. it takes only one didn't victims in these um buildings as a step to move them towards the software and then he came but his funds. and now there's also, as i was telling you, been an attack on the surrounding areas of the indonesian hospital that's in northern garza, it's main generators stopped working 2 days ago and the hospitalized sustained damage from this latest strike. earlier today on friday, it is really a sol killed at least 14 palestinian civilians who were trying to flee israel's war . the massacre taking place along the outer rashid highway and gaza. that's one of

the 2 main axes which runs from the north of the strip to the south. all of this comes as the us secretary of state anthony, blinking makes his 4th visit to israel since the war began. now he is urging for the protection of palestinians and for his real to follow international law. sorry, a couple of whom is live in han eunice in the southern part of the gaza strip. sorry, i want to talk to you in a little bit more detail about 2 of the more notable events and attacks in gaza today. let's start with what happened with that medical con boy that was leaving the largest hospital and got the city. i'll shift the hospital a yes, this medical con volume, which was leaving the and from the get use of the ship, a hospital. and it's was supposed to had to rough crossing the older to evacuate the critical things that people to receive treatment at the addiction hospitals. this medical boy has been targeted by these really minute treat drones by different

messiahs and those and the palestinians have to revolt a dangerous and even killed this uh, the surrounding areas of a ship, a hospital, this very densely populated area. as these come, this combine has been also critically destroyed by the occupation ongoing fires. it's worth mentioning that the palestinian minister of health has informed a own authorities and even the de uh, according to them, the option signs and even the depth of the bottle sitting ridgecrest for the departure of there was a impedances to tell what sort of our forcing meanwhile, they have been bombarded by the occupation. this is not considered to be the 1st attack, but it has been repeated before on multiple occasions when most fountain of vehicles have been from bonded by the is for the occupation forces. and so i had you roads and even on over c, d a no rush, you drove a. it's also worth mentioning that deuce of people must be protected by the principles of international law as the united nations. as the. busy us or you has

a to the protection of civilians by the is by the side or out carrying out the military attacks. meanwhile, this attack considered to be please violation or principles of international lo, and at the same time, the condition the has with this method that your ration is become much more raised to leave the hospital as even medical teams, medical keeps or must be protected, are being bombarded as well. tara q mentioned rashid road, so that is another one of the incidents that i want to talk to you about an hour sheet road is one of the 2 main axes that runs from the very top, the very north of gauze along the coast, all the way to down to the south. so for people wanting to heat, israel's warning that they need to leave the north and go south. that's one of the 2 main roads that they can take. the other is so like being we have seen pictures, we have these pictures and we've been showing them a body is strewn along a rashid road. what happens?

yes, it has expanded its millet trip ration in every single x. as in victor, a treat uh the gain control in a rush, you drove down to have a very main control over the movements of vehicles on that road disorder to send it to be the main vital role roads. with this thought i had the road which connects the uh, which connects this uh the, another in areas with the southern areas of the territory. uh the uh, the huge window patient has dropped a different at least lives in different areas in the north and central areas of the goddess trip, informing people that you wait until the display from the houses and to hit for to the 7 areas. some people had pulled up the oldest of these really a few patient and they use the receipt. throws it, go that to be back to wait to, to the southern areas. meanwhile, the web bombard is about throughout there, the process of the evacuation on a rescue drug. now it's worth mentioning that as well as controlling dis, roads and there, there is also one inputs of domain that you, everyone must understand is that there is a close to line um,

discussion note is fee of is ready. we will, shorts didn't well shortly. generally, what ships um the uh, the other side which is one of the labs is a full of is a military time switch up completely cupboards. rebuilding. so there is, i'm going is written buttons for every single car of vehicle that might move and even a pass through this arose. so people who have been a stick to the is really instruction to effectuate the houses have the more bought did their bodies have been late late on the ground? even a few minutes i just have touched from one of the of the drive is that we just a driver throw the did bodies and we cannot even get be able to stop them to take them to the hospital. so the situation that on that road is really successful because people are moving to be able to be evacuated throughout this road. and specifically with the ongoing running house in the queue. and so they will not be able to operate the vehicles. that is the very latest from inside the gaza topic up

with zoom. thank you for your reporting. more than 9200 palestinians have been killed since the war began on october, the 7th overcrowded hospitals and struggling to treat the wounded healthcare workers say that they need far more medicine and supplies. and what the trickle of a trucks coming into gaza has been able to bring jessica washington reports and, and who rethink masika? this was the scene of to israel targeted palestinians traveling on the machine highway. the major road links the northern parts of the street to the south. it's the main road families are using to flee these really bombardment to kansas city and the surrounding areas. but the south isn't safe either in come eunice, this communities stuck in a never ending cycle of death and devastation. dan tonight to move into people

arrived at really overwhelmed hospital. there is no list help and is really strikes on densely populated areas with no fuel for his car. this palestinian doctor rides his bike between make shift shelters to treat his patients about the solve the physical, the shuttle. what are the obstacles? is the road itself? sometimes the zip obama to the boat is damaged, so i have to carry the bicycle of my shoulders. i'm on some of the distance until i'm positive bubble and destruction. of the guns as healthcare system is on the verge of collapse. no few and shortages of medicine and basic hospital supplies me out at the thought of reduce the entire health care sector in gaza strip as they do support us because even those 4 hospitals are on the immune. in fact, because they're partially out of service due to lack of fuel and consequently follow up a limited number of people have been able to leave gaza via the rafa crossing. others have been forced to return,

is rarely authorities deported thousands of palestinian workers who had been detained in israel. they what permits were revoked? optima launched its attack on southern israel. the workers say they were held in harsh conditions. one man said they would treated like animals or what i've got enough, one of us why you that are provided for the police. arrested would cause one by one they blindfolded and handcuffed us for 2 days. we slept on the ground unaware of what was happening without any food or a will to once i get them off. they may be free now, but these palestinians have legal to celebrate. forced to return to garza with their homes may no longer be standing and their families displeased or was killed. jessica washington to 0 or the insights is an international law professor at queens university in canada. you also previously worked in gauze for

a while. that's the un agency for palestinian refugees. joining us from also, one question that we have to ask and we've been asking very often since the start of this war is what is legal? what is legal in war? any country that is attacked has a right to self defense. we know that, but what are the broad principles that make something legal or illegal? okay, so thanks for having the let of, let me just address the 1st point you made about self defense. actually, there is a claim that is being bandied about in the media and by political leaders. leadership, especially in the west that israel enjoys are right to self defense under article $51.00 of the united nations charter in relation to the attack that was brought against it. on the 7th of october by palestinian paramilitaries, that is false. i would direct all of your read your listeners, the paragraph 139139 of the international court of justice's advisory opinion on

the gallery of the wall, dated 2004. and in that paragraph, the court makes it very clear that israel does not enjoy a right of self defense under article $51.00 of the un charter in relation to a tax that emanate from within an occupied territory that it controls gas. i use an occupied territory is real easy and effective control over it. and therefore, it cannot claim a right of self defense and in relation to that, in addition, these attacks are not computable because the levels are 2nd to last for a 2nd. because as, as, as you said that the, the idea of the israel has a right to self defense is one that is widely stated. one that i stated apparently misstated to be very clear. you are telling us that according to paragraph 139 of the decision to 2004 decision made by the international court of justice is real. doesn't have the right to retaliate against the after the attacks of october, the 7th. as a slight difference, i'm saying they don't have

a right to use self defense under article 51 of the united nations charter. however, they do have a right to use for us to repel attacks against it that emanated from within the occupied territory. this does not qualify as self defense under international law, and that force has to be proportional and necessary to repel the attack. by all accounts, the type, character quality intensity of the force used by israel since october. the 7th goes well beyond anything that is reasonable, reasonably proportionate or necessary to repel those attacks of october. the 7th that includes the whole wholesale carpet bombing of millions of people in the gaza strip, the legal order of $1100000.00 of them in the northern part of the guys a strip to ostensibly go to the door, the selves of the strip. where when they get there on their way there, they're actually bombed by the occupying power. this is a war crime that we call perfect e for which individual criminal responsibility flows. and also we can forget the

starvation of the civilian population in violations. the laws of worst operation as a tool of worth is not allowed. and we know that these rabies have closed off water, fuel food and electricity to this population. so none of that qualifies as self defense, under international law at all. and your listeners need to be made aware of fast israel. the stated goal of this milledgeville operation from the is really side, is they want to wipe out a mouse, render him us unable to carry out any further attacks on israel. is that goal alone and even the way it's framed? how does international law look at that? or? yes, when, when a state uses force, but in particular, when an occupying power uses force to repel or deal with unrest and violence against the presence in the territory. its goals have to be legitimate military

ones. and the claim by israel that they're going to use this military move to wipe out a mass, which is a political party. right. is so far beyond anything that is reasonable, these rabies know they can actually wipe out a political movement that, that won't happen. in fact, even then, the intensity of the bombardment are, you know, this is a boon to the political credibility. if you'd like a pass among palestinians who might actually want want to support the movement. so the fear is that by marking their goals so broadly in such a broad weight that is not capable of being met, that will provide these re lease with greater time during which they will continue to press the population south. bombard that population, star of that population, and as by their military intelligence has already disclosed to the world, drive that population into egypt, forcibly transfer them,

and so on. the military objectives to be proportionate and necessary to repel the attacks of 7 october. they are neither proportionate, neither necessary and israel to the, to that extent is violating international law. it's already, most of the 1st time since the beginning of this conflict. i've had these, you know, high flying discussions about what international law says and, and what is the source of the law and how the events that are unfolding right now can be qualified under law. but of course the events continue to happen and israel's bombardment of the gaza strip continues to unfold. and we're at now 9200 and something palestinians killed on the 28th of this war. so it is real beyond the reach of international. and there's no question that it is, but uh, but it appears that in this case uh, the lies is interior to more in the breach than it is in its adherents. and that's why it's extremely important for the international community to without delay issue . in addition,

criminal indictments for those who are responsible for committing more crimes, crimes against humanity and other core crimes. the international criminal court is particularly important body. the office of the prosecutor seized of the matter. they're not moving as fast as they should and with every day that passes without the issuance of criminal indictments, not only is international law and the of the importance of it, the question and legitimate, legitimately so by people who are being bombarded and elsewhere in the world but impunity continues, and that's only going to fuel more fuel, more of the same. and so it's extremely important that all states put pressure um, not only on the office of the prosecutor, but indeed also domestically bring prosecutions and indictments domestically, which they are obliged to do. but by virtue of the 1949 geneva conventions, all high contracting parties,

that is 194 states have obligations under the geneva conventions to prosecute or extradite those who border or commit great breaches of the convention which include the war crimes that we've seen take place starting at schiffer and another sheet and to the extent they don't do, they're not abiding by their international legal obligations. are the, just as you were speaking, a news line cross, which i want to expose to you because this exactly, you know, embodies the, the, the gray area. well, you will tell us whether it's gray, black or white, or what is really military. these really military, you were just finding this out. says that one of its aircraft hit an ambulance identified as being used by a moss units. uh and then a number of homos operatives were killed in the strike. again, we're just getting this information is real, acknowledging that it hits an ambulance, but israel also in the same breath saying this was by the way, a hum us unit. this has been at the center of what is real has said since the beginning is that we're actually this israel speaking,

we are actually targeting that. what we're targeting, even if it's a residential building or hospital or school, we're doing it because it is in near narrative a military target. what does international law say about an event like this? one? sure, it's a good question and not unique to these events. it happens all the time in war where and attacking party attacks and object that is civilian and therefore not targeted will. and claims that that object has changed its character to military objective. now what we know, in most cases, these objects, this ambulance is marked very clearly as to 1000000000, and therefore it is presumptive leisurely and therefore enjoys protection against being target is the burden of proving that there's been a ledge change in the character of an object from civilian to military rest on the attacking party, an absent any evidence that demonstrates cogent habits that demonstrates that this

change has taken place. the attacking carding bills in making their claim and therefore the civilian object is continued to be civilian and it is presumptively a war crime to attack the arctic mind party. i'll just call jump in because to that point, uh, the is really military statement says quote, we have information which demonstrates you're talking about the burden of proof. we have information which demonstrates the amounts of method of operation is to transfer to our operatives and weapons in ambulances. and we intend to release additional information about that. so in your, in what you are telling us um that they will need to prove that right, right. now they're saying it, but they need to prove it well based indeed, and based on what you've described about the general statement, that is to say they're suggesting and of course i'm only going on what you've just described to me. but they're suggesting that it is a general policy if i'm asked to abuse a, you know,

civilian objects like ambulances, to carry out their operations. but no, that's not enough. the talking party needs to demonstrate on the specifics of each and every target that it um, engages in, deployed a munitions against those that those targets at that time have converted from civilian to military objects. they must provide that information to the international community. so that can be tested. now israel claims these things, the best way for these claims to be substantiated is to provide that evidence to the office of the prosecutor of the international criminal court. or, or do you guys, that's fine. yeah, i want to make, i want to make something. the other thing is that these are civilian objects. just before we run out of time, i want to make this really clear what you're telling us. what i'm taking away from this conversation is that you're saying that by default, okay, by default, if the is really military or any military for that matter, targets a school hospital or in this case here, an ambulance,

by default it is considered civilian and then it is up to them to prove that it was actually not civilian, but due to circumstances, they have to bring that proof. it was actually a military target. and if they don't prove that, then it's illegal under international law. am i right? you are right. okay. okay, thanks for it. look, thanks for that short answer actually because we, we wanted to at some point, you know, we got to make these things simple so that we can all understand and twin compute what we're seeing. this is one of the difficulties of dealing with law in more because the attacking parties often times advanced military's blowing to states their advance themselves with advanced economy economies and capabilities. queen. then what they're targeting are legitimate military targets. of course they're going to do so. but they're never pressed to provide evidence of seen and until in such time until such time as they do those objects on their face that are marked as

schools, hospitals, ambulances, and so on. they are present at least civilian and therefore protected. keep in mind, in this particular series of events, that is the hostilities that have taken place for the past 3 weeks is really claims on these targets that these targets are, are, if you'd like military or convicted, converted to military objects. this is all being done by the same military intelligence that failed to detect the paramilitary attacks of 7 october on one of the most highly surveil borders in the world. and so the international communities, right, to be skeptical, skeptical about these claims until such time as these re, these offer up the evidence, which of course you right have been did. yeah, the, the okay, i understand what you're saying the, the suggestion there being that there are there intelligence maybe not a 100 percent as demonstrated in the on october 7th, a already in the space international law professor queens,

university and canada. thank you so much for that. context really useful. thank you . so israel's military says that it has now surrounded gauze, a city after approaching from multiple directions. it says at least $25.00 soldiers have been killed in battles with palestinian fighters since tuesday is really troops moved in from the 3 positions in the north and east. there's been heavy fighting northwest of gauze. a city is really forces move towards a test drive towards the alco rama neighborhood baffles. also reported into hor, a dick and to the north of that area is really forces have been seen on the main slide. dean road. that's one of the axes we're talking about earlier that links the north of the strip all the way down to the south and is really army and navy has been targeting vehicles on the outer sheet coastal highway tar cobra zoom was telling us about that. that means israel controls access to an movement along the main road connecting north because it's

a south causes us secretary of state anthony blinking is in israel. he says he's spoken to is really lead or is about taking concrete steps to minimize the palestinian civilian death. so when can says a humanitarian pause, an award could facilitate that, as well as a path to increase the flow of aid and to gauze. we provided is real advice that only the best of friends can offer on how to minimize civilian deaths while still achieving its objectives of finding and finishing how much terrace and or infrastructure of violence. today i spoke with prime minister netanyahu and other senior officials about concrete steps to do that. president biden is consistently stressed the need for his role to operate according to international humanitarian law. i also have the size that the protection civilians must take place. not just in gaza, but also in the west bank where incitement and extremities, violence against palestinians must be stopped and perpetrators held accountable. 3rd,

we need to substantially and immediately increase the sustained flow humanitarian assistance in the gaza. and getting american citizens and other farm nationals out of gas. we believe that each of these efforts would be facilitated by the amount of training pauses by arrangements on the ground that increased security for civilians and permit the more effective and sustained delivery of humanitarian assistance. we now want to listen to live to the spokesperson for the palestinian health ministry, who was speaking from the largest hospital in the gaza strip l. schiffer hospital during this attacks. but the red cross told us and informed us in a very frank way, that is ro, is rejecting any form of coordination for all the humanitarian missions. however,

and given the escalating situation and the increasing numbers of a wounded, an injured especially critically injured people that cannot be treated here in our hospitals. as i mentioned earlier, and given the increasing number and the huge number of the injured people that are arriving to the indonesian hospital and other medical centers that are enabled to absorb and treat those huge numbers. and after approving that, some of the patients will be transported and transferred to egypt. we then have decided to send those ambulance vehicles much that would leave or depart from the medical complex from the south at 4 pm. and before the vehicles, the part that we have informed everyone through

a press conference and we have also been in touch with the international council and the red cross and also the united nations agencies to inform them the whole words have watched that those vehicles, the parts it's from a ship for medical center at 4 pm, however, is row. and the aggression of israel has attacked and target to attack the ambulance, causing a massacre against victims civilians and wounded people. and given this massacres and the is riley aggression. the for the memo from somebody that is using the silence of the international community as a green light to continue to commit to more massacres against our people,

our injured and our paramedics and our hospitals and also ambulance vehicles and humanitarian missions. and given this massacre week, we confirmed the following. first, we demand from the international community to shoulder its responsibility, given those practices and aggressions, being committed by israel on a daily basis in casa. and that is against too many terry in law. and in geneva convention the international community. it should stop those massacres that are committed against our people and our paramedics and our injures and victims. we call on everyone to help us create

a humanitarian car doors to ensure the transportation of victims and patients. and to allow you many, terry and aids to be funneled to gas us trip. we also demand the red cross to activate the 1st convention of geneva in order to protect the health facilities and facilitate the work of the paramedics. and i'm the las vegas goals in order to evacuate and transport victims wanted and patients with no restrictions and no target. think peace be upon you. you've just been listening to the spokesperson for the palestinian health ministry . he was speaking from al shift the hospital again. the largest hospital in the gaza strip. what was he talking about?

let's do a little recap here because this was an attack that took place a little earlier today. the context is this. there was a medical convoys that was scheduled to leave. i'll shift the hospital at 4 pm local time in gaza. the medical convoy was carrying the injured civilians. we are told a gravely injured civilians who were then going to be treated abroad so outside of gaza. and shortly after, as it was leaving the hospital shortly after it left the hospital, the convoy was struck by it is really military attack. and that killed many of the people who were in the car. what you're watching now is the answer map of that attack. we're now being told by the spokes person of the policy and health industry that he's reminding us that they had made it public the time,

which that con boy would be leaving. and they had described, they had warned the world and also therefore israel of the existence of this con boy um and that, that's when it was attacked. so this is the context around this, this attack that we've been following and trying to get all the information that we can on over the last few hours. also another bit of relevant information there. um was that the red cross informed the is really felt at the i beg your pardon, the policy and health ministry. that is really, is rejecting any form of coordination for humanitarian missions. why is this important? this speaks to one of the questions we've been asking over the last few hours. you see the medical bodies are able to communicate with israel as our schools normally and say we have civilians leaving this area at this place. this is not a military target, but the red cross now saying if this is accurate, that is really is rejecting any form of coordination. and that's

a part of the answer as to why and how that con boy could be targeted. it says this is what we have on this event. i'm bringing in more one to charlotte and i'll add one more thing, more one, which is what the is really military has said that they, they acknowledge that they hit an ambulance. that the is really air force had an ambulance, but they say it was actually a military target because it was being used to carry him off operative and that that's why they struck in. they said that they say that they have evidence that they will share this evidence later for the moment. you know, for the moment we don't have anything more than that. that's where we are. this is the, this is the kind of event you know, that will, i think sharpie, mine's crystallize, opinions on this conflict, not, not by any means the 1st, but one of the many events where people will look at this and your eyes kind of

pump and, and you think what's going on here will look, i mean, as your previous guests said, and here's the specialist. the burden of proof is on these raise that if indeed they suspect that an entire hospital staff is complicit in the smuggling of to use israel's word that arrests into the southern part of gaza then is that i should show some proof of that distress. common sense, it's not international law, that's just common sense. if you give someone unit to show why you're getting them right, you can just go down the run them to get people without showing some tools that they have to go through or something. right? and it's not just those who are injured within them but, and says it's all those hospital stops, but not intrusted by the red cross. and this and the other international organizations that they have been in effect credit both a lot all these years and older trying to do is just trying to treat the patients in a, in, you know, as much possible as,

as possible as they can. now the other thing is that what does this really mean moving forward? think about it. the so does this really means that isn't now is going to bump every possible the unbeknownst because it suspects it off. how must fight there's that or because how much presumably uses i'm you know, says so it's going to be bombing, what more hospitals, more ambulance is more schools, more churches because there are better rest of them, more mosques, because it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. not because it's an international law because it's common sense that this would be a war crime. this would be crime. forget about the walk. there is a crime against the people who are basically lost in man. and chaos that is right is called, is causing by besieging uh the guys and the guys ship in general. and by bonding those who are ordered to move southward. so those who are presumably feeding guys, not just also what happened to be, you know, arranged

a transportation for because they kind of themselves play. those who are playing gaza was, are on foot or, and cars are also being bumped. that's what we saw in our rashid road, and this is where i have another question for you. it's on the logic of this. on its face, there's a, there's a floor and the logic here is realize calling gardens in the north of the gaza strip to go south. and then in multiple instances has bombed people who have gone south. how well again, this is leave a side morality, leave a side international law for a 2nd. how does that make sense? it's actually, it makes sense, but if you don't assume been good nature, then everything that is that i had has good intentions is what it does not have good intentions. it's a floor with those that it deems terrace and, and, and the oppose a fetish national security. and it has about been the work of its president, its prime minister, its leading generals, its defense minister, and what if possible, this is, you know,

a level of issues on in the is really establishment. they have vowed that they're going to punish the palestinians for being a student was living in casa for believing the most better stadiums. in fact, explicit or implicit at their support for how much. why the, you know, they're not trying to prove anything. they're basically saying, and that's what the president present has sold, said to one british to join us. they said look, they are all responsible. they are all responsible. there are more interesting st guys because they could have or should have, uh, you know, move on some kind of what could it, i guess, i guess the pressure of, of how much a now basically is right, hold of water sponsible. so there is really a discrepancy, there isn't a discrepancy in was to fight this war in the most vicious way possible. and they've said that these people, these people are human animals. right? that would have the defense minister you,

i've got absolutely enhanced that approaches. among many among many, i think the one that said we need to flatten garza flat and a small strip of land. that's the home of 2 point. 2000000 instead of cities, flats in it. what does that but a war crime? what is that? but a collective punishment. what is that? but a genocide, i guess people most of civilian trying to find safety somewhere in this, in the midst of this work. so this is where it has actually expressed intention, but it's planning to harm the kid domain, to destroy deflection, to punish, to pick out a venge against how much and the entire people does enhance. i think what it's doing now. we do not need to, you know, explain or justify for isn't it why it's doing. busy to even try to, you know, looking in the brand of nothing. you know, it's left side on the right size to see if there's a good nature to him or not. in the end of the day, if there is

a floor and it took that decision that it's going to do whatever it takes in order for guys not to breeze or get or i'm, i'm going to go to the, to our correspondence in the occupied west bank and just a 2nd, but before i do that i just before i do that i, i've got to ask you about the timing of the of this because this is happening as anthony blinking, right, is paying a new visit's not as 1st a new visit to be is really precious presidents and prime minister and part of his message has been you have got to limit uh the loss of palestinian lives. you've got to find a way to prosecute this war. but how is real? does that matters? those are his words. they, i mean, it doesn't appear that they are listening to him. it doesn't, it doesn't appear they are listening to them or in any possible level, either not on the possible of humanitarian poses, not from the level of give it a break in order to see how way we're going to do about the hostages. in terms of, uh you would expect to hear my dad in law, you know,

take these on the civilians and so on, so forth. and i think in that way, uh, 2nd there blinking is going to amman. jordan to speak through uh is out of your account that parts without was nothing basically the ticket to tell them to give them or to show them that america can use a leverage, i guess is a i so i mean, i don't want to explain this. you know, this face just in one minute, right? to understand the relation between is there in the united states. so we all know, and we've been speaking for the past 20 something days about how the united states is 40100 percent behind, isn't present by them. it's clear that there is no, they like between the 2, but they don't have the same perspective. they don't have the same interest. it has an immediate interest. there's a view, the palestinians in historic satisfied whether they live within is or in the west bank in east jerusalem order. garza is an fix. get to that part. america has another part. it's called the griffin. i'm at least it's i, it was on the middle east, not just on what's happening on my la hebron and,

and garza so it keeps telling goes right, i need to take care of this global thing. if you want me to defend you, i'm going to do this and i look back and you are torturing the palestinians. i cannot defend you. and in front of the jordanians, the objections, the ssl with these, they have all these the rockies and so so forth. you need to help me help you help me help you helped me by respect thing is our national helped me by allowing for the humanitarian pause. so then i can help you with the region in order for us to somebody, you know, be all lies in a constructive way. is there a says, as except for the past 50 years is that says, you can't express your opinion about what goes on in my neighborhood. but you have no veto over what i say it will do in despite by this time, america says the is read, you have a say on what goal is one of them, at least, but you have no veto of what, what america needs to do with the mentally, so it is a division of labor. it gets complicated. for example, when a limit on the palestinians, why not in historic, by this time it's closer,

is closer to the middle east. as for example, 82 is renovated to that one on your not says it's not like that, that place in the beginning, right? because i was given on that was not his thoughts, but as a rental has to be a lawyer that they were attacking. so it always gets a bit tense between the united states and is read when one says, what do you agree? you will have no faith over what i do here. but the americans are trying to so we are trying to help you in the region. we're trying to help you execute this for in a way that is manageable and defend the boat in the international public opinion. there's writers and not convince it was a 0 senior political analyst, molanda shar, thank you so much for all of that. so i, as i was saying, we do want to speak to honda, so who would she joins us from occupied east jerusalem. we're still on um what happened outside i'll shift the hospital with is real and know is real. acknowledging that it's air force truck, an ambulance. what more can you tell us about?

what do we know about this and what information are they providing? a bully is rarely, military has taken responsibility for striking an ambulance outside of ship a hospital saying that they had intelligence and that this intelligence was shared with the other agencies and entities that they work with at their work. how math operative inside that ambulance, who were to be additionally went on to say that they have more information about how, how this uses ambulances to transport themselves as a transport weapons. but again, we have not seen this information is really military is also stressing that this part of the gaza strip is a war zone. it is a battle zone and they are calling on civilians to weave. but the reality is, on the ground. and as a we've been hearing from source of in gaza, there is simply no place to go. these really military,

really absolving themselves of any responsibility when it comes to the civilian death, tolls in gaza, you have tens of thousands of people who are sheltering in hospitals. and these really military is targeting those ambulances, they said they have given repeated warnings to civilians to evacuate, sending flyers sending messages. but remember, a lot of people do not have any sort of internet or cellular connectivity to receive messages from the is really military. so the military saying that they are releasing flyers from the air, relying on back to absolve themselves of responsibility, is something that a lot of experts in the region are slamming. now these really military spokesperson, daniel, how god is speaking tonight, saying that they are coordinating everything with their allies, specifically the americans, and that's the call on civilians to go further south is something they have been echoing. but another reality on the ground is that there was still increased

bombardment in the south. 2 in place of like dropbox and con eunice. so in the end there really is no safe place inside of gone. so uh how does that work? uh, joining us from occupied east jerusalem. thank you very much for that. so we can talk to dr. omar, abdomen, and you're a pediatric neurology. doctor. you're also the co founder of guys of medic voices. that's a social media account that links doctors working within ga. so you're joining us from london. i wonder what your, your network is telling you about this incident that we've been talking about this attack that we've been talking about on ambulance is leaving l shift. so anything you can tell us about that at this hour. thank you for having me on the program. this evening and so we have been, as you said, through regards to meta invoices in contact to adoptive permit x surgeons, health care professionals on the ground since day one. if this works and the communication is extremely difficult, difficult in the last period of time,

especially with ongoing electricity cuts on community and failures. what i have heard from colleagues on the ground, actually it's a very close front of us who is a cause and doctor who works in the states. his family, his neighbors lives next to of sure falls. so he has been told from this direct family, but unfortunately a number of his neighbors were killed by the strikes that i sent. you happen to be entrance. i'm actually following up on the ambulance come voice and some of these siblings were injured as well. so. so now losing use we are hearing from that we have no being able to communicate with some of the doctors that i'll shift like kind of can i sign up and save time, you know, others to, to understand what's happening. but clearly there is an escalation and this is as ron bouchard rodney point stuff. this is amounts to

a war crime if you're targeting health care facilities and is there a, has an amazing precedence of doing that over the last few weeks and months and years. this is not in your situation. we have seen this in every escalation, every conflict since up o 7, o 8, when operation costs that took place off time, us coming into power. we have seen targeting of residential civilian areas but also health care facilities. often this is unacceptable. dr. what next for going says largest hospital there in gaza city, which is surrounded by the is really military. they tried to get the, the wounded patients out of gauze. the city today that convoy was struck. many were killed. if not all, what next? i am terrified by thinking of what comes off to this because every day we switch on and use it gets west. so i mean, the reality is spend, oh,

she paused to bear in mind this morning. we haven't videos send from doctors within the hospital showing that the generates us. it essentially stopped functioning. so they were competing in the dock of the night from kind of break of doing that. we're using them about phone line flights to lights up the car goes into our pricing fits is that women and children waiting and screaming and inferior terrified by the sound of strikes outside and, and you know, in the generate to stop working. people don't realize that this means essential life saving equipment inside the home, so it's like mechanical ventilation. ventilate as a no longer functioning. what actually practically means is premature babies on unit 2 units end up dying if they are not needed event today, which is basically what the doctors, unless they've been doing. we've again, no, been able to contact the frequent need since this morning. but i think k, the there is um, you know, those being in the recreational that, which frankly is,

is that sponsored for to think that at hosp, the size of 70000 people sheltering inside big brands can just get up and move and it was and, and these are administrators that have, have surrounded it, so i am very worried. and as a medical community, we are extremely concerned that this will be essentially the obliteration of the largest. uh so, so we've seen direct expressed by the idea to bull mouse you false. so to bum quotesoft, so say, you know, we keep saying we usually keep using the right unprecedented, and it really is unprecedented. read a. there is another events which as you rodney said, makes your eyes just wide open and just, it's, it's, it's frankly shocking. a doctor or more of them. a non pediatric neurology. doctor, co founder of garza medic voices. thank you very much for joining us on the program

. thank you for having a as we've been hearing it is really a sol killed at least 14 palestinian civilians who are trying to flee israel's bombardments. the massacre took place along the l. rashid highway in gauze, or this is a separate attack from the i'll ship a one we were just talking about. so this took place along the algebra. she'd coastal road, which runs from the north of the strip to the south of gaza. doctors will fit cars where joe was travelling on the road when the attack took place on palestinians attempting to evacuate. he shares what he saw as the thought of. so yesterday i was attempting to head from the north to the south of gaza strip, believing it was safe there, especially that the area where be living came on for rushes bombardment. we live to horrifying days. i managed to hold my ground there for almost 3 weeks, but it was getting worse. i used the cruise to receive both to flee from northern casa, about 500 meters from the cause of valley became much

a barrel as if sales from his very warships and cut off shore. also is really small, i suppose, was stationed kilometer and a half away and on the separate area. while the vehicle's traveling on the road were riddled with shells and bullets, host carriage was hit on board but killed even the animal was torn to pieces. suddenly i heard a loud explosion and foot. we were all dead shells penetrating my call from left to right. i thought it was dreaming. i tried to get myself together and conjured up my experience as a doctor. luckily i didn't fully conscious all the color ahead of me counting assembly a young couple in the young children age 8 to 11 was directly hits the mother and one of the daughters each lost and um, the other sofa multiple injuries. they were in total panic. i personally tried to come them down a carried them from the ground and put them in my car and brushed them to hospitals . on the way back, dead bodies was skeptical over the road. as we speak, dead bodies are still lying there since yesterday. many private calls and a number of ambulances will also destroy it. let linda hold coverage for the time

we reached the hospital. the number of victims was on there, but today i'm here to check on them. this story is now mine, old. there's no doubt leave deep skulls in our souls for years to come. i don't even know the names. i been searching for hours but couldn't find them. i also medical software showed me the none of them to come to the wounds unsatisfied. i feel that human and professional g t o of something else to bring to you. many of the thousands of palestinian workers, the israel has sent back the guns. i say that they were beaten and starved while it is really captivity. the workers had been detained ever since how mazda is october 7th attack on israel. israel also scrap the scheme for palestinians from garza to work. it is real and indeed occupied westbank, where we challenge reports waiting and hoping for a glimpse of a face they haven't seen in weeks and see if they might never see again. on the

other side of the crossing of some of the few palestinians. israel aloud through its long standing blockade of gauze workers with permits to cross the fortified porter and toil in low paid jobs on the other side. now after weeks and is ready, prisons, labor turns into waiting arms with shots accounts of their experiences. workers and i didn't knew where to go. we stayed on the side of a road. the police picked his up and took his to prison. we were hang castillo, legs tied, and people were beaten. good. where okay, i don't know what was happening inside the 2nd you uh, how much you uh, how much they were timeless. leave us for 4 days with no food and no water. they don't turn off at night trip. us accusing us of being how much of

the homecoming of relief and t's crossed on. so i can take 2 captivity is over, because as palestinians a real prison is of a different sort located and formed by israel, it might be home at home because in fact i'm on my control and dangerous place. oh, the small you for sorry, we went to israel to work and feed our kids. is it from the killers? i felt like criminal not done nothing. the work was like paid, but it was still a bite, the lifeline for the $18000.00, causing this issue permits. israel's blockade has laid out causes economy where the un estimates unemployment is at about 45 percent. now the scheme is going to, he's rarely separate goal concept with gaza, says prime minister benjamin netanyahu, except for the poems folding on its homes. have these ready troops on the streets for each other,

and how does the leader of living on his beloved group us on this rolla has spoken for the 1st time since the start of the war and gaza, as well as said that the impact of this war will not be like previous conflicts, and it will prove in his words, to be a decisive battle at the last to do is that it's closed as size demik shake and ask quake in terms of security, military politics, diplomatic, even psychological, it has very low, profound, distract cedric existence and very percussive d. yeah. and it's about what's taking place and gets us through today proves this to p d t. and him all inputs in see one of the is a, has to be that the, i don't think getting, getting my civilian palestinians in guys the most of those kids are women on the send the,

the majority of the victims of civilians and massages, one more of the house and has more on this rel, a speech from the cora in southern lebanon. as well as things this, what is going to be longer than that, as, as, as being said, that it's, it's going to be a different floor. so given the fact that this is a different floor, what's the fellow as doing today is that he was setting the scene. he was making physical laws 1st on establishing as well as argument, putting everyone in front of the responsibilities, whether there's rarely use, whether the americans and also setting that i hold responsibility for the front 11 on this front is going to be a side front. however, if things are going to go out of control, if it as, as going to fall and how math is going to for, then our front is going to be a main front. and then he also warned that if the allies of his read mainly the

united states isn't going to put this read all kind of contain is, rose responded, so there is, yeah, is there is a thought. then this is going to take the whole struggle of the whole conflict into maybe original dimension. there are people who, where anticipate things, not slow laws, speech with a lot of expectations, high expectations that maybe and that's all i was going to go for an, an all out war. these people are upset going on to they think that no smaller speech was upsetting. the fellow speech was mainly about the topic and there was no real substance and this is one t, there's another team which is the fellow so forth a base. i mean they, they are going to accept enough solar, whatever he says. and there's another that there's a set team, which is the team, that's what that is concerned about. the war doesn't want to see live in on getting

into this war. some of them are kind of relieved. they think that no fellow speech today, just this then slip a distance, living on a new way. i don't know the, from the water despite the fact he didn't choose out the fact that liberal and actually is already in the middle of this war. and that's it. from me for this news hour and today this does have page will be with you in just a moment to the top of the hour to stay with us. according to the un, since the conflict broke out into done in april, more than 700000 people have fled the country. most of them have fled to chatter egypt, but now some are arriving here in libya. some people bring dispute a more set, but it's not enough for all the children. if the fighting continues and neighboring through that many fear that could possibly be an influx of refugees and possibly fighters crossing into libya, you in which the yours is. libya is not a safe place for refugees and asylum seekers and that they try to give assistance

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