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us into jobs to cover the carnage they're all that they can report on 1st hand is the, is really saw palestinian reporters of risk and everything to get the story you 15 members killed in an asteroid. sharing company. one that we don't cover the news we cover the way the news is the listening post israel problems goals as hospitals attacking and already crumbling health service. that place is protected by international law, but hundreds of thousands of policy deals with suit shelter. what is the state of causes health care system ravaged by siege and this is inside the
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hello again, only james bays. there are limits to war as defined by international law, such as the protection of hospitals and places of refuge. these have had no apparent effect on israel on the floor. in garza, all the all news of hospitals being attacked prompted widespread international outrage with israel accused of war crimes. get more and more hospitals are being targeted. all the health services have been hit to ambulances. bowman, for example, repeated attacks on the same place, rules out the possibility of accidental strikes. all this is for the past of the health system crumbling after years, a blockade and war. what few stocks of medicine and basic supplies that remain of dwindling. so how can palestinians get treatment in such dire circumstances and how to medical stuff cope? we're discussing a little less than a few moments with our panel of guests, but 1st highly my mood reports from con eunice and southern gaza. well start, dreadful and capable or as these regularly media outlets describe it. it's
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a war to end all the wars, but so far, israel is using is sophisticated attack ships. and here's the artillery is destroying residential homes, hospitals and schools and public facilities, creating a tsunami of casualties and cooling thousands of civilians. so far, palestinians are asking the question, how many should die before is relas? stop this blood bath, honey. more fluid on unit city. the support inside is stored on friday instead of today, these are the only intensified is bombardment of hospitals. everyone from medical work is on the ground to the world. health organization is warning. it's pretty hundreds of thousands of lives at risk. alexandra bios explains to start with 16 of guys, is $35.00 hospitals or nearly half are no longer functioning. and the casualties
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announcing every minute those still operating are overcrowded, and dr. say conditions are catastrophic. 2 of the biggest, the indonesian hospital and al shiva are at risk of running out of power gases. only cancer hospital was also attacked and suspended operations after it ran out of fuel. basic supplies are hard to come by. doctors have had to use vinegar as a disinfectant screws and sewing needles. others performed surgeries and crowded corps doors without anesthetic. the health ministry has warranted babies and incubators are imminent risk. in addition to the patients seeking medical treatments displaced, families have turned to hospitals for safety and shelter. hundreds of thousands of palestinians are camping out in the surrounding areas. and so far is really his bond, at least 5 hospitals. the health ministry says more than 130 medical staff have been killed. and at least $25.00 ambulances targeted since the beginning of
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israel's war on gaza. deliberately targeting medical teams and hospitals is a violation of the geneva conventions and the palestine red crescent. society says israel's actions could amount to war crimes the football. now let's bring you know, a panel of guests in garza city. we have talked to ahmed, what color last to the head of the plastic surgery department of the all she for hospital is the biggest medical complex in gaza and was targeted recently and it was really striking romano nibble saw suck a spokeswoman for the palestinian red crescent society and in alexandria in egypt, it's mads gilbert who heads the emergency department of the university hospital of north no way. he's also a professor of medicine. he's worked in gaza for many years, including in the 2014 was assigned to all of you for joining us. i think we should start by going to talk to um at the in the chief hospital,
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you are an irish palestinian surgeon who is the on the ground in garza city. you have seen many things in the past. clauses had for was before this one, but did you ever think you'd see a situation as bad as this so sorry, so for having us actually smile. you says we're in garza and us. i move to the last february from london. i wasn't as long as possible and, but what's have even want to describe here is this one of the worst they have ever seen this funny but situation at the the atmosphere here and there is no safe place . that's all there is no one's here. your thoughts on there is no way that you see any, any life by the end of this time in. so there is that there is nothing we can expect will improve the kind of situation in hosted a 3rd, which is $750.00 passages in the 1st few hours. we receive more than a 1000 casualties in this hospitality. what's happening now or the hospital and
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bits of for those patients out on the ground over accounted. we have more than 50000 people to ship a hospital. and if it use or just. ready back you waiting in the ship also because i'm assuming it's one of the 6 to places the would possibly have use are totally different from the old ones. i'm a ben surgeon i did with ben patients. the kind of been and the zip to van we've seen is, is to, to different on it means that see the slide, the spots of the very can out in the place that everything is. and me say, uh not that sick is septic. there is no way that to keep can keep everything clean and this hospital so that the beds are really severe, excessive, but i do keep driving cleaning cuz i've been, i've been in a few days to get again, deeper layout as of ben. so uh, the whole system i think is collapsing for the scholastic already because when you have most of those for i see you as a phone said that is half of the paid. those are functional only because the business i can now get into the cover it will at the supplies we get. and i was
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almost finished what we got as it last few days. this is many, many miles. but what do we need? what? because human goals are now in one day is more than what we used to consume in a months time. so we are running out of everything electricity. now we work on an engine, most of those demand hosted with us in the 2nd to the smaller united way money departments. they. they don't have any courtesy. they don't have lights, maybe he, i'm the theater. i see the i see us. it only has what else? there was a department, but we are what at any point as the it is running out to the, to with the water you how do you get the water we, we have really difficult. it's getting good. 3 cable. it's our next. i think it was the one we think is very we days for that. we didn't know what it's done from. there is no. i mean the remains and garza, i, i'd be kind of the time for the hotel and that there is nothing to me. it, let me just say we're up to the new car. i don't to ahmed. let me just interrupt
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you. that because on top of all of this, we had on the afternoon of the 3rd of november, an attack on a convoy of ambulances. that was going to take people to wrap up full medical care in egypt. when they left out, she fell and then they came back to us she for because they came under attack and the very hospital that you were in right now came under attack. yes. is that the you know, what's happened yesterday? exactly. that at the sheep almost beside is over a 1000. we have more than 2000 patients now in the hospice and attached to the diction they i proved to get us at less than a 100 patients to be evacuated through egypt. so the i see, i see and do you on every one to refuse to arrange for these patients transport as we have been. so emotional and then we found no way here to get the patients transported from a ship, a hospital to the file folder. so for me to go to to the south of garza, so diminished the opposite. a few days of waiting has decided that we wouldn't move
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this google's ambulances. and we would inform everyone that these are. but as we move at this certain time. so she falls without it through the sheet, which is the beach, the main that goes to the road, it down sort of borders and they informed everyone what's happening besides moving from ship a host with us in 2 or 3 minutes time in on sato around about they just bumped the 1st um business, and then the hoodie group decided to go back to sheep almost percent when they added up to it. she, for instance, they bought another house and business, and we got at least 50 people, kids in the tech savvy, where we, where were you at the time? that is the ultimate, where were you at the time? and i was really lucky, 10 minutes before the fact that it was the incidence that i have to buy something to eat. so it's the interest of the host with that, it's more of a small market what everyone's going to get something to eat that. so there are like for the street, for the money shops with, with the city and you know, few things much of the excess, more of the basis to,
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to buy something. so i went there trying to find something to eat. i was there was to mike when he's 10 minutes before the at that i was super lucky. you know, does he just to be able to escape the fun because when they bump that place, it's super. somebody called it. i think we were lucky that the stipends between, i'm going to send another car, otherwise the something's would have to get at least 2 or 300 people. somebody could out there and watch the video. this is a ship. all of this is bundled with us, but that is the incidence of ship also, which seems to be one of the safest places for the people here nearby. all you are from the palestinian red crescent. it was your ambulances, the bones. let me just tell you what these riley military said. they say it was an ass strike on an ambulance being used by her mouse and the number of her mouse terrace terrorist operatives. the woods were killed your reaction. all the action was happened yesterday was a water crime intentionally targeting
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a group of ambulances when they were trying to conduct their doing it to a young girl. surely food think critically injured patients to go to drop off a tutor bus to go to get treatment in egypt. unfortunately, the doctors said we were only now waiting wait, heading towards the house to transport the wounded people. we were fine and you know, says one, a little of them for the administrator of homes. one of them is for the kind of plan that are depressed. and during that time, due to of look at a blue book is on the streets because of the apartment we have to do is turn around and then when we are ready to turn it around and other, she's a street. the 1st one, boardman took a place for which to get at the front of cyber that the minister of health and you know, and then we were continued towards, she felt hospital when the 2nd bombardment happened. and it has resulted to that
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them as well defined as part of the present ambulance as well as to cliques where to critically injured what that's what i'm saying. just as justification for multiple attacks against immediate conditions and medical teams, that should not be acceptable by the health care workers to care personnel as well as healthcare facilities should be protected according to the international humanitarian law. up to this moment, the power standard across the how long it is and you and it says, went out to service due to the bloomberg ms from is the patient portion. most importantly, we have 4 clinics who were killed when they were trying to conduct their life thieving missions, trying to save other people's life at least 21 other a 21 other as colleagues were injured while also trying to save other people's life . this is an acceptable it just pretty funny to see has kid workers should risk
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their life in order to save other people's life weight according to the international humanitarian law, healthcare facilities and personal name should be protected. we are let me free. let me bring in, let me bring him don't to match. now i don't want to spend all of the discussion. assessing is riley claims because we could do that. and i think we need to concentrate on this on the situation the da situation in gaza. but i am going to bring up one because it's persistent. and that is the claim that the al she for hospital. why don't um, it is right now and you know it very well. dr. mads is the main. i'm us, come on and control center bill townsend, east that hospital. let's just address that because they keep bringing that up to you that the best respect for them or the nurses, the bottom of things and all the volunteers are doing in this involves patrols in, in north america, in particular. and in june and particular, they are in more of
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a state, for instance, they have been working night and day for more than 3 weeks. now this under the most challenging and dangerous circumstances, they pull in the state or mean nations, the commissioners, all they are getting sick themselves, then water is access to the water is used electricity as well to the work or currently these issues with the, you know, 2000 patients and then being attacked is, or in this search a situation that these people deserve. or d, mr. prince, from israel that she's fine. awesome. and 1st time we learned this was in 2009, and it needs to be repeated ever since. so they have all these years 16 years to improve and there is actually a really cool, richie fall. i was working and she was she funding in the, in the am and 1214,
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i think the teachers, i failed by our folks by new research. i'm sure i've never seen these commanders or at least come out of center. i've seen it. i don't know. i've worked there because i work according to the geneva convention. so i see is really got people to show the pools. my understanding of these obligations is that they want to take the pension away from the main problem, maybe mainly the massacres. oh, similarly on time on the health care. so the journalist will ask again, again and again, but yesterday they say, oh, these were home monitors without any use the least come spend device taking the media attention away from the main post. well, the video, right? so let's take the media attention back to actually what was going on on the ground
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in gauze that with don't to um it and just looking at the problems you're facing the annual hospital, i don't really know what to stop the lack of medical stuff. the fact that so many hospitals and clinics would be bundled clothes, the lack of medicine, the lack of surgical supplies, the limited water, the fuel that's running out. but let's start with, with, with the doctors and nurses. i've been, however, will tell you, cause i assume some of the doctors and nurses have been killed or injured. so just to start with, you know, what we're doing is to study on c, c a. and the whole situation is that no one knows where to go to be safe on the way to keep that find me to say, i'm be going to ship a hospital. we assume that this is the safest place, but it's the most like set in place to people and just coming to the big mess i filled out the hospital there, which is a chest pulse, but then we thought that would be the last. it needs to be bumping, garza being hosted with affairs and being a chair so ultimate that 150 years old hospital with the front verifies, in
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a new key. but what's happened is that there is no place which can be project it. so i think the numbers of the medical profession, us, cuz i'm more than 100. 35 when killed more than 20 uh, ambulances where the booms or just, you know, uh as tight. so what we see there is no fish which is safe. and don't forget, we all have overtime is we have our people. so what happens to me the most of my time you out and you can either. so i have no idea. and i have to bring my time in the my, to my 3 kids and my opinions wife to my office here in this more close to place. and we mainly mainly have the, uh, the cows or the, nor does to be a lot of meaningful. we hardly gets british fluid once, if it's 3 or 4 days, we get the chance to get water. so what's happening now? i read with only 50 percent capacity of i want to focus, you know, it's, it's not the only means or the whole most because and if you go there you see just
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yesterday i looked on the tune up those with me who have to see 200 patients under our list and we have to evaluate these been cases by day. so the whole situation is collapsing the people. what did we have a lot of flux decision to somebody else sort of will. good kid on. i think that they can of the attack when you went to go and have somebody in his house. we got uh, like just this morning the one of our doctors, his brother is a very, in a very good situation and the image of gauze, or what he saw. it is like, i say, for best to evacuate. so he will not be able to function. you know, great the why don't i want to clean those of the man to clean up his father was can like 3 weeks ago, and then he continued the same day. and is there anything that will stay with us yesterday? his cousin was good. there's what just need to talk to him one or 2 hours, then you have no time to stop. so the whole best scenario has been, you know, just some flooding and we work with not more than 50 percent of our truck by 60, regarding the equipment as a ben sedge. and i don't know to the blades do what we can get out. and i have to,
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i found the books of all the things, what because help united, which has to be the mean and i choose in the seventy's or 6 this and they are minus 9. mean, not us now, which i wasn't able to put in to use them now. so you what on what do, but even on october would not come back. the amount of consumables that we use already too much. when you go to the hospital, you would find the image. this is button is for the i think 250 inch of patients on the ground in the quarter door. there is no place the value of the people with betty. that's a situation where you are afraid of and then i just, i have been having school for the last 2 weeks, you know, coughing i had been gone, you know, was for 2 or 3 days and something you don't know what's happened is the most be, it's to work and you would find it flies in the hospital, you can't keep this on as much reading those. but because of the gosh of cases you get, imagine damages abundance of us. but that was to deal with 300 kids. what it's at one point which i did before, we have that area, the green zone and, or this is tough that it's on knowns for the hard. we can get to bits free for the
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kids. the guy lives on is the intensive care of the image of the department where to receive the care of patients. it's for now with patients. we can keep the patients you know, to take that care. so we'll put them in the grounds and start working on them. the anesthesia medication is done not as needed. we have very little of these things if you wouldn't live on that one. but i don't know why the people are looking at this . this is a lot of time, is that, you know, so i can't imagine you know, when ethic, which happened is it almost done just like the people to evaluate the patients the, bring in to the doctor, doctor labs. now i don't too much. do you all in egypt you're trying to get to gaza if you'll give them permission to go in that you have been in the out chief a hospital many, many times before. you've been in the hospital when it's been out rule, but do you recognize the conditions that you are hearing here? the fact that having to treat people not in beds, but allowing them flaws. i've heard that in some places in gauze don't,
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says are actually using vinegar to disinfect wounds. well, it is always to be the state for german 4 more minutes because it is so in secure, limited telling. but what we see is the pressure that i have never ever seen anything like. and i think is this friction is very precise. there is a fairly low based on the wrong to make patients. i mean, we've had to been to already think payments in one room. we've had to probably makes this in the war, but this is be all anything we have is in the for, at when you, after that the of you, we know like yesterday they had to stop the oxygen misuse that makes oxygen the vendors. they had just bought this 3rd washing machines and they had to turn on the air condition for the more before and the big ones are, in addition to, to not having water and support. this is my main extreme,
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the whole situation. first of all, your injury and then you take them to a new model for to a new internationally protected people. chair and or the sisters, whoever they are they do, you know, the tools and this invites the need to treat the risk. you, people don't forget that the majority of these patients are children. they're trying to find the cost and get into the rest of the children. and many of the ones that are often are talking about the birds for children. so this is the way this is the old man made. it's meant to be like the 1st the is really true to this, each of the electricity and the turn off the medical we waiting to come in to live. so no. okay,
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no problem. can i bring you in on the issue? can i bring you in in on the issue of fuel? i mean fuel is running out. there's not very much left. however, it all you of fuel running out completely cause israel's not allowing attain and what will then happen. and we are completely where the garden burning yells of if you would. we have a d 3, it process all of the present and you know, 2 squares talk because drawing out of gasoline, the situation and our hospital is also kept aster fixed as the highlighters. they are hunting fruit to just need to come supplies and medicine. and most importantly, you know, well hospitalizations also have turned into the police for the wounded people and patients they are shown sort of course, thousands of civilians we are. i'm the intense bombardments depends under the present run. i could tell them, but i put the hospital for the past days have been under intense bombardment. that is taking place all over the hospital, which has resulted to complete damage to the surrounding area of the hospital as
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when asked to view them as for the building at least 42 civilians where those who are in turn the displace that'll be or they spelt refuge inside the hospital, most of them are children. as women, adult ahmed, we talked about fuel, there's also a apparently, according to the un, only 5 percent of goals as both a needs. a currently being met. how, why read all you that that could be an even worse about compounding everything we've got um, even little bad things coming in in terms of disease. i see one official from the i see, i see all see same as a risk of color, a diarrhea, hepatitis a typhoid around the corner. this, i've been in an aesthetically let me say, uh, a sip stick. uh place is doing my work. if i'm moving here, i don't, i moved here. i was trying to keep this sentence. what's happening now? you can see this is if they can still under conditions. that's all. so they called
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at the front of people, even the stairs, the streets since the bathrooms are really busy with bikes, most of people are waiting for that. so the person hygiene would be better, you know, because of the lack of both the lack of places to get you or just the clean yourself and then the fluids and the places. so what's happening now is the biggest area to get all these cold at all times. that makes it things to happen. and it's what happened at any point i'm to need. you flies are pretty the hospital you would see what comes in or the one, but it stands, you know, very like book name is the patients with was coming out of the once. it's disgusting to see that i've seen one of the patients with 40 percent been, well i was doing this thing for the patient daily. and then he was one of when i brought the patients to the fact that we were still the patients were more than, well, no, a shower was or is it the phase? we was been a god, we was the so we use the washing, whatever you find that with you was because i don't know through the usual things and i put sugar was when most of the one. so i use everything. i think the patient
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at the end of the evening, the next day, then i'm looking at the morning. the vision was again for the when the situation is you know, is there any horrible here? i don't know what the people are waiting for. they are getting the people that they said they should go to south south to say, because them on their way. they said go to south, it said they both and south and do you on sports. no adults. but that is if anyone feels that this on save, but the people will use it, shouldn't those? yeah. so it's one of the patient slow people still that a septic it's so it's not that a septic replaces the so that it could all of the places. could i ask you very, very briefly, what would be on one message to the international community right now from chief a hospital in garza city? the kids we see the children we have seen. we have the kids in gauze. i'm not allowed to get the treatment as what we did. basic basic tried to anyone in the past will be, is to get support from the people outside the music of his property. and those of
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you know, we are collapsing, we are really tired. we can't do that, it's more, i'm want us, it's almost a month now for me. i'd be to those before the end of a month, i can see the people they can hardly with, with the circumstances we. we are thinking that someone should come on top of this, think of these, we should have support, what we believe, and everyone's like i said bus to evacuate the patient who gets more of him, you know, doctors nested to support us. and what we do once we faced it is like kidding a story. we know then what that it is very hyper or the patient that when we come get the skids, the kid we brought to the patient is body minima. because the equipment is i'm not there because it was, i'm not what we already exhausted without the tire. i think the system is collapsing almost collapsing we faced. we are still strong. we are fighting, brought a fight. that is because of the norm for being fired. the, we would know not the, the, the live, the patients, what the situation is. but that sort of thing. if anyone should just stand there and stop this genocide, they should still what's happening to the parents. this tend to the people to the
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kids. simply what's behind it should show it is a sad story. i can give you 70 percent of the internet. it's blood. tell me what the reason i'm not supposed to give you this. i would also have and how do you in that, if you will not get, you know, system or mother or father, they was in like, you know, the whole time, you know, was wide up and we got on the, you know, i am because i'm default because you know the kids, so what we see yet is hardy, but sometimes i prefer not to also know that he did not tell us about what's behind the story of the so i just so but it on just setting on because if you keep asking you come to continue operating on the word thing is this good. that's what the good place is. so it didn't want to just send them and say this is, this is what i'm trying to genocide, this has to be thought to talk to ahmed. thank you very much. very harrowing discussion, but thanks to all guess, talk to matt gilbert, the bell falls side and then goes to city don't to i'm it will come out to you, please stay safe to you if you want to see this. so any of our other programs, again, at any time you can you find them out as they were adult calm,
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