yes, to a policy of no 1st use symptoms the united states has so far rejected. but there's growing evidence that china is rapidly expanding. it's off no satellite imagery from 2 years ago shows the construction of expensive fields of icbm silos. the 3 limitations across china, china is not bones by the treaty limiting nuclear weapons production. and it's not estimated that it will have at least a 1000 of these weapons by 2030 putting on a par with russia and the united states. to land so will be returning to the polls next month to go to a new draft constitution. it's 6 to replace the current bill, which was written on the ministry dictatorship or latin america edits and the see and human reports from the capital santiago for the 2nd time in just over a year to lead into being presented with the text for a new constitution just when president covered in the body to try to mask his

disappointment with the right leading draft. my yeah, whatever the julian people's find those words were conceded are mechanisms inform us exactly. it looks like nobody will continue to be essentially institutional and democratic. the new and september last year, chileans rejected a draft charge for written primarily by left wing delegates, guaranteed social rights gender parity, abortion environmental protection, and much more. but for the majority, it went too far. this time the pendulum has swung to the extreme political right, which controlled the process with veto power. that was to this new constitution eliminates political debate. or 4 years ago, millions of julian's took to the streets to demand a new constitution to replace their current dictatorship era charter. then as now that are public health, education and pensions at the top of their demands, you have the new convention, couldn't resolve these fundamental issues. the issues that we have been trying to

put this kind of decision advocacy to charlotte. and it shouldn't be probably a good contact to charlotte, many a frustration and even embarrassed in 6 weeks to me as well. again, both in a referendum that according to post, is likely to reject this. they just attempt to give chilly a constitution that can unite the country. and if that is the case, there won't be another chance for a very, very long time to see a newman al jazeera santiago, but now to our coverage of the war on gaza. thousands of people around the world are continuing to take to the streets in support of palestinians and pockets stones capitalism about thousands. marsden solidarity to coal for an immediate cease fire . similar rabbits were held across the country. this is here with the challenges that are off to the bottom line to stay with us. um

it's the world slow down. we stand firm as homes with tips of global nichols reserves. indonesia is points to leave the global battery industries. we definitely manage our abundant resources and play a role in solar energy, harnessing offerings, 75 percent of global carbon credits essential, committed to environmental protection, enhancing investment climate, digital licensing, your better tomorrow? hi, i'm steve clements and i have a question. is real, is intensifying. it's a tax and the gaza strip and ruling out a ceasefire. but at what cost? and where does the palestine israel issue go from here? let's get to the bottom line, the israel's military response to him. us as a tac last month shows no sign of ending any time soon. more than 8500 palestinians have now been killed. and more than half of the guys,

the strips population has been displaced since october 7th when i'm off broke through the fence surrounding the gaza strip and killing hundreds of israelis and taking more than $200.00 captives as hostage is really forces have devastated the gaza strip by air, by sea, and by land for weeks and said they will, quote, continue and intensify until how mazda is eliminated. the united nation says that the humanitarian catastrophe is unfolding before our eyes, and palestinian hospitals are collapsing due to fuel shortages. meanwhile, american president joe biden to staunch the defending israel and calling civilian deaths, quote, the price of waging war and the conflict has gone global, with its effects being felt everywhere from soccer clubs, to university campuses. so where does it go from here? today we're talking with nico, paulette a former is really soldier who now advocates for peace and he's the author of the general sun journey. ivan is really in palestine mutual. thank you so much for joining us today. there is widespread support across the is really political

spectrum for current actions. you're a real stand out. tell us how you see things at this moment. to thank you for having me. i want to start out by saying that there was no how much their attack on october, the 7th of student fighters came out of the gaza strip. one of the most depressed and 4 places the face of the er, um and uh, after you know, decades and decades of, of suffering, uh, violence and brutality. not just a savagery at the hands of israel and a cruel uh and unreasonable, i need be less uh, a siege on the, on the gaza strip. they came out and they managed to uh, almost take over the, you know, half of half of what, what is israel today and to paralyze the state of israel for weeks. and so that i, that is, that is, i believe, a more, a more accurate description of what the place of the state of israel was caught off

guard is really military as been once again shown to be nothing more than a paper tiger. and now, because like, you know, like a gangster, there's been humiliated they're taking their vengeance on innocent civilians killing, you know, thousands upon thousands of civilians. um only for the sake of revenge, there's no strategy here. there's no real uh, there's no real understanding of how to solve. there's no, there's no real intends to protect these rarely so to speak, to provide safety. it's not a question of self defense, the question of brutality and revenge, because it was really aided and now they need to improve applying. so they're killing as many as soon as possible, which by the way, is not stopped to talk to your fighters from continuing to fight. and you know, the, they, they, they entered with brand forces just another day or 2 ago. and they've already got close to 10 or 12 is all the forces that have been uh, they have been killed. right. and i go, i, i have to just jump in. i mean, i, i need to be clear. i see it very,

very differently than you and this is an interview with you. but i also just want to say in terms of framing, you know, when i, i've been watching the israeli palestinian for relationship for a long time. i feel like the underlying tektronix has had been wrapped in a whole series of grievances and injustices. it's very hard for me to hear someone say these are freedom fighters, given the horror of what we saw on october 7th. there needs to be. this is part of a campaign to always pay the palestinians as a wild. you know, i'm civilized mob that will be had children and rape like women. none of that is true and many of the hundreds of his relatives that were killed were apparently now, according to his rarely testimony, according to the testimony of his rights who are on site. many of these relatives were killed or killed by israeli fire, by his really, by the israeli military itself. so we don't really know how many were killed if any, by the palestinian fighters accidentally headed. you know, you know, of course, you know, i've heard of children killing children is a terrible thing. but i want to point out here that when israel drops tons of bombs

on residential neighborhoods, you know, what do, what do we, what do you think happens to the children inside these homes? are they not beheaded? are they not? you know, this is about their little bodies destroyed. they're not die from the gases and the fumes in the fire. and not to mention yesterday we heard from dr. met skilled or that there are over 2000 testing and children and guys are missing. and you know, missing means missing that there is somewhere in the rubble and nobody can reach the. so that's even worse than the ones that have been killed. so the savagery here is not what we see on the palestinian side. the stories of savagery that will protect perpetuate in the beginning were proven to be live. we have seen a consistent, a consistent policy of savagery and murder of civilians, not to mention the heading of children. if you want to talk about that. i don't want to get to descriptive here. what happens with a foster as and so on when it falls on. i'm the small bodies of children, and we've seen this going on for decades. these are the savages didn't start on

october. the 7th, it's been going on for a very long time. so i think that it, in my opinion, at least as is a much more accurate description of what took place. we're gonna agree to disagree and that, but i am interested in a conversation that has begun to, you know, show, show some sprouts in washington and it, and it worries me a little bit it's, it's really about the day after what is the future of gaza look like what is the future palestine look like? what has to be there? i've been asking what about the day before this happened? because this was largely ignored conflict where people were not moving with ambition and purpose to figure out how the palestinian is really a situation could lead to something credible in solving when it came to a piece and the rights of palestinian. so, you know, that was the day before, let me, let me ask you how you measure what the day after needs to look like in terms of after this conflict, given the fact that there was so much just dropping it under the rug the day before

october 7th. yes i, i think you're right, this is the moment right now and i think nothing. i think this is an opportunity is all the pain and suffering in the heart of that is taking place in gaza. this is definitely an opportunity to grab the bull by the horns and to make real political demands real, to fight fight for real political games or to achieve real political games for the policy it ends once and for all. so that this does not happen again. if we're talking about tomorrow, we want to prevent this from happening again and you write the, the, this up, the fact that this was ignored in some how people expected is riley is particularly expected. they can go on living like this while people, millions of palestinians are being, you know, living under these har har after conditions. there's a few kilometers away, is not realistic. so what are we looking at? i believe it all depends on what kind of negotiations are going to take place. the problem is that the student issue is an orphan. there is no real policy and there is no organization. there are no countries that are supporting the costing and cause for freedom and justice. and so what needs to happen now is there needs to be

a demand, not just for us, these fires, these fires going to happen when the sides decide to stop fighting. what needs to be demanded right now is an absolute immediate and it to the see john guys are an absolute unconditional release. all posted in political prisoners and a demand for one person, one vote elections over all of the store of palestine to create a retail demarco democratic state all over is or palestine. nothing less than this . the past is approve of 2 things. number one, they are absolutely capable of characterizing the state of israel. and once again, i'll say a handful of fighters from one of the poorest, most oppressed places in the world, managed to paralyze the state of israel completely, or for, for a very long time. and the 2nd thing is the policies are made enormous are making enormous sacrifices once again. and so both of these things i think are deserving of upstairs attention and nothing less than an absolute final political solution in palestine is,

is required at this point. a movie and nighted states of mico is supporting israel's military campaign for the moment. and it is also saying it will not call for the ceasefire. just as a prime minister. netanyahu has said you, he will not engage in a ceasefire right now. and we are in the united states instead pushing humanitarian support. how do you see this us role and how do you see the humanitarian needs right now and how they might be better achieved? well once again, i mean this, i started with united states, united states have been complicit in the, and israel's genocide policies for a very long time. this is not you. they've been supporting it with arms and money and political a cover. so this is again, there's nothing new only that, that right now the tax is something much more savage than it's ever been before. um, again, i'll say what needs to be immediately demand. it is and, and immediate unconditional and to see john, gaza and immediately to the support humanitarian medical support for the

palestinians in, in, in every way that, that, that, that, that is needed. and that needs rebuilding hospitals. that means providing them all the medical needs that are required. rebuilding homes or buildings, you know, creating a, a reality that all students and guys are able to live a normal life. like 3 people anywhere else. you know 30 trucks or 20 trucks or 50 trucks or a 100 trucks and not going to solve the problem. you know, palestinians, the world has turned off students into beggars. and that's not to do any fault or there are, you know, they're turning policies are fuji's and into beggars costing in need. freedom. the conversation should be, how do we add the slaughter of the savagery by the state of israel that's been going on for 75 years. granted their ups and downs and the savage rate. but this is, you know, right. it's been savaging for 75 years. nothing less. how do we ended and demand and bring forward a real solution,

a real just solution. so that is rosenthal. students can live in peace and i'll say one more thing on the issue a piece. if we support the policy and call for justice and freedom is really the policy, it is will be able to live in peace and raise the children and have a future. if we support israel anyone's supports, israel is actually supporting the fight against justice. the fight against peace. so how do you actuate that in a, in a credible way? are there is really, is out there that, that believe what you believe and how do you bring them along. when i look at is really politics. you know, over the last 3 decades, particularly with price, a prime minister netanyahu, it is moved, not left, but it's move more and more, right, including in the, the current government. so how do you take some of the ideas that you're sharing today and say, well this is a very different formulation, but are there is really, is out there. is there any credible path politically to what you're suggesting?

now, a look. i don't think it likes in south africa, particularly keen on ending apartheid. but then there was a, there were severe sanctions. there were, there was a boy called again, south africa. there were, dies just the stairs, the investment from south africa eventually and the like. but a partner in south africa was on his knees. that is precisely what needs to happen with his role is no privilege society, oppressive society or oppressive regime has ever left willingly they have to be forced out. and so once again, what needs to be demand is immediate sanctions against the state of israel as relative diplomats, as like we've seen with the columbia. we've seen this now also, i believe with couple of other of the states and let america. and i'm sure there's going to be a trend. the diplomats uh there was really missions are closing there. the diplomats are being sent home. there should be, um, you know, the complete, you know, the boycott and his early teams and the lympics and, you know,

and any sporting events. and then the academic arena, diplomatic arena, so on the state of israel as we is no, has been charged by amnesty international to be, to be the accused of the crime of apartheid for 75 years. and as we know, the kind of apartheid is a crime against humanity. the, the, the amnesty report has some important recommendations that includes sanctions and include, you know, diplomatic and political of actions against the state of israel. that will bring it to the point where they have no choice, i don't believe is rather going to do this willingly. they don't need to do this willingly, that they need to be forced to, to allow for a real political solution. so real freedom and liberty, and again, understanding of that at the end of the day at the end of the day, a just solution to the palestinian uh for the past. and then people will benefit as realities as well. because again, it's not about israel is versus the palestinians. it's israel against these israel

again. suggest to lucian, israel again. screen of your one of the questions i have is about the rage felt after a terror attack. and i, and i know that you see it differently, but um, you know what i sort of saw 911 happened and i saw the united states react, and joe biden said, we over reacted. we acted in blind rage and he encouraged his real not to be blinded by the same kind of rage that in america is case let it down the wrong wrong direction and is real again after what it solves the horror on its borders along gaza. 1200 people that we now have around 200 people held hostage by home. us . how do you, in this moment, if you were to advise the government, if you have that opportunity, would you navigate this moment because there is just rage across is really society about what happened to them as well as ranges is, is, is completely, i, i just the fine, you know, if anybody should be outrageously,

it's the rest of the world that should be rates or should be range around the world against the tree to the palestinians. and guys gets accosted ins. warehousing is really prisons that against the fact that all students are denied water, not only and god, it's about throughout all the palestine is the fact that israel is killing palestinians in the west bank wholesale, the bank bodies through settlers and soldiers and so on. so i mean if there's any customer range, i believe the range would be on the other side. um, and if we want to talk about terrorism, and again, i'll argue on that to and once again, dropping a one time bomb on the building and killing civilians is, is an act of terrorism. when out of $200.00 people and full of fighters come out in order to take hostages in order to bring about the release of political prisoners, i don't believe that that is an act of terrorism. and regardless of how you frame it or what you call it, i don't know what kind of expectations people had the tossing is, will not engage in some sort of arm resistance being how they treated the way they

have them being killed in being, you know, they're the horrors i won't get into the harvest, but they've been going on for 75 years and they're well documented to expect the postings will not engage in some form of our existence is absolutely ludicrous. this is, this is, this is, and of course according to international lights, it's perfectly legitimate. if we're talking about acts of terrorism, or the last 75 years, actually i would talk about crimes against humanity. it was that far, it was it who has been engaged, not only in terrorism, is what has been engage in crimes against humanity. specifically, ethnic cleansing, specifically the crime of apartheid as has been, like i said, documented by the amnesty international reports, which for some reason the people who are, you know, very comfortably ignoring. and i will add it one step further and say as well as actually in being engaged in the crime of genocide or at least genocide policies, at least. so this is far worse than terrorism. and i think that again, dropping a one time bomb not to mention tens of hundreds of tons of bonds,

this is what has been doing on this civilian population and a particular population that has never had a military force. boston is or never had an army. they never had a tang. so to claim that that is somehow self defensive search, that is an act of terrorism, where people who are oppressed, come rise, and stand up even if they do so, holding arms that i reject completely the notion of that is about terrorism. let me ask you about the cast of characters that have long been involved in, in israel palestine affairs. what about turkey, china, other players in the world becoming part of that day after equation? that's a good question. i mean, like i said earlier, ball sign isn't all of the issue as an arson and what happened over the last 3 years. so decades of all these countries that were traditionally supportive of the boston and cause the bricks alliance. for example, most of the countries within the bricks alliance and others are now all doing

business with israel. they're all doing trade with israel. they're all buying weapons because, you know, you know, africa and it was traditionally a continental continental corner of the prostate. and cause are now, you know, is it has more than 40 diplomatic missions and it's pushing to become a part. or if it's an observer in the african union, and they're being allowed to do this. and of course that is a very serious problem. i think it's less important who the players are and more important, but the content is, people need to understand the world needs to understand. and i think we're seeing this now on the streets and we're seeing all these, you know, massive protests and the streets. and the costs are just as the calls for justice aren't clear. you can either have justice or you can have the state of israel, state of israel, my, these are the people, the state of israel needs to go. the state of israel is an apartheid state. it needs to be replaced with a free democratic state of palestine. you know, free palestine free democratic palestine on all historic palestine. one person, one vote elections and we have, you know, we've seen this happen. we have

a roadmap, we've seen, you know, stashes dicks of tauriel and, and apartheid regime in south africa fall and be replaced by the by, by democratic governments by democracies. so we've seen it happen many times before and we need to follow the same. the roadmap is there's nothing that needs to be reinvented here. the issue is nobody is willing to stand up and say we, the state of israel is precisely the problem. it's not an occupation, it's not there's, it's not the other. it's the state of israel. it's an apartheid state. it is the obstacle to peace. it is the obstacle to justice. now ask them members of the media as voters, we need to speak up and we need to make it clear to our elected officials. you cannot stand up and support zionism because on. ism is racism. it's a racist ideology. and we demand no tolerance, the racism as consumers of other media when we see a lot of, you know, all the big names out there in the, in the corporate media. um, you know,

the idolizing that's anyhow idolizing the state of this deal. we need to demand that they stop. right now we need to demand or they stop. this is on acceptable to allow a job in our interview with benjamin. it's in the, our not challenge him on the fact that he's murdering innocent civilians. all of his, you know, rhetoric about his being 911 and the holocaust is completely completely, you know, mythical. not to say, you know, uh, an up see lie. right? it's really grotesque to hear what they're saying about what happened on october. the 7th, in terms of, you know, their perspective is israel is the government of israel failed to defend its own citizen. the state of israel has been failing to defend all the people that governs which includes his rise and cost and ends. and it's time for different political perspective. it's time for a real free palestine, it's fine to dismantle the apartheid state. right, and replace it with a free democratic palestine. let me ask you a final question. i'm interested in what's happening in the united states and your

perspective of it. i know you're in jordan right now, but if you look at the broad cross section of politics in america, democrats on the whole, and republicans support uh, bb, netanyahu support israel in this moment of crisis. but if you look at layer beneath that, jo biden's, popularity has decreased 11 points among democrats. you have protest around american colleges and universities that are basically supporting the policy and cause they are, they are say, it sounds a lot like you from abroad. does america look different and less and more divided than you've seen in the past? because you've been at this for a long time, but you've seen greater divisions. you see a soul searching in the united states over these issues that you might not have seen before. what i didn't say in the united states and what i've been sitting in europe a project, you know, all over europe actually is something very interesting. there is the growing is a, there's a growing, popular support for the cause of justice in palestine and fees and tell us the and

it, and deliberation for cost in it. however, we see that the governments like in the us in the u. k, it's rotted and throughout europe are all standing with israel and there's this mass of the gap between the popular support and the demand of the constituents and the elected officials. and somehow the demand for free palestine, the demand to stand with palestine is not being heard in the halls of power. and i've seen that as a failure of us as constituents or failure or failure as motors that this important message is not getting through that they are, they're ignoring our calls. they are ignoring our demands and going on with the support for israel. and i think we need to regroup. part of it is because, like i said, there's no parent, there's no organizational structure that supports the posting and cause, and there's no real estate today. that's the part, the cost, the cost. so we as citizens, we as constituents, must make it clear to our elected officials, that this will no longer stand. there will no longer be any tolerance for

politicians, supports israel, but we'll have to leave it. there me go, pell. it is really american peace activist and author. thank you so much for being with us today. absolutely, thank you. so what's the bottom line? history shows it every big jump forward in peace. separates between palestinian and israeli leaders happened after violent clashes were many people died. but was this because each side realized the death and destruction is futile? no, that's just not how the world works. it was because the palestine is real. conflict became strategically consequential. when it grows in scale, it drags great powers into direct conflict, potentially, palestinians. it is released can never reach a stable, long term solution on their own. in my view, and i used to really hate that worn out phrase, the president brock obama and his secretary of state. john kerry would say, we can't one piece more than they do. the truth is the exact opposite. if americans and europeans, and maybe the turks and the chinese and other stakeholders, find

a way to be better and more fear brokers. maybe they can come help each other wise western powers can keep turning a blind eye to this conflict. only for the blast as way back into the world, the consciousness again and again and again. and that's the bottom line, the 802-0000 industries. 1.4000000 people just placed the we were just effective for sure. community and goals are being targeted. no one is saying everyone in the water

is life. but in palestine it's an instrument of occupation. with is a way of controlling the majority of palestinian water resources and destroying hundreds of sanitation structures. simians are being deprived of a universal human rights. people in power investigates with an isaac walter in palestine on a jersey to work out of their existence. it slowed ship as a principal present as a correspondence with any breaks in the store. we want to hear from those people who was normally know get that forces on the international news channels. one moment tommy, very proud, all was when we covered the pool last week of 2015 at the terrible natural disaster stuff. and the story that needed to be told from the hall of the affected area to be then to tell the people story. it was very important at the time with

deaf investigations give compelling science inter toes to from asia and the pacific one. 0 one east. on out just sierra, the house on this structure was actually destroyed in 2003. and the reason for that is that far a honeyed was actually convicted and sentenced to 7 live sentences by his part in the killing of his right. and soldiers with these res, this is a came in here. and this now very small hole actually represents a nightmare. for this family, let me just show you these rand. he's actually drilled into the wall. now, why did they do that? the testing the thickness of the walls. so they know what equipment to use when they come to demolish this house. and the family is telling us there was no reason for these raise to come in to that house at this time. right now,

they simply don't know why he's right. he's one to 2 months now. this house could be demolished in the next 2 hours in the next 2 weeks. they simply don't know when that demolition is going to come. the . this is walter months of war. looks like as strikes, pound goes up the another, not israel says they'll be no c, spine, or supplies of fuel. so if a mass releases its capital, the carry johnston, this is out this era wedlock and also flags on the gauze. the sky line as well as

military says it's fighting in the depths of kansas city and in circling the north .