just a document to the light hearted look not from this trip, but since it is rarely from bob and to be done, they become the eyes and is on the ground for many across the world. they belong to report. from sharing the everyday life of a distinctive and ancient culture to documenting death and destruction. life for these young palestinian content creators has been up ended before the war. they gave us a glimpse into a besieged land. a 25 years of age he signed his showed everyday life for young women and gaza. say a thing. does that come to the complex force for women? 22 year old class, the all the cars until now her young life with dedicated to advancing women's education and motiv advisor is 24 years of age for the palms. he gave us a color for a picture of god with you. what's your favorite meal? june, drop it on and before they like the most so. but then one day it'll change for bees on plus the motors also in

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reserves. indonesia is points to leave the global, the battery industry. we definitely manage our abundant resources and play a role in solar energy. harnessing offerings, 75 percent of global carbon credits essential submitted by mental protection, enhancing investments, alignment digital licensing, your better tomorrow as a warrant that enters its 5th week. we turn to the west bank where violence from these rarely military and settlers has surged in recent weeks. palestinians are facing increased economic and movement restrictions and many have taken to the streets and express their anger towards both the occupation and the palestinian authority. coming up, we'll discuss the situation in the west bank with the palestinian basket or to the united kingdom. but 1st, as united states continued to support israel and dismissed calls for a cease fire humanitarian situation in gaza worsens by the day. i'll talk to the former us ambassador to israel under president donald trump. this week's headliner,

even fried the david friedman. thank you so much for joining me on upfront. my pleasure, david, following the horrific a mazda attack of october, 7th, and left 1400 israelis did. many of them civilians. israel has been relentlessly bombing the gaza strip. the bombing in the sea just entering its 5th week more than 10000 people have been killed, including more than 4000 children of fuel and electricity have been cut for weeks now. and the enclave infrastructure is buckling. numerous human rights groups have repeatedly said the israel's actions could amount to war crimes or acts of collecting punishment, which of course are legal under international law. again, for masses targeting civilians and the taking of civilian hostages is unjustifiable in a clear violation of international law within our israel's actions to end. but by providing weapons 8 and political support, the israel is united states complicit

a mortgage. it was not committee any work crimes at all and you know, under international law, israel has the right to defend itself. i think everybody agrees, i think everybody agrees that is what has the right to eradicate from us. how much has embedded itself within a civilian population. i mean, this is a cynical and a horrible organization. i'm sure you recognize that. and if you say that israel can't defend itself, but they can't attack, come us. then when you're really saying is that israel has no right or ability to exist because they don't eradicate, but they're not as long as you for a 2nd. very good. just to be clear that while you're in that you're interrupting. no, no, no, you missed representing my my, my statement. i didn't say that is one of them right to defend itself. the question is, this is, is we're committing war crimes, the right to defend one's self is not unlimited under international law. and so the question is, outside of this thing, we have the right to defend ourselves. is it a work? i'm you said the international community agrees the ministry community doesn't in fact, agree. uh, none of the that,

that the international community agrees that is what has the right to attack come us, okay, period. i don't think anybody disagrees with that. i don't think there's a single nation in the strep throat, and that's a strong man. no, no, no one is arguing that they don't have an actor as mark. the question is, do they have a time produced or what type of conversation i'm trying to, what i'm saying is i that's what it would destroy me. i don't want to waste your time debating whether or not it doesn't right, the defendant, so we agree that it has the right to defend itself against a mazda or to respond to this attack. that's not what's in dispute. the question is, are the, are the attacks, proportionate, are the attacks, this sufficiently discriminant, i e, not attacking civilians when it's avoidable? are they not attacking target that are deemed on target of all by international law? these are the questions, different give you one example, and i love your response and this certainly you called israel's bombing of the body of records. you can't quote a brazen violation of international law and a war crime. so clearly that as a community isn't an entire agreement with you here. a yeah, look, mark i,

you know, i don't really care what the union says. i mean, the human has not been fair about this issue for the last 50 years. here. here is the reality under international law. israel as a right to attack, come us under international law when you attack an enemy, when you a target anatomy, to the extent that there was collateral, the against the civilians. it's not a guess, mark, you interrupted apart my question, what lot, what law you said in what law? i said under incident under the international laws of war. what is the 5 years? what is your national? i'm asking because i'm appealing here. it's what things, what international rules of war say that you get a tax come off in the way that they hi, this is real estate, has which one? everyone every single of words, i need the best. not an honest answer which one different international law does it make it once the international law is not a magic, but which international law is there is there is, there is a body of international law that deals with collateral damage. israel is not targeting a single civilian,

they're targeting come us wherever they identify from us. they attacked how much. if a boss is embedded with children, israel with everything, it can to avoid those casualties. i've been in the war room. i've been in the war room when israel has attacked. how much back in 2019. okay. i saw the pains that they take to avoid civilian casualties. israel has no interest. they have no upside and a tactic. children is the worst thing that can happen to them in this battle because they've been results and international handcuffs been placed under battle. it's not what israel is. okay, so to the extent that they were casualties of war, yes, there are casualties. we work in every single work. there were casualties right now going on in ukraine and russia. i don't hear anybody screaming and yelling about to get the civilian casually. so a lot more showed active at the end in russia. okay. oh so, so a couple of it is true, it is true. it's a couple of them. nobody, nobody's writing on college campuses about your brain to rush it right now. let's, let's be on. okay, so just for clarifying purposes. numerous members of the international community

clean the un, have absolutely spoken about the vision civilian casualties in ukraine. i agree with you, but they're not marginal cost campuses in the same way. i, i, we can see that when would you say it was gonna ask me to say nothing about russia's war, cries is absolutely and factual. but you said something else that i think is, is also interesting. you said that there's collateral damage in all war and that a body of international laws which is still haven't named any say that collateral damage is permissible with a more. i agree, the collateral damage is permissible with the organ that's not in dispute within dispute is whether civilians can be deemed sufficient collateral damage or whether civilians can be dealt with in the realm of, of the target. if it's avoidable, targeting a refugee camp jabante refugee camp is not an example of target come off and there's just a few casualties targeting a records you can't, where there are children targeting hospitals, and mosques and churches are all direct violations of international law. despite

the fact that you keep saying that it isn't and, and we can move on because i don't again, i, there are lots of things that we don't know. some of that. let's talk about, let's not move on. let's, let's not, let's not, let's say, right, uh, so tell me, tell me which hospital tell me which hospital that israel has targeted. tell me which one you said is real target hospitals. the only hospitalized like i targeted . so i was targeted by islamic jihad. okay. okay. don't tell me about it by the way, but of course i'm happy to answer the question just because it's been proven with certain things for approval. is certainly that the headquarters of how much is under the i'll she for hospital in does the city now you know what happened a couple of days ago the hallmark are you there? let me finish the i cannot remember the name to say 15 things on fax will not be challenged on them. i'm happy to let you talk, but i want to as part part of the was factual, was some aspects i spend the odd years of my life study is giving it what was the last time, what was left time you and as a mark, what was the last time you're a guy 18 months ago. the time you weren't got that um

a few a few years ago. okay, so you said i'll see for hospital it's been approved, been a mosque headquarters. what ended up just a reference, what source, what investigation has proven that have proven that it's an algebra hospital since it's been approved in fact, who proved it. ok. so now we're going to get into this basic like thomas cost, an idea that that evidence is really shown is not valid. i mean, is that what you're doing? the, everybody that challenges you is not doing a holocaust denial. you said that it's a how mosque headquarter. i simply asked, curious, i said, we ask you for evidence of it. i said, oh, and you immediately pointed to the holocaust denial. israel has present the evidence asked by the c. i ask, ask if anybody asks the you don't try to you don't trust the government, the government you don't trust me is really government. fortunately, trusts how much you want to transform us. go ahead. trust them. ok. the people,

the people that destroyed that they royalty the point that treatment. here's the great and here's the point under article 8 of the rooms that you in under article 33 of the 1949 geneva convention international law forbids the targeting of civilians. do you disagree with it? i don't disagree with that at all. okay. would you agree that targeting a refugee camp that has children in it, and adults who are not, how much members who are not actors in the military would, would, would constitute targeting a civilian i completely disagree with that completely disagree. it is realistic if it's realist targeting, come us in a refugee camp, and it's, and it's pinpoint that gets impacts on how much and there is collateral damage. does collateral damage. that's more, that's called more w a r. that's what it is. so here's the challenge, david. israel argues that from us is everywhere in guys that they're under every

hospital that they're in every university that they're in, every refugee can you agree with that? right? we can agree to that now is real, does not think they're everywhere. israel thinks that they are where they are and, and there are, those are in many but not all civilian locations. so the challenge is by that logic, virtually every civilian location is vulnerable and viewed as a legitimate target. and so what happens is thousands of innocent people died again when you bomb a refugee camp. there's no reason to believe that it's the only way that get out of mass target when a hospitalized bomb. there's no reason to be that's the only way to do this. and if you know that the clinical collateral damage, you call it is thousands of civilians, then yes, it seems like an improper thing. but again, it's not just me saying this, the you, when the international red cross all of these bodies, including outside of the human who you said you don't respect, they also agree that these are war crimes. so why does the entire international community believe that he's a workmans and not you?

so because i, i think i have an unbiased view and i think there's a lot of anti semitism in the world. okay. there's a lot of anti israel behavior in. well, let me ask you a question. mark is what gets attacked the worst attack since the holocaust by a bunch of barbarians. okay, we all agree. the barbarians take a run back across the board or they take $240.00 hostages and they started and bedding themselves with civilians. that's it. they want how much wins? that's a corner here. they are they what? everyone are they civilian? yeah. locations as appointments come us when it's a great, that's a great template for the rest of the world that's gonna result in the destruction of america and europe, and all these adults, nations, because it's, it's a great way for terrorist at the feet. the peace loving people of the world. tech. great, very you. now that except you realize that everything you just said every, every point you just disapproved. i never say that again, an a strong man. what i'm saying is that it, what, what are the saying rather than what you just put in my mouth, which wasn't true, is that it's not a binary. so it's not a binary choice. we have to chose between letting a mazda whatever they want,

and bombing innocent children. we can be strategic, we can, we can be thoughtful and we can follow international law, which says that you can't blow up math, and you can't blow up a cultural site. you can't blow up churches, right? this is international law. there are numerous people, numerous organizations, a numerous laws and treaties that reinforce this belief. and it's for good reason. and i'm not saying it because of think i've, i've seen the same thing in his room that you're, you're not, you're not addressing. you're not addressing the circumstances which are present to you are in abundance that terrorists and bed themselves in mosques and hospitals. in schools. there been rocket launchers in mosque, rocket launchers and schools. i mean, you know, you're focusing on a hypothetical set of principles of international law that says dump on hospitals dump bump schools, dump on mosque. i agree, we shouldn't boss we shouldn't because we shouldn't, but i'm churches unless, unless there are terrorists in there that are trying to kill you, in which case the rules change. and then israel on top of that will do everything

you can to warn people, you've seen all the warnings your issue to the times of israel. there's a guy on the phone with israel for 15 hours trying to negotiate and find ways to move civilians out of harm's way, is what this everything i can to move civilians out of harm's way. i mean they're, they're doing the best because they've proven thanks. so much for joining me on upfront. thanks mark, appreciate it very much. the israel continues this bombardment of gaza. violence against palestinians in the west bank is escalating human rights groups save at settlers and military forces. the lights are using the cover of this war to step up their ongoing campaign. a little attacks on palestinian communities is really is conducting ratings and airstrikes. and what it says are attempts to root out possible melting groups, as the territory buckles under military locked down. with us to discuss the situation, the west bank is the palestinian authorities ambassador to the united kingdom, who sams on his i'm thank you for joining us on upfront. hello, mark,

thank you for having me and good to see absolutely of violence towards palestinians in the west bank has surge since her master's attack escalating what was already the deadliest year since the united nations began tracking in 2005 settlers and is really forces of killed at least a $155.00 palestinians, including $41.00 children. they've also injured more than $2200.00 more is really forces are carrying out raids and airstrikes and they've placed the west bank under military lock there, which makes it extremely difficult for residents to leave their cities in their towns. but help me understand a bit more about what's going on on the ground as well. what is going on in the ground has been going on for a long time. mark, you've seen the expansion of this illegal colonial settlements. you have seen the check point is the, was the infrastructure built to allow these colonial cities now to actually be connected to the design and insight in the,

the main urban centers of the city and people in the now we are faced with a very organized circular munitions, who have been on that on page over the last couple of years. but particularly since the visual and goes have begun, they took that, not only for my initial point of view, but from a political point to view because they have the most, as under my says of the senior ministers and the government. you know, this government has made of civil and legal settlers including small fish and being very good and let them know i'm sort of as the big back of the supplement exercise of the world. i've seen that been via who was a convert, a convicted dentist a and is a court up even in the international court vending machine guns over the last few weeks since the war them guys will be gone to a set of those and civilians. and that is on is what you just described, a huge number of unprecedented mothers and can and we'll find a southern civilians under was bank a tax all over the villages,

a whole groups and ever since sitting far on homes shops cause include including the shut off only a few days ago, and many other towns and villages on the west bank and the, and the plan is very clear. the plan is to terrorize the population and to continue what they have begun to 19 for, to hit. and here the link between the west bank and gaza and here is a mistake or any want to discuss because a nice selection of the us bank of the west bank, including of course you will send them a nice solution with garza and let me just confirm that what is what is doing now in gaza? mark is the on of the 1940. it's not the right word that this could get even worse . i mean, according to, according to the un daily settler text in the west bank have doubled in the weeks following the october 7th events. ultra nationalist that lives in the west bank have driven out entire villages. they've killed at least 8 palestinians and human rights organizations, a warning that the focus on gaza is being used as a kind of pretext to drive people out of the villages, as you've pointed out,

very similar to the neck but of 1948. in fact, people have received arabic language leaflets that warn palestinians that quote, this is their last chance to fleet of jordan before quote, we forcefully expelled you from our holy land saying you wanted a neck, but like in 1948 and we will bring down on you a big catastrophe soon. this seems potentially worse than anything we've seen since 1948. is that an overstatement? the north is not, but the only thing that i would add it's not the using garza to gas lights or the slate. no, no dogs just doing this in, in the west bank and goes on the very same plan. they're pushing the bodies and people defined a study and people then some that since the very beginning of the aggression we have been saying and warning everybody. this isn't the one on how much this is a war on dependence putting on people. this has to finish off the unfinished business, what they have been describing some today. we have munitions in the west bank.

distributing get leave spreading fear, attacking communities as a whole, but these communities that would have to be forced out of their homes. and then the old, the settlers legally living in the occupied territories would actually take over their homes as and physically live in their homes as we did in 1948. so why is this way of doing this? it is definitely to categorize the entire nation. the whole people goes off bush, them out to what site and i was on one of the ways that the palestinian people now are supported in their efforts to resist is through the palestinian authority, the ph president before i bath. so that the pillow is the sole legitimate representative of the palestinian people. but there are many palestinians as you know were unhappy with president i bass one palestinian asked. where are they when we need them? when settlers attack us in the fields or on the roads earlier this year, just 19 percent said they trust in fetter. and the majority said that the p a

should actually be dissolved given the high level of mistrust. and the fact that the p a has not had a presidential election since 2005 should the p a or should the p l o be the representative of all the house. and if it was a fair to say that you're the representative of all the palestinian people to, you'll have to number one, the 1st of the bus is lifted by has movement. that is factor that was founded by him on the, on the, the lit president. yes. auto thought and many of the creeds, that's the national movement that has really turned us from, refuses to freedom fighters, snatch that equal petition from the entire world when we were absolutely disappearing off the ball, forward to hit and forced up on the study. as i have one voice, one, flag, one i that is one minute presentation. now this is a must, this is the biggest achievement of the point of study and people definitely have one voice. and we will not allow anybody to come to mind that this is different than individuals and personalities. we. there are many nations who have absolutely

vanished from us because they wouldn't believe this because they have no national institutions to, to present them. and the me stop to this. thank you. all, many people, it has 3 is forms of people who are often politically been edited. so the most important thing that we speak in one voice. yes, there are concerns the demands we need to reform. we need to bring all of the presentation to the most democratic values, understand that's, that's all understood. and we must do that. however, one thing, the baby with the bucket of the piano premier is the, the, as the umbrella for every boddeson in organization. and you know, this is about making sure that at least you enable your people to stay on and steadfast. however, the issue of who need the amount of spending and people is a palestinian, find a study, an issue, meaning the policy and people are saying they're dissatisfied with the p a. they're saying they want it to dissolve this thing. they don't trust that. but most of the, this obviously because they don't just imagine that, but what they're saying,

we don't trust things. i mean my question to you is only how strong can a mandate be if many people are saying, hey, we have skepticism, we have this trust. we want to change, you know, i've seen the, i've seen the opening and polls about within the hour. and as i learned the last few days, i've seen the poems about bite and, and he has scored the lowest. i'm on even his own, his own party. so this is not the discussion and the point of study and people on the most horrific of taxes by doing for the date. and this is not know about punish putting in front of the main differences. this is about the importance of that unity. we already would like to buy or pressured by the facts about our friendship, and we are invited by our goal is to liberate dollar cents and get the best occupation we audio not to as a people. and we do have a point to come system doctor to present all of us. i'm going to send you as i do, and i did, and we have an address. and this address has committed to it. the emotional consensus on the solutions for safety is and this evidence has even recognized as the 30 years ago. and this address is committing to them by that's on the brochure

issue. and this, this is where the book once that is enough to commit to any sufficient commitment that this is the way for all of us. if this auditors believes that this is not possible, that this is not them because i believe, you know, i tell you the piano has know a very important cross cultural crestwood will afford to decide on next me how do we protect all people? the apartments are just protecting people outside of harvest, protecting dies, and the reason why i was asking about leadership partly is because there's been a lot of speculation about who would govern guys if a mass were defeated. the u. s. of course has been pushing for the p a to take on a leadership role. it seems unlikely. israel wants to handle control anybody, much less. the p a on monday is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu said that israel would control the enclave for an indefinite period. taking on quote, the overall security responsibility,

because we've seen what happens when we don't have what some fear is that the gaza strip is going to be reoccupied. and partly how is gonna be reoccupied is by people pointing to an extensible leadership get. what do you make of it? you know, money money, say the day after and is i'll uh, is waiting. who's gonna take over? who's going to control number number one, no interest control. no one can control only the one entity that can be in because it is an entity that can provide protection for its people not control of its people. that's number one. number 2 is one is not interested in define the single thought of the company back together. i showed you 100 percent that i'm not interested, you know, what? because they know the coming back of the national institutions would actually bring back to the, for the state of fund this time. the unity of the of it on the paper as mine has been so either month invented in the pot, a study and division until they list 2 examples. mark, you know the examples over the last few years, you know what nothing else has been doing to maintain the division. this is

margaret brown to talk about to this is the time to say it's the oldest folk, oldest discussion about the day off the is used to create schisms and typically attention and find a spot. and among punishment is we don't need, it's only only a mistake to find a start can take over. we have learned the lesson a was a little fast, come the end. don't walk your position in klt and go because god has been on. but off your vision since old school and since 16 years ago is what i just remove that sense. but controlled every single aspect of the people who does the movement that they can go to the electricity and you know that as the less therefore, this is a problem when we focus on bringing a momentum to and as a result your patients and the study and people have their institutions to find a study and people have the state, the amount of study and people have the zip, tennessee. it's only the us and the okay. and the west who has not come along the legitimacy and who would want to find the body shop solutions. they have no part of

the form that they will not have a partner for the house. i'm gonna thank you so much for joining us in upfront. all right, everyone, that is our show upfront. we'll be back next week the to me and tell the inside the collateral of this massive is really a top sirens going off, warning citizens that are heading this way from even the hospitals. i know you're protected from the is what am good with homeless. several 100 people and the numbers are growing all the time to the victims of the attack. a lot to the hospital and god is requesting congress, provide a 100000000000 and security funding for 6 meetings. still no resolution still no unified

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