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the latest news as it breaks within 24 hours to relentless, definitely attack on a small refugee camp in the valley with detailed coverage and to the blinking talked to these really, essentially what he said, if what happens continues to happen, they're not going to be many partners for peace from around the world. they want a tire in gaza. want to manage here in april and they want the us to stop the funding is the human cost of israel's war on garza is beyond calculation lies. most families destroyed tens of thousands injured. but what about meeting normally it costs and who will pay for israel contribute and the thing to rebuild $3.00 inches devastated bytes, palms. this is inside store, the
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hello the i'm james bay's, the situation in gaza has become so bad that hell forward his conch temp, the dead because israel is attacked communication networks. no financial figure can ever be put on the lives lost. all the many, many palestinians injured buys, riley problems and bullets weapons supplied by the u. s. u k. in the countries, the economic cost of israel's relentless on sloth is not yet known. but there's no doubt it will be a mens media from around the world trying garza as a place of auto devastation, but that mosques is vibrant community and is resilience forward from years of his radio still a t blockades and attacks and it's reflected in gauze as businesses vital for its people like the health service, both sectors have been in the following line, and the destruction is affecting. everyone knew about you've done it. so it goes to
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the bizarre. there's a shortage of brad's, gaza has been without health tricity for a month to can live without electricity. we have no fresh wolf for everything. and because i was running out electricity brands, everything because of the suffering of the world was watching for how long for how long another figured i was trying to do. but now we've been up since doing queuing for bridge. we go out in the morning to charge, i'll find batteries and find food for our children. we can't bear any more. this. how long do we have to live like this? none of the arab leaders cares. no one cares about us. you know, we lived out of town and all my and there's no water in the school, sewage, 7 or wherever. we're surrounded by dirt, none of these bathrooms work. none of these restrooms. i clean and there's no food and nothing to drink. what should we do? what should we do? find a solution for god's sake. we need a ceasefire. while the u. n is released to report on the impact of israel's war on the policy and people in both garza and the west bank. it says the physical destruction is causing an internal make disaster. i think off the one months of
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this war now on folding. first of all, what is client is at on top of the humanitarian crisis that the world has seen on fold in gaza. right now. we also have beginning to see that the development crisis that follows the increase in poverty rates and the loss of gdp, the destruction in terms of infrastructure, housing units to well, let's take a look at some of the findings of that you and development programs report. it says, ready strikes, have destroyed or damaged nearly haul off of old houses in garza and 1500000 promised indians, many of whom are already refugees of being forced from that homes. more than 40 percent of schools, colleges and universities have been damaged or destroyed, meaning $625000.00 students have no access to education. 2 thirds of gauze as hospitals and health care centers to being forced to shut down. many were directly
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targeted by his right strikes in 5 weeks about 390000 palestinians have lost their jobs and properties projected to sol between 20 and 45 percent of the un says if the will continues into a 3rd month. unemployment will nearly double pushing an additional $660000.00 people into poverty. well, let's discuss all of this symbol with all panel of gas and dough. how we have time a con moved. he's from garza and his assistant professor of public policy at the bow institute for graduate studies. in istanbul, we have, hey, lean sarah, tom turkish for him. policy specialist, an associate professor of international relations at the a symbol, me down to eat university. and also in doha salton, barbara cast a professor of public policy at the haven't been kelly for universities. also the also of the report off to the conflict reconstruction and development in the optim
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off of will we clearly have the right experts to discuss this subject. but before i talk about the devastating economic effects, i think we need to remember that the death toll is continuing to mount time up to you 1st, a really grim moment, i think in a, in this conflict. because for the 1st time, the ministry of health and garza, because of the situation in the hospitals and garza city because of the communication problems, they not been able to update the death toll of figures. so for now it seems the dead in gaza on people being counted. hey, jim split suddenly. yes, that's a, that's the reality now. and doesn't. there is no communication with the ministry of health or with hospitals. and the situation is obviously very direct stream diet. and by this and also more or less the national
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community so far it has failed guys and many times to bring the ceasefire uh on the entrance of necessity aids on even helping create things safe. uh, you might have been quoted, those for about a student has to be able to leave or evacuated and name it. it's a, it's a, it's, you know, to be up on a scene and in these modern times it's um, it's something hot, but i've seen a lot of pain. got a really heavy price on how difficult is it for you coming from gaza watching this from a fall because these are family and friends? yes. you and try many friends personally, i've worked the almost 70 dozen guys with the united nations development program which has which its own at the corporate. so i've been bumped through the, it's look at the mix of ship house, but the had been in charge of measure the construction projects and they've got the script. i have seen the peaceful times of gaza and i've seen also,
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and i've left conflict. and deconstructing also times and gaza. so i know i know every aspect of it. i know that the self funding people went through and i know also that human leaping situation and, and you wouldn't get fixed of your commission, which never brought any sense of normality to guidance to salt on when we look at the devastation, the humanitarian part of united nations as 45 percent of garza's homes that might have been destroyed or damaged. and then we look, we see those pictures of people who are moving with small backpacks moving from one part of garza to another. not knowing what anywhere is safe, trying to find some sort of shelter. the current, if it goes up from the un, are over 1500000 people internally displaced. but i've also seen reports that these rated government, they were told it's 1700000. yes, well it could be, i mean, to figure out whether it's $1.00 or $1.00,
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it's beyond the ability of any nation to the immediate, the rebuild advocate so far they measures the needs of these populations even when you have your borders often and you have the international community coming to your house. we just need to look at how long it took a can just like cherokee to recover from. they meet at the aftermath of the earthquake or morocco recently. and measure are going to be in the context of guy. so the biggest problem with always remain the daughter siege of the of the area is rather continues to hold the control over the aerospace, the waterways and the o. access from the sea and, and land. and will make it difficult as we have older, with just admitted to impossible for him and to and assistance to come. and as soon as they start thinking of free building, they will come in also to make it very, very difficult for material and goods to come in for the purpose of reconstruction . ethics is one of the reasons why in your introduction you refer to the cumulative
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damage and gossip that some of the damage that's occurred as a back in 2009 is still being dealt with. it hasn't taught to the cupboards from that for now. not to mention the bombings that followed in 2014 to 2021 and so on. so we have a unique situation in the world where you have a population. now 2200000 people or 2500000 people in a very dense does the populated area where their own and to be who is subjecting them to this violence is also being asked to help in its reconstruction. we can discuss this maybe in more detail later in the, in our discussion. i mean, um, you know, you heard the salt on talked about the example. so we will remember earlier this year of that was quite, that struck syria and to kia. that was an a pulling natural disaster here we have
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a humanitarian emergency where things are continuing and those trying to flee of being targeted. and that targeting continues. yeah, i 2 months and years you previously in turkey and it's not already settled in the us play songs to reconstruct the cities to turn the in bay of living into a normal situation. and emotionally, people aren't. there was faces as well. anything in such places. so i can't imagine what the people in gaza are feeling and you know, going to in these very difficult days. a porter, that's the case. and this has been the case for a 1000 people for so many years. it's just a conflict more than 75 years. and as for several times they went to such kind of crimes, such the fx, x, x, y, a prime. and unfortunately, we are,
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which is the and one of them, again, time a, we're talking about the destruction that we're seeing, the pictures we're seeing buildings gone, a wasteland. i've been interested in your when you look at those pictures, what is a golf and do you think because then not just buildings, all they've, this is the history. this is the culture of the heritage of gauze at this being destroyed. of course it is. i mean, i mean obviously is what i need is uh, uh, demolishing. i mean prospects for uh, for uh, you know, uh for the guidelines to uh, to come back to resilience to themselves. i mean, when you look at the scale of this destruction and knowing that the guys a is an open data presence and think leaves on every piece of uh, every meat that will cement every house every. the 7 facility as it rolled up is
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being, has been demolished so far that the sticky speaking, reconstructing guys after this world in, in the norman setup with the axis of aids, is not gonna stick to it. it's like that is what it has. no, everything, uh, a good thing over aid, it might fit use, you know, i mean, as, as mike, when he from 30 said, i mean even in 13 which is a normal country, which has also to see best assistance and, and have from many other nations been coping with doctor math of this quick, what we're seeing does isn't f work with as a man made disaster by these ladies. and for me it's, it's, it's, i mean, i, i, again, i mean to, to, to discuss the future of guys and the possibilities of reconstructing it. it's hard to talk about it without stopping discussing the scenarios on how this will when ends in gaza. because then when i come from a knowing days that i use a know so the complicit position of the community,
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including many doughnuts don't provide the assistance of the students on select to be sure was where money should go and what it should not go uh this this, i mean, it all depends really on, on how, what did this, what end. i mean if it ends with i'm still empowered. i think the misery will continue and i have to say it's a lump lead. uh because uh, it's what i will be. what have up in front of the process so far, what they have publicly the clear visit i it is the the that the and visit a future without thomas, i don't think don't be able to achieve it. but the thing is, if this war ends with the same pri, best at the school, plus the best destruction and loss and live and isn't it like getting to meet then still control of i need to tell people such a positive. we're talking about even a more than just sit on your of doesn't being emptied slowly from its own people because the living conditions and invitations. the,
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it's what i would put on the touch of the construction process would make it so hard for people to stay for long and wait for a to come and do that again. i need my life again. so time we clearly don't know how this is going to end, but i do think we probably reached a pretty important stage in this halfway not now. because israel has seems to have succeeded in shutting down the hospitals. in ga, the goal is to city the last place is of care and refuge in the north. and we're now seeing these thousands of people have been intimidated to leave homes. one assumes because of israel stay today to, to um, to destroy a mouse. this means even more bombardment and destruction is likely on the way for goals. us at the very soon. i yes, i mean it looks like good to know has know, made up his mind to slice off the 20 percent of that on the to that no. so because of which include so much of that goes
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a city and he would probably have to turn that into a no man's land as security is own, similar to the one is right created in 11 in the following. the invasion of the 19 is due to 1992 and this was that and maybe this is where he was referring to the top down security control within that particular sector. so that she pushes the resistance as far as possible from the main cities of time to even ask along. and then from there he would want to exercise further incursions into the rest of guys a to, to provide that for, for security. as he again, as he pointed to have the ability to make sure that security is housing within within guys, and that would be nonsense. some guys have to as well. now of course, this is his own scenario and uh, it is very, i need to say whether he'd be able to achieve it or not. but to get to that point,
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that he is having to destroy much of, of steri. i mean, now we're talking about almost 50 percent of the of the housing stock. i suspect probably more. and the infrastructure to talk to the is, is, is not ruined. hospitals, schools, all those people that use pushed out the northern guys have no temporary refugee accounts to just see cartridges. there's most of them are a schools which means that we have a whole generation of to school now and given the speed in which things happening, guys, when they take refuge, is closer take another year, year and a half to get them out to schools into their apparent housing and so on. so i do cation is out of the equation for a long, long time to come. and of course, the unemployment continues be very high and will get to worst because of the siege . the normal context of reconstruction. connectivity to the rest of the world is very, very important, and in terms of allowing not just the capacities and discounts to come in to have
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it back to solve. but also the material is it's very few places around the world on self sufficient, in the sense that they can generate the on reconstruction the hardware. so by cutting this, uh, uh, connectivity to the rest of the world, whatever trans i thought for what you guys are going to be twice as difficult and appropriate, might take and will take a long, long time to implement, which has been the case of the as it was saying idea, and the experience of guys us is 2009. well, let's look at the previous 4 was in gaza, the sense the cycle of damage as cost billions of $1.00 to $3.00. we will that began in december 2008 and ended in january 2009 cost destruction amounting to $2000000000.00. that's according to the world bank. i'm asked as the 8 days was right. the attacks in 2012 cost cause $1200000000.00. $4.00 to $6000000.00 was the
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estimated cost of rebuilding cause of the 2014 and the damage and economic losses from these riley attacks in 2021 amounted to more than half a $1000000000.00. li. just remind us in the past who was being one of the main countries involved in the efforts to rebuild goals, or i know you're running country way, use it to p a is one of them. and our other guests are all speaking from caught all which is another one of the major funders in the past. that's correct and i see to see has increased its capacity. a loss is very high amount of a form, a mistake. and the sun has been always in the for a c o c times she's the funded by the number syria for monday, a. and the 3rd one is sell a son, especially the countries for receiving form a from turkey for next week. and i would like to once again on the line just to see
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in to do it's a bus to reconstruct it goes off course. plus there's an irony here i'm supposed to receive that in all the prison. i know honors showing clearly his reaction against what is right and 3 against the 1000 people at the same time. he's also choosing a council language, although they the amongst the told him that he's using a guess he's vice as likely increase the lights and say that he is quite careful about his work. that is because we and many other countries who are giving they are sold the a cost to the people of guns out to make their lives better. unfortunately has to deal with either via or 1st. so we have to keep the contact reserve. our contact is so much time with advice in order to do something for the people who are stuck in gaza. that's the wiley and i the that that brings me to what we saw that is
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lumnick arab league summit that took place in the re add. and you mentioned the comments of presence of long. he's cooling on israel to foot. the bill for the reconstruction and gods and let's listen to what he had to say. i said point a is compensation. it is one of the factors that is a, is acting direct. leslie is that it on every occasion, they escape payment of compensation for aids and every crime they commit from destruction to the killing is i must pay compensations. it is like a favor. cut the boy. yeah, it's good to accusing is around it being a spoiled child tom of that and saying that israel should pay reparations. that's not gonna happen. is it as long as there is more international when to make it to
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the account to been uh for this uh, for this crime 0 of course of the laptop and i mean still saw it. i mean, it says the creation of baltimore 19901949. that's the initial comment. it has been committed to funding and supporting, you know, the creation of, of the will. but a scene and institutions to, in the hope to achieve the per minute to a piece, you know, a good thing to apartment b, some submission to proceed in states and billions of dollars have been invested in this project. not only from fed up to you, i mean data opinion and is a, is a major doing in the us as a don't of japan out of countries. it's not me countries. but the problem is that since the creation of also, it is what has been more or less behaving as if it's in that occupation. 5 starters more like keeping a compression does not cost isn't anything, because there is a sort of party which is the do not was on the national community 1000000000 for
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the bed. and the whole idea of also was built around a 5 fuse done tree where it should lead to dependent, but as soon as dates and then able to be consolidated on supporting a by but by the soonest, the but because of the piece of process this has never been the case, so what that will happen, what happens is a fairly piece of process. the tab is started from 1949. didn't know you still have the donors committed to open it up on the screen as a defense on methane of your patient. so it's a better consumption and stuff to school. what is it a and fee is? it's at ease of doing anything targeting people, targeting it for structure. and this tax money that comes from $1.00 of the lower the products, paid the europeans period that ups paid. it's wasted and no one is able to put in a mixed little accountable for this. so yes, if there is any hope that the piece of process would be divided hopefully after the end of this war, there should be
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a body see the suppression by the national community on ensuring that there is no such thing as a free aids. and that is right and should be also accountable for any talk. i think i'll just say otherwise. i'm also old and for what president or don't say it's for the latest between the prize they should be comfortable and pay us wouldn't pay for whatever they inflict what kind of stain is being compensation for victims, beer compensation for the rest of the infrastructure name. it's, i don't also a james that a, something goes. so we have to talk about this with this also get the mass email just end up in a steamy and political life. also as a democrat, democratically elected movement because there was an election of 2006 and the community up the bless this elections. and it was described as i'm, and as a, as a, as a democratic. what? so it donors also, they kind of go and pick and choose when it comes to happening, but the thing is there should be no discrimination when it comes to
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a bass. all right, let me, let me, let me bring in a soul to now just on reconstruction in the past, because i know you've done a lot of work in this, and i'm getting a bit technical here. but that was something called the gauze reconstruction mechanism. can you tell me how that, how to put reconstruction in the past? right. so that ticket as it was introduced in the aftermath of 2014. and it was intended to ensure that to the building that to coming into gaza does not have dual use. now the words cannot be used to manufacture weapons. so student pipes, uh, a lot of uh, steal items in general. uh, sigmund is to try could not come into the gaza strip unless it's rand verifies where every piece goals. and there's a very sophisticated mechanism. it was run by the united nations as supervised also by the you as well and,
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and agreement with the other thing on us already. and it allows us drives to follow every piece of equipment where it ended up in which building. exactly. this is how, how, how sold to and how did that hinder the reconstruction efforts. a while it's, it has been submitted extremely slow to bring material and, and, and as such as, you know, you couldn't treat the lineup people to be able to do the work in a timely fashion. it also made it to be extremely expensive when you have a seas like that, we have any kind of concept of scarcity sort of sense and everything that you, that you, you can get to hands on in, in gas. so it becomes $10.00 to $10.00 times as expensive as anywhere else outside guys. now, before 2014, there was a booming reconstruction phase between the 2009. well, the executive started maybe $11.12 under mercy. one more see was the president in egypt. the 10 to blind died through the tunnels that the palestinians had
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established between gaza and the egypt introductory. and there was at the p going about $300.00 of them and they were able to smuggle in a lot of material when she reflected extremely positively on the economy inside. guys have particular unemployment. construction of the construction is the main form of employment for young men in gaza. and it's been going into into, into peaks every now and then. but in general, this is what people can do and that's confinement. let me bring it, let me bring in tyler again. now if i can, tom, i want to go back to that summit in re add, because that was, you can only imagine is that that summit of islamic and arab leaders could have made apparent in the preparatory measures. they were talking about all sorts of human punitive measures against israel cutting diplomatic and economic ties, leveraging arab energy and financial power against israel banning is riley croft
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from arrow bass bass. and they didn't degree any of it. your reaction. i'm not surprised at all. james. i mean, let's go back in a city, remember that the 1982 caesar flipping on the seizure of the piano, invited with when is that an inverted live in a? uh, uh, uh, to get type of the piano. uh, at that time we only have one other company that had the plastic relations with is that it, which was egypt, which it with too much of a piece. agreements with these are often by the 73 and most of the countries the did not have any diploma conditions with is that understood. they failed to do anything to have the piano. okay. um, we know how much time is the time of we tell them we don't know which time we open what, what didn't happen that react if you could address that very quickly at most out of country, especially the ones that have normalized diminishes. what is it in the physical interest with is that i that was all hooked up on the scene and interest, your reaction, these salt onto what happened to that summit?
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i agree. i think it was a missed opportunity to come out with the single for instance, it presents the list of nations similar to the one they exercised in the un general assembly, even though they came together and they managed to get that as addition to the minimum should have been to come to a political diplomatic relations with israel. i think they should have also and introduced the possibility of a comic sanctions and also uh maybe uh, some kind of thing with the, with the on prices which will then make the united states think twice about the unwavering support. that's now giving to raise ro, are signs to all of you for joining us today. all guess what time a call moved. helena sarah, all the time and salt and barrel cat out to 0 will keep following the war on goals around the cloth. you can also find more context and analysis on a website, which is there a dot com. if you got your own comments,
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world health organization says goes is main. hospital is not functioning anymore and cost for the cx 5. now the on the bulk of this is i'll just say we're life. and the also coming up a warning that the newborn babies that goes south schiffer hospital could die within 48 hours. israel strikes the giovanni a refugee camp again kidding,
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