and i would say that some of the one might come back to measure by the moment i don't think so. it doesn't stop fence from hoping. in the meantime, the popularity of low to g. p continues to fly the flag for motor sports in the nation. so it's 3 alger 0. sit on the international 2nd. well there's all the light is the sport headboards. you can't get more out 0. don't com. and on all the social media channels, i know and ice cream shop and han eunice in southern gauze as bringing children a bit of joy in the middle of war. it's running on solar panels of the israel cut power and fuel supplies. only a limited number of trucks carrying humanitarian aid had been allowed into the territory, leaving many pundits demands desperate for food and we're hungry. this is the only ice cream vented left in gall says the ones popular treat is a welcome sight. how does that have? it's so hot in the middle of all the fighting. i like think ice cream. it's really tasty with electricity and fuel. in short,

supply gulf has been cooked in darkness. the shopping hun, eunice runs from solar panels. how much of a whole lot? when i sold the extreme shop open, i read home us my parents for some money and came to bio, and i really like it. joy is rare among these children who cnn lives, unravel and innocence crushed by the i eat ice cream to feel alive, especially because i am scared that night crammed into you and schools. in the dark . in northern garza ice cream funds, we use as molds with symmetries run out of space intensive variety buildings post policy itself. the un says mold in the health of 1000000 people a crammed into the schools and clinics. and the trick, who was a allowed into casa, is a drop of the ocean food and water a how to come by soup kitchens to be set up to help volunteers hits traditional

cookie methods. but there isn't snow to go around. we didn't know what to do or how to feed our children over the shops of run out of stock because a strip is being besieged for 16 years. and now it says, well, there's not even water for us to wash before. pres of future looks very dark as for now to spend it provides some much needed with spikes from the misery of the war. never some stuff. i know i felt like having ice cream and it's hot, so i bought some, i haven't had ice cream. centerville began and it allows children to be children, nor com, ultra 0. well that's it for me down jordan for now stay with us here. the weather is up next and it's upfront state. you done some watching the

so many politicians want to be the republican party is candidate for the any stand a chance against donald trump. if our planet is burning and we're running out of time, why aren't we doing more to deal with climate change? our american politics just getting to your wife, intuit screen for most americans. the quizzical look us politics, the bottom line. as the war and gaza enters its 5th week, we turn to the west bank where violence from these rarely military and settlers has surged in recent weeks. palestinians are facing increased economic and movement restrictions and many have taken to the streets and express their anger towards both the occupation and the palestinian authority. coming up, we'll discuss the situation in the west bank with the palestinian basket or to the united kingdom. but 1st, as the united states continued to support israel and dismissed calls for a ceasefire, the humanitarian situation in gaza worsens by the day. i'll talk to the former us ambassador to israel under president donald trump. this week's headliner even fried

the david friedman. thank you so much for joining me on upfront. my pleasure, david, following the horrific a mazda attack of october 7th, and left 1400 israelis dead. many of them civilians. israel has been relentlessly bombing the gaza strip the bombing in the sea just entering its 5th week more than 10000 people have been killed, including more than 4000 children of fuel and electricity have been cut for weeks now. and the enclave is infrastructure is buckling. numerous human rights groups have repeatedly said the israel's actions could amount to war crimes or acts of collecting punishment, which of course are legal under international law. again, for masses targeting of civilians and the taking of civilian hostages is unjustifiable in a clear violation of international law within our israel's actions to end. but by providing weapons aid and political support, the israel is united states complicit

a mortgage. so it's not committing any work crimes at all and you know, under international law is realize the right to defend itself. i think everybody agrees, i think everybody agrees that is what has the right to eradicate from us. how much has embedded itself within the a civilian population? i mean, this is a cynical and a horrible organization. i'm sure you recognize that. and if you say that israel can't defend itself, but they can't attack, come us. then when you're really saying is that israel has no right or ability to exist because they don't eradicate but they're not as long as you for a 2nd. very good. just to be clear that now you're that you're interrupting. no, no, no, you missed representing my my, my statement. i didn't say that is one of them right to defend itself. the question is, this is, is we're committing more crimes, the right to defend one's self is not unlimited under international law. and so the question is, outside of this thing, we have the right to defend ourselves. is it a work? i me said the international community agrees interesting committee doesn't in fact agree. uh, none of the that, that vehicle national community agrees that is what has the right to attack from us

. okay. period. i don't think anybody disagrees with that. i don't think there's a single nation in the strep throat, and that's a strong man. no, no one is arguing that they don't have an arthur as mark. the question is, do they have a temperature? is that what type of conversation i'm trying to? what i'm saying is i that's why what it would destroy me. i don't want to waste your time debating whether or not it's just the right to defend itself. we agree that it has the right to defend itself against the mazda, to respond to this attack. that's not what's in dispute. the question is, are the, are the attacks, proportionate, are the attacks sufficiently discriminate i e, not attacking civilians when it's avoidable? are they not attacking target that are deemed on target of all by international law? these are the questions, different. give me one example and i love your response and this certainly you and called israel's bombing of the body of records. you can't quote, a brazen violation of international law and a war crime. so clearly that as a community isn't an entire agreement with you here. a yeah, look, mark i, you know, i don't really care what the one says. i mean,

the one has not been fair about this issue for the last 50 years here. and here is the reality under international law. israel as a right to attack, come us under international law when you attack an enemy, when you a target anatomy, to the extent that there is collateral, the against the civilians. it's not against mark you interrupted the question. what lot, what law you said in what law i said under incident under the international laws of war, what is the 5 years? what is a national? i'm asking because i'm appealing here to things what international rules of war say that you get a tax come off and the way that they have this is real estate has which want everyone every single awards, i need the best, not an honest answer which one different international law does it make it once the international law is not imagined, but which international law there is, there is, there is a body of international law that deals with collateral damage. israel is not targeting a single civilian, they're targeting some ice wherever they identify from us. they attack how much if

a boss is embedded with children, is what we'll do everything you can to avoid those casualties. i've been in the war room, i've been in the war room when israel has attacked. how much back in 2019. okay. i saw the pains that they take to avoid civilian casualties. israel has no interest. they have no upside and a tactic. children is the worst thing that can happen to them in this battle because have been results and international. handcuffs, being placed under battle is not what is real is okay, so to the extent that they were casualties of war, yes, there are casualties. we've worked in every single work. there were casualties right now going on in ukraine and russia. i don't hear anybody screaming and yelling about to get the civilian casually. so a lot more short actually the thing in russia. okay. oh so, so a couple of it is true book. it is true. just a couple of them. nobody. nobody's writing on college campuses about your printer actually right now. let's, let's be on. okay, so just for clarifying purposes. numerous members of the international community. clean the un. have absolutely spoken about the vision civilian casualties in

ukraine. i agree with you, but they're not marginal cost campuses. and the same way i, i, we can see that when would you say you're going to ask me to say nothing about russia's war crimes is absolutely and factual. but you said something else that i think is, is also interesting. you said that there's collateral damage and all war and that a body of international law is which is still haven't named any say that collateral damage is permissible with the war. i agree, the collateral damage is permissible with a mortgage that's not in dispute. within dispute is whether civilians can be deemed sufficient collateral damage or whether civilians can be dealt with in the realm of, of the target. if it's avoidable, targeting a refugee camp jabante refugee camp is not an example of target come off, and there's just a few casualties targeting a records you can't with. there are children targeting hospitals, and mosques and churches are all direct violations of international law. despite the fact that you keep saying that it isn't and,

and we can move on because i don't, again, there are lots of things that we don't know. some of that. let's talk about, let's not move on. let's, let's not, let's not, let's say right, uh for tell me, tell me which hospital tell me which hospital that is we will have targeted. tell me which one you said there's no target hospitals. the only hospitalized like i targeted. so i was targeted by islamic jihad. okay. okay. don't tell me about it. and by the way, i got a question, i'm happy to answer the question for everybody. it's been proven with certain things for approval is certainly that the headquarters of how much is under the i'll shoot for hospital in does the city now you know what happened a couple of days ago. the hallmark are you there? let me say i cannot remember the name to say 15 things on fax will not be challenged on them. i'm happy to let you talk, but i want to as part part of the was factual, was some aspects i spent the years of my life study this giving it what was the last, what was the last time you guys a mark? what was the last time you were a guy 18 months ago? the last time you weren't got a few a few years ago. okay,

so you said i'll see for hospital it's been approved, been a mosque headquarters. what ended up getting a reference, what source, what investigation has proven that have proven that it's an algebra hospital since it's been a proven fact to prove that. ok, so now we're going to get into this basic like thomas cost, an idea that that evidence that is real has shown is not valid. i mean, is that what is the everybody that challenges you is not doing a holocaust denial. you said it's a how mosque headquarter. i simply asked you this. i said we. a you evidence of it? i said, oh, and you immediately pointed to the holocaust denial. israel has present the evidence asked by the c. i ask, ask you to ask everybody. absolutely. i said you don't try to. you don't trust the government, the government you don't trust me is really government. fortunately, trusts how much you want to transform us. go ahead. trust them. ok. the people,

the people that destroyed that they royalty the point that treatment. here's the great and here's the point under article 8 of the rooms that you in under article 33, the 1949 geneva convention international law forbids the targeting of civilians. do you disagree with it? i don't disagree with that at all. okay. would you agree that targeting a refugee camp that has children and adults who are not, how much members who are not active in the military would, would say, would constitute targeting a civilian i completely disagree with that completely disagree. if it's realistic, if it's realist targeting, come us in a refugee camp and it's, and it's pinpoint that gets impacts off, i'm us, and there is collateral damage this collateral damage. that's more, that's cool. who are w a r? that's what it is. so, so here's the challenge, david. israel argues that from us is everywhere in guys that they're under every hospital that they're in every university that they're in,

every refugee can you agree with that? right? we can agree to that now is real, does not think they're everywhere. israel, things that they are where they are and, and there are, those are in many but not all civilian locations. so the challenge is by that logic, virtually every civilian location is vulnerable and viewed as a legitimate target. and so what happens is, fowls of innocent people die again when you bama records, you can't. there's no reason to believe that it's the only way that get at how much target when a hospitalized bomb. there's no reason we that's the only way to do this. and if you know that the clinical collateral damage you call it is thousands of civilians . then yes, it seems like an improper thing, but again, it's not just me saying this, the you in the international red cross all of these bodies including outside of the you and when you said you don't receive it. they also agree that these are war crimes. so why does the entire international community believe it is a wordpress and not you?

so because i, i think i have an unbiased view and i think there's a lot of anti semitism in the world. okay. there's a lot of anti israel behavior in. well, let me ask you a question. mark is what gets attacked the worst attack since the holocaust by a bunch of barbarians. okay, we all agree. the barbarians take a run back across the board. they take $240.00 hostages and they started betting themselves with civilians. that's it. they want how much wins? that's a corner here. they are they what? everyone are they civilian? yeah, locations is appointments from us, whence it's a great, that's a great template for the rest of the world that's gonna result in the destruction of america and europe and all the destinations. because it's, it's a great way for terrorist to defeat the peace loving people of the world. great, very you. now that, except you realize that everything you just said every, every point you're just this proved, i never say that again an a strong man. what i'm saying is that it, what, what are the saying rather than what you just put in my mouth, which wasn't true, is that it's not a binary. so it's not a binary choice. we have to choose between letting her mazda whatever they want,

and bombing innocent children. we can be strategic, we can, we can be thoughtful, and we can follow international law, which says that you can't blow up masks, and you can't blow up a cultural site. you can't blow up churches, right? this is international law. there are numerous people, numerous organizations, and numerous laws and treaties that reinforce this belief. and it's for good reason . and i'm not saying it because of think i've, i've seen the same thing in his room that you're, you're not, you're not addressing. you're not addressing the circumstances which are presence here in abundance that terrorist and bed themselves in mosques and hospitals in schools, different rocket launchers in mosque, rocket launchers and schools. i mean, you know, you're focusing on a hypothetical set of principles of international law that says dump on hospitals dump bump schools, dump on masks are great, we shouldn't boss we shouldn't because we shouldn't. but i'm churches unless, unless there are terrorists in there that are trying to kill you, in which case the rules change. and then israel on top of that will do everything

you can toward people. you've seen all the warranty. your issue today is the times of israel. there was a guy on the phone with israel for 15 hours, trying to negotiate and find ways to move civilians out of harm's way. is what this everything a captain move civilians out of harm's way. i mean, they're, they're doing the best because they've proven thanks so much for joining me on upfront. thanks mark, appreciate it very much. the israel continues this bombardment of gaza, violence against palestinians in the west bank is escalating human rights groups save at settlers and military forces. the lights are using the cover of this war to step up. their ongoing campaign. a little attacks on palestinian communities is really is conducting ratings in air strikes and what it says are attempts to route out possible melting groups as the territory buckles under military locked down. with us to discuss the situation, the west bank is the palestinian authorities ambassador to the united kingdom. samsung has i'm thank you for joining us on upfront. hello, mark, thank you for having me and good to see absolutely up violence towards palestinians

in the west bank has surge since her master's attack escalating what was already the deadliest year since the united nations began tracking in 2005 settlers and is really forces of killed at least a $155.00 palestinians, including $41.00 children. they've also injured more than $2200.00 more is really forces are carrying out raids and airstrikes and they've placed the west bank under military lock there, which makes it extremely difficult for residents to leave their cities in their towns helped me understand. little bit more about what's going on on the ground, or what is going on in the ground has been going on for a long time. while i've, you've seen the expansion of this illegal colonial settlements. you have seen the check point is the, was the infrastructure built to allow these colonial cities now to actually be connected to design and insight in the, the main of incentives of the fathers to the young people. the now we are faced

with a very organized succulent, munitions who have been on that on page over the last couple of years. but particularly since the visual and goes on be gone. they took that, not only for my militia point of view, but from a political point to view because they have the must, as under my says, of the senior ministers in the government. you know, this government has made of civil and legal settlers including small fish and being very good and let them know i'm sort of as the big back of the supplement exercise . the world has seen that being via who is a convent, a convicted dentist, a and is a court, not even an international court vending machine guns over the last few weeks since the war them guys will be gone to a sort of those under civilians. and that is on is what you just described, a huge number, unprecedented mothers and can and we'll find a sending civilians under was bank a tax all over a villages a programs and ever since sitting 5 on homes shops cause include

including the shut off only a few days ago, and many other towns and villages on the west bank and the, and the plan is very clear. the plan is to tell, arise the population and to continue what they have begun to 19 for, to hit. and here the link between the west bank and gaza and here is the mistake or any want to discuss because a nice selection of the west bank and the west bank, including of course you will send them a nice solution with garza and let me just confirm that what is what it's doing now in gaza? mark is the on of the 1940. it's not the right word that this could get even worse . i mean, according, according to the un daily settler text in the west bank have doubled in the weeks following the october 7th events. ultra nationalist that lives in the west bank have driven out entire villages and killed at least 8 palestinians and human rights organizations. a warning that the focus on gaza is being used as a kind of pretext to drive people out of the bill, just as you've pointed out,

very similar to the neck but of 1948. in fact, people have received arabic language leaflets that warn palestinians that quote, this is their last chance to flee to jordan before quote, we forcefully expelled you from our holy land saying you wanted a neck, but like in 1948 and we will bring down on you a big catastrophe soon. this seems potentially worse than anything we've seen since 1948. is that an overstatement? i know it does not, but the only thing that i would add it's not the using garza to gas light or the slate. no, no. the i'm just doing this in, in the west bank and gaza, the very same plan, the pushing, the very same people define the study and people have done that since the very beginning of the aggression we have been saying and warning everybody. this isn't the war on how much this is a war on the punish putting on people. this has to finish off the unfinished business, what they have been describing some today we have ministers in the west bank distributing, get believe, spinning, fear, attracting communities as a whole,

but these communities would have to be forced out of their homes. and then the old, the settlers and legally living and occupied directory would actually take over their homes as and physically live in their homes as they did. and nadine a 40 and so why is this what i'm doing this? it is definitely to categorize the entire nation, the more people gaza push them out to watch. so i know who's on one of the ways that the palestinian people now are supported in their efforts to resist is through the palestinian authority, the ph president. what are bad, so that the pillow is the soul legitimate representative of the palestinian people . but there are many palestinians as you know, who are unhappy with president i bass. once i was spending asked, where are they when we need them? when settlers attack us in the fields or on the roads earlier this year, just 19 percent said they trusted factor. and the majority said that the p a should actually be dissolved given the high level of miss trusts. and the fact that the p

a has not had a presidential election since 2005, or should p a or set the p l o be the representative of all the house. and if it was a fair to say that you're the representative of all the palestinian people, you'll have to number one, the president on the bus is and if that body has movement that is further, that was founded by him on the, on the, the late president just auto thought and many of the colleagues that's the national movement that has really turned us from the fusions to freedom fighters snatched the condition from the entire world when we were absolutely disappearing off the ball forward to inform the study as i have one voice, one flag one ad, there is one minute presentation. now this is a must, this is the biggest achievement of the study and people definitely have one voice. and we will not allow anybody to come to mind that this is different than individuals and personalities. we. there are many issues who have absolutely

vanished from us because they wouldn't believe the list because they have no national institutions that are present them and don't let me stop to this. thank you. all, many people hesitate is full of people who have completely been edited. so the most important thing that we speak in one voice, yes, there are concerns the demands we need to reform. we need to bring out a presentation to the most democratic values and stuff that's, that's all understood. and we must do that. however, the baby with the bucket of the piano remains the as the umbrella for every thought, a send you an organization. and you know this is about making sure that at least you enable your people to stay on and steadfast. however, the issue of, oh, leave the front of spending on people is a palestinian, find this to be an issue. many of the palestinian people are saying they're dissatisfied with the they're saying they want it to dissolve this thing. they don't trust that. but most of the, this obviously there's copies of interest. how may i ask you that? but, but they're saying we don't trust things. i mean,

my question to you is only how strong can a mandate be if many people are saying, hey, we have skepticism. we have this trust, we want to change. you know, i've seen the, i've seen the opening and polls about within the hour. and as i learned the last few days, i've seen the poems about by them. and he has scored the lowest. i'm on even his own his own party. so this is not the discussion of the pano study and people on the most horrific attack since 1948. and this is not now about punishment in front of the main differences. this is about the impulse within the already we are united by our oppression, by the fact of auto pressure. and we are reminded by all going to liberate dollar cents and get the best occupation we audio, not to the people that we do have uploaded to can system dr. present all of us. i'm going to send you as i do, and i did, and we have an address, and this address has committed to it. the emotional concerns has on the solutions for safety is and this evidence has even recognized as like 30 years ago. and this, this is committing to them by the go sure issues. and this,

this is where this book once that is enough to commit any sufficient commitment, that this is the way for all of us. if this address believes that this is not possible, that this is not them because i believe, you know, i tell you the piano has know a very important cross cultural cross road we are performed to discharge or next me how do we protect all people? the apartments are just detecting people who have been part of as protecting dies. and the reason why i was asking about leadership partly is because there's been a lot of speculation about who would govern guys that if a mass were defeated. the us, of course, has been pushing for the p a to take on a leadership role. it seems unlikely. israel wants to handle controlling anybody, much less of the p. a on monday is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu said that israel would control the enclave for an indefinite period, taking on quote, the overall security responsibility. because we've seen what happens when we don't

have what some fear is that the gaza strip is going to be reoccupied. and partly how it's gonna be reoccupied is by people pointing to an extensible leadership get . what do you make of it? you know, money money, say the day after an is, i'll uh, is waiting. who's going to take over? who's going to control number number one, knowing should control. no one can control only the one entity that can be and goes as an entity that can provide protection for its people not control of its people. that's number one. number 2 is there, and there's nothing to sit in define the single thought to come back together. i showed you 100 percent that i'm not interested, you know, why? because they know the coming back of the national institutions would actually bring back to the full, the state of palestine. the unity of the of it on the paper as mine has been. so i per month in maintaining the pot of study and division until they just do you examples mark, you know the examples over the last few years, you know what nothing else has been doing to maintain that division. this is margaret brown to talk about it. this is the time to say it's the oldest folk

oldest discussion about the day off the is used to create schisms and typically attention and find a spot. and i'm, i'm part of study is we don't need it only only of the state to find a star and can take over. we have learned the lesson, it was a little fast come the end, don't walk your patient and called and go because god has been on the few patients since old school. and since 16 years ago is what i just remove that self but controlled every single aspect of the people because of their movement that they can go to the electricity and you know that as the less therefore, this is a problem when we focus on bringing a momentum to and as a result your patients and the study and people have that institutions, the point of study and people have the state, the amount of study and people have the tennessee, it's only the us and the okay. and the west who has not come along the legitimacy and who would want to find the body shop solutions. they have no part of the form that they will not have a partner for that. so i'm gonna thank you so much for joining us and upfront.

alright everyone, that is our show upfront will be back next week the how much was the one of the of, of the really how, what is the annual 1000

i'm, i use the when i, when, when they're leaving and any of them actually a lot of other things to see any, i think was a little thought provoking on sundays, but the patient doesn't have time to wait for the extremely unfortunate script. there are no quick wins and events or research hard hitting interviews. do you feel

like america is less than days of these days, or is it just a different phone? i think that democracy in the process facing realities do you feel that the fraction is already starting the g 7 in the us on one side showing that in the bricks on the other? i think there is a huge piece of that to happen to the story on told to how does era the . ready the world health organization says guys as main, hospitalized not functioning anymore on clothes for a ceasefire. now the other ones are in jordan, this is all just there. a line for me to also coming up a stock warning that newborn babies have gone says i'll ship a hospital, could die within $48.00. as well. keeps up with the bombing of southern guns or

just by bitching palestinians to relocate the best safety. and the mirror.