as lucky profits as the worn guns as to the rise in global on sales. how tall the us go with military aid to israel plus could june for the school. tensions threatened israel's plans to grow gas export. announcing the costs on out the david cameron stung breton when he quit his prime minister of to the brakes that referendum. now he's triggered another pun, disclose? quake making a shop with him. and his phone secretary follows the sacking of an interior minister who tried and failed to suppress major demonstrations and supportive policy engine garza. so what does this mean for you take policy at home and abroad? this is inside store, the

hello that i can change the space that can be few comebacks in british political history. as dramatic as david cameron's return to government is departure of losing the brakes that referendum in 2016 was spectacular. as a shock appointment as the new u. k. foreign minister, for the 1st will be his business, giving him a job, no one expected. he fills a cabinet seat, left empty off to the home secretary or interior minister swell a problem and was psyched for writing a newspaper. article accusing police in london to bring to lead with pro policy and protest is an estimated 300000 people marched on saturday and support of gaza and against is riley aggression. that was off to the chief of the metropolitan police, said the march could go ahead. despite bowman's opposition, cameron joins the government led by wishy sumac with his conservative party, languishing in the opinion, polls behind labor and with an election due in the next year. the party needs

a turnaround, as dramatic as cameron's return to stay in power. in a statement on x, fully known as twitter, cameron said, well, i've been out to the frontline politics for the last 7 years. i hope my experience will assist me in helping the prime minister. though i may have disagreed with some individual decisions, it's clear to me that wishes to knock is a strong and capable prime minister. i want to help him to deliver the security and press 30 all country needs be part of the strongest possible team that serves the united kingdom. so how will cameron's appointments shape britain's policies domestically and overseas will be discussing all this with our expert panel shortly . topic this in try will be his position on the war. i'm gone also with the u. k. b, one of israel storage is that lies biggest supplies then as rushes will in ukraine, where britain plays a similar role back in keith. repairing relations with your upfront vented by bricks, it will be another major issue. and then that's a so called special relationship with us that's badly in need with that

a repair having freight joined a bite and presidency and bar as johnson's time in downing street. well let's bring in a panel of guests to discuss this in london, we have alex dean, conservative commentator on a former conservative party, aiden dunn, d. that's lead, read a form, a news in t v presenter. she's also an old winning journalist and scottish independence activist. and in london, 10 by old professor of politics at queen mary university of london. he's a former deputy director of u. k. in a changing europe. thank you for joining us. all of you uh, this was the best kept secret savings in the u. k. knew no one's sort coming. i'm alex, you know, david cameron, well i did you have any hint of this? it seems a political bump shell. it was a real surprise, a rabbit south of the house from the prime minister. and i think an indication that people didn't know it was coming, not least david cameron didn't know it was coming. is that out for me?

5 minutes to have harsh, wise to say about the government's position on a chest to a high speed rail network. and only last month, if he knew he was going to be lined up for a return to government as far as the secretary, i dare say he would not have been saying that about the government policy. so i think this was a true surprise to everyone concerned outside of downing street, including david cameron, a leslie um its a full, uh, probably minnesota. then becoming a minnesota, in a cabinet. that's something that happens in europe. and it's not something i've heard of in the u. k. before. well, apparently, that i've invested in the former prime ministers and breast on who they come, ministers and a subsequent government. but coming back to this question of whether it's a surprise or not, i mean, certainly when that criticism was that they don't, they, at the monitors their conference last month. that's one thing. but the speed with which david cameron has been made a lord and now joined the state largest on the like to chamber in the world. and

the speed that that's happened that suggests that actually that has been a few days, at least in the may, can. there's a lot of speculation, not that a big decision that is coming on weapons stay in boston, where the supreme court decides on the legality of the governments. rwanda plans for, for of immigrants, for, for migrant that plan perhaps is going to get vetoed by the supreme court. that would have been very difficult to have swell abraham and a place since that was her plan. and perhaps she would have been campaigning for preston to leave the european convention on human rights. so she could just go ahead with that anyway. the thought snelson art komrasky, so not good want. so se, so all of this coming on who knew it was, who knew it was at the back of this. it might have been for a few days, at least everyone knew behind the scenes that this was all happening. to him, i'd like to discuss all of what's coming up in a moment, but i'd like to look back because it was 2016 when david cameron quit as prime

minister the man responsible for one of the most impactful foreign policy changes in the u. k. brakes it now i'm not going to pronounce on breaks it, but i know you have strong views on practice. it, but it was a great political mistake, wasn't it? of david cameron to cool a referendum that he ended up losing. this is an amazing come back as well. certainly if you will, all the renee side of that particular debate, you will have very mixed feelings. i think about the decision to colorado run the days past every camera himself. certainly it was a big gamble on his part and clearly as you say, a gamble that he lost. i think when he resigned the day off the brakes that referendum, most people felt that he was on his way out of politics for ever. so it would have been a huge surprise for most of us, i think for him to come back, don't lease because actually he is generally speaking, stayed out of politics for the duration of alex mentioned the

intervention he made on high speed rail. um, boss, really one of the few interventions he's ever made since 2016, but most of his time quite comes naturally, some would say making as much money as he could buy freebies, ma'am, was um through various uh, moving jobs since he's had, i don't think you know that the last a will come up, i think now in terms of, you know, the debate over whether david cameron is the right person for this job. i don't think that would make much difference to his international co total cases. but i think kat domestically that will be a bit of an issue. i think so i'll be looking back at some of the things that were written in 2016 when you step down. many people said you look like a broken man then to well, i think one of the great changes for his politics and this is to, on both sides of the aisle, is wasting talent and wasting people of experience to get through it or to describe

fees and politics in the fifty's. now sometimes i may choose that path, rather mold the notice who are assigned to it by others. but i think bringing people who's got a good set of experience it is useful. but i think particularly burying him on the tunnel on which side i now to david comer. and it's one of the few names and british politics that will really have international residents. and i, i think so the more that this is really the only jump that he would return to politics to do, you know, he's not a jumping scrapping member of a cabinet to might be doing transpose who might be getting often doing the education breed. he has were tons of politics because he knows a good deal about foreign affairs. and this is a jump that i think seem suited to, i would say to give him go what, what leslie said, it's twice into the memory that this has happened from a prime ministers returning out a couple of she did this job protect. he's when we, when negotiating with your i'm will recently know carrington without far and secretary it wasn't 5 minutes to but it was from the house of lords for margaret facts. just say it's not, you know, it's not that common. on the other hand,

it's not out with any kind of experience either what you say. so it's not that common. but to me, i remember load counting counting 10, but i, you know, i don't remember a u. k prime minister coming back as a cabinet minister in my lifetime and i'm nearly 57 years old. let's go to lord carrington leslie because he is an example of a someone trying to do the job of phones that country well. so if you're in the house of lords, because we know talking about lord camera not way. how difficult is that politically? because you have to engage with members of parliament. he has to have like a standing in the house of commons. is that right? yes, that's right. and it means that the m p is kind of directly question the foreign secretary at the time when there are to essentially world wars that are there's an extraordinary time to not be able to have that direct connection with someone in such an important post. so i mean, that's already gathering at the head of steam. i appreciate that. i mean there's,

you know, that the risk of being a little controversial with the alex. i don't think this is a technocratic sort of game, almost where someone that's being a pretty good player like a whole football monitor can lose that you open in one team, a get pushed rondon prompts to a decent job somewhere else. this is meant to be a democracy and the thing that lots of people in preston and scotland particularly will not forgive david cameron for is introducing austerity for 10 pointless years, which has left measurably a people worse off of those actually minus to reverse life expectancy. and breath, and it was not bought on impactful. and already the headlines are starting to run. what will happen about welfare? i know that's not his department, but it brings that whole nasty party thing a live again for lots of people who felt they, they lost, started and present last item to him. tim, he's taking this job in part because the sooner because decides this side, the interior minister or home secretary swell a problem and she's been

a deeply controversial figure. just bring a audience up to speed and some of the things she said, because one of the most recent comments was about those garza marches and we saw so many people on the streets of london. she described those as hate marches to yeah, solutions place is very, very cultural, controversial remarks about people who but also to to use the fire actually, who was the bro costing, you know, as you say, it was a pay boxes those remarks i think plus the fact that many people felt that she had criticize the police for not finding the big box in london that took place on saturday, really dated. i think i'll bring the control as a to a new boy in point. i think many people felt uh, remarks. well, necessarily inflammatory. she, on the other hand, i think feels very strongly about the issue, genuinely, but every thing she does is also saying, but you know, wrongly and probably by the,

for the latest data she foundations. i think many people say what the conservative policy is probably going to these the next election to be held in 2024. and that sort of probably been east coast to be thinking about how to best position herself in order to take over from research. so you'd actually, he resign off to that election, many of our remarks all clearly designed to appeal to if you like the all thoughts area and rights of the consent to policy. that membership in particular, which of course has the final say in any leadership context. so i think, you know, there was a degree to which people felt by the end actually the sort of problem was always trying to get herself tools to microsoft on kind of off uh to distance herself from a ship that many people think is going to go down in the next year or so, alex, you know how the conservative policy works? how much of a night, mary, she for the prime minister outside the conservative party. we also learned that the

rates coffee who was the environment set country and the former deputy prime minister was also resigned. or i think gun brought them in, has more of the following in the policy, the entries, coffee it does with no disrespect meant to the doctor. i think that this there is danger to the government from the back benches and people usually going to become on those back benches. no longer ministers, a small from. so i brought them and ross of and that's raise coffee and we'll see her resignation speech either in a day or 2 or next week. and that will give us an indication of the kind of person she wants to be. now that she's out of government, i always think it's a bit cost for people to say x a y o say it is trying to speak on behalf of this group in a policy will that uh, that section of a policy rather than thinking or perhaps just perhaps is what they actually think, and it is possible and of somebody looking at the situation on the streets of london of late and be a ghost at the failure of lord forestman. i shall store it to ensure that protest was laura biding without hate speech. and respecting the room was lowered in this

country, including not wearing masks of protests, which many thousands of people did it possible that out then home secretary was actually having to be saying what she thought rather than trying to narrow it costs to some parts of the conservative policy, and if that's the case, i would say that she was speaking with a lot of people in this country with thinking as well. of course, one of the other thing she said was sending asylum seekers through wanda was a dream, an obsession. we've already touched on it last week, briefly. the government faces quite an important decision by the u. k. supreme court on wednesday on whether that is law full. could that turn out to be the next problem facing the u. k. prime minister as well. yeah, absolutely. and if it does, does it does, it may seem a go against the government. so the, the policy doesn't work. so the discussions kind of to really think again about the whole strategy on migration. but i mean the level of kind of a position of the reasons and across breast. so naturally too many of similar

problem is all stanzas is pretty enormous. and when we're talking about these marches, that we're the final provocation, if you like inflammatory spaces, comans by, by similar problems by a home secretary, you've got to remember that a 126 people were arrested from the far right. protecting the senate off, which is at the center of london, a special place of remembrance, which was nowhere near where the large, the peaceful palestinian demonstration was going. now i've been on, on those pro palestine demonstrations in scotland. this is going to be like the, the protests over the pool talks in britain and over the iraq war where people keep trying to ignore the, the, almost a majority of the population want to see spar in palestine and preston. that cannot be express. but we have these games being played by the british government trying to distract us all from a terrible crisis. let's look now what oldest could mean for

u. k foreign policy. tim, i mean, normally you case foreign policy set by the prime minister and the cabinet follow it, but do you think that will be different with the next prime minister as leader with this individual take on these issues? do you think you'll have an out sized sway in this particular case to? well, i think alex is right to suggest the camera has if you like a great contacts book, you know, he has really good relations with someone picks me well still in fact probably just isn't leaders for his time in office. i'm going down pretty much whether he will in particular drawing british foreign policy in any direction to reach you. so you're not himself or the cabinet with what take. i think mostly the biggest agenda item will be israel, palestine, i'm the attendance on the part of the british come to exercise. so leverage if you'd like. uh, what is riley's doing well maintained you're

a very strong styles against us. and then the other big agenda royce, and that's what we do for gold about really for awhile that we shouldn't have copies of you, craig and russia, and they are good and i think we continue to see brett and take a very, very strong style. so the off off you, craig, i think the interesting thing will be relationships with the european union actually versus the next on quite so not himself to he or some of the divisions between the u. k. you disagree or, and all the full data cameras could play quite an important and involve your role in that respect. it's alex, let me go further on garza, here's a quote from 2010, the beginning of david cameron's time and office. the situation in garza has to change cause a kind of a must not be allowed to remain a prison camp yet. he also was the prime minister in 20122014. when the what is

riley was on garza and he was pretty supportive of his ro, i'm sorry, 6 he's really was on calls or is the kind of language that i wasn't expecting for you. i mean, it's a, is why it was a tax on outside of the 7th and the most appalling way. and people seem willing to brush, raise the rates in a way that i seem to be waiting to accept in the same way that it's being said on this channel that you know, the inflammatory woods were from out home secretaries. so that a problem and, and, and also cool rather than death to old jews, child sit on the streets of london that last week on trending on switzerland, in the united kingdom. alex alex's alex, of a for one. why is wife is why is that no send is a why is it and also alex in israel war on john. so there are 11000 people for the whole thousands of the machine that you're trying to just do. you start cheryl? say no, i'm actually on a subject offices you use. don't know if you're sure you're shouting at me now. i'm not sure everyone what single listening will realize your voice and you don't need to. it's important. we remain civil and maintain the ability to disagree, politely and separately, even on things on which we disagree. profile a great,

a great, a great. so why is it not? israel is more on gaza when there are 11000 people killed. and these riley's community name a number of about a 100 of how much lead us they can actually name and there are 4 and a whole 1000 children. and then what, how much flight is you'll, you'll, you'll take us festival come from how mass prescribe to terrorist organization in the country i'm speaking to you from. secondly, israel is perfectly entitled to defend itself against time as the world protest. i'm but so, roost outside an organization that led to the personal murder of many found many of its citizens. i didn't realize most of flies in any way, you know, country is obliged to hold back when seeking to insure its own safety. and israel's, the only country in the world expected to act with some kind of magnanimity and restraint. when seeking to defend itself from hunting being attacked beyond the no mistake. this was, this was started by how may i know by israel in any way. and the fact that you

phrased it in the way that you did, i think it's right. selling leslie, what's your take on this? because i've spoken on this program to numerous international lawyers about this. and they believe israel is in breach many times of international humanitarian law. and what it's doing, despite what may have happened on october the 7th. yes. and i think the position here, our own 1st minister in scotland homes that use of had relatives that were engaged . so for 4 weeks, phoning every day. no expecting to actually see the following day, the boeing was so intense, but he might as well as to keep a kind of even side on this respect to the jewish muslim communities in scotland. absolutely homeless. committed the 1st 4 crime on october the 7th. but we're not in a situation where i think people would be struggling actually to think that what's happening, not on lots of cards. listen to the news. there's a hospital with babies dying are, and i'm pleading for some, either for fuel to keep their ventilator is going or for an escort to take them

across to egypt. that'd be, there's nothing that's more powerful than children babies. when it comes to everybody across the world, realizes there's an impasse here that has to change. not israel might well field vengeful might well feel it task to defend itself. the job effect into a national community is to come in a place a different templates on, but i grew up in northern ireland. this desire for striking back does not get to anywhere in the long term. and the long term is what the rest of the international community should be concerned about. tony to you now to him, and that's camera in the, in the you. because clearly he knows all the big players that they gonna say, isn't that great having someone we know this great statesman formally the back or are they going to say, oh no, it's the mound that brought us breaks it to how well i think opinion will be divided on that, i do think however, that most of your teenagers do, regardless of the camera, is

a serious statesman. at least i think even those are you fairly, by a very big mistake gambling over breaks it. feel the same way? i think, well, i would say about the camera time to give you an issue for the place probably falls through much reliance on germany, for example, as a means of the u. k. getting what it welts out of the you. i hope you will make that mistake again. i say, i hope the data cameron has to some extent that is less than about waiting to the you actually works on the will that he will actually say more about the you as a collect say for all the serious, if you like, of a government trying to a degree, i think that's an incredibly important that i said, i'm very sorry much to a foreign minister can do about all economic deal with the european union. i think there's a box reluctance on the part of the you to reopen if you like the training corporation

agreement, even though that's actually coming up for some kind of review and review in the next couple of years. i think really well we can do is do do what we can to reduce the friction, but to provide that kind of that can know, lack of data. cameron could perhaps play a policy and not all there was overstate how much one man and can make a difference. alex, what do you think? what cameron's motives for taking this job? why do you think he decided to it? was it a sense of duty? i recall his resignation, speech in 2016. i love this country. feel older to a subject. i will do everything i can and future to help this great country succeed . or do you think he has some political ambition left in this scenario, for example, where the conservatives lose a general election to think he might be tempted to, to leave the house of lords and come back to elective politics? is that a possibility? strict, so not the word i my instincts is that it's the full,

but i think that he feels that sense of public service. and of course that was public service that was cut short because he felt he couldn't continue to say after you lost the brakes. it referendum, but there's no doubt about it. people will respect you. nice thing about the lots of people speculate that it's very difficult to really see next and manage with yesterday's manage the whole ring. but he's a, he's show the say, i think his intentions are good. i think that's on, especially in the foreign brief way. he feels he, he knows the pitch well and he knows he's got something to offer. i think that's where he's, if it was he can continue to contribute something for his public life. but he does their doubts about that. some people will be suggesting that his, me a presence on the minds mission. so you're not, i'm not gonna have to be something that camera to assume that by top to work got to demonstrate it's not true. can i ask you, leslie? how difficult do you think it will be for cameron to serve on the a mind? i'm sorry for them to to, to, to, to serve, undermine it. was your boss. so not is 15 years younger,

and i looked it up so not i don't even a year an m p for a year and a month when cameron resigned. i think you'll monitor, you know, to, for the pretty good from to i'm not actually a, i should about to that. that table a piece already talked about it being it is being talked of him as being a team player. he's the only state and he's made so far on foreign affairs is saying that he will stick to the position of the allies. so the thing about it for so not could be he is recently talked it himself as a change candidate. that was the position he put forward up, the recent conference was amazed to try to restore the tories forces, which is almost impossible actually. now here he is with a basically the architect of, of austerity. the mon, who created as you've said the big event or breakfast a. i think the opinion polls suggest that the holy for us to know joins the scouts who never voted for the 1st place and wanting to be back in the a you. this is

a continuity situation. if you have a very prominent visible for on secretary like david cameron, who is associated with adults, the old policies that have come distance yourself, started easily from that. so i wonder officially, so not is not in a position where he's going to have to embrace the whole tory project of the last 1520 years to try to make sense of what he's doing with cameron that brought home to him. how do you think this makes the u. k. look, i mean, do you okay, talk to a lot about it, special relationship with the us. a president boynton doesn't seem to have much time for that. since, since we've had breakfast in the u. k, a u. k politics before breaks, it seemed to be a pretty serious affair, but in the 70 is off to of, to it's, it's been a roller coaster, some might say, of soap opera. yeah. the thing this continues that much, actually, to the, to the sample pra, i think people around the world available and about britain was

a call to, to rex it. and i'm thinking that it may have been a mistake. i don't think, well mine can make very much difference to a bridge reputation of the intended cameron, always, it confirms advances, so it as much as a relationship, special or otherwise would be us, will continue even reinforced that in all sorts of ways. i mean, i think, you know, the domestic politics in some ways, a more interesting perhaps in the sense that you, we will get some polling fairly soon. i suspect about whether this has made much difference to the way people think about government. i doubt hard much whether it will actually make very much difference. we've already got some poll in what people think of david cameron, not since he's appointed, but just to full the. and it was generally speaking, not particularly positive for the former prime minister. so i think anyone expects a this either isn't actually old domestic leaves make

a big difference to the government standing her mind that for boss a difference to whether this conservative policy managers to hold on the next election is, is probably going to conclude well actually no much is it is a change of person now, what actually the fundamentals for the government, but how both in terms of the economy on the state of public services in terms of how the prime minister see, i'm not looking very postage if i don't think you're pointing david cameras, going to also that in the slightest science you've already much tim. i'm trying to to all guess. i'll explain. leslie rid of attend bell if you missed the beginning of this program, you can watch it again. any time on our website out, is there a dot com? if you have comments on the discussion, we'd like to hear from you go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story or an x, the former to a to find us at a inside story for me, james base and the team here and go find something with us. i'll see you soon. bye . for now the,

it does have been some fold. we come back and we have these waiting on god. why would israel that crossing is really deputy foreign minister. he thinks that the rules of the game has changed. i'm on israel steps is that it will certainly look at the lease of more of these captives. what you might have to use drugs, are you telling view is faulty a you an expos on bias and wrong? well, you have to do is look at the u. n. schools in gaza. why are you looking up? i'm? i am hearing something i said to me, that's right over our heads. stay close to the story without a 0 to submit to the world slow down. we stand firm as homes west, it's a global nickel reserves. indonesia is points to leave the global, the battery industries. we definitely manage our abundant resources and play

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