of israel is still refusing to allow international journals into jobs to cover the carnage they're all that they can report on 1st hand is the is really saw palestinian reporters of risking everything to get the story. yeah. 15 members of his own firm. killed in and ask dr. sharon, what's happening on that? we don't cover the news. we cover the way the news is the listening post the pressure with home and from within is it ministration? i'm from the us is arrow of allies president joe biden. the scene is perhaps the only person who can stop israel's blood showed in gaza. so what do you agreed growing calls, resting spa. this is in psych store the

hello again on james bay's the us president is facing his biggest international crisis. yet israel's war on gaza is showing no signs of stopping hospitals. schools refugee camps no way say for a palestinian, as the ward is now in its 6th week, all eyes their own president, joe bind. it needs to stop the cottage, but he seems to be struggling to assert any influence on israel. will divide the administration deal to grow and global pressure and help bring about a c spot and goals that we'll discuss all this in a moment with our panel of experts. but 1st car like has all report a rallying cry deep in the night. thousands of protesters on the streets of san francisco quoting for an end to israel to gaza, the or at the same time in the same

city, a gathering of world leaders with us. president joe biden paying host, attending a fundraiser for his own re election campaign. days earlier he expressed concern about israel is a tax on hospitals in gaza. but the us lead to has continued to fall short in quoting for a ceasefire. that sealed protest across the united states and cools the action to end the violence. it's not about us and then it's about us. and that ultimately, unless we figure out how we can be a big us, the kinds of terrible things that we are now seeing in gaza. and that we saw in israel are going to happen continuously. and to close, keep growing even from within white house,

hundreds of employees of find an open, less demanding binding called a ceasefire. that says, is ready. troops, storm causes largest hospital ann at the palestinian group. how much says the item is fully responsible for the minimum and based on what the white house and the pentagon contributions to the campaign of scientists lies that claims she thought was used by the resistance makes american president button a full participant of this occupation and all this crime and also the genocide, a war that i'll tell us then young people are being exposed to how much around the world. because keep coming in, growing with record numbers of people taking to the streets. what on the ground in garza is ready bombs, keep phoning, leaving palestinians without array of her car leg the inside story the

the well let's discuss all of this further with all guests in washington dc. we have and he had our national executive director of the council on american islamic relations cabinets, the largest muslim civil rights advocacy organization in the us. in london, julie norman, associate professor and politics and international relations. a university college london also in washington. d. c. has a name that he's a scholar and political analyst at the middle east institute. thank you very much. all of you for joining us today on inside story. so let's look at where the us stands on the current war on golf. so can i start with you, how so on? if we go back to october, the 7th, that was a full throated defense of israel from president biden. given the scale and nature of masses attacked was the public fully behind him van and all they behind him. now it's important suitcase, what's going on in the u. s. in the context stuff,

the caution was, we're talking about actually be here since the ninety's. and here we have really ultimately a crash off narrative. we have whether you got to is that in particular, either you'll view it as in the context of jewish history as the jewish people are dealing with the victims in the course of the millennial discrimination of face the demo for situation. or on the other hand, you place it in the context of the national liberation that to the point of sending people that have been victim of occupation of traffic, tied up the segregation and the persecution. so these 2 masses, prior to october 7th, i would say we're already brewing in the, in the united states. clearly with the, with an assets that use the, the jewish people as victims of history and export,

sees in the is the direction of sorts. being, having the opera had at least with the older generation. while the new that the younger generation being probably more susceptible to accepting the national liberation and the view and palestine in the context of colonialism and the cold on our nation. and you, when the is uh, not to as the manifestation of fractured like that the, uh, the ocean of do is just so you buy more. so another lane, you know, colonialist. now as i would say these were more or less in the background, october 7th. and what happens after brings them to the bank bullet to the floor, and actually the in the, in ways in better places. for example, on the part of the there wasn't enough time, not simply highlighting the jewish history to live by if you wouldn't be attacked, knocked in the context of an occupation and assistance occupation,

even if they think will that acts of fluency and acts of terrorism. but more so in the context of and now the link and other phone ground. this is why we see, for example, antony blinking going to is that an access to essex. it to the same. but also as, as people in the, as it was you, and that for uh, that this is an attempt on the part of the, the, the, is riley. and she would like not to insist that so how much is isis? what happened on october 7th? is that seems like happened on $911.00. the in the state is a wonder exactly to cigna within the culture, more awards. where, where is it that you as an american citizen or to the face or the, let me, let me bring it, let me bring it in, julie. now on this, julie, do you agree with that analysis? number one, where do you think us voters? because we do, i'm afraid of the best human lives involved to you, but we're coming up to an election year in the us way. us vote to stand on this. i, i so one opinion polls and eventually it's from the end of last month. it said 66

percent of american vote to strongly agree or somewhat agree that the us should cool proceed spa. yeah. what's interesting, we have seen the numbers shift a bit and i would agree that some of this comes down to culture wars or politics or what have you. but i would say again, there is definitely been a shift within the democratic party. the party is pretty much split almost 5050 right now with where sympathies lie. but we, we have seen just didn't polls that came out today, isn't it? we're 20 percent increase of democrats. we're now supporting us to expire compared to just last month. so i do think that as the work continues, as the images are casualties, continue to come over social media and mainstream media, those calls are increasing especially on the democratic side. so i do see a bit of a shift in the narrative, among public opinion. and we're also seeing obviously a shift and messaging from the by the administration itself. and i think that's partly in response to popular opinion, but even more so in response to what the administration is also observing on the

ground and hearing from error of allies and partners. now how do we have a loyal audience from out to 0 in the us? but of course most people are watching the us, the television networks and reading the new s newspapers. and that is how they're getting. the view of this will do you think the us coverage is balanced? all people getting the whole story are not up to the us population has been conditioned for decades, if not for generations to adopt one negative and one side which is the, is the, the negative accompanied and aided by the popular culture, whether from hollywood movies over 1000 of them who depicted upset and listens, passing and the best the, the kids as dependents as of the civilized people. and people who do not share their western values and university badges. so the humanize ation. oh,

the better thing is at adams and motions. not only in, in the popular culture, but even in the education system in the textbooks in history books. so you'll talk about academia, news, and even policies that have been one sided. so that the ultimate to dissolve is not only a bias against about a, an organs who believes that there's only one that are active and when the alone october 7 came to culminate this. the way uh, is there a managed to deceive the. ready done by the end, the us media who prides itself to be objective only when it comes to the eastern, the stomach issues. is it a and managed to put in the head off by then certain claims that we have not verified. and this way uh, a very damaging to the 1st thing in the end to what was happening on the ground. for example,

the claim of that behind the children and the atrocities that allegedly him as committed against is a babies. there was no mention that it was a military operation, mainly against the military. uh, post of of, is there any who had been deceiving the uh, the enclave of goes out for 16 years. it's never talked about to about 6 to about 50. so but for the 2nd october affairs and the many months before, what is there and has been committing atrocities and has leased the they divide and settlers to invade the bell about us thing in homes and so on. so the public has not seen anything about the conflict recently except on october 7th. so. okay, yeah, let me let me bring it in. how so? and let me bring in her son though, but we have seen, i'm sure this has been, i'm here in doha at the moment, although i live in new york,

most of the time. i'm sure us media is covering those pictures of these riley military around the all she for hospital, the attacks on all the hospitals in gauze, a city. those pictures really distressing pictures of those babies. in the incubators who had to be taken out of the incubators, because there was no fuel. the 1st nurse who tried to help those, the c name babies, shot dead buys, is riley sniper, all of these, the reasons do think that as julie said, posing is changing. absolutely. and we have to keep in mind the yes, there are influence operations in progress on the fact that it's not on the part to offset the opponent stuff. is that, but let's not insult the intelligence of the american view along the lines that so ultimately yes, sometimes i influenced operations or she's like, uh, some misinformation might the end allowing actions such as what we're seeing in the honda. basically an actual mass that goes on and on under the auspices of the,

under the claim that it is near the an attack on i'm not back to i think ultimately one, let us provide the with the, the appropriate information the american public is able to, to to sort to and it becomes the responsibility of the, the other side to, to provide that. yes, there's an ad and has an advantage in here, but it's not, it's not the as the, it seems like complete as it seems to be at times. and ultimately, of these images the images are higher and that's are going in the higher order every 6 to quite through the whole thing and, and insert them circuits in novels they need more clarification. and i mean, just with the patient. ok, the, the cruelty of how much, how much engaged in an operation that had submitted to the aspect. so it may be, but one cannot be not at the cruelty that has to happen. whether it's their name or

her in the, in the values sacraments and any kind of, excuse of that feeds into the whole the whole night. say that you cannot listen to the other side. so it's important. it's on the line, the fact that the american public watches listens, sees and the acts of portland gates. the question of providing these facts, that is, there should be an interesting in, i don't think that september then by then was the into the position. you have to get him set to be as bonus, even though he's not jewish nonbillable and his supports of the of the mattress at the end it said something to be questioned. and so the actually be nice if you have the counselor before. but the bringing julie now we've, we've heard the talking about what's been going on around these hospitals in gaza. city really, really distressing. i'm wondering when whether some of this, when you hear what present biden says on some of these things makes him look weak.

that's just listen to what he said a short time ago as my open expectation. and i know be uh, less intrusive action route to contact and work with uh, which is really, is also there's an effort to take this part us to deal with a release of prisoners that's paying negotiated as well as countries engaged. so i made some of the hospital must be hospitals must be protected, the u. s. president there and a spokesman of full, the national security council said we do not support striking a hospital from the. busy we don't want to see a firefight in a hospital. julie just now is off to they said all of that. these are great. the military did the right inside the biggest hospital in gaza city. i'll ship a hospital. that's exactly right. and we have seen a similar dynamic several times over the last few weeks whether it was calling for

she mandatory and pauses, or for an increase in, in a delivery or now for the protection of the hospital. so we do hear these statements based messages from blinking from byte and from others of the administration. and yet we don't see israel shooting those messages on the ground. i think we're biding. there was a, a, a kind of a gamble that if he embraced israel quite publicly at the starts of every thing after october 7th. and that they knew he would have a little bit more leverage privately behind the scenes to give some of these messages. but as the operation very quickly unfolded, i think the administration stopped very quickly that israel was not going to uh, to take all the guidance that the us thought they might. whether is in terms of surgical strikes, whether in terms of dismantled hearing aids or now in terms of the hospital. so i think that's been a little bit damaging to the administration. it's terms of just really showing the, the limitations if you will, of the leverage that they have with israel,

even as their messaging has somewhat shifted over this last month's need had. so yes, the job i've been calling for more a to go in and only a very small number of trucks have gone in. i did some calculations since the 21st of october. it's an average of 46 trucks a day, which the u. n says is wholly inadequate. they wanted fuel to go in apparently some fuel is now going in a tiny amount of fuel, but that hasn't been any fuel for any of the us. those are the days they didn't want to tax on the hospitals of the us, made it clear it wants to roll for the policy new 40 at the end of the conflict. and that's a yahoo seems to have ruled that out. tell me what language does the us have if it really wants to use it. us has all the image or the setup is i would not be able to inflict all the suffering on the palestinians, both from the military, economic and other aspects of the suffering. that seems i'm never going without the

2 bits of, of the united states with the military support the different methods of. ready or the, the justification the, the, the excuse accusing of is, or his behavior. they ability of the u. s. to prevent and these, all the international communities when to the, you know, in is, or, and, and just, uh, info or punish the, the system is that the, for the heart of crimes and the trends against the money that has been committing. so if the u. s. once it can, i ask, is the stop and is the end? would have no choice to stop. it may take a long time because it is right. uh huh. um, it has been humiliated by us and by the stood festus of the palestinians in garza who were at one time after another to leave their homes and become a 2nd time in their lives or in the field on slabs. generations to be refugees and

to establish the other the 2nd neck of that. so it'll definitely is under the influence of the united states but also. ready you cannot underestimate the entry. ready of the pro is an x of lobbies in the united states almost, and that is a known fact. i'm the one up on the view is that they vote the will of the congress and demand for the patients who decide on the budget. and how much is that i looked at, for example, some of the students in the united states suffer from uh, you know, loans that they have to pay. we have so much unemployed people. we have so many uninsured people in the united states. i work infrastructure suffering, and when they want to, uh, you know, uh, spend any money on this. even a government could be shut down because of the product is incomplete. but when it comes to the end, they would just fund it what? $14000000000.00 to ship for the setup wizard without an accountability without any

ability to view as to say stuff in there and is the listing. so okay, there's an awesome if you have i you house. so i have time. you had me had that saying that the us has is great leverage potentially tell us in the current political situation though kim, president, bite me, use that leverage. now not see that the us that not only does leverage the u. s. x, should he fact to the is a lot of this money is satisfied to is that as far as a more is rewarding, is that for more and therefore the responsibility of the binding administration for the max record that's going on. and why does that is to you, but can i go by the next difference? while i, i do not see him wanting to act this in the back. even if you want to do when we are a non election season. i mean the elections are a year away back to,

we're already kind of that, that position and is taking place. i see him and he tries to not just in the family, i'm going to direction, but then nothing else does not belong. being got hacked and attacked harshly that from the sign, that's all they probably some time, i mean what we're talking here about all those who would like to be his opponents in the, in the november tons and tons of for an accident. that was the savage and by saying that to the abundance our ally, and there's enough up to up support meeting at the, at the base level in order to apply that to up to the other accusations that button is facing another week. and then, but if he does not, and he does not seem to be doing it while he lists i anything americans and most of them americans and progress of the americans and the others and others see that back to the us from the city is not acceptable and in particular,

in those key states, way where he needs to win in order to secure a certain time. so he's not saying that book position, but frankly, he comes across as a weak feeder. i'm unable to in the one says i live in uh i'm talking about the is read, i'm able to make a decision. that's what the basic the she came from criticism and the sick unit is back of the way to the what about the, all the allies that the u. s. has that seems to be division in europe, but there are some big important players that are pushing out for a permanency spa countries like fraud, some spain, perhaps a slightly smaller country orleans, but it's a country that has real residents with this president. do you think you'll be listening to what some of those countries are saying? well, the store, i mean, i think all of this is feeding into the international conversation. i'm trio and canada. i made some more pointed comments yesterday as well. but at the end of the day wouldn't be us says on this issue is tends to be uh, you know,

kind of kind of sets their, their own agenda with, with israel and doesn't always go along with where the rest of the world is on this . and if and you, if anything, the directional call is usually the other way. um you, i will say you, i think it's more of a situation on the ground more then, you know, pressure from other allies or things like that. that would maybe ship things for the buyers and administration for bite and personally. and again, i think we have started to see some of that all ready. and just as the, as the operation continues and the reality on the ground change that does constantly change the calculations. i think initially there was a sense for me to buy the ministration to come out strong with a, you know, israel has the right to defend itself. and i think most allies got behind that very quickly, i think where things started to change was how do they go about doing that? and that's what we've seen playing out progressively over these last few weeks. that's why we're starting to see allies change their messaging and again, biting slightly doing it, but in real terms, you know, i think is still very much down in with, with israel. and i think on here as,

as others have mentioned, politically, needs to do that. i think personally also wants to do that at this moment on while, while still trying to restrain the civilian casualties. um, at least through rhetoric you had, what about the legal perspective tool did this? because on this program, i had numerous international lawyers and nearly every one of them says that israel, in some way or the other is breaching international humanitarian law. and we got the international criminal court investigating as well. i know the us isn't signed up to this, but do you think the white house is worried about being seen is complicit in terms of law? you know, i mean in terms of legal action against the us or is that that's like after the war is, is, is. ready so i don't think the any side is worried about that, and it can be deflected for a later time. but if i may say that the pressure that the administration fee is may, 4th, may, may, 4th administration to take

a position and in the start shifting. the language as we have been seeing in the past 2 weeks, is look at the pressure definitely seems to be honest on the ground. uh that there is a lot of work next to be done from the site. the. is there any way that it was able to achieve military guards or not, which i believe it has failed and so far. and that's why it's been trying to pressure. and that's my getting most of the guns and bathing us because bombing screwed up, so on and so forth. yet they, they, the people of guys are still standing and they're not complaining. i mean, when i say the not something, they're not telling me against the processing of resistance, but the key pressure on the administration today is the voters, especially america, most simple of those. and other than that, it comes with those who send a clear message to president by them that if there is no ceasefire, you will not get books. you will not get books in the back of ground states like arizona, georgia, michigan, ohio. ready nevada and so on,

so that will force me to think about the enter. so fischbach, the, the democratic party, this is the interest of, is it a, one of these things start to be more distinguished along the lines of, you know, your own interest. you will see a different sandwich and more pressure on the administration to exhibit on, on this, of the julie just adding to that. do you think he'll, he'll be affected by more pressure coming from his own people because we're seeing all sorts of lexus of this sense being signed by political appointees by members of the us agency for international development and people in, in, in, in the state department. do you think that will have an effect on this president? you'll know, lots of those people who've, assigning those left as well. i think it's notable that we're seeing these public letters and statements coming out from within the state department within usa id, within some of these important agencies. i do think it makes a difference and we know that separately or state blinking has tried to address

some of these concerns and take some of these concerns on board. um, but with that said again at the end of the day, i think that biden's policies towards israel and toward visual palestine is probably going to be a little bit bigger picture. and that anyone on a single protest her action is going to influence. and you, again, this is a very um, obviously very sensitive issue right now in the united states. and i think she knows that he probably is not going to please everyone, whether it's voters and constituents, whether it's person is working as administrator, spend, whether it's policy makers, do. they are very strong opinions across the board. and i think she's are aware of that. she's also not new to this conflict. he's been engaged with israel now for decades. and i think that is he really influenced in history or on this it more than again, any one set of public opinion or one hole or something like that. so thank you very much, julie. thank you to all guess today, julie norman has a name there and he had our coverage of the war on cause. it continues on that

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