then joe bought in in california. the 2 leaders aimed ease tensions on issues including taiwan, on the south china sea. from a body shop, please show with the china and the united states. so ultimately arrivals a partner is a fundamental and of arching questions. the logic is very simple, if one views the other as the primary, a competitor, the most significant, you political challenge and an ever approaching scratches, it will inevitably lead to erroneous policies, wrong actions. and outcomes is be the a, a full and i sent it to is back home in the philippines, off to spending nearly 7 years in detention fail, a dilemma was granted fail off to court rules evidence he's to chancia with drunk trafficking, was weak white's group say the charges politically motivated barnaby lo has after nearly 7 years in jail, former philippine sen layla to be my speech and home. a small crowd of well wishers treated her as soon as she stepped out of the airport. the man had said many times

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resolve is still so strong in terms of seeking justice for the thousands of victims of the managers, drugs under the previous version. but for now, she says she just wants to make up for lost time with loved ones. while the celebration is going ahead here in the you must home region. she says she hasn't forgotten that the trial isn't over, but she says she's always had faith. she'll be vindicated. no matter how long it takes a barn to below algebra, from the big old regions in the philippines. okay, that's it. for me, my name's side. i'll be back in the top of the hour with me on the will on garza and the days of these upfront coming up next a week to look at the world's top business stories from global markets to economies

and a small business sales force and including security around the world, is there something that the international community, your view should be doing to understand how it affects? counting the cost on o g 06 weeks after how mazda is a tax on october 7th. israel continues it's for environment and stage of gaza while israel's response has had the full support of the majority of european countries. some dissenting voices are making themselves heard and calling forth the site. so what role is you are playing in the israel does a war and how has it support for israel changed over time? i'll ask renowned economist and former brick finance minister. just verify in an upfront special the. yeah, those are factors. thank you so much for joining me on upfront. it has been 6 weeks since a mazda is attacked on october 7th, and the start of israel's been barred meant of guys that the vast majority of

european governments were unequivocally supportive of israel, as well as its response. but in recent days, belgium's deputy prime minister is called for sanctions against israel and french president emmanuel, my crone has called to, quote, worked towards a ceasefire. are we seeing a shifting the positions of european governments? tragically, it has taken more than $11000.00 debts to see a minute shift a shift which is so late coming and so small that as you opinions, we should hand our heads in shame. hang our heads in shame, what they think should have been the initial response that go on october 8th. what should the european union, which is your paying states have been saying the thing that logic dictates which is beyond condemnations. we all come then war crimes. welcome them. horrible, horrible things that have been done to ease rarely, citizens, to die,

citizens by hamas, to palestinians by separate us in the west bank. but, you know, let's move on beyond contamination because we, europeans have created this problem. we've created centers of honda semitism problems against the people of the game origin or the from that land, the jews and then we subjected them to the holocaust. and then we support that. the vital dogma or victim of a land without the people for the people without the land as if by the sign was empty of people. this is settled, a white supremacist language. the british used as an australia to declare australia that a new use an empty land and the people that ought to justify the general side of uh, the ability jane is in australia, and not just mr. maybe other than gania, that the, the in south africa and, you know,

in the 1920s. and so there's the process begun by which europe we're starting to get the read off. it's go over the programs against the jews. maybe get rid of the jews from you by supporting a general side against the police thing is this time victim not to be this has been going on for a d. so what's the happened at the beginning of october? so for everybody simple, we should have demanded the end of the state of our card, which creates 2 different legal systems on the same small bunch of land between 2 different peoples. that is the source of all the violence violence for decades. we have a prime minister in that israel, who is the zone, but the whole point of his existence was to destroy the peace process. nathaniel who has won the objective and likes to make sure that there is never

a 2 state solution. the solution to jo, bites and advocates, among them, a condo advocates, so this is what we should have them from them all acts of violence and at the same time say to both sides, to both extremes. we're not going to tolerate this. there's going to be a peace process under the united nations. there's going to be a complete clump of down all kinds of islands, whether it's separate virus of the west bank by users, or how much volume is again, just varies. and we're going to sort this mess out once in vo. well, you're paying commission president ursula, a bundle in propose, a kind of vision and moving forward that engage in some of the ideas that you just mentioned. uh, she offered 5 principals to guide the future of the gaza strip. those include no safe haven for terrace. no from athletic government, no long term is really security presence. no force displacement of palestinians and no sustain block a. what do you make of the proposal and does it fully represent what the european

people want were missing? so, so the presents knowing she essentially violated on principles of european democratic process by trying to israel and effectively cheerleading they what kinds of pieces are in the guys asleep? as for the precise proposal, which comes, i have to say that we have a duty not to take me just for 1000000000 sakes seriously, damn 25. the movement that i'm part of. we have a component and the petition for heading move will end dismissal. she's an embarrassment to get a being, she doesn't speak for you to be and she shouldn't be that should we should get through to her as quickly as possible. having said that, let's take the 5 points. you mentioned essentially what she's doing is she's playing the game. well, one thing out of the story that the stage solution by isolating gaza from the boulder problem or how to have 2 states living side by side. or if we

want to be more humanist and more them vicious, to talk about a single state that the secular and does not discriminate between jews and, and, and by the stance. she doesn't do that. she said that is as well and said that's fine, that sort of people guys know that sort of thing for the type state in westbank because you see allow me to ask you to go to the question, what if i'm us where to just disappear? yeah. signed to the ideas today. what happens then? what happens with the west bank, where we have settlers, as we speak, of throwing out the rising, killing, motivating, maiming palestinians and throwing them off their i'm system lamps. you have a brother stimulus already that has been completely accumulated and deprived of annual thought of you over the west bank. and you have a government which clearly says that they are going to alex the whole thing from the able to the see what this is from the like in suggestion for that just be with

the guys. and that is to become the useful idiot of many. i mean, the thing out that's home is what's left on the land is that's why we, europeans must band together and get through the earlier you talked about it, your long history and hatred of jews. the prosecution and persecution of use violence against use is this holocaust guilt that leads to this place of sort of not pushing back sufficiently against israel's policies and practices. i'm asking it partly because there's a, a poll conducted by political in 2021, but found that 41 percent of those polled and you've agreed that quote against the background of the history of the holocaust, europe. there's a special responsibility for israel in a 39 percent disagree, but 20 percent don't know me. that's a sizable number of people. and so it makes me wonder if that informs their decision to not some more strongly condemned israel's actions. possibly yes. there

is a very good reason why we hear bands bad the guilt over the whole coast. it is because we are responsible for it, not just the german announces the cut off, and that's is the greek knots is the and getting that's is the french. and that's all the collaborators we all play a small button up individually. but in terms of our culture, in terms of our nations, in uh, that uniquely even event in history, in the history of the world books, humanity, all the holocaust. but the question i put to my family get opinions, especially with my german friends. and i mean that those friends is this. how far must easily those ethnic cleansing of the palestinians proceed before our justified guilt over the holocaust no longer prevents us from challenging is the ethnic cleansing of the body standing. and so to put it

a bit more brutally how much published in black do we need to wash off the guild of the holocaust to the supervisor and, and the question, uh well, we have to have masses attack on is really civilians you refuse to condemn either from osborne and it's in yahoo, committing atrocities across israel, palestine instead of condemning either you condemned europeans and americans as you're doing very much today. as the true villains, we've been quote, making peace, impossible in israel palestine isn't really fair to offset all of these war crimes born to the west. however guilty we all may be shooting horizon is really government also be held accountable for their actions. of course they shouldn't be, but allow me to say that i am going to be in. if i were indian or chinese or south africa, or like an american, i wouldn't be saying what i said. but i think it'll be, and i am refusing to play the phone, the game, the other europeans play, especially i've got what comes in sending. they're looking at the people who are

now a suffering, both israelis and palestinians, and veterans. and there was in the land of engine by this time single. what do we get or bands do you know, we look down upon those people say, all you know, you and the most, you're killing each other. we're going to condemn you whether we condemn you know, the last week or the 2nd is well, the thing out, hold a pillow in the end, we, europeans look down upon them. i think we are superior. we're not superior. with infinity to me inferior. we of a centralized, have created colonialism. we have created the semi peers. we have created the mentality of imperialism. we are behind the mass that goes about being carried out by both sides. so we either lost people on this planet. it is going to reveal thought it be the more of the right of the high ethical standards that's with allow

us to bound up on these people and condemn them. i'm not going to play this game anymore. i called them everywhere. okay. but you know what? those who say to me why you don't come down, you have, as i said to them, when you lost your opportunity to, to ask me this question. the moment you waiting to condemn the coming of. i'm jealous by this thing in general, unless nobody's to be in general. this is a legitimate list is riley joyce. b socrative est to the women. old man. you lost the moment that you forgot you neglected to condemn that at this stuff day. this condemnation gave me any more. let jessica with us quickly. the very simple question. do we or do you not want to see from the verdict of a c? and i use this expression product category. do we want to see from the i don't care about is the by this thing or anything? do we want to see people who live without the fear of being killed with a, quote,

civil and political rights? what has happened to the united states in particular? have we forgotten that great civil rights marches in this night? these 6? this? why can't we have the same mentality about the line define this thing and start with one assumption that should be coming amongst civilized women. men, transgender, whatever we happen to be, and that is that there should be no discrimination, no apart hide in that bland how we're going to work it up, whether it will be 2 states, multi ethnic states, sitting side by side, one state for everyone that doesn't discriminate between jews between those palestinians, adams and so on. i don't care. let's begin with this. in the past few weeks, these things and the biggest pro palestine march has ever recorded both in europe and in the united states. has there been a shift in the public's attitude towards palestinians and if so,

would this lead to any kind of substantive government positions changing? not really. what do we have seen? is it through our expression of the feelings out there in the communities? the people who are viewed up in the majority have traditionally traditionally recognized the ethnic cleansing of the palestinians. since the not box is $94.00, that the majority of the french, the majority of the germans, the majority of the greeks, we always understood because as they always think about the sense that there was an attempt ethnically cleanse the people that do not see our governments shifting fast enough so that we would be able in the future to answer our grandchildren when they ask us, what did you do when the thousands of children in guys that were being mess it good in cold blood? what some governments have done and response has been to ban protesting, france,

germany, hungry, austria have all been solidarity protests with palestine. other european leaders of tried to deal legitimize them, framing them all as anti semitic, or extreme missed events. one german m p, even suggesting stripping non e u nationals of their right to protest. but how dangerous is this backlash for european civil rights and the global policy? i mean rights movement as a whole. we're look mouse, answer your person in question with an example. a few days ago, a friend who happens to be and he's writing to who lives in berlin. the stock is very good for me. the german constitution. the stop is what have constitutional rights. as it has been of germany, i should discover that the police cannot bind her from doing it. one person demonstrates that is standing in the middle of a square wave apply code which read as it needs to riley. and does it do i

say stop the general side of things. and she was that i need, i say more the moment we allow this to happen. the moment to allow our police force upon them. it's our instruments and organs of the state to the end is that i really do in the middle of believing that she's being at us. that because of the expression of a view which know it wasn't not even spoken, but it was written on a blackboard that is a very slippery slope to. to do things more bit on the summit this year. you have a white german police when i think a jewish woman who happens to be very as well in but i mean, and the 2nd thing that happens is the end of civil liberties, photos, sophia, october 7th. the tax has also been

a rise in anti semitism across europe. we've seen by the top cocktails thrown on a synagogue in germany. we since stars of david sprayed on residential buildings in france. there was a jewish cemetery desecrate in austria. this is all very worry. some stuff, however, some accusations of anti semitism have been against people who are simply criticising israel's human rights. reckon, for example, in response to amnesty international stating that war crimes had been committed by all parties. leroy high at this. what's the reason for these really ministry of foreign affairs called an amnesty, international anti semitic, and a quote propaganda organization that's working for him as terrorist. how does one thread the needle between dismissing the idea that all support for palestine is anti semitic? without the legitimize of the fact that there is a very real rise in anti semitic hate. crimes against jewish people going on, right? as we speak, whenever you have a tragedy, like the one on folding in the line to further sign is we have today the x themes

out of a great beneficiaries. on the one hand, the gross of the some lights, and all the other hand, the gross. i hate hate that it's a better stance. allow me to answer by means of a person story. i grew up in a fascist dictatorship, heating grace. weird cut on those. but i think of the ministry's, they were abominable. they were imprisoning. good democrats, we lived in fear for 7 years, only earlier, part of my life. now, whenever, as far as the gentleman, chances are of the time, the brunt. great ma'am. who decides the government? he was being accused by the greek freshest empowered here in athens as being on the greek and miss hailey. and that's right,

the december. uh whenever the greek confronted the fascist government visits and flashes government talked to him. i talked about him as a greek hating greek. this is what we have now happening across the what there is a concert, the propaganda effort to identify, to equate opposition to the thing act was fascist government and to the archive state, the t headsets so successfully created with of december the moment and you can relate to the, to an objection to f process, the research team which addresses jewish intellectuals, democrats, just as much as the openness is anyone else the moment you identify that group as of others seem without the same. it isn't. that is the greatest victory of, of the. so much and go back to the previous example with the eighty's have it's the

kind of a list the, the one that i referred to in berlin, the salad you that was arrested for protesting. isn't that the height of somebody sent me? it has to have a white gentleman, police officer, i think, and he's really do involving now a lot of yours as far right parties are providing unequivocal support for israel at the moment with those same parties often have a deep and long history of anti semitism themselves. for example, you have a marine, the pins, national riley party in france, which fully supported israel, but the party was founded by a former ss number and another founder depends on file that was convicted for minimizing the whole cause. it many a point it towards someone trends and one for right parties in hungary and poland and other places. how do you make sense of these trends? we're far right? parties have is incredibly powerful pro israel views,

but also in the deep histories of anti semitism. what is it, what right to nominate and it happens getting police do we have not says who are complaining actively on of the sent me to throw cuz they were even saving those disgusting pamphlets in volumes about c on and so on. the conspiracy theories are against the jews and now they can, you know, they are waiting these early flag and acting on the idea of to kill as many as soon as possible. you have this in the united states. you have an event, jellico movement which is of explaining the right wing it was extremely embassy, might take for 200 years in the united states. and suddenly they have made the extreme design. they position their masonic position where by gold, supposedly he's going to reappear in the father stein and that needs, that needs, that makes it necessary to expands all the palestinians from that land. this is

a was wiping them and it's very an interesting one. i think that, you know, since you all are just side kind of at least side guy, but he's going to have a nice day for the next on that he is expedited. but what, what do we see? what we see is you see, that's what really very simple flip of a switch, a foot on a rabbit, and descend it is to wrap it in symbol, a sum of all the because in the end what the out that i means is a group of people to be more nice. it's so happened that it was the jews. now it can be anything is going to be the syrians and can be the palestinians and could be, you know, the belgians, it doesn't really matter. they need a scape goat. they need to be able to point other people to say if these people with advocated like would be here. this is what giblets did in the 19 twenties and $0.90 so successfully with the jews being targeted and being the victims. today's happening files by the same

people without giving the jews they are now targeting audience americans and so on . so the greatest enemy is of fascism that requires scape goats. the fact that the goal, the flip flop between different target groups is notation. i wanna ask you about something else of european countries have long been involved with sending weapons to israel. the back home international piece of research institute found that italy and germany have supplied israel's military with crucial weapons and equipment that is now being used on the ground in guys. the u. k. has helped both of these really air force while germany has sent tank stage real as well. there's a lot of awareness of u. s. military aid to israel. we talk about it all the time. we talked with the billions that we send. but how underplayed is europe's direct military assistance to israel severely. and it takes 2 forms. you

mentioned one form selling is a weapon. this is the 2nd phone buying weaponry from you, sir, because it is a major producer of a weapon as well. and not just the lease of weaponry, but also spyware. think of it or so my government hitting raise the, the government of the 75, because i oppose they purchased better though. they've used it against their political opponents. they didn't even use it despite one on one another. so is this location in the international trade, all surveillance, and lisa weaponry is, is a very important location. and you to is an active support. the place now to those who are watching us and within yes, but you must have is a survive. my message to you folks is, is a, is not in danger. how mass?

yes, they have a capacity to inflict a lot of pain on these are, but it is not a present and clear danger for these early state is a is a tremendously powerful state. it's a nuclear state. it's called an ami onto the thief and technologically and good to be advised. there is no way that these really amik a news to anyone. only the palestinians being ethnically cleansed and they are very clear guidelines by that is really government supported by the west to get rid of them. finally do it at the gave them from the gaza strip from jerusalem and from the west bank and his back pocket. thank you so much for joining me in upfront. appreciate your insights as always. i think it's all right, that is our show upfront. we'll be back later this week

the as the war on gaza escalate, which is 0 is correspondence request. last night with a noise from the house complete blackouts. that's all situations are very, very wave here you do have the air strikes in the area as well. troops now are trying to push forward deep into the gauze. tread 11 soldiers have been confirmed as killed during that time devalue are considered to be one of the most densely populated refugee camps. and the goal is to step this neighborhood has been completely destroyed. stay with us for the latest developments on i'll just say around exploring diverse culture. exciting,

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