lead a dangerous genocidal idea to invoke that. israel's fluoride government has freedom the war and gaza added people as a fight to get good and evil light and darkness. a familiar rhetoric invoking the mace of just war during the brutal impact of 75 years of reputation and the 1st month in my zone and mine and billy one single me behind them is on the well i think that they don't. some is really a waves, there appear to be no editorial, red lines that have not been crossed the cause, the result because i've seen that as i've seen or could come up with some issues, be able to not sufficient different thousands of family patients. i'd be to pay out shotwell middle school and also to seal yes. name in your head. see if i don't need to let

a they say you have to see if i don't know, show beginning beds. and it's not because they didn't say nothing because of the incendiary rhetoric of ethnic cleansing and genocide of palestinians normalized on live television by pundits and petitions. of like, active a say, this type of explicit language of hate. i'm revenge, is repeated in thousands of posts online. we use the next id and then a few days ago, over a 1000000 conversations, the violence, an ex and on man. the good i'm we, this is one of those nations that calling for the, for, for the inside months or by a man's, including like flattening guns, the main goal is not getting delayed, being the worst kind of a inside point that you can imagine is that the effects of the problems to get

inside are already being filled across israel, in races, chance, and songs and even comedy sketches, seemingly normalizing the dehumanization of palestinians. and israel's war crimes. bianca group the odds here. well that's not bringing the wind rabbani. he is a non resident fellow at the center for conflict, injury, monetary and studies, and the co editor joe, the lia, when thank you for joining me here on to 0. what do you make of the turn of the conversation at the moment? we were just hearing that from pre owned cars, reports about all that, the rhetoric that's been used is that a mit store of this hatred and this anger and this desire for vengeance is a space for any constructive dialogue. you know, and i think what we should focus on is not just what's being said, but also who was saying. so, i mean, here you have the most senior military and political leaders and israel,

referring to palestinians as human animals, dehumanizing and de, legitimizing them in every way. and that really raises the question of not only how can peace be achieved, but can piece be achieved. now with this, these leaders and this type of regime, i mean it reminds me a little bit of post world war 2 where you have to have an intensive process of the notification in germany for example. um, and in the absence of that you couldn't have had peace in europe, south africa, you know, without rooting apartheid written branch out of the system. now piece in that country was inconceivable. and so the question that needs to be asked is, can you have peace in the middle east with this kind of regime persisting and surviving and even getting stronger with all the support it's getting from the west

. and you say we need to listen very closely to the what's being offered, particularly who is offering them you as well. can i ask you then to how does reflect on what we've just had from us on the hunt come off as spokes you in his last. perfect awesome. well, i would start by pointing out that was on a home. that is a political leader of one of the parties directly involved in this conflict. and therefore, any, any factual information in particular that you hear from someone from the i'm should be treated as on verified unless and until independently corroborate cold. but that applies equally to, for example, all the claims israel is making about and patients and staff and a shift hospital and, and, and what i have difficulty understanding is you have doctors, you have staff, you have patients, you have refugees in a ship, a hospital, uniformly informing the world that they are being expelled from and ship

a hospital. the gun points by rampaging is rarely soldiers. then you have is really spokespeople signal. actually, we were trying to bring in cookies and soft drinks before you know, putting them in a business class to take them out of the hospital and, and much of the media is treating this as a he said, she said, rather than understanding that in, in one instance, people directly affected who have no ulterior motives or giving a store and then you have these really army, which is clearly trying to promote a false and that right because they uh, fast had witnesses. what, who are living there for socially? precisely. so we know that was not to right, and there is one wedge that has been repeatedly mentioned, especially in the last few days. and now by $36.00, you in special references as well that what is genocide? yes, that is the mentioning of that. what is that changing the conversation,

or is that perhaps stein meeting action because people are scared to use it? well, again, i'm, i'm not an international lawyer. so i defer to those who are and who has a much better understanding of this term and its requirements. and its meaning, and what i would say is, as you've just pointed out, it's increasingly the alarm is increasingly being raised. either people asserting that we are witnessing genocide or that we are in a situation which can very easily become one of genocide and under these conditions, immediate action is required. but what we're seeing instead is we have the international community to i'm the one hand calling for an immediate cease fire calling for measures to prevent further from the national can you know, the international community as a body. if you look at the recent you in general assembly show solution that was your monetary and pauses. yes, but no, there was a general assembly, sir. yes,

the general assembly, the court and the international community. and it's very clear, overwhelming majority voted for a cease fire. and then you have a small number of nations, western governments who like to pretend that day in fact to the international community. although they are a small in increasingly isolated minority on the world stage. and for them, it's, you know, israel having a right to self defense, it doesn't exist under international law, unqualified support for israel, so they are in fact directly complicit. and anything that is happening in because of strep, and in the west bank, i should, they may be a minority, as you say, but certainly they're, they're very, very powerful. well, yes, and i'm sorry, i misspoke you over to the general assembly versus for us. he's fine, but the security council, it's very powerful members, all the ones who was said humanitarian boys. no mention of the spot. yes. now let me honest that my, my previous question is in a different way, given the amount says of bloodshed that we've seen over the last 6 weeks,

the amounts of bloodshed we've seen in the last 24 hours hits on a school. yes, move in full people, the multiple schools. we've seen this throughout the conference and all of this just in the last 24 hours, the evaluation about si fi, one of dispatch. it does any of this now shift public opinion or shift any kind of opinion enough to shift action. it will certainly have an impact on public opinion . and on official opinion, if you look at the, the international community's broadly understood. but when you're talking about the small minority of never the less as you point out, very powerful governments, there is no amount of palestinians suffering or murdered palestinian civilians that will lead them to change their policy independently of other factors . for those governments, it's a cost benefit, calculation tough to what extent are their interests, whether political or military or economic affected or not affected. and ultimately

it will be that rather than any pulse to me body count or any genocide event that will determine their policies and, and therefore i think generating and mobilizing and increasing and expanding. public pressure on them is, is important. although i should add on, it's probably going to have more of an effect in countries in europe, for example, which were governments for a variety of reasons, tend to be more responsive to publish opinion than a country like the united states. where, you know, most people don't vote where on the political process is basically owned by corporations and lobbies and where democracy is, i think, much more superficial and shallow than it is, for example, in many european countries. so it's all about trying to to change the calculus in order to stop the war and that would have to happen in order for the fios and and that can happen in various ways when we're bonnie, thank you so much for joining me on an hour. they are

a non resident fellow at the center for conflict on humanitarian studies. thank as well, you are watching out a 0. let's remind you of our top story of the south. at least 50 people have been killed and those really attack on the alpha core. a school in northern casa, now this is the united nations run school in the devali, a refugee account. and another score, a tele zone, so has also been attacked by is rarely forces without a 0 gain access to the alpha core, a school in the off them off of that is really attack the said for who we are entering through alpha kuda you in school one time, 2000 to solve internally displaced, palestinians phone bay con moon. and bait la here is now totally deserted and that's thousands of families took refuge in their own raw school building. asked me at 200 innocent civilians. mostly women and children were killed of the night. as

a result of his writing, the solid tax of you need for food. who can show where you can clearly see the off the math. so these ready will planes pounded these costs rooms hundreds of unsuspecting families with sheltering with this same location and gps coordinates on know into these right. the occupation forces, as we speak on board, meant resumes in the vicinity of the school decimals for him. and it's kind of cool with the students with many of the displays came from the north villages and even nearby hospitals when they were forced to leave in the middle. so it's not a later that they you can see the only individual remaining. tell us what happened the country to how many till i don't know exactly, but for sure it's more than $0.50 and how about injury must the same or even more

and this is on way. do you think they left to most probably towards the south and when i should have these all the positions of the displace palestinians who took shelter in the school or the status of blood body parts and remains. all of all the families of is riley is being held captive by her loss and gaza and launching to prime minister benjamin netanyahu. his residence, hundreds of purchased as again not launch from tel aviv to west, to receive them on tuesday. they're demanding the government do more to secure their relatives. a release of out of there is a higher up. is that with those purchased as in west or risk them for us? sorry you were telling us earlier that they've now arrived at nothing. yahoo assignment's been a long walk for the for these protesters. yeah, that's right. it's taken 5 days to come all the way from kind of these many of

those families. and those that are supporting them said that not only wasn't physically demanding but mentally as well. many of the families of those outcomes have in gaza have already lost the members of the families, the during the october 7 attack. and now the head in front of the prime minister's office for benjamin netanyahu to mon thing, to be able to meet with the war cabinet. they want to, hong says they said they want to know what the time is moving forward. many of them say that they felt abandoned on october the 7th, and they don't want that to be happening again. you can see here that they're all flags. there also some of those causes with the names and ages of those that were taken. now we spoke to one person that's in touch with the family and they said that some of those in the government haven't even met the family to let them know what the situation is,

what. how far they've reached in terms of the negotiations as some of them upset that they had what the us thoughts is on this what, how much has had to stay on those negotiations. but when it comes to the governments plan moving forward, best still last in the dog. and so many of those here, it's been a very difficult traumatizing experience for them. they said with every day the hosses, it becomes even more difficult. and of course, the death of those that have been brutes over in the last few days where they are now. that has caused some a loss of concern because they don't want that to happen to their own family members, especially as those as strikes are still continuing and even the whereabouts they said they have no idea where they all at just yes. and that's why the head today injures, then tens of thousands of them. the estimate is between 102-523-0000. that's supposed to be

a will cabinet meeting in less than 2 hours with the families here. but all they keep saying, and everyone we've spoken to so far has said they want to concepts, they want immediate offices and they went, all of those concepts are being held brutes back alliance. so highlights that with those protest as for us in west jerusalem reporting live. thank you very much so well, i spoke to her, it's calling us gideon levy from tel aviv. he says he is really government is likely to face increasing public pressure unless more efforts are made to secure the release of those captives. and then there was quite cold morning among or most of the orders. right is but there is no agreement. what should be the price paid? because everyone ones the hostage will be released. the question is, if is a made up his mind and shows between crushing come us or releasing those dentures. until now, this choice was not necessary because we seen it seems that the army continues

visits, the airports to crash come us and the hostages. uh, not heritage. but these might be a moment. images are really have to choose. and then i'm not sure that wouldn't be such a consensus. it is very public opinion. my guess will be the big above defense waiting place for christian come over releasing those pages. it's very interesting to say about get in. i was looking at some opinion polling israel off top type of the 7, and suddenly at the end of october is really is, was sounding very viscous. in one poll from tel aviv universities piece index. the numbers are remarkable. 49.8 percent. so nearly half the respondents said that at that point, isabel had used to level 5 power. 33.5 percent said it was appropriate. i mean, not to move and 80 percent of people saying that the bombing has been either okay or not enough, hasn't changed at all since then. unfortunately, no,

it's not at all. because you must remember, as i keep on saying kids in your programs, most of these ladies are not exposed to what's going on and go. so these are the media is that hor, except of very few exceptions, is not exposing. these varies to the hardly seems from gaza and therefore public opinion lucian piece was everything that goes on there is the say, decided to publish, does have to everybody. sure. come us to chris, come us the cause of what's happened on the 7th. and nobody sees the bright say, and when you don't, you're not exposed williams, it's much easier for me. the more important to you to support to continue. so this a thick you say that then is randy is have been hearing very, very little about what's happening in gaza. i'm in the is really media. i'm curious about what you've been hearing if anything

a tour about. but the latest is really strikes, especially on hospitals and schools in residential areas, to visit the people that understand this is happening. yeah, the understand that it's happening, but we oppose. julie said, we know that this framing is, is what makes us and is most of the news programs and it's read dealing only with that is rarely sacrifice. and there is some kind of flip surveys to show some kind of photos, some kind of footage from. does that very show that the old red carpet we say come in threes a pending cost, that those very ma'am terror centers. and so was the outcome of these that you could live in? peace was everything that happens there because we have the right to protect ourselves and what is happening there is also terrible. oh, if i watch your network or some others, both, something's initial netflix,

i must say. then you can really get the re a big truck. and this is the most things. the dozens of us house democrats have called on the, by the administration to press israel to the fuel into casa, my kind of has come from washington. dc. protest is gathering outside the democratic national committee building and dc. calling on role makers to press were c spy in gaza that dispersed by police folks and not building the folks and democratic leadership have not been listening to that. 80 percent of us going inside last, some democrats to start to, to listen here. a group of the parties, progressives, appear on the podium. thank you all for being here with the act to this rep, vice with c spine, no movement. we are calling for an end to the violence, not a break, and the violence. here monitoring pause is not enough. we will not be afraid. we

will not back down. we will demand more of our president. we will demand better of our presidents. yeah. and increasingly it's not just progressives in the party who are disturbed about israel's action in gaza. and the occupied westbank 48 democratic members of congress signed this letter sent to the secretary of state, demanding that the administration press israel to stop restricting fuel deliveries into gaza. arguing the lack of energy could result in a mess of public health crisis. among the signatories, 3 jewish representatives of the logistic going to that there's a mock change in what was initially unqualified support. israel in the us congress . and the change is not that israel should not exist in that israel doesn't have a right to exist in that israel does not have a right to defend itself. but that also there needs to be more of

a balance in more of a vocal approach to the plight of palestinians to date the bite and administration has launch the power to the israeli governments line on a number of issues. in particular, the opposition to a ceasefire. the, the question is, how long can i take? no, the voices of rank and file democrats let alone. what polls indicate is an increasing number of voters. well cooling for a reset in us israel policy by kind of out your 0 washington or you and human rights experiences. i was saying earlier doing the international community to prevent genocide against the palestinian people in gaza. the few 6 special rap portez sites, an increasing evidence of genocide will incitement event and tend to destroy the palestinian people under occupation and indiscriminate attacks resulting in a cold awful death toll. they went on to say,

many of us already raise the alarm about the risk of genocide and gaza. we are deeply the stopped by the failure of governance, the heat cold and to achieve an immediate cease fire. we also profoundly concerned about the support of sets and governance. israel strategy will fit against the besieged population of cause and the failure of the international system to mobilize to prevent genocide as well to monitor and agencies also warning now that's cause a residence to face. the threat starvation and disease as winter temperatures approach for a challenge takes a lot of the hour by a family, waits for winter in the rubble of what was once that how to amounts to feed include image and his wife come of 6 children. the daughter in law and 2 grandchildren and the temperature is starting to full last last minute bit to fill the solomon. i tell you the truth. i slept the house with the clothes only way to pray my door for

suffering from the cold. and i swear i come by her winter clothes, they sleep with other sheltering families as a you in school, in southern gaza, spots. they prefer the days of their shots at home. and this has been adult since the mother as the when the oh i'm going to the now we come here to escape the noise, the diseases and the flu that people suffer from at the school. we find our house more comfortable. although we were afraid of the bombing this is an intimate view into a humanitarian disaster on a vast scale. and one that is entirely man made for you and is human rights office says 1600000 people and gods i have been displaced at at least 41000 times. destroyed the yes i had to do so good. that's good because i lost my cards, i lost my notebook, i lost everything. we lost on home, our shelter. everything is gone. but thank god we go to school and i'm not afraid.

even if i'm killed, it's our case, or lodge or in gods hands. the law, religion, how kids the homeless to the secondhand clothes on off the in rafa are expensive and winter, whereas hard to find the generosity of strangers can make all the difference. no, we haven't had a gun. and people gave my son jumper. he was with me in the street wearing a jumper. unsure, a shopkeeper then saw him and felt sad. he gave him a bit of trousers and said, he's like, my son, and he's home. oh, such conditions, a soul crushing, besieged the world and ruins all the people have gone as a half. now is each of the lieutenants? how does 0 gentlest around me? i believe i'm was left his home in northern casa, off to being given 13 minutes notice to evacuate. to find these rarity on me,

he says, the shooting. it doesn't even stop while they were leaving, even though they were waving white flags. now this is a recording of the johnny that rami made with his 2 year old son. the same thing to the whole she do, i don't know. you do but uh, yeah, i live on the ship them fishery obama to the the brother, enjoy the most of my what do you have? no, no. who do i tell you why do you decide? is this the 1st, the yellow,

the image of us we've of this is if you have the idea of is you be shipping, would you be shipping the, the because she's kind of like, you know, the name of the baby. and so there is no issues quality above the

social issue of a new one. she's on google the the demo disorder should oh, most of mortgage of auditors or what? and what is the uh, what you oh, that was john list rami a is on was on his 2 year old son will lead, fling that home they are now in con eunice, that's in the southern part of the gaza strip. a while that said for me and associates, hey, you can always find much more on our website out. is there

a dot com 3 and i will get it will have more for you in just a few minutes about continuing special coverage at the war one cause the, the stream is back and you can be part of it doing me oddities forces in the rest of the team for a 1st hand look beyond the headlines and have a say on how your stories told. for new voices and unique perspective. the stream on i'll just say are as the situation in gaza escalated, you expert analysis. this is not a convention of war between 2 armies institute through states. this is a symmetric award. these really all means is not purposely so to kill children. unfortunately, children can be the casualties of the wall, the test. in real time, we really only taking them to call of the task. this government is mostly

to solve to, as you said, that it wouldn't be ne, without justice for a fast and stay with us for the latest development on out. just anyway i'm, it's the world slow down. we stand for as homes, with kids, of global nickel reserves. indonesia is points to leave the global, the battery industries. we definitely manage our abundant resources and play a role in solar energy harness the offerings 75 percent of global carbon credits, essentially submitted by mental protection, enhancing investments alignment digital licensing, your better tomorrow between the 18 hundreds and as recently as the 1990s in canada, over a 150000 children were taken from their homes and forced into schools that stripped them of their identity and too often their life. as the search for unmarked graves

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