tv Inside Story Al Jazeera November 22, 2023 11:30am-12:00pm AST
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the big issue at the new democratic nations justified this type of behavior is not piece that is being talked about. it is more unfortunate questions, rigorous debate. we are the kinds that must, that goes to the bean, got it out by both sides. clinton, yahoo is to go and there was collateral damage this collateral damage. that's more t p 's leading to what we're seeing now in the ground or solution upfront or algebra. israel to on guys that has brought catastrophe to 2300000 times. hundreds of thousands of things for some mounds, some left with just the plastic tends for shelter. over the weekend to buy was what fresh dangers best when to bring for the people. this is inside the
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hello and welcome to the program. i'm fully back people destruction, worse than any natural disaster has ravaged guys that already suffering from under years of he's really brocade and hostility. intense bombing has wiped out in ty, areas, forcing hundreds of thousands of palestinians. many of them refugees to move, but there is no way to go. a central medicines, food, water, fuel and basic supplies don't exist 2 days or as total siege of the territory surviving and guys as di, conditions is a bottle in itself. winter presents even more challenges and dangerous not just on the cold, but from the risk of disease with no functioning sanitation or water treatment assistance. so how will palestinian scope this winter in a time of war will be asking, i guess in a few moments, but 1st, you know, 5 has this report from southern casa, over 1500000 people in the gaza strip have been displaced. and over 160000,
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the homes has been completely destroyed. it is really a tax forcing all these people. if it's been tense, the can protect them from the blowing wind or the bitter cold and with no protection against the rate. the i know more funny. yeah, well i never had a shot. we have no blankets, no mattresses, or even pillows. and we have no water supply, which was for water from 5 areas. and sometimes we have to buy the water to drink. our life is tough, it's tragic. israel has imposed a full it's total located on because the strip says the beginning of this work, no food supplies with clothes, fuel, or cooking gas has entered for the residents in gaza for almost 2 months now. i brought with all my son to the civil lawson and they are still fighting. now here we have no food. we have no water. we have normally this in will have nothing. we are buying this notice. so believe me. oh man, the shy but full of see them of them. the charge of these for the entire policy and
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population are tense of flow and the rain was a fell on the young, an old, the kids the 6th. and so it rained cold and flu is and i'm diabetic and they have blood pressure and can't even get my medication. i can't even will because of my leg pain and the cold struggle for food. walter, proper shelter, edwards, are it's challenging reality for the residents in because the strip, as the weather gets colder and winter approaches, you're gonna see it. rain side story. can you and is in the solving causes stress. before we introduce panel, let's speak to dr. margaret harris, who spokesperson for the world health organization and is joining us from geneva. dr. harris. thank you very much for your time. can you tell us 1st, how bad is the health situation? healthy emergency in gaza is currently in how much worse when it get in the winter . a thank you funny. i could hardly describe it as misery been piled on misery.
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it's catastrophic in so many ways because as the needs rise from the terrible cross injuries, the because the of the types of lambs, the multiple complex fractures due to well the foaming at the hospital supply, which is reducing as fewer fuel hospitals are able to function their loss power but they've also been damaged bible, but they've lost stuff. we've lost more than 200 doctors now on top of that because it's not so crowded because there is such poor condition because they lack food. and because a lot was, are in that they are unable to wash themselves or drink clean water. we're seeing huge rises in infectious diseases, particularly in the real diseases diarrhea. well, diseases are going up exponentially, the grass looks like that. and we're really concerned about children under the 5.
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we're seeing that the suffering, it's increased $31.00 times more than you would expect in children on to 5. also it adults $104.00 times greater than you would expect. and we're getting a 14 time increase in what i cool, cool, lucky, diarrhea when we describe it, but it really needs what people understand as decent tree really dreadful disease try. dr. harris says winter is approaching what new health stages are the people of guys facing? so again, the donor rear is one of his. why does this, but this would happen in winter or somebody you're right, but they will also signature drive and restore transactions. and you know, the costs and calls come in the cold weather, but mostly because people are crowding together, but it's the conditions of favor costs and calls. and again, you've got people who are malnourished, especially small children. what might be a call for a code for you or i is a this sentence in children who are already suffering from malnutrition and simply
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from the stress and helps again, we're going to see rising heart disease and, and punch attacks because this is a population that hadn't slipped for 5 weeks, that are suffering tremendously mentally. right. and so what is the requires you monetary and response today? dr. howard is with the winter approaching and how is w h o helping the people of costs? so the few military and responses a to a, the main way in which we are helping us to support the hospitals and try to get in as many supplies as possible. as you know, that's very, very limited by what spring allowed in. it's also limited by the fact that there is no safe place in gaza. so all teams have to take tremendous risk just to be able to get supplies and get help to people. so until that is a ceasefire. the level of help that's needed, really kind of be mobilized. i mean there are 15 international teams that want to
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come in and help, but they can't come in until it's safe. dr. margaret harris spokesperson for the world health organization. thank you very much for joining us. on inside story, that's a pleasure to be with you, the let springing, i guess. now for today's inside story, in con eunice, in southern gaza is months or schumann about us and in canadian, who's chosen to stay in gaza to tell the world about what's happening there in ramallah. and you all can find westbank is my one gilani director general of the palestine red crescent society and a former palestinian diplomat and danger. hattiesburg is a doctor match gilbert a doctor and doctor is who has undertaken sally down to work with palestinian since the 1970s. gentlemen, thank you all for being on inside story. thank you very much for joining us months or and gather. let me start with you. you are in con eunice in southern gaza, described to us if you will. the situation you find yourself in today as winter
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begins to set in, in gossip together with 1500000 the rescue jews were i've been displaced from the city, the north offer of the split and different spots of one bought. that house is here in the south in san eunice and then all fi are we are currently living in solver human conditions. mean for example, i've been lucky, i've been had the tents made for me here in the media center of what i am volunteering. however, others wouldn't as so many people are living on the streets, living in playgrounds, so many have have also live in the very crowded schools which have said that you actually do census with women and children come into one classroom and the men stay outside. i've seen with my own eyes over the last 3 days, 7 and 9 may, 10 stuff had been vested,
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and 3 things. the women and children and men paused and shivering. right now with this be the, the temperatures reaching the single digit temperatures, try hospitals over how, how cold does it get in gaza months, or how would you normally prepare for winter in guys or when there is no war the cutter, to date this, to this war? the end of that is that it's my to reach the i don't one or 0 degrees, maybe negative one, they get this to it today to these nose a. but the people normally would be inside that house and they would, they would have heaters next to the computers heater finds the etc. so they were able to keep warm within that house and they would also have proper that's why a proper close to however it give it the numbers that have this nice been displaced, leaving everything behind that, including the winter, those over the last 6 weeks,
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you can see where things are like now a yeah, a very dire situation. you describe them and so my one gilani and rolanda. let me come to you. 2 thirds of guys this population are estimated to a flight. their homes many are in the south, is meant to explain their living. it makes shift tens um how much where it says things going to get for these people as the window sets in it right now it is quite the task sophie on, on hold for us. not only for the people in the software are overcrowded, and then it says, your previous guest said more than 1500000 displays, but also for the hundreds of thousands who have remained in done all living in destroyed homes, living in the states, nowhere to shelter from the rain or the cold, and mostly the homes are partially or to to the damage, not much belongings to people to keep the trip in the head of the day and the sick,
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wrong protecting count in the saw. we can't find even insurance for our whole stop or a low numbers, the drivers and, and by monday, so have evacuated to the saw. we are looking for places to host them when you have so many people house in the states and share this with no saving call, nor on top of the head, no, the tire, they were forced to leave only with what they have on, in terms of gloss, and just let it pass on now belongings and it is getting cold. it is getting called in and with water eh, with water drain water, but also with the lack of stations diseases quite spread out. yeah. the strength to the on those be, let's find out from dr. match gilbert about the diseases that i for the, for rating and guys are right now. talk to my husband and what new diseases could
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we see as winter approaches in casa when i think, yeah, both the absolutely right. i think the most pressing program from medicare point of view statement is the security for the population because i'm big, it's increasing. i would just call the body shop, you saw the bunk being all the all of the hospital and the keeling. i'll get another doctor to doctor see i'll talk, treat to the attrition as he was treating to the transportation. so security is a major concern that i totally an agreement that this combination of lower temperature, precipitation range. and when it says that leads ripped to these 400500000, i come from the way i am and what is happening there with the height of 30, i submit it, go very dangerous conditions. and when you get, when it's when they have the temperature, that's the forecast. this drops down to 111214 in the night. and you have this been
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a combination of being what we have low temperature. it does not take many hours for trying to get to critically hypothermic. so that is a major threat to all these one point. 5000000 people also the adults. and then of course, it's altered. our troops alter, isn't critical, minimal resource. so before we even bought the i bought by area and other diseases, we have to in some ways present that people are facing to the server site to this. and i'd like to leave it before i can just read to you. i got a message from a company again from you and it's just been working in the arkansas patrol and he wrote me yesterday and he said for the situation is very, but these are not just this year, which is the situation is very bad. the seas from you fail. i'm just, i'm sorry, of the lack of water golf saw is slowly buying and a wage unknown future. he said, but he experienced dr. and he sees what is around him as a disaster,
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major sized because of these basic things that ought to be the 9th, the policy now keeping us dr. much, what kind of mitigation message from a medical point of view would you undertake under normal circumstances? you know, if there wasn't a war as the cold approaches in guys the winter approaches you've been there many times, what kind of mitigation efforts could you have taken? well, 1st of all, human security, which is the main predictor of how you're gonna secure a deep water down to get in. and we must have a ceasefire. and then i want to a large emphasis on getting shelter to get shelter from the women, the transportation, more drugs, moving blankets, don't get enough food. but all drugs should have dirt and security are the dominating needs now. and then we should not forget that these really alteration of forces have to be made of these the number of hospitals in golf i,
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according to the show from the 36, that's where operating in the on october 8 to now twins be a promo customer to find only a part of the 2 of them in the north and the in addition of the both being at tech . so the tool structure, the infrastructure or the health care system in golf at both for those who may be adding more words. but also as was mention diabetic personal talk attention, psychiatric patients, my part of the information, all the medical needs in a population of 2200000 is, does not have any possibility to be met because of this multi destruction let's, let's discuss and take a closer look at at why israel has been targeting the medical system in gaza and i want to quote you an opinion piece and title. let's not be intimidated by the world . by retired is really major general g r a non to argues that old palestinians in
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guys are legitimate targets and that is severe epidemic in gaza. will bring victory closer. here's a quotation way, says exactly the way to win the will faster and at a lower cost requires a system collapse on the other side and not the media killing of mole. i'm asked fighters, the international community says one's i. so the you monetary and disaster in gaza and of severe at the dentist, we must not shy away from this as difficult as that may be. after all, sylvia. academics in the south of the gaza strip will bring victory closer and reduced casualties among the soldiers. and not, this is not about cruelty for cruelty sake, since we don't support the suffering of the other side as an end. but as a means my one get on a when you hear such a coat, what do you make of it?
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is israel deliberately targeting guys is health system? yes. so do we have these things we have listed reaction to such statements, not from fixed operations on us, but also from kind of says it is high, fine. it is horrifying. the site and i'm less money out of this drive as a junior side against the posterior people in guidelines as a whole. but let me also say that the destruction of the sector was delivered. it was delivered in targeting 1st of all, and accusations to justify which are proven to be bored, wrong. they have accused us at the eclipse hospice in our hospital that has how about if i had comments or whatsoever i'm not single. that is, is that a kind of, i think the purpose of destroying the sector is because i had a 2nd touch is, is a main per the, for the city. and so people for the state in foster as of the people in guys
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a to stay with the so i'm just trying to have sex that people have nowhere to go to, to, to treat the one. want to say this. so they would have to be forced to go to the south about this. i think the main intentions behind the armies destruction deliver the destruction of the has the headset or the findings. yeah. go ahead. i think a lot to much said about city. i think it is i only the whole world is pushing for more humanitarian aid, especially when underwood decided to stop and never know if you would. but they have, they have said nothing about that hospital top, not the receive a dual fuel which is essential for the life saving people in the hospital. so it takes 2 to 4 people at the hospital to die. but we, we provide you with assistance with the fluid then going to,
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to come to come in. this is quite soon, it comes from higher, right? yeah, i find the fuel fuel is indeed crucial. talked about that. i want, i want to bring you inch quickly to react to the the is really targeting hospitals . my one says this is deliberate. do you agree as well? there is no numbers. this is the latest report from the health cluster, and they don't do you mind a $150.00 to a tax on healthcare inc. outside during the last 5 weeks, i have been there for so many years. they've always to talk to healthcare. and this quote that you read, it's precious to stop. it's cruel preciousness and it's a, it's a crime against humanity. you know, they civically calculate that people shall get sick and die for otherwise durable diseases and was, and they have been systematically affecting health care providers, hospitals, crime realtor, linux, i'm so this is the sort of the, i just went through my,
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my files and i, the report from 22 that documented a for a text on after. also when the west bank don't forget they do the same. so this is, this is really a system i think should make a way to kill the public policy. then people, it is that the politics of elimination, nothing this and don't forget, i mention they have destroyed 28 tons of those and go so they're killing people by denying them after months or in guys that your thoughts about what we just heard and talk to us about the needs of the people in 7 guys a today. as we mentioned, many moved from north to south, the southeast, very much congested today, healthcare facilities. they're also overwhelmed. what, what do people need, or is it a god spell the, the same by the is it able to ship? it says the veteran yourself warranty but not surprising. i mean, is there a guest fed? they've done this repeatedly for many decades. no, probably getting civilians and civilian until sparks and as soon as banking for
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a 1967, i know that time to repeat another crisis by forcing trying to force the people it was that they you can finance it up. so in order to then set up and if he can hear despite all of these challenges on demand, and that's faster than what all is high, they believe the right side of history. and despite everything they're going through, we want to remain strong. however, as you can see, for example, i'm not waiting anyone to grow, so i know i haven't been able to find any of the shots. so that off of the board that needs to open a stream of supports, again for more spots with the large quantity and quality. all things that she actually needs viewed is number one, number 2 options related to those things related to instead of the most, i was talking to the doctor about how much the quotes, both the director of the off because he had in the district and the emergency
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executive director did, they both said that the stuff, the doctor is necessarily been 247. they have gone out of medical supplies that i've seen as soon as possible for a fee is hospital to be in regards for the eclipse, with dr. supplies the nurses, etc, in order to try to avoid any kind of medical emergency or a busy splitting amongst the visions here a model on in ramallah, i know you've been coordinating some of the 8 operations before this war, some 500 a trucks used to go into gaza. what is what you know, what, what's the latest as far as a going in, whether it's where the roof of glossing or else way and what are the most immediate needs right now? you mentioned fuel, of course, but as when to comes to gaza. what, what would you like to see these a, it's a truck. scary. i was waiting on it for prioritizing right now. and it seems that com needed for the people to keep long. so going to close the top of things to
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cover, you know, those people who are stay in boss or they just selection dyslexic, just destroyed homes. and we're asking for blankets and mattresses in order to provide for the people who are also stay constant and to see. but we also, we're also asking and working with money partners, administration, garza and many local buttons to provide more shelters. scores and community buildings, public uh buildings included that to accommodate all those people who are forced to, to feel free to, to the, to the south. but at the same time we are also starting to see a few hospitals. wait, wait, wait, change. in the next 2 days to establish a few hospitals in partnership with the top of the crescent. and we're expanding it together with them and it still has the number of bits in the hospital. it's in the saw. we need at least
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a minimum of $500.00 more bits in terms of capacity for those hospitals to deal with the influx of the engines, and they don't want them to see the coming from them. so we are, we are privatizing the items that are coming in and we are also expanding to handle the sector in order to deal with the increased demand on the life saving the service. all right, optimize your thoughts. what is a required to monetary and response today also there's a lot of talk about a ceasefire, perhaps in the coming hours behind a terry in core doors and so on. how soon? how desperately need it is, is today. and guys, the problem is so critical. every hour accounts now every hour challenge, and i agree with my sure the health care workers and go so the problem statement after workers, the names with golden letters into the history books, they are extremely brave and some are the people of gossip. what is what we saw
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really and very upset the is that the world leaders 0, the leaders of the american the, there's the interesting thing going side. and watching this disaster on the phone, they buying date of the numbers of 2 and dying from one step to that be treated autumn. i don't think they bind they s these really impact sources. are the ministry destroyed, attracting health care oh regatta and they do nothing. one nation the the break thing, jordan flew into heart less impressed from their air force and dropped the fee loss though and feel medical equipment. yeah. why, why such an operation not being related? you want to as well but. 1 i mean, the point is to use this, this word, you just used it aloud to get them. why is it that is for us the only nation on earth test based on the international humanitarian chromeboys, international humanitarian system,
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desktop applied to the people of pablo. so why is that accepted? why do eastern no more for each of these killing feeds because this the seats are 2, this is just killing people as we speak. so i wonder why why this is that the more government are trying actively to break the siege. and i'm on a positive side health care workers all over the world are now standing up and saying protects the health care even gonna protect the patients. i participated in the demonstration today in, in cape town, a large demonstration outside the biggest pediatric hospital. hundreds of healthcare workers do the mono duty that the leaders in europe and united states don't do, namely, stand up perfect, perfect. so patients and healthcare workers, i'm going to come to you for the final question, months or as we've discussed throughout the show or the approaching winter season is likely to make an already die situation in gaza. even worse. what is your
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message today to the world? the 1st 5 on behalf of the palestinian people here, i want to say all the free people of the world for standing up. besides the, the being on the right side, the for city will stand behind behind 3, you kind of spied guns, stuff at a speeding cause in general without good efforts, without the voices, we wouldn't each, we rather we what we want to be able to to name steps past like we are right now, we ask them to continue to donate the time the efforts and the any medical supplies all for the with this, these fire. we could start a new chapter and the life of the people here and does that. and for the americans use it as well. we can continue to treat the hundreds of patients that come across from the hospital a ship all us but the all the last because here as we look forward to a more bright future in the coming days, months or thank you very much,
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we're going to leave it there, thank you all months social mine, my one gilani dr. mads gilbert. thank you for joining us on inside story and thank you to for watching. you can always watch this program again any time by visiting our website at entre 0. don't. com for further discussion go our facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash a j inside story. of course you can during the conversation on x i'll handle is that a j inside story for me for you back to button holt here and don't have thanks for watching. by the way, you're looking at that is one of the breach points through which i must collect just came into his room warning sirens here is some site has been remarkably intensified during the last couple hours.
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we've seen these as strikes really concentrated on residential homes in residential building. is a dangerous, kind of hot spillover, of course, as well. so at the moment in conversation here is a middle inside the hospital then without oxygen, without electricity is being debaters. and the beat is inside the house, they're dying. one after another. one of these 5, it's a bad friend that kills me every single day. exploring type less cultural, examining political disco exposing societies, doctor award winning intense investigations. the get compelling insights into humanity. holden, unto stories from asia,
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