a zation of color stands for many, many, many, many years, has resulted in this kind of situation, right? so, a lot of them are just considered numbers. that body is yes, but they're just numbers, they're not actual humans. and that has compounded the very sort of unjust u. s. foreign policy. when it comes to this, when it comes to this conflict. but the 2nd point is, the fact that the united states does believe that israel is exercising its right to self defense. and there's important context here from a legal perspective. so, you know, the international court of justice had issued an advisory opinion of 2004, for example, about the separation while the israel built in the occupied post to midland. and it said that israel cannot claim it. the claim is right to self defense over territory that it effectively occupies that it has an effective control over. and this also goes for garza, despite the fact that is real claims, that it no longer occupies, goes a since 2005. when it's a disengaged,

it does. and in fact the because it has effects of control default to you. and experts said in the statement which i was referring to, specifically, quote, such egregious violations cannot be justified the name of self defense. absolutely, absolutely. they cannot. i mean, it doesn't make sense. if israel can, you know, turn off the water, inflicts a complete siege and instantly deployed troops into but as the that means that it has effective control over the territory. another international law means that it cannot exercise its right to self defense. it doesn't make sense. however, if israel is attacked then it can use law enforcement, for example, to respond to these attacks, but not launched a, a full scale war against $14000.00 plus 12 over $2000000.00 palestinians, killing $14000.00 plus. so at this point, what happens the day off the, this truce ends, would it be, do we expect an immediate resumption of for the bombing campaign?

palestinians have had a few days to breathe and they go back to the slowly so, well, that's the thing. i mean, it's like you're pressing paws on the mass, systematic, and mass coming of, of palestinians. so i think that for the families, the whose loved ones will come back, the post indian prisoners and the and that is really hostages. this is good news. the truth, but you're absolutely right. i mean, the question is then what happens? and again, as we've seen from the statements made by the, you know, highest level of senior officials and who's really government based. they claimed that the fighting will continue, which is by the continued pressure in the united states and from the united states on because really, government is absolutely crucial. all right, thank you so much. now. how's it coming and sharing your thoughts that brings us to the end of the show, but as always, you can head over tile to 0, don't com. so the very latest upfront, some x, the

so many politicians want to be the republican party is candidate for the any stand, a chance it gets donald trump, if our planet is burning and we're running out of time, why aren't we doing more to deal with climate change our american politics just getting to i've been to a screen for most americans because it can look us politics. the bottom line. this is october 7th, the tax india has stood firmly behind it, even as a civilian death told of them environment and seeds of guys it continues to mount. but india had until recently, been in israel critic and a historical ally of the palestinian people. what's behind the ship? that conversation is coming up with 1st, as the world guys and rages on it is the billiards were paying the highest price. mc international has been documenting human rights violations and unlawful feelings that it says must be investigated as war crimes. but when, and how can accountability habit? joining me to discuss this is this which headliner amnesty international secretary

general on yes. the use column on a thank you so much for joining me on upfront. thank you. these really offensive in guys is entering its 7th week in thousands have been killed. and the enclave is effectively on the brink of collapse. last week actually for hospital was attacked and read it. and then there was a saturday morning bombing, a vision valley, a refugee camp in north guys. it is real. have said that it's focused on rooting out from mass. uh, but the question is, and what costs are they willing to do this? you're the head of amnesty international, your organization, documents, human rights violations, and work crimes around the world that are committed by all sides of a particular conflict. in this case, what violations and what crimes has your organization discovered since october 7, october of 7 attacks by how much culture a number of war crimes and policy for crimes against humanity. a. d,

a response by ease, right? this fall i includes are lead to need of human rights by your initial switch, your soul amount to what crimes. and we'll see what else we have documented the use of salvation as a weapon of all the was a look as a weapon of war. the use of medicine as a weapon of war we have documented inc discriminate disposal from that. and clearly, you know, opinion targeted ethics of civilians and civilians. object we have documented the use of collective punishment, which is also a war crime to. busy the, the violations committed by these riley forces in there were supposed to have masses, or, or crimes,

been sadly and less and in coal, tub diction ways international or your mind is general. so you've laid out a series of documented violations and war crimes. yeah. which is a part of the equation, but the other part of the equation, of course, is accountability for those war crimes and violations of israel's not a member of the international criminal court. palestine is having joined in 2015, and that has to make the situation even more complicated. can these crimes even be prosecuted and how difficult is it to prosecute war crimes in this case, if israel is not party to the i, c. c. as in the 1st 30 minutes to the delivery of justice for the crimes commented by humble and by these written forces is the conditional support by too many countries, even of toys,

ryan all to him. as i read while mentioning that, we are entering a week 7 of the crisis of this conflict. while those 7 weeks we, i've seen a reserved support of the united states farm, the united kingdom to is around that time. res, i'm support means that there is no uh, uh, to know that the, the, those governments, i'll not pushing a focus on the note saying what she's riley is doing say i'm not putting in a focus on that. going to be the judge and on the delivery of justice. and i could say exactly is the same with those countries that the support team come us for or so as some of them i failed to hold thomas to account them to denounce the crimes. so g or strategist, consideration the re or politics all the may payment to the delivery of the

trustees. the 2nd one is the, um yeah, i would say the, i'm sure of the west of the world right now to forget that there is a context to what is happening now. it is a context of repression, oppression, or to push hung up on the side of the t and the list. that context is still coming toward count as 2 and the list is right, a system of up outside a need, sorry. ok. patients all not taken into account, there will be no delivery of justice. you in the high commission or for human rights of boca to has the cried violations of international law and has urged a quote, rigorous investigation. and full accountability, however, was reportedly denied access to israel and the palestinian territories by the israeli government. israel has claimed that there are some ass bonkers and weapon

stores that are situated within civilian infrastructure. sure. a you in humanitarian team, led by the world health organization was able to access as see for hospital over the weekend. however, access to guys is still severely restricted. how difficult is it for independent organizations like yourself to gain access to? we have means we have people on the ground, we um and they do the slot that she's a board to. i lies the tax allies to a set tonight to 80 done send all the forms. so basically guns determine the nature of the tax. tried to identify whether there was a military necessity to it when possible. we always communicate with these radio, sorry kids about all findings. they usually do not pres, phone, but as a matter of principle, we uh, you know, let them know we have missed you today or reports such as documented what we

believe to be targeted uh, showing all the shipping and object, including the, also the church in oregon including a refugee camps. in those 2 cases, we have found no evidence of uh, military objectives uh, nearby and the these radio, sorry, just believed that there was some kind of a terry objectives via by the teams. so that's taken a lot of questions including welding for those that have found the future in, in, in they also docs trips. allow me because i think we need to do. we need to give you money to, to what supplement. allow me to tell you about how much of soaring was in that talk . the dogs church for lost is 3 children, attend, or the kids in the tech. and they told them that the students selection or like sites my help died was my children going back to me, or my children was westfield maggi ellen phone usually twins. so have

14. i have no thinking that i should have died was my children. and what about most she lot of these, i am a father whose daughter i go is being ahead of the station guys. the ideas told us i me some so much every day that passes becomes more difficult. they are in a very vulnerable to situation. and the tax and gets us can mean a lot a lot. so these also re, i need to be home, the feet go behind the soaked in the as told on the course she goes of searching thousands the above $25000.00 people wanted they all 5, those small, those, all those on the sisters and she was running smooth offers. this is the reality of that school as we all made to witness those cold t. we really test violation of intel national. that tool we already made. you know,

we, maureen, in the memory of allow humanity cheat as a moment when the, when tell them back all civilian. she totally specs on palestinian to boise it that the lease to in for us the be a few of us. right. and it failed to do so. we own searching solves on this allow quotients you have pointed out the double standards between the west, the response to russia's attacks when ukraine versus what we're seeing from the west with regard to israel's attacks in gaza. oh, when you think about that double standard, what are the consequences of the double extensive that uh, i mean, 1st of all, what are we talking about here? we're talking about the fact that in the case of russia's aggression against ukraine, the wisdom of wealth led by the united states port on the entire international

communities to convince russia. we actually have time this, the international did the same. you know, we, we have done everything, you know, need toward power to demand that human rights organizations as governments around the world, the rush of that original new credit because that is, you know, that's, that's a concern about what type of now fast forward to uh, goza, and israel, yes. how much committed henders crimes on october 7th, uh, crimes that to mount war crimes, possible crimes against humanity. there is a context to that crime to those crimes bureau that is a context of military occupation. and up on the side, we would have expected the united states and the other countries to actually take

stock of the fact that the finest and people to fight against that of the issue. we would have expected the united states on the west on firewall to say, ok, 8 police reports ukraine against a rush of like a restaurant. surely we can do something for palestinians against the occupation by is right. and the regime of outside who is going to trust the united states give on when they have done overall the last 7 weeks. and before that, you know, so it see a tire piece on security. see the piece, column blink. because of those double standards on youth embassy has been documenting human rights violations by both for mass and israel. during the course of this war, any organization has stated that it found war crimes were committed by both sides. but this statement you anger and criticism from these really governments. what do

you say to this? when i say this has been going on for many years, every time we sight violations by these riley government, these really oh sorry geez, we all being that fewest of anti semitism. the only conclusion that can be extracted from the behavior of these right new authorities is a photo and you cannot criticize these, right? that's it. that's the only uh, application of their position. they cannot toner it. india criticism all is the right. of course, i'll repeat these riley governments be as you, they cannot tolerate any calling to all repos team on the most people are violations by these riley governments as to be on this. one of the only ones i see is that they, i mean, grace company right now. i've seen repulse attacking every, every single un agencies. i've seen reports attacking a wrench of all the human rights organizations. i've seen

a demo. so i've talked to uh and you know, seeing as terrorist, palestinian as is right in the human rights organization that the out fox knows and often that's on you. and your subjective at that point is that at all, shape your strategy or your approach to dealing with this issue to pointing out the document, is this chance you know, how do we need to know it? yeah, it doesn't change packed uh oh, investigation. it demands that we all be more aware of the actual reality of anti semitism in the mountains. a lot of the international that we didn't notice uh to send it to them, you know, its foam and shapes around the world. this is something we have been doing for many years, but to do something we must keep doing and when was prioritized because there is absolutely no way it's on the toner. i board that the actions by these writing

governments should be called used by a to somebody to attack to jewish people around the world. so, you know, is the most of us that we spend the firm and strong against anti semitism and that we do what she does not the month is that we stop and the refrain of criticizing these riley governments and monitoring and reporting on them. most people are your initials of the rights of publishing and people on this call tomorrow. thank you so much for joining me on upfront. i think the within hours of a mazda attack on october 7th, indian prime minister and the ranger. moti tweeted his support for israel and on october 27th indeed, abstained from the you involved on a cease fire resolution that saw strong support from other nations in the global south. although it has call for restraint and urge diplomacy,

the indian government has repeatedly voice its support for israel. but india and israel have not always had such a close ally ship. its 1st generation of leaders were supportive of palestinian rights and opposed designed as an indian vote against the creation of israel at the u. n. and it was the 1st non arab country to recognize the palestinian liberation organization as the legitimate representative of palestinians established formal ties with israel until 1992 and no indian leader had visited israel until moody did . so in 2017, given this history, it might seem odd to some that moody has relied his country's historical position so quickly. close watchers of indian politics however, were less surprised. one of those people, this professor and director of the center for the study of democracy at the university of westminster, natasha cole joins is right now on upfront. it's actually thank you so much for joining me. it's easy to see parallels between a prime minister movie and is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu. both lead right wing nationalist,

religious governments. both have been accused of demonizing muslims for political gain, but isn't that simple? is the fact that moody and nothing yahoo share political views, the reason why india and israel are enjoying such warm ties. now thank you for having meal. and i think that you're absolutely right. and how are the current in getting prime minister movie? he's a supportable israel, and his 2017 trip to is to israel. and you know, what was at the time done? that's a romance between a movie and prime minister. nothing. you know, what is, is an important reason why his supporters and the on an important element in contemporary and in politics they can do to or the political use of hinduism. he's support to see this as the position they should be as bossing. however, this is a departure from conventional indian stance on palestine and on the 2 state solution. and even in the off them off of being the prime minister's remarks. a in

october, the ministry of external affairs issued then try to physicians and statements saying that india has position on the issue on history and by this time has not changed. so, so what we have here is a, is a movie that b, j, b, and movies own brand of politics as being the one, as opposed to indian policy. having changed at some point, even the arab nations, which i have signed onto the abraham accords nations that have attempted, quote, unquote normalize relations with visual. they're still calling for a ceasefire. they're still calling for a much more moderate position from israel. and yet india seems to be far more lots that like the united states, with israel's actions at the moment does, does a moment like this show how contradictory some of those attempts are by the, by the indian government, the extended investment as being without the state months and information concerning the supply of somebody that in 8, etc, behalf. of course,

because of the government is the we do the government, they obviously stopped short of calling for us east by 100 bucks. not even taken a leadership role in any, in any sense in any meaningful sense or calling from oh, i can think of the, the shouldn't or anything like that. it's really about assign issue in the indian context has become extremely simplified for the, for the worst of the in the small project into something that is about religion. and that is about the depression of most things by knowing what skins. this is simply for them about the fact that what seems audit stress is lama phobia as something that appeals to them because of how it has resonated with what we have seen in india, especially over the last 9 now nearly 10 years. but let's, let's put, let's put, let's talk about some of those. uh, any houses that are emerging from the bgp. uh and its allies. uh, i'm thinking specifically about what's been happening online and in the media since october 7th. allies have nobody's willing party to be g p. i have used the october

7th horrific attacks, but to whip up anti muslim sentiment inside of india, according to the guardian affiliated facebook group compared for mass to militants in majority. muslim kashmir and a prominent right wing talk show host told viewers quote, the same radical jihadist is la mic terrorist thinking that is real as a victim of we are a victim of as well. is real, is fighting this war on behalf of all of us. that kind of incitement, does it have a real world impact inside of india, that kind of incitement is tied to the bar to routine in india even prior to october of this year. and that is, that's resonates with the public because that has been and because people, they look as, you know, with the top project, people have been enrolled into an understanding that most students are read. and that this almost will be a, is legitimate response to this thread. so uh and, but,

but there are also other factors that not play a role, of course play the role of fairly well organized and systematic id says, information technology says that often spread a in the misinformation uh at the least. and, and this information on that is really trying to get people to see a very selective understanding of anything that involves conflict, and especially if it involves minorities and listens. so there is a little one of the information technology shows in that media. i go system, that is also, i would argue, uh, kind of a things that we've seen in recent years, which is a gap and critical journalism and a gap in fact checklist. in fact, all these right wing projects portrays media and critical media as the end to me that stops people from understanding some, some privilege, ideal reality it's, it's the, it's the ones. but it's just kind of thinking that that price and writing ecosystems, including an india. so the reason that that people will have you hinders what

appeared in this would often have in no voice by the estimation of you all is the actions is because it ties in with what we have been involved into understanding in line would be in the project but uh, sadly it is also the, as i said, it is not just the fact that this is a, that using the screen and by this time have become something that device, the government from the indian political opposition. it is also something that is c, as in line with people's religious identities. we have seen a lot of crackdowns on protests inside of numerous indian states. and what's interesting is it's not just the states that are under a b, j. b control that's doing the crack down. now there's no official policy that benz protests, but we've still seen demonstrators arrested on multiple occasions. but why are the governments in these various states stifling support for palestinians?

i think that the legacy of the same rights in india is very significant. and uh, and because there are a lot of conflict entrepreneurs that would use any, any such a zeal or perceived injury to any one particular community. in order to we bought much greater biden's. the potential for that i think has to be understood against the background that we're soon heading into the indian general elections. so. so this is, this is, so my understanding would be that this is governments reacting to a bad, very specific instrumentalist interest at state level in the run up to elections, which would, which would die in with, you know, with either what he's about, riots or concerns about votes back. so i'm thinking for example, about kind of an attack out where it probably is governed by the main opposition congress party for those that don't know. police charged 10 active this with

creating a public nuisance. after they organized a silent march in support of palestinians on october 16th and bengal, loaded with the capital of the state. so in an example like that, based on what you're telling me if they had organize the summit march in a defense of israel. for example, we have seen a similar response based on the instrumentalists concerns of the state in the, in the context of good not to go the be just be simply law these elections. and that was after the lot of effort and any known b, j. b party in any states constantly runs the risk of being if, if they allow certain kinds of political expressions runs the risk of being made good, either extremist or supporting extremism or supporting radicalization. so the exclusion sees of domestic ins, indoor parking politics is what is, what defines the, the, the worries that governments have in, at the state level,

even if they are not to be just be the member that any position that is, that is not in line with a very high bar naturalist, one on issues that involve minorities and specifically muslim, such as one crush me, is seen as support all extremism or support of islamic extremist. even worse, things like saturdays, we're leaving in and out in the context where even critical media can be or in intellectuals or university, academics are targeted for views that would otherwise be perfectly acceptable in liberal democracy. so i think that creates a silence and, and send sure around what it is that can be allowed without being politically able to it as an other. it's all the time we have for right now, professor called, i wanna thank you so much for joining me on upfront. thank you everyone. that is our show upfront. we'll be back later this the

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