captives interest and so. busy that's what it's approximately. yeah, mean it is released to say so that inside of this course that they have to do it, they have to do the war and risk the lives of the captive so they can reach this deal. this is just not true. they said that the deal they have now is a much better deal than was on the table 10 days ago. apparently this is also not true because i don't want to sit for my own sources that say for my own reading, i know this is not to be true. they've been stubborn. now for 10 days in the system . a number of things such as the flight over because a such as the number of days. but they made concessions on all of them because they needed to show some results. and because they were american pressures, again, there was american pressure on days range to come up with ideas. but that then, you know, you know, prefers to play the bombastic smug. say, oh, i caused by friend joe. exactly. and i told my friend joe to get involved and to talk to them. yeah, i just the, the leader of the free world works for a prime minister. and he also said, i go my friend joe, and i said, look, jo,

this will, will continue. but as i say, this is again, right, because nothing, you know, has been assistance from the very beginning. i mean, boxed in the length of the free world behind him. been a drum aside, the war definitely see, it says, all know this genocide the war and pay attention to the words again. you know, i mean spin, so ethical. yeah. model values. no, but no objectives. yeah, we are talking about the genocide, the war that led to the desk of more than towards thousands of videos more than $5000.00 children to the destruction of have more than half. what was that was nice show buildings and gaza. yeah. a lot on hospitals, a war or stores award on children. again, ethical neural values. nobody objected. i was talking about a baby. i don't, i'm not sure what, which may be, but then what a baby i find out to help by. or how much imagine that would that see after all

the images of all the babies that we've seen over the past weeks. yeah. especially with the last few days in a shift then the engineers on hospitals and of course hospital of the house and the hospital. the babies we have kind of thing is. yeah, that's ethical model. nobody objects wrong. thank you. as always, that as, as senior political analyst model on the shadow. and that's it from me, elizabeth serrano for this bulletin, but do stay with us. we a back in just on the 13 minutes without on going coverage of the war on gaza up next is the strange. thank you for watching the

challenges here with what is ours, if not the expression of one's most intimate dreams and desires, a testament to the beauty and magical around all the time. arts can be a means of survival, a tool resistance on these voices. and this is the street suite garment garden, the be done. the throughout history arts has served as a form of resistance and palestinian artists,

particularly in tune without concepts having used poetry, cartoons and music, to get their perspective beyond the walls, erected around them with israel's war on gauze a menu or applying their talents to demand injustice. freedom and an immediate end to the blood shed. among them are leila and joey, a graffiti artist, currently based in your bid jordan, i'm a painter. janine you're seeing who's joining us from dearborn michigan. it's so nice to have you both on the show today. thank you for joining us, leila. i would like to start with use that's up to you majored in bio medical physics. but your super power i would say is actually talking through walls. your murals are pretty exceptional. can i get you to introduce your work to our viewers in, in just a few words? they consider the, the image is with a 1000 words. and this is the main slogan that i am,

i think is what you're present r o. i'm the janine, you also work with very strong image re i'd like to have you do the same as you can introduce our work to our viewers with just a few words. i know your background is actually accounting and finance but, but that is not exactly reflected on on your paintings. yeah. so, um i can, i make sure that a lot of my are is based on storytelling and i use a lot of colors and symbols to ok trail that to its um, absolutely beautiful. um, i'd like to get me again to to tell me a little bit more because you were born in a refugee camp in jordan. so would you say that that shaped who you are as an artist as well? yes, so much like very strongly. i keep thinking about that plus, you know,

most of the time it's like above in this world where you have a completely different universe, a completely different universe that is reflected on your murals. would you say on, on your arts today? am i correct or many, and then would it be in your flex? yes, into my act as for example, being so responsible. it's this response. so we do that. i'm closing on my shoulder is what i checked. and today what i brought it from the counts actually from living there. you feel responsible. why? what people responsible for 1st, like having get sat in today's means less, you have something so much different than there is the people you are holding responsible responsibility toward that. second is being the oldest daughter and in memory like a small house where my 1st my parents was working to afford us living we. we

lived in a very heart condition. so that's like made me hold more responsibilities done was actually my, i should have this response. ringback has a grown up shape my textbook, chips my this cindy baby in dance, daneen. how much of your arts would you say is defined by palestine or by being college stand? um i would say i would say like maybe 80 percent. i think there's a smelly thing being cost. i mean there's a huge part of my identity, but i, you know, i'm also a community member or wherever i am. and i try to portray that as much as possible as well. i would like to ask you both to stay with us for a little while as we turned to other forms of expression for a bit, because both ours and resistance come in different shapes and forms. take

a look at this very powerful piece of artwork by documentary filmmaker and skate border. my and i'm not 6 flips over occupation. the issue with me heading into the head skate be able to play in relation to get the kid. i shouldn't not be suddenly asleep. i just need to escape boarding is a positive to overcome the elements of the israeli military occupation. okay. to kick flipping over occupation and the author of this

for documentary filmmaker and skateboarder my and how that joins us now. my and thank you very much for being part of this conversation. there was so much about skateboarding that is just fun, but obviously as we see in your work there. so it's quite clear that it's also a very powerful tool in terms of personal development in terms of social cohesion, you describe it as a tool to create, resist and money, fast power. can you talk to us about that? yeah, thank you for having me. the supporting is, uh, i think most people think the skateboarding this is a sort of sport or something that people do when they're quite young, but it actually very much has a culture embedded in it and a practice that is part and parcel to the streets that we occupied and i think part of that definition is to understand this reset, we skipped for it in and to resist the powers and structures that those

stories also project. and part of that is to empower a small community of people who are artists basically. and what i like to call interpretive dancers of the street. and by definition that is one that resists the powers that be it's also about inhabiting the streets as well. right? is being, they're becoming more visible. i suppose you're palestinian american, you were raised in the united states from the age of 2. you went back to the west banking in 2014. if i'm not mistaken. and please do correct me if i'm wrong. but what do you remember from those very 1st days of being back when palestine was no longer an idea in your head, but was actually streets and, and people yeah. so i went for

a sense of the what was this supposed to be in arabic class at the state university . and in that same village, i ended up stumbling upon skateboarders. and for me, it was really shape shifting in that this, like i said, this culture of this, this community that i sort of grew up with in the us to have found it on happen chance basically in a, in a small village in university town in the west bank, i opened up my eyes to something much bigger. i think it connected me to palestine sort of immediately in a way that the story is food of folktales from my parents and, and literature from, from books was sort of unable to. and do you documented that trip put in a project called landing? was that also an attempt to, i don't know, show the world that being palestinian means

a whole bunch of things. i started by doing the video, documented called kits of so documentation and part of that project has not transitioned into a long term for the documentary project, which i want to be enough. i, i, i know how to use the camera because of skateboarding, part of part of state culture is to photographs and to document tricks and the different spaces that people are skateboarding in. and i had started sort of just with that intention and over the years has built up sort of enough of an archive to want to share to the world. and part of it is to do just that, to show that skateboarding impala sign is part and parcel to our unwavering relationship to our land. and a very important part of youth resistance, even if it's just within a small number of policy needed skateboarders that in and of itself is a testament to our pulse of freedom. a small number of policy is for now,

because according to the voices in your document, are they all one more people to join them? i want to bring layla engineering back into the conversation and ask the 3 of you now. um, how difficult have the last few weeks been for you with the war on guys? uh, i mean, do you have family in cause i do have friends there. how personal has this for been, janine if i can start with you? yeah, so i am from the list um, most of my family lives in nablus. i don't think i need to have relatives in jose to be directly impacted by what's going on. i think as palestinians, we are all connected despite you know, what are colonizers put borders? on and so i consider, you know, policy knows that to be, you know, my family and it's been extremely difficult on emotionally physically it can to

help with that time means. but i'm also very inspired by the people who lives in the resilience. and honestly, they have them keeping me going name uh how, how about you, how has it been for you? oh it's, it's been really shocking and so hard. but it was expected like as, as getting bones almost stating that this is not to new, but it is like, got more condense this time. i do have friends there and ask them that's what the situation is. something like we are very familiar to, to it because we have related to, we're living there before. so it's just very hard even to, to active, to become an active artist after watching all those, these horrible and perfect images that's coming from there. at the same time, it is a duty for me, for example, for being

a police student myself to hold this to the world to try to deliver it to, to be a voice for those who are voiceless for our case. so it's, it's be like a pretty hard share, i need to go through it. so this moment actually, because we still didn't have been that you still haven't been able to contact the people to my and how about you have you have you been watching everything very closely and, and, and also feeling quite powerless, i guess. yeah. so i was in the occupying westbank for most of october, and i, i think even from home and no way you're still watching as if from a far. and it's unfortunate because it's not only heartbreaking and of the scenes of ongoing genocide in your face be debilitating. and at the same time, like you said, it inevitably becomes personal because at the end of the day,

palestinians are all connected. i think is really fragmentation tries to separate us, but we're all connected to palestine as it is. and as it was, and for example, i as a documented photographer, have loads of friends and dogs of that. i don't actually know in person, but i've been connected for multiple years and considered them close. and then many of my real friends, one of which was nice and us who was fairly killed by his earlier strikes in october. not documenting or not the sort of as a journalist, even though he is one but in his house trying to help somebody else. and i think this is a testament that no matter how far away you are from dodge of the, the impact of this is a destructive, ongoing, an organization of our people is something that will be felt no matter where we are

. oh, janine elaina mentioned there the, the difficulty and how that has affected her for work. do you feel the same? do you feel as though it has paralyzed your creativity somehow or, or, i don't know, maybe the other way around. you feel more inspire to document this moment. i do feel a lot more inspired, i think because i have a duty here in the diaspora. so we got for folks, i've also been a really busy trying to organize around making sure that a ceasefire does happen. and kind of center the demands of those in the headset or because of the, you know, the, i am still like privilege and the sense that i'm not being bombarded. mm hm. i, i am very touched that you, you are all talking about this, this idea of being the voice for others, right? because there are voices in colorado right now being silenced, as you mentioned, like for example, that of poets and novelist. he bought a bu nazzo, whose last post on x actually read gauze as night is dark apart from

the glue of rock, it's quiet. apart from the sound of almost terrifying apart from the comfort of prayer, black apart from the light of the monstrous good night, garza or that was he but so good. a painter who defined her work as a message to the outside world. both these women were killed alongside their children and is really bombardments. i mean, later, you mentioned this that the difficulty but also the responsibility of carrying on of pushing your work and being the voice for these people. it's something we must do, like sure you get into up our lives in a situation where it's very, very shocked to for to this happening. you're expecting it, but it is expensive. that's the tv that's, that's shuttering for the time. but then these images becomes something in our hired some minds and then become an artwork square to be

a share to the world until think ended, you might use this for you, perfect period. this time janine i, i know that your work or part of an exhibit of yours was removed from the royal ontario museum. can you tell us about why that was and, and what was your reaction? yeah, so um i was, i had uh, i was commissioned by the field museum in chicago to uh make it make a piece of art about the practice of muslim green burials. and in the art i thought it was really important. also convey how policies don't even have that privilege often to practice assignment green burials. so you know, um and it's not we clean our between the dead bodies, the rack them. we make fire for them and palestine. often our martyrs bodies are

held hostages by design. this entity and they are not given, you know, to their families, to bury in practice. our secret traditions, assorted, convey that in a small part of the painting and also think about those. and now how there are so many folks being bombarded and there's no time to practice. those traditions is also, you know, kind of what i was trying to convey not painting. and this exhibit is a traveling exhibit and it went to anterior and toronto and canada, me and the other contributors went to canada to sierra displays. and before we had went, we were just completely stunned. by the way, the rom, the real interior museum, was responding to us. they had attempted to censor our art and they wanted our consent to move where it's like palestine and desirable um, even implying that the messiah is like an issue. they want to,

to edit that. they also want to censor my teaching and see we learn or the section that can said of the 1st time was that the 1st time they came across such a, such an attempt to sense through your work. not really, but it was the 1st time that and it was like, usually i get my art rejected or i'm told that it's too political and that's pretty much it because this is a traveling exhibit and they have already seen the material and accepted it is felt more violent the way that they were trying to, you know how they accepted it and not they're trying to censor it. so we want to the museum and we were expecting to see our stuff in display. but the, the stuff took us to the side and showed us some of the edits that they were trying to make. they completely crossed off my art, which was very, you know, this, i don't consent to say the least, the suspects violating they refused to meet with us. and the kind of like

threatened us, you're either going to accept these changes by like in 45 minutes or we're going to pull your displays. they also said that it's never going to pull our displays and we have to pull the jewish display like in principle. and obviously we're not going to accept those terms. some of the contributors, heather riley, outside the museum. and me and my colleague send me to her son, did a sit in overnight at the museum until they agreed to display my art as is and then and they and they brought your work backs a. it's again, well done for, for, for fighting the good fight to i wanna talk to you guys about the future as we're approaching the end of the show. um, now how do you see the future of your work and how inter linked to your think that future is with the future of your people? because i have been raised in the account. so i the police don't i. ringback to the

as a to for, for it it has the also bar inside the account. if i didn't like reinforce, decided to do for the new generations. i would say that i have found that this is what i'm doing in my artworks basically is the highlights mattress. they say to highlight their existence because we support this. i'm really the new generations to keep them believing of these jobs because they are being disconnected. a little bit, we are the last generation who was in contact for or restaurants, who actually this so it's the new generation are in danger of forgetting their on forgetting their origins, lying. and what about you? we talked about skateboarding being fun. how, how important is joy right now and in the years and decades to come as a form of resistance and resilience?

it's incredibly important. i don't want to be not even though and i'll be frank. i haven't touched my skateboard since october 6. that's telling i think um skateboarding is a tool and one that can cos joy and disrupts a headspace of violence. but i think get a moment like now if violence is everything around you when in your imagination, sometimes it's hard to get around. that isn't to say that this holds forever and when and, and when say, pointing does become sort of top of mind again for me in other palestinian skaters, i know the immense power that it holds. um, as we we bill it taishan and then also as this medium to freedom i think our engagement with the land and space physically writing our skateboards in a place like palestine hold this on wavering relationship that i think is

often times beyond words and gets translated in our creative spaces, it gets correct. translated in our communities, it gets translated in how and wherever we show up for one another. and this beautiful part of skateboarding is something that published and skaters also manifest together, which i know is, and during all i, i want to give you the 3 of you, a chance for a final thoughts here and, and maybe if it's not asking too much, i'd like you to send a message if you have a message. i don't know if it's to the world to your friends and family in calls or in palestine. any message that you might have right now in just a few words. * mine, i would like to start with you. i want to think everybody around the world who is showing up for palestine. i think as much as we are surrounded by the politics

of death and violence. i've never in my life seen so much international, an intersection of some ability with our cause and one that i hope we can also reflect back when it's needed because i believe that our freedom is tied to so many others. and i hope that one day we will all be free. oh janine, in joseph, your words, your message as much as i am increasing in mourning for all those the home in the lice and those that have been taken away from us. and i also am sleep proud of my people's resilience during these times. and you know, design is n t things that were just numbers, but i, i value each each life and i think about the people it was a 3 day. and i hope that we can continue standing up for the folks in less than centering their demands. and doing so, lena, your thoughts?

i just need to give you a few weren't in college more because i felt them feel a bit cold or simply because we have less contact for example, to the north. and so people are getting back to their normal lives like nothing has happened. but no, i need to be able to keep on this thing and they're on form of resistance to keep their voices off. our voice as those really matters because it's getting concerned on being shut everywhere by the social media. we are talking about their propaganda now. so we need to keep our existing id. i'm very thankful for your voice is here today. thank you very much. and i would also like to take a moment to think a number of ours has to be contacted and who wants it to be part of this episode from occupied east jerusalem. and the occupied westbank who felt like they could not be part of this conversation. and speak about their arts for fears of being reprimanded or worse. finally, i also want to thank you for watching. if you have

a comment about our show, you can talk to us on social media. and if you have a, a conversation or a topic that you like to see on the show, we're always open to your suggestions. you can use the hash tag or the handle avery stream, and we'll look into it. take care. and i'll see you soon. i a medium size does i collapse all this massive is really a time for firing going off warning citizens that are heading this way. for me, even hospitals, i'm not yet protected from the is what i'm going on with several 100 people and the numbers are growing all the time. so the victims of the attack a lot to the hospital and god 5 is requesting congress, provide a 100000000000 and security funding for 6 meetings. still no resolution still no unified with the game on going so

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