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flow and welcome to the program. i'm 40 back people, a brief break in israel as well on guys i owe more than just a slicker of hope for peace palestinians. and he's really is, will be asking those questions. but so to what political leaders around the world, the dia, forged by cutoff, egypt, and the us pauses for 4 days the onslaught that i skills more than $14000.00 palestinians, injured many more, and destroyed entire communities and vital infrastructure, but wider geo political shrunk ways of being felt with fee is israel, relentless bombardment could trigger a wider regional conflict. so could this be the deal to bring an end to the cottage, or will israel continue with his relentless bombing and destruction? will be asking our guest about this and more shortly. but 1st, let's look in a bit more detail at what's being agreed. the temporary si, fi was mediated by khattab, the united states in egypt, and comes off to more than 6 weeks of war in gaza. israel and how must have agreed to a for days the session of hostilities. mice will release 50 women and children held

captive in gaza. in return. israel will free at least a $150.00 policy, and women and children detained in its presence. israel has also said is willing to pause hostilities for a further date for every 10 additional. capt is her mouse releases. under the deal is, are all pages to allow palestinians to travel free along. so i dean road. but it will not allow those in southern guys to return to that homes in the north, more trucks carrying humanitarian aid, including fuel will be allowed into gaza during the full day pause. but prime minister benjamin that's down with says this does not mean the war on guys is over and that it will continue until israel achieves all of it. schools. we're bringing our panel in just a moment, but 1st let's speak to nita abraham, who's in ramallah in the occupied, westbound. so need to what do palestinians think of the tools? are they hopeful that it could lead to a lasting sci fi? i sense that tool been approved the site was just covering here in downtown ro,

my low where we've been seeing posting is holding palestinian flags. they've been seeing large enough numbers of participants and they were talking about who they are. say that is real only understands the language of deals, otherwise those prisoners are never going to make it outside of his way the prisons . so even i met one of the mothers of the she has 2 sons in his way to jail, to a saying that even though her sons are not in the list that has been published. but she's hopeful that this is the beginning of a deals that could see more and more palestinian prisoners being out of his way to jails. i've also spoken to a brother of a present or a. she says that he wants to be happy. he wants to be optimistic of what he's doing so cautiously because his brother has multiple lives sentences on him. so he doesn't expect him to be a part of the due, but still he is hopeful. now there's also the feeling of pain that posting is or feeling. they say that this is a short break, that they believe that this to continue its aggression on the palestinians of the

besieged cause this trip. they believe that they think the aggression will continue, though they're hoping that the seas fire is going to be lasting for a bit longer. we've been here and also from palestinian officials. they would have welcoming the deals saying that the appreciate the rules that have been played by i thought an egypt and brokering this deal. but they said that the not needs to be a suspicion of hostilities against palestinians. they see that also old basic needs need to be entering garza without any conditions. so there is a mood of hope that are processing and comedies. what we think cautiously expecting and hoping that their sons are going to be, and daughters included in the deal and they're going to be released on that thursday. need abraham in ramallah. thank you for joining us. that's now bringing august. joining us from hi fi in israel is the on a boat to

a policy and lawyer and former legal advisor to the palestine liberation organization. she was involved in previous negotiations with these really government in geneva. so time by a con professor of public policy at home. i've been highly for university in doha, who has been following the negotiations very closely. and from a studio in london, you'll see mecca berg and associate fellow at chatham house with specializes in the is really policy needed conflicts. thank you for joining us on inside story deanna . let me start with you a full day humanitarian pause. it's a truce not a ceasefire. is this a positive step, a load? any, any, a block of is rarely bombs. the stopping of this rarely bombs is a good thing. that's not the problem. the problem is the bigger picture, which is that is really these really army is going to remain in the gaza strip. they've already indicated that people won't be able to get back to the north, which means effectively the cleansing and it. a didn't mean that we've addressed the root causes, so it's always good for is really bombs to,

to stop being dropped on the heads of palestinians and take care of housing children. but i think we need to look deeper and broader than that and start looking at what it is that israel was intending to do, which is to simply ethnically cleanse the gaza strip. and that is the part that needs to stop. all right, let me get your thoughts. you'll see how do you view this temporary tools and what could it lead to there for 5 years. so the end of it, it's stopping, stopping day there, there was $32.00, stopping there at the bottom, and it's, it's a positive thing. say releasing the hostages. the present. this interface is, are a step forward. and we assume that by establishing establishing communication maybe a to the agreement it's, it's one step forward and kids that are essentially a complete the nfl mon, in the system. and then, or obviously looking into the future a or false to gather sleep because it only days only for the student conflict. and that yeah, we need to look at the big picture. but i think it's almost ineffective,

but that's by the end of the full days of, of, of ceasefire. all holes of the money to impose those students is really busy on. so i think all of the the know it's important to those who may be a good that might be a to disagreement to know cause. so some more you might need to impose a smaller change of or successful place enough. and as quickly as possible to establish a multimillion ceasefire and even this deal you'll see uh, do you think it's a done deal or they complications that could rise in the next day or 2? the suggestion is valley sledge. i saw the could be own was last minutes, which is all events that can, can do that in an agreement. but this fall is, as i understand when both sides, again that may be a to say, i agree that this is going to happen at 10 times it 10 to 10 the in the morning tomorrow i assume since we is done, deal is as possible. but again,

the situation on the ground itself, i drive the things can, can last minute change. but let's hope this is not the case. don't a fine job situation and you'll see both you and deanna say this is a step forward, but not enough. and we need to look at the root cause is, of course, so time, let me come to you and ask you your thoughts about this choice that was agreed, a huge diplomatic effort, as of course, going to achieving this d. o. this been in talks mediated by the categories, will say the central role in this 4 weeks now. but as you'll see said, it seems extremely fragile. can this deal be extended beyond the 4 or 5 days that they've agreed to? could this pause possibly lead to a lasting ceasefire? so let me just start by saying that this is a portion to break. so i think it is important then that to, to provide the understandings with the bag they need to dress by the following. the almost not 8 weeks of continuous and discriminant from bottom end of the gaza strip

. it is important also because it has, it's can potentially be changed in order to put the discussion around the relationship or the conflict between is right now at this time. or how i'm asked to be able to get prisoners in as a jail, that traded against some of the hostages, i think, is quite significant. it has nothing to do with this huge science, nothing, nothing to do with this particular complex industry that this is a long term issue. and that has been a longstanding practice by his raves, of practically taking questing and hostages. those women and children that are going to be released by his are the majority of one of them, have not been tried and there's no real reason for them to be captured. but these are usually where the less they spend considerable amount of time in his ratio. and this is a point of how much has been making from the very beginning. in addition to the fact that for them they have been tried days, but is there is over a number of

a number of times over the last 20 years or so. they understand that as well as the act only to this logics of exchange of hostage. and this is one of the reasons why i'm on a site thing quaint into, is that on the 7th of october now, is it likely to continue? i think that is and it to the whole that it can be built upon and it can be extended by k because as our colleague just said, it has established direct contact at barclay because the united states has really drawn a line i think. and they've given his ro, quite to lots of time compared to previous attacks and was in gaza to try and prove their point that headquarter of how much he's under the shift hospital and that within a limited amount of damage, they can approach the, the resistance. now, $12000.00 people can, at each states are and they could do not neither. they have bank being able to

provide any concrete evidence and they have not to finish too much. and this is, this seems to be now the safe for the best or the safest way forward for, for both sides. how were they able to get across the line after weeks and weeks of negotiations? what changed think, which is what has happened is that to the changing fact, it really has been the americans, patients with these rainy's is running out. they haven't given them more than enough time to complete their mission. and it's clearly the mission as declared the objective as dictated by the it's a now on the 7th of october, is i'm actually below it cannot simply finish from us as a resistance moment and cannot release the the hostages. addition to that, the fact that almost 60 of the of these are the hostages, have been kim, bye is really budman, has events that's time is of itself. in essence here. the longer this on bobbin to

goes on. the more difficult the basis for the policy is to protect the hostages and they are living um amongst themselves. in fact, they're all over the guys a strip as i understand it. and one of the conditions of the series fire, we start out of the policy is to connect with each other in order to identify and locate the hostages and mobilize them without area. so guidance from the is right is this is a point that may have not been noticed by observance. people observing this, right? the again, the, the, she's fired into is also a stop or oppose with daddy. i'm with air outpatient, i guess, right. okay, deanna libya, so you because so ton said that this could be built upon. and do you see here an opportunity to add to this existing agreement without having to renegotiate something you, you've talked about other issues that need to be the broader issues that need to be addressed. so how can they build up on what they've agreed here to address these

broader issues? i resign my system on which is to say that a respite is obviously much needed because the nearly 8 weeks devastation of the gaza strip has got to come to an end. and at the same time, i think that the world is recognizing that, that there is no military solution. as much as israel has tried to project itself as having a military goal. it doesn't have a military goal, it's more it's school has been and it stated it very clearly, which is to ethnically cleanse the god sister, and to carry out a mass killing of 1000 ends and gaza. so to, to build upon it is possible, but it requires that the world step back and not keep continue to give israel a current launch of what is the ability to move on ahead and to continue to bomb gaza. these relays made a number of the claims, threw out this attack on the gaza strip, including some of the ones that had that some time has already mentioned. but most

importantly, throughout all of these claims that they made, they've never been able to substantiate any of them. and i think now it's imperative for the world to read stuff back, recognize that his role spent all of these weeks lying and perpetrating these mass crimes. and now is the time for them to step in and to make sure that that actually civilians posting is a particular are protected. how can they do this? they can do this by doing simple things like making sure that the israel doesn't get allowed to use us weaponry. they can do this by starting to demand the palestinian liberation. com. they can do this by putting sections on israel for everything that has been doing in the west bank as well as his interest to the attack on the gaza strip. they can do this in a wide number of ways, but it requires the world to step back and actually say time is now we can't continue to watch another genocide take place so. so that needs to be massive

pressure and is around is what you, you seem to say down and i'll ask you about this pressure and the west role here in just a moment. but i want to come to, you'll see for us to try and understand what's happening within is around right now, as deanna mentioned and said that she says there's no military solution, but he's really prime minister benjamin. that's now has clearly said that he has no intention of stopping this war, that the bombing and the fighting will resuming for 5 days. as soon as this truce ends at the same time, they are promises that are being given to the families of the captives and israel, that israel will seek to release more of them. isn't there a bit of a contradiction there and what kind of pressure do you think this creates on israel when they want to restart the attacks on 4 or 5 days? yeah, and i think there is a contradiction initially. pay attention to the exec, see when that then, you know, set the objectives to begin with was the starting come, us came, fails before, under pressure, the release of hostages. and obviously there is a contradiction between the 2. know the name, so this se,

style of the pose in, in, in the, in those stand it test is under pressure. and i don't think it's only us for shelly to actually model domestic pressure by the families of those suggests. and those will support them. and many of them between days or the society, they put pressure on it and you know, to put that the release of, of the us to just say, assess, i'm not so sure that these are like say it is a clean nickel here. and adults are, you know, policy or with porch to, to woods guys, even if it looks like this. and maybe sometimes it's a, it's, it sounds like this from, from that i feel like that, that it's coming from it. then you know, in the end use our lives because of the nature of our and so, and stuff. and obviously there was a completely different approach on the 6th of october towards guys i assuming that it was state of school in this situation of, of putting alpha imposing, give them okay. and can, can last for with, as long as call us, we'd like to, to govern the place. so they'll making it as, as,

as they go. and i think they live in of clinic, which is and acceptable. and i think most of us agree that it's, it's unacceptable, it's has multitude was the way to conduct the war a on and against, against homeless. yes. and how does that be your name spelled as a way to do so? sorry to interrupt you if i just. yeah. yeah, go ahead, finish your thought and i'll ask you after. yeah it's, it's, it's, of course, the stalling come on. i see it's a kind of finance stuck. it's a, it's a, it's, it's, it's all cut, but it's not something which is which, achievable in the sense that it sounds that from us with just disappeared are the, is as it relates to the false and different things opponent to come to like the oil chicken by so it's a southern point you need to move into the political arena. right. and so then how is the conduct of the war being viewed in israel? there was consensus in the beginning and until very recently an agreement of mitch yeah was policy and you know what they're doing, but you say that is going domestic pressure to release the hostages. what is the

opinion public opinion like in israel today about the 4 and the way it's conducted? but it's interesting because at the same time, both existing public opinion, one that would like to see the release of voltages which, which is natural. but at the same time, in some sort of a majority of phases, things that the idea is hasn't choose enough for me to tell people. and when menu for. i think the use of this for pushing it to use all for me to tell me about the end. good. and we need to understand and good will type in the, off the, on the, on the 7th of october. and that was city by how much it's showing green by 9 days, or the societies between the angles and feel and want to be french. and this was dec starting to, to subside for the and i think this is one thing to mention that involvement is important. that to put this to a stop, because they need to move as quickly as possible into dealing with fits politically and ultimately gets out of it. all right, so it's on, let's talk about the international involvement that you'll see mentioned that the us to by the administration has a lot writing on this truce to see,

are they any sign? and so you think that he, the bottom administration will pushes well to not resume the war. as mentioned y'all wants to waiting for 5 days. is that is that pressure going to come from the us? he think i hope so. i think the only country does come face sufficient pressure or effective pressure. and israel now is the united states. and as i said before, the united states has given his ro, both time to complete his mission. based on that because you have the objective that did not work. in addition to that, of course, recently intelligence reports from israel have surface that claims that many of those killed on those very decide on the 7th of october, work him also by his variety forces. and they were not necessarily killed by him as, as the story was 1st, it'll be so add that to the unacceptable numbers of civilians being murdered in gaza. and the patients know for to national community in general. and i think

particular within the us is running out, supported by lots of a growing opposition from jewish americans who are increasing the mechanic not in our name. and they was they would like to see and then to this . so the utmost for i think is, is meeting towards the escalation of some sort. the difficulty is whether the 2 sides can commit to what's in the agreement today or where they're coming few days and, and this is still to be seen. but i personally suspect that there will be interpretation to define text in the agreements as well. most likely will not cease fire across the hold up for a guy is a strip. they draw a pro, it's really maybe stopped from the, from certain zones that indicators as a safety safety reasons. as i was very likely increases attacks in the west bank and try and round up more or more prisoners from my mouse and any any i need to

sympathizes with. how may i ask whom the west bank, and the meanwhile, they financial community is likely to rush into uh, guys with the humidity and assistance. and what wouldn't really make a difference is whether the international community sends and international stuff. it's very important not to rely on the on palestinian national stuff to the neighbor, the systems international style for 5 c, r c various and jose and you and agencies should be back with the aid in guys of both for accountability to ensure and to assure to is around that is not the reaching. how about us but more important that i think to provide a layer of protection to the palestinian civilians in guys deanna sometimes said that patients in the us is running out, but it isn't necessarily running out of from the point of view of the binding, the administration do you think they will exit more pressure on israel to use this

choose uh, in order to further deescalate and perhaps lead to a lasting a ceasefire. do you think this appetite for that right now? in the bottom administration? i would like to hope so, but i don't think that that's the case. i say this because the by the administration gave is really the green light from the, from the, from the very beginning. not just game of the green light. but even as we seen this the, the desktop as we see 14000. busy palestinians killed almost half of them children, that the buying it ministration has barely been able to utter a word of condemnation or to tell, call for the word ceasefire. in fact has been the opposite. but i do hope that these pauses will then become much more regularized where it becomes a situation where because there is a pause. people get used to the past, and this pressure is allowed to, to be exerted on israel. but i fear that in this 1st cause, depending on what's gonna happen in the north,

is simply going to be followed by more and more sinus. and the reason i say this is that, and it's now knows that his political future is over, is over the minutes that those captors come home. because of the fact that people inside israel have blamed him for what happened on october the 7th. whether it's riley or last week, so it is totally in his interest to continue. and i don't see that the united states is going to get into a route with, with, with israel at this point in time. you'll see your thoughts about what diana just said that do you think this falls in fighting changes of political dynamic fullness? now i think that the framework of these early political system changed on october 7 completely. and the time you always political color is on both time from it's in the timing sticking. and that's thing when it comes to sign enough, there is the danger that which i agree with you. it's diana that say, here's almost a name for the simple on getting the, the war to,

to save his own skin. but this is, this is the, at the end of the day for him to show them. i think actually that, that the international play show is melting. i see check receipt changes in the way . also whether it's supposed have been a by then also to extend the linking and not those exploit at the search and show consent. now they need to translate this concept into the, into the show to right or says file. but we also need to remember just one thing is that 65 is something we need it and we need to know. but at the same time to ensure that's what, how much they've been 7, the for october will never happen again till and then move on to what something different and show the thing. so in college, students can live in peace together, right? what leverage to the americans have today you'll see on, on the national government, what would it take for the ease really super long this chose into a more lasting ceasefire. the democrats, they hold their lives, others do that. they do wish if they want to cause policies for right now so that

they also understand what's happened on the ground in town. and they'll objectives of the will. so the southern point, they need to also inform the white house that this just for long to the war, but we fall is getting any closer to the declared the objective of this drawing from us while killing and many civilian st in the process. but the united states and its relation with for, with face. so i, if it's once to start with the will, it can still do your thoughts about what to use. you just said this whole time in the us. if it once is, we have to stop this, we'll, we'll stop it and, and where do you think we had next 4 or 5 days of truth? and then what, how, how can it be prolonged without showing that the truth will hold and the hostages wouldn't be really safely. i think that the needs of those children and women will increase the appetite within his room to release the remaining office to choose not to end the transactional sophistic where he, that's nothing. yeah. because it's,

you know, it's 10 per day and all that stuff. i don't think that is likely to happen, but what it will do it for focus people's mind on the, the important aspect of, for based on that, just the sanctity of all human life to be in front of stadiums or his writings. and hopefully this will, this message will make it to the american administration. or do i agree with the, the, to, to be honest, there is, i would not have got to come to this these 5 or nothing. yeah. who would not have come to this pause if it wasn't for the pressure? by that said, based on them by the united states, the united states must see him now. he credibly isolated and embarrassed by the position is sticky. it'd be the conflict and garza and what's gonna happen next. yeah. briefly just to cancel. so go ahead briefly and i, i suspect that if this is successful, this other thing,

what people will try and build on it the mass to must, to take such an action, to insure uh to the world that it will not be confronting is, or the way it did in the past, but i don't think he is very objective off for approaching. how much to to me is that chief level. and in fact, if you look at the numbers and the history, the numbers of those code, if we were assume for every person, innocent person killed, one person is recognized and we are likely to be facing how much more radical movement that will come to exist in the aftermath of how much, how much. okay. how much for that. yeah. all right. i did a quick one for you. this is of the final one today you have the last word deanna. as we use so heard from, you'll see there's no key a policy which seems from these really is no clear approach to guys are what happens next. and after these 4 or 5 days, what, what is the plan for israel and an international community?

what should it be to the policy should be we should be allowed to rebuild. israel should be held accountable for what it's done and for the future, if it's up to the house, it needs to decide our future. the time is over for israel to be determining palestinians future. this is the essence of self determination. and now is the time that we need to build upon this. we paid a very heavy price, is now time for the world to give us our freedom. thank you very much. thank you. deana. bu you'll see mecca berg so time bach. i thank you for joining us on this edition of inside story and thank you to for watching. you can always watch this program again any time by visiting our website at all, which is 0 dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page, us facebook dot com, forward slash page a inside story, a force you can during the conversation on x i'll handle is at a j inside story from me for the back table and the whole team here in doha. thanks for watching. bye for now the,

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faith 5 deal tonight. israel says the release of tests is from gone. so what the game? so at least friday, the do without just err on carrie jones to know. so coming out 50 is riley's, are due to be free by how much of the cost of a full day cease.