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in nevada and the cash shot. so it's almost like is that a 70 medical scholarship? so kind of sending students from garza doctors, so we need to move another that's bring you some of the days of the news now that has been vine and unrest in dublin off to 3 children were injured in a knife attack outside a school. hundreds of people have taken to the streets off to the attack or justice set fire to a police call. some of them have been chanting, anti immigrant slogans. the police chief says the purchase were fueled by a fall, right? audiology had been political shock waves in the netherlands to the policy of fault, right. need to get billed as one of the most seats and parliament adults went to the polls on wednesday, the country's largest muslim organization now says it fees the netherlands may become on safe for the countries 5 percent listed in population stuff. austin has moved from amsterdam or using the metal is back to the dots. that's the message of
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file right? lead us here to build the day off and you think you had more than 2000000 folks in the general election. it's been seen as a political earthquake, many in this marketing to them say they are worried about the will to strong and to immigration. stands to be film mir on the i'm shocked. i really didn't expect so many people would like to him. will. this was convicted for inciting discrimination 3 years ago, off the off the crowd if they wanted few americans during a political speech in the election campaign, he took a soft stance. he has failed us as he wants to be prime minister of old people in the netherlands, but after 25, he is competing against muslims, migrants and assign them, seek us some say his new toes doesn't sound convincing. may to, to fix. i don't believe him, of course not. he said he wants less people from a real cause. he wants to know more refugee migration expert. nadia blah says it wasn't just the campaign focused on migration that led to his when the war and gaza
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played a significant role and the until a palestinian sentiments pushed ahead filters. many people were encouraged in voting because they feel anti semitism, and caused by muslims is a big problem. others hope you will make life more affordable if someone to come to me, i personally think read the change in the netherlands live. this meant proof was he really has to offer a new coalition government, possibly headed by he had to build this will still take weeks a month to be formed, step fast, and l g 0. answer them to well, that's it for me, molly. inside all i will be back to the top of the out with more coverage of the ongoing. so as we count down to is the scott state change upfront, coming up next. not
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in america is a region of wonder i'm joy tragedy, and yes of violet. but it doesn't matter where you are, you'll have to be able to relate to the human condition. the i've been covering all of latin america for most of my career, like no country is a light, and it's my job defense life on how and why this be october 7th, the tax india has stood firmly behind, is really even as a civilian deaths, all of them environment and stage of guys it continues to mount. but india had until recently, been in israel critic and a historical ally of the palestinian people. what's behind the ship? that conversation is coming up with 1st as the world, as the rages on it is the billiards were paying the highest price mc international has been documenting human rights violations,
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and unlawful feelings. that it says must be investigated as war crimes. but when, and how can accountability happens? joining me to discuss this is this week's headliner. amnesty international secretary general on yes. the unused cuzamano. thank you so much for joining me on upfront. thank you. these really offensive in guys is entering its 7th week in thousands have been killed. and the enclave is effectively on the brink of collapse or last week actually if a hospital was attacked and read it. and then there was a saturday morning bombing, a vision valley, a refugee camp in north guys. israel has said that it's focused on rooting out from mass. uh, but the question is, what costs are they willing to do this? you're the head of amnesty international, your organization, documents, human rights, violations, and war crimes around the world that are committed by all sides of a particular conflict. in this case,
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what violations and what crimes has your organization discovered since october 7, october of 7 attacks by how much culture? a number of war crimes and policy for crimes against humanity. a. d, a response by ease, right, does fall. i includes are lead to need of human rights violations, which also amount to what crimes. unfortunately, what else we have documented the use of salvation as a weapon of all the was a water as a weapon of war. the use of medicine as a weapon of war we have documented inc discriminate disposal from that. and clearly you know, opinion targeted fx on civilians and civilians. object we have documented the use of collective punishment, which is also
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a war crime to. busy the, the volume issues committed by these riley forces in their response to have masses, or war crimes and been sadly and less and then go to the diction weighs in till now. sure. your mind is general. so you've laid out a series of documented violations and war crimes. yeah. which is a part of the equation. but the other part of the equation, of course, is accountability for those war crimes and violations of israel's not a member of the international criminal court. palestine is having joined in 2015, and that has to make the situation even more complicated. can these crimes even be prosecuted and how difficult is it to prosecute war crimes in this case, if israel is not party to the i, c. c. as in the 1st 30 minutes to the delivery of justice
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for the crimes committed by commas and by these written forces is the conditional support. by too many countries, even up toys, ryan, all to him as read. you are mentioning that we are entering a week 7 of the crisis of this conflict. who, while those 7 weeks we, i've seen a reserved support, all the united states, part of the united kingdom, to is around that time to res. i'm support means that there is no uh, uh, to know that the, the, those governments i'll know pushing a focus on the note saying what she's riley is doing say i'm not putting in a focus on that going to be legit and on the delivery of justice as i could say, exactly is the same with those countries that those should go to how much for or so
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as some of them i failed to hold thomas to account them to denounce the crimes. so j o strategist, consideration the re or politics all the main page, the much to the delivery of trustees. the 2nd one is the, um yeah, i would say the, i'm sure of the west of the world right now to forget that there is a context to what is happening now. it is a context of repression. a question or 2, pushing on the side of the tea list. that's context to stick on into account as to and the list is right. a system of outside need story. ok. patients all know taken into account, there will be no delivery of justice. you in the high commissioner for human rights of oak, or to has decried violations of international law and has urged a quote, rigorous investigation. and full accountability however,
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was reportedly denied access to israel and the palestinian territories by these really government. israel has claimed that there are some ass bonkers and weapon stores that are situated within civilian infrastructure. sure. a you and you made it tearing team led by the world health organization was able to access as see for hospital over the weekend. however, access to guys is still severely restricted. how difficult is it for independent organizations like yourself to gain access to? we have means we have people on the ground, we um and they do the slab that she's a board to. i lies the tax allies to a set tonight to 80 done send or the phone. so baby guns did tell me in the nature of the tax, tried to identify whether there was a military necessity to it when possible. we always communicate with these radio,
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sorry kids about all findings. they usually do not praise phones. but as a matter of principle, we uh, you know, let them know we have missed you today or reports such as documented what we believed to be targeted. uh, showing all the shipping yeah. and object including they also docs church in oregon, including a reference you can spin those 2 cases. we have found no evidence of military objectives a nearby as the these radio, sorry. just believed that there was some kind of a terry ochoa gives me a by the teams. so that's taken a lot of questions including welding for those that, that found the future in, in um, in they also docs trips allow me because i think we need to do. we need to live humanity to, to what separately belong to tell you about how much of sorting was in the talk. the dogs church for lost is 3 children, attend,
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or there were like changing the tech. and they told them that the students election or, and i site my hope died was my check on the kidney. or my children was westfield, madison atlanta, usually twin. so have 14. i have no thinking that i should have died was my children. and what about most she lot of these, i am a father whose daughter i go is being ahead of the station goes the ideas told us i me some so much every day that passes becomes more difficult. they are in a very vulnerable situation. and the attacks and gets us can mean a lot a lot. so these also re, i need to be home the feet go behind a certain they as told on me course, she goes off, searching thousands the above $25000.00 people wanted they all 5, those small, those,
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all those on the sisters and she's running smooth office this is the reality of that tool, as we all made to witness those cold g we read is press violation of international that tool we already made. you know, we, maureen, in the memory of allow you money cheat as a moment where the went to the batch on civilian. she totally specs on palestinian point is that the lease to in for us the be a few of us right. and the famed to do so, we own a searching solves on this on now quotients, you have pointed out the double standards between the west, the response to rushes attacks when ukraine versus what we're seeing from the west with regard to is there's a tax in guys that, oh, when you think about that double standard, what are the consequences of the double expensive they've got to, i mean festival, what are we talking about here?
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we're talking about the fact that in the case of russia's aggression against ukraine, the west on the well led by the united states port on the entire international community to convince russia. we actually have time this, the international did the same. you know, we, we have done everything, you know, lead toward power to demand that human rights organizations as governments around the world, the rush of that original new credit. because that is, you know, that's such as unconscionable. what type of now fast forward to uh, goza and, and israel, yes. how much commit to the hinges crimes all over to the similar crimes that to mount war crimes, possible crimes against humanity. there is a context to that crime to those crimes bureau that is
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a context of military occupation. and up on the side we would've expected the united states and other countries to actually take stock of the fact that the ballast and people to fight against that. ok, the issue we would have expected the united states on all the wisdom firewalls, to say ok, 8 police reports ukraine against a rush of aggression. surely, we can do something for palestinians against the occupation by as well. and the regime of outside who is going to trust the united states give on when they have done overall the last 7 weeks. and before that, you know, so it see a tire piece on security seats. the piece. com building because of those double standards on your m s. the has been documenting human rights violations by both for
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mass and israel during the course of this war. and your organization has stated that it found war crimes were committed by both sides. but this statement you anger and criticism from these really governments. what do you say to this? when i say this has been going on for many years, every time we sight violations by these writing government, these really authorities, we all being that shows of anti semitism. the only conclusion that can be extracted from the behavior of these right new authorities is a photo. and you cannot criticize these, right? that's it. that's the only uh, application of their position. they cannot tolerate a criticism. all is right. oh, oh, sorry, jesus riley, governments b as you cannot tolerate, any calling dog repos team on the most people are violations by these riley governments as to be on this. one of the only ones i see is that they, i mean,
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grace company right now. i've seen repulse attacking every, every single un agencies. i've seen report attacking a wrench of although human rights organizations. i've seen a demo. so i've talked to a and did not see as terrorist, palestinian. and the reason why the human rights organization that the out fox news, and often that's on your, on your subject to that. because i think that at all, shape your strategy or your approach to dealing with this issue to pointing out and document is this chance, you know, how do we need to know is how yeah, it hasn't changed packed, uh oh, investigation. it demands that we all be more aware of the actual reality of and to send it to them in the mountains, a lot of the international that we didn't notice to send it to them. you know, it's foam and shapes around the world. this is something we have been doing for
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many years, but to do something we must keep doing and when was prioritized because there is absolutely no way it's on the toner. i board that the actions by these writing governments should be called a used by a to somebody to attack, to jewish people around the world. so, you know, is the most of us that we spend the firm and strong against anti semitism and that we do what she does not piedmont is that we stop and refrain of criticizing these riley governments and monitoring and reporting on them. most people value initials of the rights of publishing and people on this call tomorrow. thank you so much for joining me on upfront. i think the within hours of the mazda attack on october 7th, indian prime minister and the ranger. moti tweeted his support for israel and on
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october 27th indeed, abstained from the u invalid want to cease fire resolution. that's all strong support from other nations in the global south. although it has call for restraint and urge diplomacy, the indian government has repeatedly voice its support for israel. but india and israel have not always had such a close ally ship. its 1st generation of leaders were supportive of palestinian rights and oppose designed as an indian vote against the creation of israel at the u. n. and it was the 1st non arab country to recognize the palestinian liberation organization as the legitimate representative of palestinians. india establish formal ties with israel until 1992 and no indian leader had visited israel until moody did. so in 2017 given this history, it might seem odd to some that moody has relied his country's historical position so quickly. close the watchers of indian politics, however, were less surprised. one of those people, this professor and director of the center for the study of democracy at the university of westminster, natasha cole joins is right now on upfront. it's actually thank you so much for
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joining me. it's easy to see parallels between a prime minister movie and is really prime minister benjamin netanyahu both lead right wing nationalist, religious governments. both have been accused of demonizing muslims for political gain. but isn't that simple? is the fact that moody and nothing? yeah. who shared political views, the reason why india and israel are enjoying such warm ties. now thank you for having me on. i think that you're absolutely right. and how the content in getting prime minister movie, he's a supportable israel. and his 2017 trip to is to israel and you know, what was at the time done? that's a romance between a movie in prime minister. nothing. you know, what is, is an important reason why his supporters and they are an important element in contemporary. and in politics they can do to or the political use of hinduism. his supporters see this as the position they should be focusing. however, this is
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a departure from conventional indian stance on palestine and on the 2 state solution. and even in the optima of being do dr. ministers, remarks a, in october, the ministry of external affairs issued then gratifications and statement, saying that in the us position on the issue on the street by this time has not changed so. so what we have here is a, is a movie that b, j, b, and movies own brand of politics as being the one, as opposed to indian policy. having changed at some point, even the arab nations, which i have signed onto the abraham accords nations that have attempted to quote unquote, normalize relations with visual. they're still calling for a ceasefire. they're still calling for a much more moderate position from israel. and yet india seems to be far more lots that like the united states, with israel's actions at the moment does, does a moment like this show how contradictory some of those attempts are by the,
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by the indian government. the extent of the best ministry without the state months and information concerning the supply of humanitarian aid, etc, behalf. of course, because the government is the movie that we do, the government, they obviously stopped short or calling for us east by and back. not even taken of a leadership role in any, in any sense in any meaningful sense or calling from oh, i can think of the, the shouldn't or anything like that. it's really about assign. the issue in the indian context has become extremely simplified for the, for the worst of the in the small project into something that is about religion. and that is about the repression of muslims by no one was lens. this is simply for them about the fact that what seems auto draft is lemme phobia as something that appeals to them because of how it has resonated with what we have seen in india, especially over the last 9 now nearly 10 years. but let's, let's, but let's start, let's talk about some of those. uh, any houses that are emerging from the bgp uh and its allies. uh,
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i'm thinking specifically about what's been happening online and in the media since october 7th. allies have nobody's willing party to be g p. i have used the october 7th horrific attacks to whip up anti muslim sentiment inside of india, according to the guardian affiliated facebook group compared from mass to militants in majority. muslim kashmir and a prominent right wing talk show host told viewers quote, the same radical jihadist as lama tara was thinking, that is real as a victim of we are a victim of as well. is real, is fighting this war on behalf of all of us. that kind of incitement, does it have a real world impact inside of india, that kind of incitement is tied to the bar to routine in india even prior to october of this year. and that is, that resonates with the public because that has been and because people, they look,
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it's, you know, within the project, people have been enrolled into an understanding that most students are read and that is almost will be a, is it legitimate response to this thread? so and, but, but that are also other factors that not cleared or, of course the, the, the role of fairly well organized and systematic id says, information technology says that often spread a, the misinformation uh, at the least. and, and this information on that is really trying to get people to see a very selective understanding of anything that involves conflict, and especially if it involves minorities and listens. so that is one of the information technology says in that media legal system. that is also, i would argue, uh, kind of a things that we've seen in recent years. we just got one critical to journalism and a gap in fact check us in fact all these right wing projects portrays media and critical media as the end of me that stops people from understanding some some privilege,
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ideal reality it's, it's the, it's the conspirators, this kind of thinking that that price in writing ecosystems, including an india. so the reason that that people will have you hinders what adhere to is we often have, you know, who are expired. the estimation of you, of is the actions is because it ties in with what we have been involved into understanding in line would be in the project. but uh, sadly it is also the, as i said, it is not just the fact that this is a, that views and it's really not a sign have become something that device, the government from the indian political opposition. it is also something that is c, as in line with people's religious identities. we have seen a lot of crackdowns on protests inside of numerous indian states. and what's interesting is it's not just the states that are under a b, j. b control that's doing the crackdown. now there is no official policy that bands
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protests, but we've still seen demonstrators arrested on multiple occasions. but why are the governments in these various states stifling support for palestinians? i think that the legacy of the same rights in india is very significant. and uh, and because they're not a lot of conflict entrepreneurs that would use any, any such a zeal or perceived injury to any one particular community. in order to we bought much greater biden's. the potential for that, i think has to be understood against the background that we're soon heading into the indian general elections. so, so this is, this is, so my understanding would be that this is governments reacting to a bed, very specific instrumentalist interest at state level in the run up to elections, which would, which would die in with, you know, with either what he's about, riots or concerns about votes back. so i'm thinking, for example,
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about kind of an attack out where it probably is governed by the main opposition congress party for those that don't know, police charged 10 activists with creating a public nuisance after they organize a silent march in support of palestinians on october 16th and bengal loaded with the capital of the state. so in an example like that, based on what you're telling me if they had organized the summit march in a defense of israel, for example, we have seen a similar response based on the instrumentalists concerns of the state. in the, in the context of good not to go the be just be the simply law these elections. and that was after the lot of effort and any known b, j. b party in any states constantly runs the risk of being if, if they allow southern kinds of political expression runs the risk of being made good, either extremist or supporting extremism or supporting radicalization. so the egregious
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ease of domestic enjoy parking politics is what is, what defines the, the, the worries that governments have in, at the state level, even if they are not to be just be the member that any position. that is, that is not in line with a very high board nationalist, one on issues that involve minorities. and specifically muslim, such as long push me is seen as support all extremism or support of islamic extremists. even worse, things like saturdays, we're living in and in the context where even critical media can be or in intellectuals or university, academics are targeted for views that would otherwise be perfectly acceptable in liberal democracy. so i think that creates a few items and, and send sure around what it is that can be allowed without being politically able to it as an other. it's all the time we have for right now, professor called,
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