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tv   NEWSHOUR  Al Jazeera  November 24, 2023 10:00am-11:01am AST

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it's increasing in the number of the a trucks. of course, this is all according to how much this franchise tooth holds, especially back now. we are seeing a lot of a civilians who are trying to head back to their homes in the north been part of garza and they had new and been gone to the city. and we are seeing the is really horses positions in those areas. fly or into gas grenay right on those people. all right, human to say that thanks so much i a ceasefire has taken effect between israel and her last under the deal, as well as with lenses from 5 minutes of cause it will stop for 4 days. giving palestinians a brief was 5 from 7 weeks. the
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color that i missed all the attain. this is al jazeera life from dell, also coming trucks, dont entering the roof for crossing from egypt to carrying much needed to military and aid and fuel for palestinians in the gaza strip. ambulances, meanwhile, are starting to carry the wounded from garza to egypt for treatment of families of his ran a captive held in garza and of palestinian prisoners, held by israel. wait for news fella and will also bring you the view from 11 on how this cease fire will affect the pricing between these rarely ami has been on the well it has now just off the $700.00 g m t 8. that's 9 am in the morning in gaza, where she's 5 between israel and her mazda has now been in effect for 2 hours. we have seen some thick black smoke as you see the rising of an old and garza as
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a result of in his riley stripe prior to that held in hostilities bus correspondence on the ground. tell us that. com is now defending across the strip trucks, caring much needed humanitarian aid on now entering gauze that through the roof of border crossing was egypt of the trucks. of also been refueling on the addiction side, bringing that fuel into gaza. ambulances, caring, a number of wounded palestinians are also heading towards egypt, where they will be treated of all the streets of calling eunice, in the south of the gaza strip of busy says the 1st opportunity in almost 7 weeks that people have had to, to move around without the threat of his randy bombardment of the bombing and bloodshed should stop for 4 days on the occasion so far all about this. the spot is holding, meaning $15000.00 palestinians have now been killed in gaza since october, the 7th. the majority of them, women and children, $1200.00 is randy's were killed in ty,
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areas of the strip had been wiped out and the un says nearly 80 percent of the population has been displaced. well, here's what went out expecting in the coming hours. as i mentioned is that safe spot and both northern and southern dogs that has come into effect. these ready ministry spokesman says that their troops will stay behind a c supply line inside garza a fast group. if that team is really kept, as we expect, will be released by him us at 4 pm local time. now that's 1400 cmt. now that's that teen out of 50 is really women and children who are meant to be released as part of the steel and the red cross within a school, through his captive to the russell border crossing and hand them over to these reading and that she will then begin the identification process. those captives will be taken to hospitals in tel aviv for both psychological and physical tests. $39.00 out of a $150.00 palestinian prisoners as part of the deal. going to be released from israel as part of the swap on this 1st day. they will be taken from 2 is rarely
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present, dunham and makita, both of them, se of hyphen then they'll be driven to the o for prison as south of ramallah in the occupied west bank. then there is palestinian prisoners will be taken to a nearby crossing. and handed over to their families in the villages and the areas that they have come from a much needed humanitarian and is also expected to cross from egypt into garza, in the hours that follow from us. it says $200.00 a trucks and fuel will be entering it, cause a daily well, we have a team of correspondence keeping us across all of the developments in the occupied territories as well as ended up in on whether it's been cost 4 to 5 with israel during the war, as well as here in castle where the cx 5 deal was broken and is now being monitored well, fast. let's speak to you on the outside. she's at the roof of crossing for us. you know, we've seen some trucks this morning, leave gauze that presumably to be, we fueled in egypt. i, i understand that they're heading back through the crossing now where all of a yes,
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they're now and i don't see a here in the uh, egyptian side of the border where they have headed from guns that to below the i page. it's inside of the border and should be crossing back into god's now with seed 4 trucks of got a and to check the fuel. go to the egyptian side to be loaded by fuels and cookies gas before they come back. also, they're not the hot crossing spokesman has told us that they expect us no in that he may, terry and trucks entering god so at about $230.00 trucks in total. of course, if this uh fresh i truth or ceasefire continues to hold. oh, so he said that about 100 off the injuries in gods, the hospitals are supposed to be transferred today to
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a lady's hospital. 20 of these injuries so far has been transparent in the past hour. even though we've been hearing for for weeks now, the only a that's made it into the strip so far has really been dropped in the ocean. how does this stuck out the age of the that i'm also saying they're expecting to come in in the coming days. it's obviously more than things made it in so far. a well, it is more, but it's still not nearly enough to uh, to feed all or to be to be enough for all the people, especially here in this selves. and part of the goal is to a strip. we're talking about over 2000000 people in the strip will have no. 7 barely nothing to rely on. people that have not been working for almost 2 months now because of the war. they have no, any belongings left. they have no, this is open. they have no,
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there's no food that has been entering the strip. the strip itself has run out of the food supplies that where inside uh and, and stored before the beginning of the war. so there is a lot, oh, most of every ping. there's no water. there's the fuel. there is no uh, fluid. so what is entering is barely isn't going to be shown or make a difference with the amount of need and the amount of humanitarian aid that is lacking here in the strip with all of these people. but the people are expecting that and they're hoping actually that there's going to be a huge increase or a quick increase the number of you're going to turn in a trucks and even fuel and gas trucks. i mean, the fuel that is entering this is almost 830002840000 liters. we've been hearing numbers between 113114000 liters. but what is needed in the strip
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is over 250000 meters. so that's a huge difference between what this entering and what is actually needed. of course, not in terms of inc told us that there are a little bit about aid. i was asking you earlier about fuel, we are also expecting more movement of people across that border to you talked about some people being evacuated from medical treatments. tell us about what we're expecting to happen in the coming days. as, as part of this deal. obviously access but in and out of this trip has been extremely, extremely difficult. oh, well, yes. today also uh the, the egypt to the story teeth. and now that palestinians who are stuck in the egypt should sides since the beginning of this war and were not able to enter through the goal is the strip will be allowed to cross over today and enter into gaza starting
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from today. and of course. 6 on the upcoming days, why do we also see a movement of some of the people who are traveling from gaza? these are usually doing nationals that are still being able to travel. the number of the people traveling from gaza strip towards the egypt or other countries is usually from $300.00 to $400.00 per day all together. so um, between uh egyptian nationals and dual nationals and other uh, 40 nationalities. but we are all so hoping that there's going to be an increase in more ease in the number of people being able to come out and be able to enter the gaza strip to check on their families. and you know, just very briefly, before i let you go earlier, i was watching children play on the street that behind you something we haven't seen in weeks. can you just very briefly give us a, a sense of the mood and rough or the moment?
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oh yes. definitely uh, seeing civilians actually and residents in the streets. c we see uh some show that have actually opened their doors. uh, seeing kids in the street go out to play and enjoy the, the, the calmness of the street. we don't hear drones above our heads. this is something that people here were very, very excited about in the past few or like in the past hour when this uh to us started coming into it. some people were very cautious and very, they're still very cautious about this truth, especially that we are, we are the ceasefire especially that we're hearing news, news sound to you now about people are in fact you, we use who have evacuated from the north that are trying to head back to their
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homes, to check on them because this a temporary cease fire for the people here. what it news for them is that they would actually start to get some called they would very, they're killed. they would go and check on their injuries in the hospitals, and most of firms are and for both go back to check and inspect their homes, trying to get some of their belongings that they have left when they run away and evacuated to this so. so if that doesn't happen, it's for them. this is something that is considered extremely devastating. of course, and this is a faster spies, mean 7 with whom the other side, the on the ground for us at the roof or crossing. thank you. you me. well that's now speak tell correspond to her a couple of them. he's in hon unit that's in the southern part of the gaza strip park. how things looking on the street. so i know where i need to hours and we were hearing that from you in the sense of, of possible relief. a people that feeling like they can breathe
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a little uh yes, aust, just uh up to 2 hours of the ceasefire. 2 hours clear of the sound of these when he drives 2 hours, which also way we did not reports about on the injuries or of the king of any innocent power. thing is for us, the church read or palestinians taught to prove a best, has the full day truce talks to else. what is also important to say back to people in the different areas. of course the church right now, a fee and having a sense of who's and even try and credit seats with, with the absence of the east, pretty surveys and defy to jumps from this cause of the gaza strip. which charlotte, the gaza strip throughout 7 weeks, a, fighting with a religious number of a strikes actually own set for areas. of course the church read now palestinians offset the ceasefire just took place practically on the ground on the absence of these very drugs. some of the palestinians just decided to head back again to the
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houses, even in the fall and most of the gaza strip because they have, they don't, with the situation on the south and off that they have such a lot without having a very safe show. and teeth, and they would like to check on the houses and all that to see what has remains from that for per each is in the north and central areas of gauze of $65.00 in terms of the general moods of palestinians, of course that there are 3, believing that these kinds of humanitarian aid that will be delivered to the gaza strip was partially helped to mitigate the aggravating human to generate prices, especially with the allowed. busy of the entry of, if you and does, which has prevented for long weeks from entering the gaza strip on the ground list . justifications now was also important to say that published because, believe that this kinds of truths move past the weights of fed a long time. truth to be here between post box for outreach november, the 8th is ethics and as we speak topic, we actually watching some of those fuel trucks starting to move through the roof across the me understand they left because that could be refills in egypt. looks
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like they all certainly making their way back into the strip. you mentioned topic that we might see more movements of people around the strip, obviously. so many people have to, to leave their homes. families have been special. is this also an opportunity for people to reunite or maybe even find some way of safe or if they feel that the, the area that they were living in has, has been been on the various to be of on buttons. yes. yeah. even the southern area is that the got the is right, occupation forces had recommended people from the nose to play, to has been, have been bombarded for out the last couple of weeks pop people generally inside because of strep. besides a lot they lost the house, has been lost, the loved ones, and they have really closely evicted to the, to the south of the gaza strip on the very intense level of east, ready for moment. now they have the suffering of a lot of water. the lack of food and even the limited amount of human attorneys that have been delivered for out the last couple of weeks to the disease in place as they are facing a very searching at problem in terms of having access to food. now they want only
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to go back again to the houses and even do even give a chance to the people. even most of god, just step to receive humanitarian phase as, as these areas did not receive till this very moment. any type of humanitarian aid that had been delivered previously. so critically, people have nothing to lose off or destruction of the houses, the one just to the few homeless. the want to go back again to the house of the don't want to repeat the palace to me unless i get the power steering catastrophe that took the baseball interest is in 19 full to 8. so the flood understands the level of suffering that they have in the south. so they make the decision to return again, despite all these danger and all the risk that might be really imposed in them due to the existence of the east by the troops on posts making roads that linking the south with the most of the character, tara, we know something like 7000 remove and 7000 people are missing possibly is still trapped under the rubble. what's the situation like now with,
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with search and rescue efforts? is this a moment as well that the people have the ability to to go back in and tries of tanya loved ones? yes, that's right. as these very strikes destroyed, the majority of the buildings are taking about uh, 2 sides of the people who have been evacuated to be stopped in regards to the houses had been partially opened seats destroyed by the east, by the author, the re, or by the use but it strikes now clearly there are still people still missing under the rep and said, this food think choose will give a clue chance and look for tennessee for the policy and civil defense, cruise and even for local palestinians to stop searching and digging for their beloved ones who are still stuck under the rustles of the destroyed houses, at least in order to pull them out and fury them in golden symmetries. now what is also important to say that those people have been under the russell's and the events have been not given a chance to, to the civil defense themes in order to rescue them into,
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to the east bed. the prevention of any entrance to these areas which consider it to be a bottled zone offered is right after patient forces not now with this to say you should of the minute to ask from both sides on the ground. civil defense team has a very goes into for tennessee in order to evacuate them. and even a, it's a identify do was missing to their families in order to be handed over to them and to be later periods. and the symmetry is of golf us to a talk have a was there in the reporting for us from the ground and con eunice and the southern part of the gaza strip. thank you very much, tara. well, let's not get the view from occupied is true. so then we can speak to a correspondent mohammed john june. who's that for us? mama. let's start with the mood. the 2, i know families of captives have been anticipating this moment for such a long time. not sure if it would even happen at all. that's right in the sides. yeah. and we should mention that over the course of the last 2 days, once the news started to come out is real. that this cease fire was going to be
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happening. and that captive is held in gaza. is riley's would start being released . you had is really officials essentially warning the family members of those captives to not get their hopes too high. just yet essentially telling them to tap down their expectations that nothing would be certain or final until those captives had actually been able to re enter israel. so we've not yet heard from any of the family members of that 1st batch of captives, those 13 women and children who are expected to be released later today. and in fact, the israeli government has repeatedly warned members of family members of those captives not to speak to the media yet. they've also warned the media not to publish any leaks about if they had those names of potential captives that would be released. we have seen over the course of the last few weeks, there's been a lot of concern and a lot of anger directed toward prime minister netanyahu for how he and his government have handled the issue of trying to ensure the release of these captives
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. you saw last week of march, thousands of people go from tel aviv to jerusalem, to express their outrage with the fact that they didn't think the government was doing enough to get those captives released. now of course, there is a mood of cautious optimism amongst those relatives. there is a sigh of relief amongst many of them that they expect that these captives will start emerging. but there's still a lot of worry for the relatives who don't yet know if their relatives will be on the list that are forthcoming in the next few days. so it's very much a mix sort of reception right now. certainly there haven't been any public polling or surveys done as to the mood of these really public, but when it comes to the family members of those captives, there is some relief there is cautious optimism, but they are still concerned. they wanna make sure that things go as smoothly as possible, natasha off. will you say cautious optimism, know how to. we know that as well as also saying that off to this, this for days 5 that the will will go on. given that this course is optimism about what's taking place right now, is this the appetite for the water continue of the. so
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what's interesting about is the mood in israel, when it comes to, you know, the approval rating of the prime minister. and when it comes to the approval of what's going on in gaza, the military campaign, those are 2 very divergent things. so let me just mention that when it comes to conventional political wisdom and israel at a time of war, usually you see a prime minister get a boost in their approval ratings. um, but that has not been the case. this time survey after survey has shown since october 7th, that while, you know, there's broad public support for the military and for the military campaign in gaza . and there is still this rallying around the flag that is going on when it comes to what people perceive of the job it and it's in yahoo is doing his approval rating and trusting his leadership have plummeted to record low. so that's where things stand right now. people are worried about what's going to happen next, but they approve of the military campaign. military leaders here have continued to
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reiterate the message that this is a temporary cease fire. and the once the cease fire is over, they will continue with the military campaign until they've achieved their objectives of releasing all the captives and destroying how much. but on the other hand, you've also had is really officials over the course of the last few days or did anonymously in a lot of his really publications saying that they expect that the ceasefire could actually be extended, may be to as many as 10 days. so different messages, different narratives, all happening at the same time because it is a fluid situation. but again, cautious optimism right now, we're not hearing any negative reactions from these really leadership at this hour . people seem to believe as things are progressing smoothly. the only thing, as we mentioned, the study is the only point where these really is our warning that there could be tension throughout the day is when it comes to the fact that these really military is saying that they believe that how much is going to encourage civilians in gaza and push them to try to return to the northern part of the gaza strip. and these really army has said that if that happens,
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they will use crowd dispersed dispersal methods to ensure that, that this stops stops you very interesting will be keeping a very close eye on that area for you. mama john in june in occupied east jerusalem with a view from that. thank you. mohammed will not speak to the english robbie. he joins us now from novice in the occupied westbank. then i was just discussing with mohammed, the families of captives that are set to be released that the mood that now kind of spinning family is where you will have been waiting even longer for this moment. do we know who's going to be released today to what we know is that the palestinian authority does have a list of $39.00 names that they are expecting will be part of the swap deal. we're also hearing at the same time. that is not necessarily perhaps the final list, not necessarily the one that the palestinians had been hoping for. and we do know that none of the families as of yet have been informed whether their loved ones. their relatives are one of those $39.00 names. and as the hours carry on,
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as the day goes on, the hope of the people we've been speaking to the families who've had their relatives in prison a 2nd 3rd time for many, many months. their hope is fading a little bit more. one of the family members we spoke to said that it is the not knowing that is the worst part that the uncertainty has been consuming them. for days we spoke to the uncle of a child, a teenager. the hope is his family. we'll see him at some point as part of this release process today, or in coming days, but they say it is bitter sweet, they're happy, but he's already served 12 months of a, of a 13 month sentence. the israelis have already extracted all the punishment. they could out of him and he's already lost a year of his young life. so there's a lot of mixed emotions going on. we also know that there are military and police is really military and police deployed to several villages to several towns and areas across the occupied west side to suppress and stop any palestinians from
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public celebrations from any public displays of joy. visa v. this walk deal once people are released, continuing to bring pressure down to bear upon posting in communities in the occupied territories. and speaking of that, this day comes in the backdrop of events that are continuing to happen here. we saw raids happening in jericho this morning. 3 passengers in a car were shot at their fate. the fate of their car, unknown at this time, a home engineer in belonging to someone who was killed in an alleged attack and television august. his home has been demolished 6 of his family members now on the street and here in novelist, in downtown deep inside the heart of the old part of the city in a market. there was an early morning under cover special operations raid by a 14 man is really military squad. in on march cars, they drove up dot changed into the uniforms set their cars on fire and rated
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someone in the market a shop in the market, detaining 2 people, shooting an injuring one. so these incidents, these raids, carry on and check. the pressure continues to build on people him here in the occupied territories, while people wait for any news of loved ones that may or may not be released at this stage. is and is robbie with a license for us from novice in the occupied west bank. thank you jane. well, that's and i'll speak to a different magic editor james base. he's here in the country capital where the deal that we're seeing now in effect was broke and he joins us live. james, i know it's early days when just over 2 hours in, but still this is fine. and this, this captive deal is only stay a huge step. where does this now leave broad at different classic efforts? is the gulf, do you think going to continue leading the way this as well? certainly i think what's important in these sorts of things is momentum. and we've
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had a good start, and i think that will be hoping that the men, the men, tim continues throughout the day. this has been structured in a very careful way that each time something happens from one side. there's a response from the alpha. and that is, i think what they're hoping is going to happen. a lot of, uh, february, castle diplomacy is gone into this for weeks. and normally, when you have diplomacy on many issues, it's done by diplomats, but in many cases this diplomacy was done by the leaders themselves, the mayor of cutoff taking a role the prime minister of categories also informed us to take an important role . the us. yes, of secretary state lincoln was here a but so was present bible involved in some of the goals and some of the display diplomacy that had a most sad came here from these righty side. cancel is being the country that has been the lynch pin, but of course egypt also important because the aid going into a gauze or is an important part of this. and in many ways,
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egypt controls the gate that's being used, the roof or gate in into gaza. what kind of that will be happening now? is that the way they've done the diplomacy in the mediation for this is the way that going to try it now to keep this holding to make sure there are no violations . they're going to be in touch with all sides, but most importantly, with these riley's and how miles they have operations room with real time links to both. i mean, ideas is if there's any problems at tool, any hiccups, any violations, even that they've got to speak to both sides, straight away with that real time information and try and, and deal with a violation then to make sure they're in that and to make sure that it doesn't, in any way disrupt these full days. and of course, got so many of those hoping that this can go beyond full days and, and that they can be more captives released by how may i ask them, potentially by other groups smoke prisoners released by israel and more aid
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crucially for the people of gauze allowed into the strip. mm. so it's been very, very hands on and for casa, the united states also pay deposits and pushing for this field. james, do you have a sense of what the vitamin ministration is now saying to is relevant as well? i think the by an administrator who really wants to steal because one of the considerations for the 5 administration all the market. and so all americans among the captives being held by him, us and other groups in gaza and they want to get those people out. but i do think there is a increase pressure now potentially on the us, on israel, on some of the other countries in europe that say israel has the right to continue . it's more. ready or because israel certainly has made it clear that they've not reached their objectives, that they are going to do everything to destroy how mouse and the war starts. the full scale on smart stops at some point in the future. but the rest of the world
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doesn't agree with that. it hasn't agree, but that 4 weeks now. and i think the fact that you're going to see the pictures, i think if this holds up a going in of people being released by both sides just increases the pressure on israel. and on those countries, the us notably and some of the others that are supporting israel in its desire to continue this onslaught. because as things stand, the voices of these really will cabinet. a really, really clear. this is only a temporary seeing spot, only a temporary responds and then that full scale bombardment is going to starts again . i'm going to mention those, those pictures of a is making its way into gaza. well, actually watching that now. a trucks crossing at the roof across same heading and with supplies. we know that the united nations and various different agencies have been saying that what's made it and so far has been nowhere near. and also we're hearing that also from our correspondence on the ground at rough that you'll know
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what's next now for the united nations, not only in terms of the humanitarian side of things, but also in terms of a potential diplomacy that a well, the un i've been following this very, very closely view inspector general's i've seen on topic that right now ahead of the cop 28 summit, but i'm told by his people he's been watching very, very closely what has been happening now. the u. n. has been building up. it stops all by 8 um on the junction side, applying things into the lariche base. and they've been doing that for weeks and weeks and weeks hoping to bring in more aid at the point of a c spot. but there is a limit to how much a come come in through roughly in many ways rafa is a bottleneck and there is no indication that this route is prepared to let aid coming from israel, or the much bigger crossing that the israel controls. so there's a limit to the aid that will come in, even if this temporary spot is extended for
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a few days. be on the full day mock, the, the un, i think, as felt on the why, the mediation, the can't talk is the right channel full. this council with the help of egypt with the help of the united states, they probably have the best way to negotiate as they have done here, this temporary c swap between israel and homos. but israel, but the un what? she's this closely because it still believes that the way forward is a pro. busy pay scale between israel and the palestinians. it's still believes that there is a room for a 2 state solution unless i think the u. n. will be working with other countries. just try and see how that can be realized. obviously very early to talk about that off to the bombardment we seen in only a couple of hours of the ceasefire. but i think it gives that dream that some have certainly the un has in many an international community, perhaps
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a little bit more life than it did just a few hours ago. out of the navigator, the james based air force in live for us from the category capital their home. thank you very much, james. well, as we've been saying, the war in garza has been threatening to destabilize the whole region. the lebanese group has blah and given 3 thieves have increased their attacks on israel and response to a tool and gaza. that's features in a hold on. she's in be rude for us. 11 use capital is in it. so many countries have been trying to avoid regional escalation. it does look like they've been fairly successful so far, but tensions have been rising. how is this these 5 being viewed very well, it is quiet along the border. no doubt to welcome respite because many and 11 on were concerned. the conflict was largely confined to a few kilometers deep on each side of the border. but the possibility of an escalation has always been there has been a source telling us that they will abide by this truth as long as,
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as well. does these really army spokesman saying that they will respond to sources a fire or threats? so indicating that it to will abide by the truth along the 11 on israel board, which really wasn't mentioned in that cease fire agreement between as well. um, how much has bullet entered the conflict as a show of support to it's like how much in gaza. so if the ceasefire does not hold or it's not expended, then we can expect the conflict to resume along the border. and many are really worried because the is really foreign minister, for example, is telling has a lot of things, attacks infinity. we will no longer tolerate this. and there could be all $411.00 on the iranian foreign minister was here a few days ago. and he also threatened an expansion of the conflict if that cease fire doesn't hold. we have been in southern lebanon for the past 7 weeks, and we watched this conflict really gradually escalates at the beginning. sporadic exchanges of fire,
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but as of late there have been intense exchanges of fire. it has been that lease has well a losing up to 19 men palestinian fighters losing up to 15 men and 14 civilians killed, including reporters who were directly hit by as really fire the aircraft carriers in the mediterranean, a guided missile submarine. the u. s. has deployed military assets that it says are intended to deter the widening of the war in gaza and protect its interests across the region. it has used force in one of the latest incidents, the us central command. so the warship patrolling the red sea intercepted multiple attack drones launched from who see controlled areas in human the who these have declared themselves part of the so called excess of resistance of iranian allies. we tell you anything against israel's war on god. why is it after that on a business stance, leaders in the region say that until the full rights of the state of palestine are
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realized and until an outcome is reached and confronting the occupation in the regions and that they will keep. the thing is on the trigger, e and the boss he runs for administer was speaking in the booth where he issued yet another warning. this time threatening the expansion of the war if the ceasefire agreed by as well. and how much doesn't continue has been the main player and the access is already engaged in intense exchange as a fire with the is really army along the lebanon border. and iraq armed groups have escalated attacks on us troops stationed there and in neighboring syria. but some believe iran is trying to avoid direct confrontation with israel and the us $20.00 and once an immediate cease fire in order to prevent an expansion of the conflict, potentially to southern 11 on northern is a on of course is border with syria. whereas below is likely to be active and that
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could explain the step by step escalation along regional front lines. the so called excess of resistance appears to be basing its strategy on the time factor relying on how masses resilience in the face of his really attacks. and global efforts to end the war. a bronze foreign minister highlighted more than 6 weeks of what he called her role with palestinian resistance. but many worn as well as not showing restraint. we should expect a wider escalation in the region, not only because of the unity of the friends and the fact that they have to defend um they're all right. how about us and this and this a topic. but because i think they believe in the next phase, you know, once as well as diamond, gaza, it was done, it's kind of nice and back it ons that watkins, specifically as the loan south level of guns may fall silent for a few days,
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but without political and security arrangements, the rules of engagement could change at any moment. santa, who there else was either no quarter. so there are 11 on well, that's now bringing duty. and lovey, he's a columnist of the har at squarespace and he joins us now from tel aviv good, and thanks for being with us again on al jazeera, i want to start with the, the feeling right now in israel this morning, relief from the families of some of the captives, but it's not sheldon brody. as you rightly say. yes that's yeah, it's very mix that with the cheating she on one hand there is a lot of hope is everything we look when on the other side everyone understands. it's every single right. that was very, very strange i me, but the nation was sent to mentees united there on the release of as many hostages as possible. don't forget that we are leaving today was a baby's children and their mothers. so emotional needs even more so. and
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unfortunately, nobody looks at the other side because there is also emptiness in the other side where the prism of those but as in prison, this will be released as you just read both a few minutes ago. and again, i want to ask you about that specifically i, i've been wondering how people in israel are feeling about that that release of palestinian prisoners because this was an exchange. yeah. so, so to those prisoners, so not a sentence to verizon periods. and they none of that was a well during the photo, so it's easier to digest. and besides, i think that's right. busy these are the societies so concentrates into releasing that is really the host address. the it's hardly mentioned the fact that they are the same price and this will be released today as it's hardly mentioned. and as the shuffle slip, the bluff goes out. but that's another issue. well,
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we know that the defense minister, you'll have to go on to saying that this will, will still continue for months after the cease fire from our recent conversations get in. it sounds like there is public support for that. on this 1st floor that makes a bold to release as many hostages as possible, namely all of that. and then there is a something to continue the war because it was declared that one of the main goal is maybe the main goal was stretching because this didn't happen yet by all means no. and therefore there will be support for continuing the war. i just hope between not continuing the same intensity because if it continues in the certainly density, which means moving down to the so the steep with 12000000 people are now concentrated, but it's very smaller piece of land. i don't want to imagine my simple black box didn't take place there. get in,
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you were talking there about people being crammed and we are watching now. some aid make its way into the southern parts of the gauze and straight through the rasa. crossing. now one of the biggest issues, one of most controversial issues in terms of that was fuel. there is fuel we believe making its way into the gaza strip this morning. we saw some tank is being refueled. how people and israel feeling about that now because there was a lot of anger when, when the governments decided to allow fuel and fast bass. yeah. but the motion change, very emotions change very rapid. this right. and now for the eyes, it concentrated the release. it sort of grew, nobody cares about is any more. but let's also remember what the aide is kind of seeing into gaza. is it jumping the ocean? i mean, it's about 2000000 people who need so much more get in. i do also want to ask you about what's going on now, and it's really politics because we were hearing audio from our correspondence and
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occupied you through. so i'm gonna jump dream about and nothing yahoo is but a school was, how is he viewed now in the context of the steel? and they're talking, man, it's very clear that nobody is going to do anything until the war will be over. but dangling the frustration of very big including his own party. it's under the surface. nobody from east property for sure. no, no, but the best to, to say word in public. but it's very clear that the whole will be over at that wouldn't be some kind of way to, to get through the team, either evictions and then both something very big from his point of view or in other ways. but i don't see him overcoming this. yes, me getting it feels like this is, is a bit of alignment to take stock, not only for, for people in gaza to understand the extent of the destruction,
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but also for people outside of the gaza strip. to understand what's taking place that are over the last 7 weeks, do you think it is that comes to light might not change minds in israel going for? why do seems to do the 219 is right, and nobody really showing pistachio. that's part of the problem that he's reading media is the hob new showing what's going on and goes up and decide is don't want to know what's going can guess we a base, riley's level stuff. they've almost all of them are concentrated only in their own morning. get agony and holes and nobody cares about because i'm, i'm afraid to say to the very q way, nobody it is a cast of all. does i eric about gas phase almost egypt, the rates get in lovey, economist at the hearts newspaper. joining us from tennessee if that thank you again for sharing go here is getting a thank you. well,
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in the studio we now have mohammed shekoya, the professor of conflict resolution and diplomacy at george mason university. and our correspondence has some, alvaro, thanks so much for joining me in this, in the studio gentlemen. obviously it's early days yet where what now about 2 hours and 45 minutes and or so, but it does appear to be holding so far as i'm i want to start with you because you've been following the still very, very close the over nitty gritty and this is being very what's very, very closely here in the high understand as an operation center. james is telling us about that how, how closely uh, how hands on all the categories being the ones who made a significant impact to bring about this agreement. it was almost impossible, it took full weeks of hardware trying to convince these fridays, and how much to make some concessions to get to this point. or because of the very nature of this agreement, which is really based on an operational aspect, which is things as they move on the ground by the 2nd,
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by the minute and by the hour they have this operations center varying tests with these red is the most up, yeah, and with how much the political bureau established in doha and the lead the sea based in gaza. and they would like to ensure that today, you know, wait, stands as the highlights of the agreement, no major violations. the release of the competence and exchange of the prisoners, the no fly zone and but particularly more 8 into a government. and this explains why they've been tied clips since yesterday looking forward to seeing this further move out of the day to come up and provide us with more updates. well, the way that the whole deal has been structured is james was saying earlier, it's one thing followed by another thing. so one side does something, the other side responds wellness. it feels like it's very much structured in order to try to build confidence in the deal and moving forward. or are you optimistic?
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well, how long about how it's all going so far? there is no other choice. both of them is i'm, since we're awaiting the magic moment of the photo broke. the release of 15 is about 80 hostages from does a throw. they are off of gross corals in point, and they would be delivered to the red cross. but the portion is also not clear with that we also have another list of about a city in prison, how they're going to be released and gwen. this is a bit confusing. so i'm not looking at a clear folder for legit mediation that has led to this swapped deal. it seems that there are certain details the nothing you know and his world cabinet of trying to control into smaller details. and this is where i think he is raising high expectations. 13 today another to 10 on saturday, another 15 sunday on monday. but the question also if he is in bed then this the
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pro much to tell them that we've been his military power part time was going to happen on, on, on tuesday. and he had, i think, but i become bit skeptical that 84 talking about a mediated mediation that has led to this d. and it should continue, we need to maintain the momentum photo or however, if we drifted back to 510, and the, or the kate and how much guys? i think this becomes counter productive in the middle east politics. well, the captives that we're talking about that, that teen today, that's a 13 out of 50, which has been agreed on right now. all of those 50, i understand all civilians that women and children. how soon do you know? so do we have any understanding of when negotiations are on the rest of the captive? so this is what is happening on a daily basis. there is an exchange of information on the final list that goes to how boss to be finalized. okay,
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goes to the most sense to be finalized and then they relate that to the thomas. and this is going to be done on a daily basis of this explains why yesterday, because i thought a spokesperson of the missile folded up as didn't wait. if elaborate on this for the same reason, as of this is something which is going to be decided every day on a daily basis, why they're doing face because they just cover all the realize. the only way for this to move forward is to handle it on a daily basis. you cannot set it into study in advance and say, listen, we have this bulk of the list implemented on the ground. it is new to these rad is it, is new to how math is extremely difficult, and they do understand that if they face today, it's not going to be just faded on this. these by is going to be a failure that could have far reaching consequences on the agreement. the stuff that, by the way, i thought it says 2 days ago, the normal token just only about this is why this saying that we need to be
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a bunch of full, a permanent solution to this crisis. and we have to mind a view as it is a gulf countries summit, which is going to be held in doha, in about 2 weeks from now. and the reason why you're having this summit will, so i'm on many other issues of the need to build original autobahn muslim and hoping for the national bush for the 2 states. so the issue i'm trying to find the general unity is specifically on that. obviously the big question is whether this could become more then then a 4 day cease 5. let me throw this one at you mom. and because we were talking about the captors being released and this being an iterative thing, right, that teen today, more and more, once we hit the 50, that has been a suggestion. that's that, it could, it could be an extension of this is fine with move, kept as being released after that. so it was, i think, 10 per day set of an extension. obviously there's, there's a finite number of captives being held. so how long could this potentially be
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extended for more of the cult thought is have hoped to do, would maintain the momentum. so for on the release of the hostages presented as to the delivery of more humanitarian a trucks. now is that our 8 is i've just accepted 200 instead of 300, so the number is shrinking. so the more we read into this deal today and tomorrow, the more we realize that it is missing. so some puffs. so if we don't to maintain the momentum in this kind of the deals and this kind of mediation, then we have to go back on the little on to the drawing board again on tuesday or wednesday, or next week. so it's a matter of how pragmatic this will be, can be when we analyze it monday night, did all the work. we're going to have the whole 50 hostages released. are we going to have the $150.00 prison was released from them? is that right? these are the lead to the, to the mobility is that we should observe closely or otherwise we cannot just
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celebrate the same boy, like just shut off today. but we need to also look at the how far it is done and a result oriented process among how much for more days that are age and also most of washington, you say a results oriented process. now in terms of results is what it has said that they haven't reached their objectives, they're going to be continuing their role. i'm curious about what you think might happen in the next few days. obviously it is. it is meant to be of the seas find garza, but we know that have been escalating raids in the occupied westbank for instance. and the seats find doesn't cover the or of the palestinian territories. so could we see an escalation of o'clock down elsewhere? well, there is a contradiction and there isn't any position. on the one hand, they are going to resume the killings of those civilians and goza. they are going to occur the number of those a money city and trucks. at the same time,
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the out of leaving this slow, when of we are engaged in this, this what then it doesn't add up in terms of managing, let alone a result of in the conflict. so i, i'm hoping that the categories would be more capable of engaging the is about it, is that it's not a pause. it should not be just a pause or to show us, but we need to work with the pin. it is of conflict of confusion, immunization doesn't mean that we need this is 5, and then we have some capacity built in and trust building measures and then move on to next week. otherwise, if we did extra book, we cues what we have achieved owns the friday, and i'm on the i'm wondering about what this looks like on the ground right now in gaza. and in terms of the nitty gritty, if it's the steel because the seas find means that is really trips as a place to stay behind. some kind of piece by line. there's not supposed to be any kind of one button and that's all seems to be holding. so the phone just a few hours and we do know that there has been people detains justin an event of an
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eye as and the last day or so they all she for hospital director was detained by is really forces we know those funds were dropping right. up until the last minute we saw smoke rising, just as that safe spot to play this in terms of how this is. this is going to be monitored by the categories. i'm wondering about whether or not something like that with a say arrest could continue or, or any kind of the tensions could continue. it's obviously a very fragile situation. could that the rail, the steel arrest was definitely to re disagreement. and yesterday, this book supposed to have a 1000 minutes here for the fast. when asked about the direct to the shift, i said, i'll get back to you once i'm gathering more information from the supervision. is that the very nature of this agreement that because of that does not have a group of people on the ground and goes up very rely on the, on the operations a room there listening to how most of the listening to the is radish. i would
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personally assume that by later in the afternoon when the thoughts of the exchange of the captives is when they are released, that is changed for the prisoners. that's going to be the highlights of the agreement. yeah. then the thought is was continue monitoring the no fly zones, the timeframes, and the survey areas, which is the prerequisites for how much they say would you like, we're not going to see drones blank over the southern parts and the northern ponds . the moment when we are carrying the captives into a specific point, whether we'd be taken over by, by the i c, r c and those things the really need to be set into stone today. yeah. with that, she's going to give us an indication of what happens tomorrow if you managed to hold the agreement today and tomorrow it's going to be a significant breakthrough. yeah, everyone's been hoping for that person while barra. i'm how much are cool. we thank you so much for joining me. a really interesting discussion in the studio as well. let's get more out on what's happening on the ground right now in gaza. is that
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come yet? is joining us. he's had to move from the all shot to refugee camp in the north of the country, to hon. eunice in the south, and he joins us now from that. is that thank you so much for being with us. can you tell us a little bit about how you're feeling right now, how you and your family and everyone around you is dealing with today? hi, thank you. we are actually having a mix feelings. mm hm. we are still snivla's. we are heavy, the see sign up is started, and that kidding stops. and glad to think and coping but, but see, so i got ahold of, we have a mix feeding people as well. uh, buddies, uh about the disk and the casualties. the people who are in do the people out of spending hosp, then that'd be what i'm not getting enough for the month. and just so we have
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a mix of feelings and we don't know these have to be heavy or said we are actually, we are like, you know, our house is it broke in our house, out of broken everything is broken and doesn't. now, we don't know how to how life will continue after this, but we are like spills narrative. it's, it's, it's okay i'm, i'm hearing now. uh, sure thing. i think it's on the border of con eunice on the eastern. pardon me? yeah, i'm, i'm having a meeting the sounds know. so we'd look, we'd look sure like, yeah, it's none of us. i'm sure, after, after nearly 7 weeks of that fun button and you had to flee at your home and they all shot to the refugee camp. we know that there was ongoing bombardment and in that area is that, do you have any plans to, to go back over the next 4 days to, to see your home and perhaps see anyone else who has, who has been left behind as
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actually we, we can't we can't go because the, the is the, the, um, you said it's not the nobody who's allowed to go back to the north and people are afraid like, is it on the boat or not? i think it's, it's dangerous. if we go back because they are still on the is that all the stupid, anything the north and south of best though? so i still have some of my by me, they explained to me that i have some systems. it's been in the no, we don't know what's, what's happening or what happens to them. uh, we have other like being that they've still extended by me there. and the other one is about them and we don't know what's, what's happening there. and so we don't know what happens, but a lot of how as when we list a lot of them and we live everything behind. and we know if the house is in the standing or for the story, nobody, nobody knows but,
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but really happens there. and we thought we'd love to learn about anything. and we just the things that the c span holds is that in terms of where you are now in con eunice and in the south, we know so many people, something like 2000000 people have now been in crimes into a very small area of land. and surprise, obviously have been running shortly. we started seeing some aid moving into the gaza strip. do you have any sense of, of how to access any of that? what a, what a conditions like that in con eunice in terms of being able to access food and basic supplies. zach i'm just checking if you can hear me or i'm afraid we've, we've lost is connie, a, a resident of the gaza strip, who fled from the north into the south and, and just joined us as a tell us about how that sees fine was playing out on the ground,
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and obviously we know that the seats fund has been in place now for coming up on 3 hours. and we are waiting to see how that continues. well, let's take you now to some live pictures of the roof of crossing, whereas you can see a truck. so been lining up ways into across we did see some movements that earlier, not only of a trucks, but also of some fuel tank, is which we understand left the gaza strip, to refuel an egypt and then have headed back into the strip will be watching all of that very closely for you here, announces 0. well, actually, lowenstein is an independent journalist and the ortho of the palestine. the bar tree. he says the extent of the damage that israel has inflicted on garza in 7 weeks has been unprecedented. the amount of destruction in gas is in terms of urban, well fed is according to many experts. well, some of the worst in the world war 2. now obviously in the last 80 years so use has
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been, shoot him out as a horrible conflicts around the world. from russia, ukraine to parts of africa here and elsewhere, to the us mission and try the rhetoric and ready to guide us as in most old. and despite that, most experts that i've spoken to say that the destruction guys are in 6 weeks has been unprecedented. essentially for a few years, and that means that northern part of garza no longer exist apocalyptic. and the fear is that after these current truce, so called truce ends in 4 or 5 days, it, israel has pretty much openly said that they have every intention to continue this rule. and that means a southern part of gaza. and ultimately, what many people are asking, including tell us any and friends of mine in gaza. that once i'm able to speak to is, is southern passive guys or destroy a little bit or right. and no living quarters exist. where are they supposed to go beyond that? and it's a pretty jock reality. what that might, main folder is things that israel can do can get away with the building, any other nation can because of title,
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global in community people and talking about the us is relationship, which obviously is central to this. but it's not just them, it's vast parts of the human. it's like, it's pretty much the entire western world. and i think in some extent, that someone level not surprising. these are western states that themselves have committed huge amounts of abuses in iraq or afghanistan or elsewhere. but also i think, i say this is a form on list of what they see. so story cool, atonement. and what i mean by that is that so many western states that maybe have been criticized decades ago and not doing enough during the 2nd world war when jews obviously were facing and global receipt genocide that it's almost like being manifested itself today. and the 21st century is allowing israel somehow to do what it was. so i said that is someone jewish myself for off to yours. i'm not religious, but i'm supposedly joyce. and that kind of global immunity. so devastating up this for the policy and table, but also it, it's morally disruptive for jewish people. sadly too many of whom still,
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although it is changing still today will defend israel and the metal was.

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