are beginning this morning under a deal reached by extensive us diplomacy, including numerous calls i've made from the oval office to leaders across the region. distress that this will just be the beginning of the process of captives being released. the expectation that us citizens would be freed on friday, proved on founder, but by can make the mention of the palestinian women and children release from is really tough to have with, you know, the devastating palestinian death told that the resultant from the israeli war across the us that i once again protest in chicago, los angeles, and in washington, it was clear to the present state, those would not assuage the anger, felt by, by here to you know, the cost of the gate. i guess the us also because we send our tax dollars there also us funds this genocide, these little piecemeal exchanges are really just for media points to, to keep people home for a little bit. but i think you see those movements focus like people are losing

track of what's important here in the world. we're saying create 3 guys are free palatine in the occupation box and did say he has encouraged to be as ready, prime minister to focus on reducing the number of casualties. and it has been widely reported. but at the very least, the white house is consumed by health of destruction and garza, i'm the palestinian desktop look especially to younger versions of the presidential election approaches. specifically, white house officials are bristling up a nickname for the president being shown to have many of these riley's genocide. jo . she everytime seattle to 0, washington to pro palestinian demonstrations have held riley's across the united states to coincide with black friday and protest against the will in gaza. the purchase took place in several seas from demonstrates his aim to shane people, shopping at stores. they accuse of supporting as well

in other news, a full my us police officer convicted of measuring george floyd black mine withdrawing. he was trying to arrest has been stopped in jail. direction is said to be in serious condition of being attacked by another inmates shaven. was convicted of choking floyd to death 3 years ago. floyd's final words icon breeze became a rallying cry for protests against police brutality. okay, that's it for me, molly, inside or mind that you can keep up to date with all the news on our website found sarah dot com, i'll coverage on the one cost categories here and i'll just share the israel has now imposed a complete seal on god's that's so how do they survive?

if you have no income, how do you live? cost of living rose sharply after the war and ukraine could something like that happen again as a ripple effect of 2000. and one is this us contract is mainly well benefit thing from this. when the price of oil goes up, the cost of almost every thing goes up, counting the cost on out of there. what is our, if not the expression of one's most intimate dreams and desires a testament to the beauty and magical around? while at times, arts can be a means of survival of tools, resistance on these boards, and this is the street the sleep dominique garden the

be done. the throughout history arts has served as a form of resistance and palestinian artists, particularly in tune without concept having used poetry, cartoons and music, to get their perspective beyond the walls, erected around them with israel's war on gauze a menu or applying their talents to demand injustice. freedom and an immediate end to the bloodshed. among them are leila and jelly a graffiti artist currently based in your bid. jordan, i'm a painter. janine you're seeing who's joining us from dearborn michigan. it's so nice to have you both on the show today. thank you for joining it's leila. i would like to start with use that's up to you majored in bio medical physics,

but your super power i would say is actually talking through walls. your murals are pretty exceptional. can i get you to introduce your work to our viewers in, in just a few words? i consider the, the image is with a 1000 words. and this is the main slogan that i am, i think is what you're present, r o. i'm the janine, you also work with very strong image re i'd like to have you do the same as you can introduce our work to our viewers with just a few words. i know your background is actually accounting and finance but, but that is not exactly reflected on on your paintings. yeah. so, um i can, i make sure that a lot of my are is based on storytelling. um and i use a lot of colors and symbols to okay. trail that its um absolutely beautiful. um i'd like to get me again to to tell me

a little bit more because you were born in a refugee camp in jordan. so would you say that that shaped who you are as an artist as well? yes, so much like very strongly. i keep thinking about that question on most of the time . it's like above in this world where you have a completely different universe is a completely different universe that is reflected on your murals. would you say on, on your arts today? am i correct or mentally and then being reflected yes into my act as for example, being so responsible. it's this response. so we do that. i'm closing on my shoulder is what i can't die. what i brought it from the count actually from living there. you feel responsible. why? what people responsible for 1st, like having get sat in today means less you have something so much different than

the rest of the people. you are holding responsible responsibility towards that. second is being the oldest daughter and in a very light small house where my 1st my parents, the less working to afford the living we. we lived in a very heart condition. so that like made me hold more responsibilities done was actually my i should have this response. ringback as a grown up shaped my director chips, my destiny, maybe dave mean, how much of your arts would you say is defined by palestine or by being palestinian? um i would say i would say like maybe 80 percent. i think there's a smelly thing being cost. i mean, is a huge part of my identity, but i, you know, i am also a community member or wherever i am. and i try to portray that as much as possible

as well. i would like to ask you both to stay with us for a little while as we turned to other forms of expression for a bit, because both ours and resistance come in different shapes and forms. take a look at this very powerful piece of artwork by documentary filmmaker and escape border. my and i'm not 6 flips over occupation. the issue with me headed into the head skate, the able to play in relation to get the kid. i shouldn't love you. send me the i gave me the

skateboarding is a positive to overcome the elements of the israeli military occupation. ok to kick flipping over occupation and the author of this work documentary filmmaker, an escaped board up my and how that joins us now. my and thank you very much for being part of this conversation. there was so much about skateboarding that is just fun, but obviously as we see in your work there. so it's quite clear that is also a very powerful tool in terms of personal development in terms of social cohesion, you described as a tool to create, resist in money, fast power. can you talk to us about that? yeah, thank you for having me. i see forwarding is uh, i think most people think the escape boarding, this is a sort of sport or something that people do when they are quite young,

but it actually very much has a culture embedded in it and a practice that is part and parcel to the streets that we occupied and i think part of that definition is to understand this reset. we skateboard in into the resist the powers and structures that those streets uh, also project. and part of that is to empower a small community of people who are artists basically. and what i like to call interpretive dance or is of the street. and by definition that is one that resists the powers that be it's also about inhabiting the streets as well. right, so this is being, they're becoming more visible. i suppose you're palestinian american, you were raised in the united states from the age of 2. you went back to the west

banking in 2014. if i'm not mistaken, i'm please do correct me if i'm wrong. but what do you remember from those very 1st days of being back when palestine was no longer an idea in your head, but was actually streets and, and people yeah. so i went for austin to be what was this supposed to be an arabic class at bid state university. and in that same village i ended up stumbling upon skateboarders. and for me, it was really sick shifting in that this, like i said, this culture of this, this community that i sort of grew up with in the us to have found it on happen chance basically in a, in a small village in university town in the west bank opened up my eyes to something much bigger. i think it connected me to palestine sort of immediately in a way that story is food folktales from my parents and,

and literature from, from books was sort of unable to. and do you documented that trip put in a project called landing? was that also an attempt to, i don't know, show the world that being palestinian means a whole bunch of things. i started by doing the video, documented called kits of so documentation and part of that project has not transitioned into a long term for the documentary project, which i want to be enough. i, i, i know how to use a camera because of skateboarding, part of part of skate, culture is to photographs, and to document tricks and the different spaces that people are skateboarding in. and i had started sort of just with that intention and over the years has built up sort of enough of an archive to want to share to the world. a part of it is to do just that,

to show that skateboarding impala sign is part and parcel to our unwavering relationship to our land. and a very important part of youth resistance. even if it's just within a small number of policy, you need skateboarders. that in and of itself is a testament to our pulse of freedom. a small number of policy is for now, because according to the voices in your don't, you've been through the all one more people to join them. i want to bring layla engineering back into the conversation and ask the 3 of you now. um, how difficult have the last few weeks been for you with the war on gaza? um, i mean, do you have family in cause i do have friends there. how personal has this for been, janine if i can start with you? yeah, so i am from the list um, most of my family lives in nablus. so i don't think i need to have relatives in

jose to be directly impacted by what's going on. i think as palestinians, we are all connected despite. you know, what are colonizers put borders on? and so i consider, you know, policy knows that to be, you know, my family and it's been extremely difficult on emotionally physically it can to help with that time means. but i'm also very inspired by the people who lives in the resilience. and honestly, they have them keeping me going. name a how, how about you? how has it been for you? oh it's, it's been really shocking so hard. but it was expected like as, as getting bones almost stating that this is not to new, but it is like, got more condense this time. i do have friends there and ask them that's what the situation is. something like we are very familiar to, to it because we have related to,

we're leaving there before. so i plus very hard even to, to active, to become an active artist after watching all those, these horrible and perfect images that's coming from there. at the same time, age is a duty for me, for example, for being a police student myself. do this to the world to try to deliver it to, to be a voice for those who are voiceless for our case. so it's, it's be like a very hard journey to go through it. so this moment actually, because we still didn't have been that you still haven't been able to contact the people to my and how about you have you have you been watching everything very closely and, and, and also feeling quite powerless, i guess. yeah. so i was in the occupying westbank for most of october, and i, i think even from home and no way you're still watching as if from a far. and it's unfortunate because it's not only heartbreaking,

and the scenes of ongoing genocide in your face being debilitating. but at the same time, like you said, it inevitably becomes personal because at the end of the day, palestinians are all connected, i think is really fragment station tries to separate us. but we're all connected to the palestine as it is. and as it was, and for example, i as a documented photographer, have loads of friends and dogs of that. i don't actually know in person, but i've been connected for multiple years and consider them close. and then many of my real friends, one of which was nice and us who was fairly killed by his earlier strikes in october. um, not documenting or not sort of as a journalist, even though he is one but in his house trying to help somebody else. and i think

this is testament that no matter how far away you are from dodge of the, the impact of this, the destructive, ongoing, an organization of our people is something that will be felt no matter where we are . janine elaina mentioned there the, the difficulty and how that has affected her for work. do you feel the same? do you feel as though it has paralyzed your creativity somehow or, or i don't know, maybe the other way around. you feel more inspire to document this moment. i do feel a lot more inspired, i think because i have a duty here in the diaspora to speak out for folks. i've also been a really busy trying to organize around making sure that a ceasefire does happen. and kind of center the demands of those in the headset because of the, you know, the, i am still like privilege and the sense that i'm not being bombarded. mm hm. i, i,

i'm very touched that you, you are all talking about this, this idea of being the voice for authors, right? because there are voices in cause a right now being silenced, as you mentioned, like for example, that of poets and novelist. he bought a bu nazzo, whose last post on x actually red clauses. night is dark apart from the glue of rockets quiet apart from the sound of almost terrifying apart from the comfort of prayer black apart from the light of the monstrous good night garza or that was he but so good. a painter who defined her work as a message to the outside world. both these women were killed alongside their children and is really bombardments. i mean, like you mentioned this that the difficulty but also the responsibility of carrying on of pushing your work and being the voice for these people. it's something we must do, like sure you get into our lives in a situation where it's very,

very shocked to for to, to it's happening. you're expecting it, but it didn't expect that to be that's uh, that's shuttling for the time. but then these images to become something in our hired some minds and then become an artwork swear to be is shared to the world until think and it you might use this for you, perfect period. this time janine i, i know that your work or part of an exhibit of yours was removed from the royal ontario museum. can you tell us about why that was and, and what was your reaction? yeah, so um i was, i had uh, i was commissioned by the field museum in chicago to uh make it make a piece of art about the practice of muslim green burials. and in the art i thought

it was really important. also convey how policies don't even have that privilege often to practice assignment green burials. so you know, um and it's not. we clean our between the dead bodies, the wrap them, we make fire for them in palestine. often our martyrs bodies are held hostages by design. this entity and they are not given, you know, to their families, to bury and in practice, our secret traditions, assorted, convey that in a small part of the painting and also think about those. and now how there are so many folks being bombarded and there's no time to practice. those traditions is also, you know, kind of what i was trying to convey not painting. and this exhibit is a traveling exhibit and it went to anterior and toronto and canada, me and the other contributors went to canada to sierra displays. and before we had, when we were just completely started, by the way, the rom,

the real ontario museum was responding to us. they had attempted to censor our art and they wanted our consent to move where it's like palestine and desirable um, even implying that the messiah is like an issue. they want to, to edit that. they also want to censor my teaching in the lower the section that can said of the 1st time was that the 1st time they came across such a, such an attempt to sense through your work. not really, but it was the 1st time that it was like, usually i get my art rejected or i'm told that it's too political and that's pretty much it because this is a traveling exhibit and they have already seen the material and accepted it is felt more violent the way that they were trying to, you know how they accepted it and not their time to sponsor it. so when i went to the museum and we were expecting to see our stuff in display, but the,

the stuff took us to the side and showed us some of the edits that they were trying to make. they completely cropped off my art, which was very, you know, does the consent to say the least, the suspects violating they refused to meet with us. and the kind of like threatened us, you're either going to accept these changes by like in 45 minutes or we're going to pull your displays. they also said that i think we're going to pull our displays and they have to pull the jewish display like in principle. and obviously we're not going to accept those terms, some of the contributors, hilda riley outside the museum. and me and my colleague send me to her son, they to sit in overnight at the museum until they created display my r as is and then and they and they brought your work backs a. it's again, well done for, for, for fighting the good fight to i want to talk to you guys about the future as we're

approaching the end of the show. um, now how do you see the future of your work and how inter linked to your think that future is with a future of your people? because i have been raised in the account. so i the police didn't, i didn't to the as a refer for it. it's has been also far inside the account. if i didn't like reinforce, decided to do for the new generations. i would see that i have found this is what i'm doing in my artworks. basically it's the highlights mattress, the say to highlight their existence because we support this. i'm really the new generations to give them believing of these jobs because they are being disconnected. a little bit, we are the last generation for one task for orders, restaurants actually this. so it's the new generation are in danger of

forgetting their on forgetting their origins. why and what about you? we talked about skateboarding being fun, how, how important is joy right now? and in the years and decades to come as a form of resistance and resilience, it's incredibly important. i don't want to be not even though and i'll be frank. i haven't touched my skateboard since october 6. that's telling i think um skateboarding is a tool and one that can cos joy and disrupts a headspace of violence, but i think get a moment like now. so if violence is everything around you when in your imagination, sometimes it's hard to get around. that isn't to say that this holds forever and when and, and when say, pointing does become sort of top of mind again for me in other palestinian skaters,

i know the immense power that it holds. um, as we we bill it taishan and then also as this medium to freedom i think our engagement with the land and space physically writing our skateboards in a place like palestine hold this on wavering relationship that i think is often times beyond words and gets translated in our creative spaces, it gets correct. translated in our communities, it gets translated in how and where we show up for one another. and this beautiful part of skateboarding is something that palestinian skaters also manifest together, which i know is in, during the i, i want to give you the 3 of you, a chance for a final thoughts here and, and maybe if it's not asking too much, i'd like you to send a message if you have a message. i don't know if it's to the world through your friends and family in

calls or in palestine. any message that you might have right now in just a few words mine. i would like to start with you. i want to think everybody around the world who is showing up for palestine. i think as much as we are surrounded by the politics of death and violence. i've never in my life seen so much international, an intersection of the deputy with our cause and one that i hope we can also reflect back when it's needed because i believe that our freedom is tied to so many others. and i hope that one day we will all be free. oh janine, in joseph, your words, your message as much as i am increasing in mourning for all those the home in for the lice knows that i have been taken away from us. and i also am, i'm so proud of my people's resilience during these times. and you know,

design is n t things that were just numbers, but i, i value each each life and i think about the people it was a 3 day. and i hope that we can continue standing up for the folks in less than centering their demands. and doing so, lena, your thoughts? i just need to give you a few weren't in college more because i felt them feel a bit too cold. or simply because we have less contact, for example, to the north. and so people are getting back to their normal lives, like nothing has happened. but no, i need to be able to keep on resisting, and they're on form of resistance to keep their voices off. our voice as those really matters because it's big concerns on being shut everywhere by the social media. we are talking about their propaganda now, so we need to keep our existing id. i'm very thankful for your voice is here today . thank you very much and i would also like to take a moment to think a number of ours has to be contacted and who wants it to be part of this episode

from occupied east jerusalem and the occupied westbank, but who felt like they could not be part of this conversation and speak about their arts for fears of being reprimanded or worse. finally, i also want to thank you for watching. if you have a comment about our show, you can talk to us on social media. and if you have a, a conversation or a topic that you like to see on the show, we're always open to your suggestions. you can use the hash tag or the handle a jury stream, and we'll look into it. take care. and i'll see you soon. i or as the war on gaza escalate to 0 is correspondence request. last night was a noise from the house complete blackouts fits all. situations are very, very wave here you do have the air strikes in the area as well. troops now are trying to push forward deep into the gods trick. 11 soldiers have been confirmed as

killed during that time devalue were considered to be one of the most densely populated refugee camps in this neighborhood has been completely destroyed. stay with us to the latest developments on oh, just the era officer, oppression for generations. there comes a time to fight for freedom and survival. as one of the highest ranking members of an indigenous civil defense force to columbia and grandmother, fiercely protective community and the world's largest cocaine for reducing regions then, or that a witness documentary on a jersey that there is no channel that covers world views like we do the scale of this camp is like nothing you've ever asked us to help, but we want to know how does these things affect people?

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