nancy, our jury is incomplete. we find it comforting because of what is happening in guys, not only those who have been killed and the conditions that they are living in the state. also, we hope that we will be free one day. we have also many prisoners in prison. in addition to my son, there is my brother in law and my nephew. they were arrested aligned with my son. they were a charged with the or they were accused in the same charges. they have been accused of being part of a terrorist. so for some time. but we will accuse our prisoners as being a terrorist, as you know. so they always do this and say this can shop as well as templates. i mean, if nothing at all,

but the number of we want to stay on the spot united, we want to remain patient stop. ok. we have to spend quite much other side and we should not be separated and system. mm hm. i know i have a nephew who is marked here and we did not receive the father yet. he died in oklahoma. done. he's an officer between a lot. he never updated operation against about how much did we don't know if it was an accident or the is right. these talk about the service took time and he was just close to a check point and there was an explosion i got to head relative has been accused of is committing an attack. but she says, we're not sure if it was a car accident or an attack. you know, in certain situations the only narrative we can get to these really narrative. we

see them shooting at someone. and then they say, you know what, they committed then attacked. but for protestant infirmities, it's hard for them to verify to know what really happened. and we've seen incidents like i said, all of these, the prisoner who has been released yesterday from occupied the east jerusalem. she had a problem in her car when these really forces shot that's her and they accused her of committing attacks. so this is part some parts. so what do we talk about these activities, these prisoners, their stories are not, you know, they're, they're not separated from it. because of the chief of living under israel's military occupation. need abraham lot for us and romano, thanks need. and just to bring our views up to date with the live pictures on your screen at the moment, to crowds in ramallah, awaiting the arrival of 13 on palestinian prisoners released from off of prison. the trench of releases during this 4 day cease fire. off to 13

is ready. the captives were released earlier from gaza. expect and seems there in ramallah. it is just past 1900 g m t 9 pm in gaza. if you're just joining us, a reminder of all the moving parts in this story. the 3rd exchange, as i said, of captives for prisoners between israel and homos has been completed. day 3 of the seas. 513 is ready. captives have been handed over by a mouse to the red cross in a now, in israel, that's according to the army. and these exclusive pictures show the hand of in gaza city in the north of the street. i think those are the pictures you'll see, and the small books there, which has been devastated by the war a mazda is also released, 3 tie citizens, and one due, russian is ready. citizen, the red cross has confirmed that they will be transferred out of casa as well. we

can go back to nita now need to abraham the in ramadi or in the occupied westbank for us a need to a new our now bring our view is up to date with what is going on. the people you've been speaking to, the prisoners on the list of those released this evening. what more can you tell us? let me, let me just try one thing. so there is a free prisoner here. i've asked him if he wants to talk to us, but he said that he doesn't want to speak on time at all. he's speeding is really retaliation. so i just asked if he is willing to talk off camera. why do we put the picture somewhere else? let me just see if he is ready to talk. i have a little bit to call the yeah, people are are worried, you know,

the is right. new forces have been threatening palestinian prisoners. okay. he's, he's, he's not comfortable talking. you know, this also is part of the story. people the worst case to save their stories of what happened to them because he could be at us to really i knew minutes. yeah. okay. that's not a good thing about speaking to the media. it's not showing his face, he is going to talk, but we're not going to show his face. excuse me, not on the tell us how you were interested. what were the conditions and how, how was your life in prison? life in prison is very bad. it's actually a tragedy issue. busy in fact, there is no main ones. there is oppression. it means that things change. and yes, since the 1st day of the war, everything has changed. we have no clothes, no meals, no fluid. did you want any voices in the other cells?

yes. the week it is here is that there were some here guys use also people do to after. so it was a very tragic situation. how do you feel now that you have been a release and why are you scared to speak with us? i want to explain to people why you feel hesitated, where are you threatening? yes, we have been threatened not to talk before anything before being released actually that they can to punish us and they can also hurt our family message. this is again hard and parts of the city in prison. the experience on there is there is really and is there any custody? we have here at the squared way and we are seeing a city of protesting in the squid on the ways for the free for

the 1st day. and we talked to some, uh, some one person who has been describing the situation in prison as various tragic as various properties are still anticipating underway. more and more of the funds to make it here. need to let me ask you either boxed or that noise and color where you are standing, how things have gone on sunday night with this release compared to what happened on saturday night when we spoke on saturday night, you came under to a gas far uh there was considerable doubt about who was going to be released so cold manipulation of the prisoner lists. on friday night we saw prisoners big released, one of whom had only a month left on his sentence. what have you been able to deduce about the list on sunday night? and has it been a smooth process?

it's been a little bit of process in terms of that in the box at the scene that we've seen yesterday with the p. it guy has the repeats itself again in front of the welfare to present. we have happened during notice who have been hit, some of our team members who have been outside the prison has been hit by tier, get another turn. it is kind of thing. and during that, as has been hit, the bite of the quote is pointed to that. hi. these were the forces that follow those kind of sent in, in between, you know, just that because you're not seeing me that it doesn't mean that those that did not happen to other to jordan. it is an a basically to prevent them from covering the fixture. and from showing uh, the buses, again it's, it's perceived as a victory moments about us. and you say that these are all with troy. everything in its way to approve and that's not the image from happening. now, we are,

you know, since the list have came down to 5 pm, a little cold time, it's really doesn't give a lot of time for palestinians to move from other cities as some parents have made it. as you heard that there was a. a palestinian father, who told us that he was told by these radio officers who called him that he needs to come only one person from the family needs to come know, celebrations are allowed. again, it's a sensitive moment with kind of sydney, as are not to do. they don't want to show that they're celebrating for sake because they remember and respect the situation that is happening in the b. c. use the gaza strip, but that gives venture and it is really little time to investigate them. to find out what has been happening to it, i mean the stories, all of those young, the thing is, but we know, and as we've been speaking to families, they're young children, they're young, a teenage boys,

all of those boys who have made it to the list that is run popular as at the beginning of the deal that are expected to be at least $150.00 of them are expected to be reduced as part of the deal. all of those young boys are under 19 years old that then we are talking about if families of sorry with the female prisoners, i have another father with me. we tried to speak to him earlier. i must move. so after, excuse me, j of the son of a news. let's start with the amount of defense, all law joe law and somehow i need her. that's with my view of getting, you know, so we want that all the presence will be freed from our prisoners and ours and my family member has been sentenced to 3 years. he spent or served one year and

a half of it. the last time i saw him was 5 months ago. he was all joe, but i think that since october 7th, we were not able to visit them or visit our prisoners. we do not have any information or updates from him until we knew that he has been released as part of the deal. and also for a year and a half, maybe you would not be able to contact or to communicate with him. yes, we were very stressed out. we were concerned all the time. we don't know what is happening it to our son and in the inside the pricing. so there was, there was no communication, no visits, everything was thought about when do you think about it? so it's a real lives or notice about those young teenagers who are,

who go to prison. do you think this will impact their life? yes. as teenagers, it's very difficult and tough on them. they can not survive the torture sometimes. but thank god for everything and gone to protect them and pick them strength. do you want to celebrate the release of your son? no, i think that we will not celebrate why we just want to know because we have or originally spoke about that. so just tell us what are you going to do now that you will when, when you will see him, i will have to have this its, it's my boss debora, my favorite show i want to i can't wait to see him and i'm very heart broken. that's my son to spend so much time in prison. this is not the 1st time he was sentenced. so he was sentenced a one year and a half. he spent another one year and a half in prison,

and now he's being released. it was his 2nd degree is not the 1st one. so that shows you that some of those prisoners are subject to re arrest by these radio needed with leaving that with you for the moment, unreturned to you in due course. and from the testimony of expects and families in ramallah, let's go to tell a v, the other side of a story where families crowds, relatives, friends, are of course, waiting for news of the arrival of the is ready, captives that have been released on this the, the day of the of the cease fire us on a fire at is standing by is of a for us in tennessee for can you tell us about the progress of those is really captives who we know have been released in gaza handed over to the international committee of the red cross. what more can you tell us a well between concerns at all. uh,

17 cap says have been a $100.00 and now and they all in israel, that includes the, the team is ready. citizens plus 3 tie nationals as well as a jewel national. uh is really russian citizen that he's male and in his twenty's. now, what was interesting, in terms of the release that we saw, or what stage 3 of this uh, sci fi, is that unlike the last couple of days where they went via the roof, off crossing that borders with egypt, this time they were split taught. so you have the teen is riley citizens up. uh, well ro, side of, uh, uh, israel, not through rough office was through a different uh, crossings. and uh, in fact, they were both over from central gauze. uh and then you have uh, the 3 time nationals plus this, russell russian citizen. they were brought through the roof uh crossing. and that was the interesting development today because it shows that every single day of the

ceasefire, its fluids, different circumstances. yesterday that was a big delay of a different, says as to what say defined was sticking to the seas 5 times and conditions. and then you had today a different uh way of bringing them back in to israel. not in terms of those. the scene is ready, caps is one of them, it seems isn't really critical. life threatening condition right now. she's an 84 year old woman and she was headed coats that actually it's one of the hospitals in those uh, southern towns bordering with garza. we've also been hearing it seems in the last few minutes from the grandfather of a 4 year old abigail, she's still a citizen, is riley america, and she's the one that so us president joe biden was referring to in an earlier a statement where he said, obviously this is uh, welcoming news of full especially those that have american citizenship that have

been house compensated bots. what the grandfather was saying is that it's a very difficult time because of course, even though it's some good news for them that this 4 year old just being brought back. but she is actually now and often both parents were killed in that salt. sorry about 7 attacks, so now she's an open and he said that he finds very much find find so us present, joe biden. he also, it seems like cast off old mediation and for allowing this to happen and said that because of this, even though they expected her name to be on the list on day one, they were then disappointed. but she wasn't. they waited, expecting it to be on day 2. again, she wasn't, and of course it was a mass of relief for them today that she was on that list any citing to meet the lights, has any said, but this to him shows that this is very much possible now. that's all of them can be returned. and this, all of this is happening as a will cabinet meeting is taking place just behind me here. and now what's as the

ministry of defense fail and now it seems to, okay, i'm discussing the how my statements from earlier saying that they are looking to extend that full days. this file. and now it seems that the will cabinet is deliberating on this something, but us present job item refers to earlier. it seems that it's heading all of this in the same direction. so all right, thank you for that in tel aviv. so we can go now to see how i'm us representative of us on the how and um, who is on the phone for us live from a route a solid home done. president biden spoke earlier. he is encouraging an extension of this for date cease fire in order to allow the release of more captives. we understand there are discussions on going by prime minister netanyahu and his will cabinet quite possibly in order to achieve the same. what is, how moss is view on that one. thank you for having me. in fact,

we have ordered the press release a few hours ago saying that we are looking after finding some of the people and business that we don't know where that is or the market. because as everyone knows how much does not have civilians, they would have kept advice from others. so we are looking for to have more of them if they had with model for them. and if that was happening, it would be a good chance to extend the ceasefire because we have offered from the number ones that we are ready. if something by month, i guess, goods or stop to look after those, the photos and send them home back. but here i have a very specific comment, but isn't by then has the way to, to make and then for the is really offensive attack against good stuff. he has the power to do that. and talking about extending the seats far out as not the

solution. the solution is to make a stop for the any attack against goods. and to force is that i am problem and, and i'm not sure it resolutions because then to the scene and course what is home us prepared to put on the table in return for anything like that to for a company. that is why it is attacked. it is because that when we don't need, as for the students to go to anything on the test, but we are the nation on the commission and we believe it's our let me get my time to desist. thank you. patients and then the actual community, mainly the united states. i've supposed to have the stain, and she's that much on board to be anybody. it's a tool stablish doing their own independence, southern states, and then the put a scene and then she want to decide what would happen next. if that happened,

i think that would be a chance to create more peaceful region and or so given you are effectively asking for peace. in order for israel to come to the table, they will require a mouse to moderate dates, view about these real existence. for instance, how i'm asked me, why do i need to bring something to the table in return as well? i think it is how good they are supposed to learn the lesson. in the last 60 days you'll come defeat the purpose tina nation nation. you may, can hundreds, you'll make cuz thousands of spanish channels, but you will not defeat the philistine and mission. what has happened today. we tend over those captives from the middle of the, the where, where there's a tax out there. that means that you are still available and standing is this thing that to patient. so what are the options?

either they have to continue cut into the proceedings and the 15 and sort of continue. there is a stance all day. what does this hi to me come in for that corporation? i think the 2nd option would be for the best of everyone. as everyone have noticed in the last 2 days, we are positive towards the positive actions. but i can't give anything, don't guarantee you, have just talked being positive as an a q by a, as a state, supporting about you by a sending with those to kinda put a cnn's. if you did that, if you had a positive as to, you'll understand that the students would be more, was it? okay, let's focus for the moment then in more so to granular detail on what is in front of us and what we can deal with in the coming days. the possible extension of this to cease 5. we know that the terms of the cease fire, at least offered by as well, whether it could be extended by one day for every additional 10 captives released.

would you seek to change the terms of that the, when you'd be asking for more than the 123 quote to one captive for 3 palestinian prisoners agreed up to now one. everyone knows that our side we have reserved on the time and for the faded our commitments. if we want to continue doing this on the same basis, we will not talk about any changes. but if there was a change in the situation on the ground, that means we talk about some different aspect. so if, if we want to continue, we would keep doing that on the same basis. so to be clear, how moss is willing to extend this cease fire on the basis? agreed. sandy's really captives in return for safety products to the prisoners. a one to sir, you go take exec,

i'll some of them done. let me ask you about the events that occurred on sunday night. the release of is really captives in gaza. why did come off change the plan is it has been over the last 2 days in which captives have been released to the i see i see at the roof of border crossing and taking it to egypt. why did you lose the hand of a point to a location in central garza? well, it depends on the rent. so for those people we, i like moving them to a certain point and then uh, bringing them to the i c r c. we are sending them in the same place where they off, it shows how that existence is taken was, is handling the situation the best way that anyone can image and often 50 days of destructive or i guess because we are still, as i've said on the ground who do i want to jump as it's supposed to be done? and maybe next time to be in some different place? who knows?

that one who will decide that is the leadership of cosigning good. what is on us doing to facilitate access for the i c. c, 2 captives in gaza when we are doing our best and they can, they can say that they are successful, like they have expressed that. and we are dealing in a positive way with them. they know that how much all the time have respected its, its own water, and we have done the job and the best way. everyone watches the images of those captives when they weigh out of the sang sang tool for the people who are delivering them to the t i. c y a and vice versa for that. but a stain as is a bit of into them even to show that happiness of having the funds back at 24 hours ago. the i see, i see you to be filed to 0. here in the studio in doha said,

they had not yet been granted access to remaining captives in gaza. they certainly weren't satisfied with arrangements thus far. well, we'll have to differentiate between 2 things. between that they want more people. what do they have? they can talk about this, but this is supposed to be according to what you have agreed on through the end of the items. and if they was, that's fine with what the process it says, i think they comp claim anyone about from how my side about that process. it says it has been done in the best way that anyone can do on the bill of circumstances and conditions. okay, well some of them done spokesman from us on the phone from a route. thank you for your time. i to and let's move now to occupied east jerusalem. let him run con is standing by for us and iran,

you will have been listening in the to that interview. i'm us making clear they are willing to extend the seats far beyond the full days. agreed on the basis. agreed without changing the terms agreed. what can you tell us about talk so they did. they underway now behind the scenes, political discussions will cabinets promised and this and yahoo presumably on this very issue. so that's why the war cabinet is actually meeting as we are now speaking. and that will be listening to the words of a sort of in on apps that's on the happening. they'll be listening to what a mouse has been, say over the last few days and deciding whether they want to continue this on. they have been positive words coming out from prime minister. benjamin netanyahu or other also have been posted, was coming from president joe biden to you as president who's i see said he would like to see the ceasefire extended. so that seems to be

a groundswell. all the policies seem to be thinking about at extension 2. this is why, but it is a very delicate one, but as well as e for making sure that it's reminding people that it is still at will in goes a prime minister. benjamin netanyahu himself went to gaza. that's the 1st time and is ready. prime is, has been to goals. and since that the just engagement in 2005, it was very much a photo opportunity. and opportunity for the problem is the show that he is a toughly, that he's a wartime leader. he was that surrounded by his very soul, just he's wearing administered green flag jacket and a military green helmet. now. so typically what he said is everything that we've been hearing him say, uh since uh, the events of all i'm talking about. but suddenly there was nothing new in what he was said, but it was all about location. location location is all about him being in garza and then reminding people that they were willing to continue this war. even if this

is why i came to an end, or if indeed it was extended. we also had from daniel who guard the is ready on the spikes. one be also said that if presence of, if people are still being released and kept is also being released, they would be willing to look at this. but they will also be willing to start the war at a time of the choosing. to go back, disconnect, you've got these pictures or these really tv right now. people waiting, he's waiting flag. well coming back these captives. but you've also got the security political, military and intelligence establishments, making sure that they are reminding people that they are in control, and they can go back to war any time that they choose. thanks it. running around con, there are no, could bodies, jerusalem. a short while ago us president joe biden said the spot daily structured so that it can be extended and reworked urgently, urgently to take advantage of the pause to search 8 and the gaza. we've moved

approximately $200.00 a trucks in regards to each day loaded with food, washer medicine, fuel, and cooking gas more is needed, but this deal is delivering life saving results. critically need today is going in, hostages are coming out of this to a structured so that it can be extended to keep building on these results. that's my goal, that's our goal. to keep this pause going beyond tomorrow so that we can continue to see more hostages. come on and search more humanitarian relief in the end of those, and who in needing garza? well, let's go to mike, how to in washington dc to talk about those comments by president biden. mike uh, the president, keen to extend the cx 5, we understand there's been a conversation, a phone conversation to be fair. i don't know whether this actually happened or is still in the works, but a phone call between present and 5 and prime minister netanyahu. to what extent do

we expect the president biden is putting pressure on mister? nothing yahoo! to extend as well earlier. his national security advisor gave an interview and that is quite revealing because the national security advisor jake sullivan. when asked the question about extending the cx 5, said that the ball is in how much this quote. now he said that israel had given the commitment that it promised that by the deal and provided another 10 captives each day. israel would extend the c swipe by end of the day. so as far as the national security adviser was concerned, it's a done deal because we have heard from, from us now saying that they are willing to do that. so it's been, yes, israel says it's willing to ground the extra day. so you would have an extension to cease 5, but president biden didn't say that directly in his news conference. he said it's something that's being worked towards and perhaps has been coal with the benjamin netanyahu by b one to bring pressure to bear on nets and yahoo to stand by that deal which his

government, according to the national security adviser, has already committed to. so it's a fluid situation complex in many ways, but that does appear to be on all sides, the desire to get the sci fi extended for whatever reason that might be not nice. the fact that you have minded terry and supplies can continue to flow into gaza, and this is a critical position as well. while the captives are coming out, it's very important to recognize the need and the necessity of humanitarian supplies going into gaza during this window in the conflict. ok, just abroad and things that moves in congress as well potentially mike, to make a to is ro, conditional on on acceptance of a 2 state solution to tell us more about the debate that's going on there as well. this has been something that has been brought up every now and then even

before this conflict increased, but it is got maybe a little bit more traction since the beginning of this latest round of conflict. that is, will be at a small group within congress who have been discussing this. most of them. progressive democrats from president biden's potty. then you've had the very way, the voice of the voice of the send it to from vermont. the nissan does actually stating it specifically saying that age should be conditioned on israel meeting certain standards set by the united states, which is giving us that aid among the standards commitment to a to the 2 state solution. the withdrawal forces from guns a, a commitment to find the set of the violence on the west bank on the west bank, and so a whole lot of another on conditions. now, president biden was asked about this a couple of days ago. specifically about the nissan to statements. he said it's a worthwhile thought, but when questioned about it today, his national security adviser said yes, president biden said it's

a worthwhile thought. at the same time, he said that what he's been doing is clearly working. the implication that there's no need to change the way in which the diplomacy is happening with i didn't conditions to it at this particular stage because what president biden is doing in the eyes visit ministration is working. so you do have a slight, complicated fact on this as well, but if i can just at one point, president biden is going to us congress for another $14000000000.00 in aid to israel. now that's in addition to the $3600000000.00 that is paid each year. the sheer size of that some may, will consume traits up mines in congress. and actually lead to a lot of debate about whether or not condition should be attached, particularly when the sun is so vast. my kind of live for us in washington dc. thanks for the update. mike. a quick reminder that you are looking at live shots on your screen now from romano. in the occupied westbank,

a crowd gathered to welcome the 39 palestinian prisoners have been released from off of prison on sunday nights in the said sequenced release of prisoners. and these rated captives on this, the 3rd day of the cx, 513 is riley captives have been released from gaza. they are in the hands of the international committee of the red cross heading to tel aviv searching on palestinian prisoners. heading to grandma a tonic, a zoom, easy on eunice for us now tuck, what more do we know about the release that took place earlier in the north in gaza city that didn't follow the pattern of previous days happening in rough instead happening in the north. i put the question to a some, i'm down the how mosse he didn't give us

a particularly enlightening answer as to why they had changed the location. can you generally yes, as we close today to see today earlier that a post parts of the conflict are talking about to mass. and israel was exchanging messages since the beginning of this day as it's the 3rd phase of swiping prisoners between both sides today. elliott, but these really prime minister benjamin it's in yeah, a be it in different photos and videos that he is trying to support is that troops on the ground to inside the gaza strip, which considered to be a play. took message. that's the is by the troops will still operate them on the ground and they have the full backup from the. busy a these very political ends even minute 3 lead a shift from their solid dependents to being fine. since the day they decided to change the routine of a. busy delivering and even releasing costs, it is this time they choose the center and the,

the hot beating area of gauze as to what you consider to be the central area of the bottles that went from us. and the is where the occupation forces they have been also a bead. we're reading the full military uniforms and even they are surrounded by people and the military vehicles that old also to send a message to the other side that they are also having a control on the ground. and they are conducting variations on behalf of kind of close the communication between old sectors in the church right now. these kind of messages could be delivered from between both sides and to, to show for the world that they have to apply. and regarding what's happening on the ground from this site today, how much movement has confirmed that they are seeking to extend the duration of the uh, the supply. busy off to the end of the 4 day period, as they are also would release more numbers of hostages from the pots as, as the east belt, which shows its commitment in terms of releasing palestinian continues from the

it's been from the jails in the occupied was thanks okay, tonic, we'll talk to you later, buddy. thanks for now. we can get some analysis from one shot. obviously are senior political analyst who is with me in the studio, not one. i hope you will this thing into the interview. we did a short while ago with that. how boss specs person some how i'm done, making it clear unequivocally that how moss is willing to extend this deal. under the agreed initial terms, they're not going to up the empty. they're not asking for anything. in addition, one is really captive to 3 palestinian prisoners up to now us and these really officials have been saying, look, the voters in almost as quote, this is how my stealing the initiative, isn't it? yeah, but i mean, i think the american is ready statements are kind of a big it was to me because how much has been from the very beginning from the,

from, from october 8, 9 ship and saying that i have more than happy to release the civilian captives the hostages that they have because there was like more of a burden than the, an asset to them with the, with a dozens of reserve soldiers that they have. they can get anything they want. they don't need the civically and captives. so it was clear on the very beginning they don't even know need for a war if they want to get the civil and kept us out with a war, they couldn't get the civilians and certainly they wouldn't be able to get the soldiers out. and so how much is consistent in that way? and that's not to its defense. this is just to explain a simple fact that they were from the very beginning, one thing to release them. these really said no, no, no what was do with by war. one of the system, they failed to get it by war and now they're trying to get it by diplomacy show, at least that is what we've been talking before about the public relations getting going on here. it's hugely important. the eyes of the world are on both sides. you

know, we see these huge shows of power today in gaza. you go to the one hand, nothing. yeah. first time since 2005. and it's really prime minister in full body on the, with his soldiers in gaza, a show of power. on the other hand, you've got this release of these rating captives in the center of the gaza strip. that was supposed to be conquered by israel. there was nothing discreet in those pictures. huge crowds on the street clattering spotlights. absolutely no attempts to hide what was going on. very deliberate, i'm sure. and now i'm us getting ahead of the game here by offering to extra extent is pretty kindly strategy. this is what i'm have, so that's, that's sort of the and i agree with your objects, the positioning of both uh to the cameras. how much wanted to on the line as a competitor between itself and is red in guys and want to make sure that everyone understands it. still,

i'm controlling guys and it's against the maneuver and guys of so it could also be technical in the sense that the captors could have been close that the guys assisted them. they are in the south and so on, so forth. but that's not the game. but also on the other hand, the video is trying to show himself to be, you know, the worst time leader who is also raising the flag in the midst of guys a, the tournament to continue with the war until the end seat. uh, how much some guys i'm by the way that's kind of changing this whole. the seat guys are the feet evil. right into making sure how much is no longer controlled and garza. but yes, there's a 2nd juxtaposition today for the cameras. for the public opinion, the palestinian and israeli public opinion that both parties are state test and the plans and this interest interesting gauntlet laid down for president bite and very clear he wanted to make that point to some i'm done. if you want peace, the americans have gone a step up. what's the president by the made this whole appearance today,

for the simple message. aside from all the others for saying that we urgently want 8 to come in to guys and we thought that the want this poses to be extended. so i think the message probably is heard loud and clear and is right. you see if there's something quite against speaking of just the positioning, right. and there's another, see it that objects, the positioning of us between the video and by then both men. i have the political carriers under scrutiny. i didn't trouble right by them as we're done on the phone and nothing else with donald, the full, the bite is where the appointment. how long does that is? is because of what's happening in is our bus are the same thing for the thing though, is this, know how big it off i'm clearly by then wants to sort of start this thing to himself a bit from the truck he got himself into by boxing himself, right behind that the now so close that he couldn't even now distance himself was

simple questions or issues like the photos. and i'm going to have to interrupt you with good live pictures. now all of those palestinian prisoners, arriving in ramada, big crowds to celebrate $33.00 flags signifying support for hamas. the along the way to this, of course, as the day of similar celebrations, need to abraham. is that watching tri state? i'm not sure if he could pick up the call between now is she able to needed? can you hear me the,

[000:00:00;00] to the people coming in from the street behind the, uh, carrier and the other tenants in, you know, this is this, the, that palestinians, the world that the,

the levels come around the husband wants to see that we've seen in the 1st body, we've seen families, they take the prisoners carrying them marching, but still, you know, despite the, all of the challenges that probably will not buy these really expensive use of the to use gas. we, i'm in the, in the past 3 days. the, as soon as we have who has been detained is already here. what has been injured and his, the bar code, it's the buddhist palestinians on the whole thing, this reception for the young man, i got the, the, the other prisoners are coming. look at this one, the whole thing as far as off the talking to members of his family. you know, we've been sleeping to someone a little while ago and he said that because the list came later it today came at the, at the,

the lead time for the properties. some of them could not make it to me all the way from do you need the work of the occupied to us back? we know that the roads have been very risky and dangerous for palestinians when we talk about the attacks against them. as one of these readiness of the check points that are being causing promising is there a time. so the property of a lot of those prisoners had said, you know what, we're not going to comment. they called to see who is the law, to make sure that they take care of the feed prisoner, and then bring them home in the day lights in the morning to kind of keep them safe . we know that this match has to be this in the occupied to us, but another batch as part of the $139.00 has made it too occupied. it needs to reset them, had again, the message for processing and families wants to be your from be is ready for this

. that there need not to be any set of ration when it comes to receiving them at their home. one falls or has told me that is really what is the only one other person all the time in the can come here to the law to a it's right and to receive it. i'm and i receive the free present or so it remains a is the here that palestinians are, i'm trying to walk. let's try and see if we can talk to someone. let's just fix this up. so let's see if we can see a moment of the. yeah, yeah, how about his family is we're not going to talk to them. we are just gonna try and see if families on well need the new that pops up because they're up. so i can promise you with a question because we talk about palestinian prisoners of course. but it's easy to forget that

a lot of these people are extremely young and they are not hard and criminals, and many of them in prison for minor misdemeanors. yeah, and this one, some of them are in prison for throwing rocks or inside cement or a one of the charges says, endangering the security of the area which we could mean anything and everything. um, some of those people, the young man. uh huh. the, the difficult interrogation that's happened. sometimes they had to miss the things they have not done. you know, i remember the story of 2 brothers of interviews and they were telling me that they would need to sign it the uh, what was the need to set the was their testimonies and the basically words, but the way the words they were speaking and even when they did not understand what they were saying, and if they say that the is ready for the rest of them,

they said that they're gonna know. i know that if father to continue working they will vote did is really mean the city permits to answer the israel. 6 the other yeah, so in this case the city is od, accepting and signing on paper. they don't speak the language off, but also we are talking about how this thing is who choose to take the the is because of the high conviction rates. a reason sometimes you have people who are in prison even though they didn't do anything. okay, need it. well, we've got a very well placed guess to talk about all of that. so we'll leave you there for the time being. i will talk now about what palestinian prisoners go through and he's ready. jazz with rhonda while back who is a ph. d research who are on his ready prison systems and

a policy analyst for the trans national palestinian think tank. i'll show back. i hope i pronounced your setting. i'm correctly there at joining us from oakland in california at rhonda, thanks for being with us. thank you for having me. we're looking at very noisy, crowded, busy, colorful, and celebrate the scenes in central ramallah as these 39 palestinian prisoners arrive. and with them, of course, as the day of stories that we're hearing about, the conditions in which they are held in these riley jails over crowding. poor conditions degrading often humiliating treatment. many of them there for misdemeanors hardly hardened criminals. some released one with just a month left on his sentence. what does all of this tell us? what sort of picture does this paint about? the systemic way that israel uses its prison system to control the

population of the west bank. a thank you. yes, i just want to say that it's just joyful to see these children, and these mothers who have some who have been detained for years to be reunited with their families and their loved ones, especially because of so much reporting on the heretic present conditions that they endured and because they have been effectively cut off from their families for nearly 2 months since this really present service terminated family visitation rights, as a punitive measure against them such as the them are united with their families is really some things to celebrate. one thing i want to draw attention to today is that even though the women and children are released in a prisoner exchange deal, they are not saved from being continuing to be targeted by the is really military or from being re arrested in the future. in general, all palestinian former prisoners have had the rights curtailed for the rest of their lives. they continued to be surveilled and monitored. they continued to be

summoned for interrogations. there issued travel them. but more specifically for palestinians released and exchanged jill like the women and children in the last few days. israel has codified and military law and order that deliberately undermines their freedom. um, so in 2009 when israel and how mastering negotiations for a prisoner swap, this a israel codified and lost a stipulation that anyone releasing a prisoner exchange deal can be rear rested at any time to serve the remainder of their previous sentence. and their arrest is based on a secret file that is only seen by the military judge and never by the prisoner never by their lawyers. meaning it's nearly impossible to appeal their cases because they don't have access to the secret information which landed them back in prison. and this has historically resulted in the systematic reinvest of release prisoners. so for example, in the last prisoner's swap deal in 2011 is really army had,

has already re arrested 7 the of those who were released and maddox james, including one of the longest serving, posting and prisoners in history. nothing but a good deal. who was released in 2011 after 34 years in detention and rear rested only 3 years later to finish his sentence. and he continues to be in prison today. i think they've met him, but i have them haven't a combined to even been convicted of any sort of private as this thing called administrative to detention by which they could be held with have shot without conviction. and israel has arrested something like 3000 people just since the 7th of october. so what's going on now is of me a drop in the ocean or? yeah, so we should remember and keep in mind that the $150.00 post indians that will be released and this deal represent less than 2 percent of the total number of palestinians currently detained by israel. and the mass incarceration campaign, as you noted,

has only intensified some of the started with the negotiations for those prisoners swaps. so in the last 7 weeks alone, israel has arrested over 3100 palestinians. and every day they are conducting mass arrest campaigns across the west. bank arresting dozens of people and up to 100 palestinians every day, from their homes without a warrant, and without any indication of why they are being arrested. last night there are reports that 2 injured palestinians on the way to their hospital, were forcibly removed from an ambulance and taking into detention. and as you noted, thousands are being put under administrative detention and are never being charged at all. they're being detained. also based off of secret evidence, which they never have access to and they can be held in administrative detention for 6 months at a time with very little judicial review. one such case is that today i had to meet,

which you may remember her name because she was arrested as a teenager, and served 8 months in prison already was re rested on november 6th. and just this morning, the military prosecution has indicated that they intend to give her administrative detention order, which means that she will not know why she is in detention run around her. i'm sorry to have to wrap you up there. we have to move on. i'm so grateful for your time analyst for the policy palestinian policy network. i'll set back up many things. a lot of shots again in ramallah the scenes that we'd be looking at large crowds that to welcome posted in prisons. 39 of them released the 3rd set of released as opposed to the prisoners from off the prison in return for is riley captives released in gaza. and on my to george this. now he's a journalist for the independent news website. the grades that joins us live from

new york. adams, thanks so much for joining us. i want to pick up with you on what we'd be learning from us, the duties willing to extend the cx 5 be on the card for days if he's willing to do so on the previously stipulated the degree tubs 10 is riley captives. in other words, in route to full, 30, published in in prison is the one to 3 ratio we've seen up to. now, president biden says he's in favor of that, watch the calculus now he's president 5 and going to lean on prime minister netanyahu apply more pressure than he has up to now to ensure that that goes ahead and i think no evidence of that whatsoever. and that will depend largely on what the us public does, whether people who are funding this genocide always really assaults on gaza, will come out in bigger numbers to stop this and put pressure on by them. because so far it's been a complete green light for israel's campaign. i can tell you that right now,

as we're speaking in new york on the manhattan bridge, there are hundreds of people with the group jewish boys for peace, for staging. a sit in risking arrest on the manhattan bridge to call for a permanency is fire. not just as brief pause to the mass occurs that bite in that in that and yeah, who are trying to impose and that's a hardening seen being jewish myself, seeing so many other jews go out there and say not in our name. and that's one more, i think heartening seem we can look at, along with all the palestinians, welcoming home their freed prisoners in the occupied territories. so as to what biden does, unless there is math, political opposition from the public. i believe it, this master will continue. what i want to talk about the calculus, what is happening inside the fight and the ministration, because, you know, they're stuck between a rock and a hard place on the tide to israel tied to this. i'm questioning support. i'm critical support of providence to nothing. yeah. whose policies here is rubbing off

very badly on the by the administration at a very difficult time in the run up to an election. he's got issues within his own party, their issues within congress as well. he doesn't want surely to see a resumption of the war on the scale that we've seen it up to now. so i wouldn't give him that credit. what, what he said in public. he denied the palestinian death tool. the scott at the thousands of people who died so he doesn't believe those figures. now it's finally been reported in the washington post that finding that a private meeting express for rep for that there's no public apology. there's no public retraction. so all we can do is go by president biden's actions minimizing and denying the policy and dental a betting it by continuing to support israel's assault. even when, by the way, israel could have had a very similar captive exchange deal over a month ago. when cut our broker to pretty much the exact same agreement, but israel now multiple times are chosen to go ahead with its itself because it's

same as multiple officials from his roles made very clear. if the applicant claims guns guys out to destroy it, when it is really official, said that the aim is destruction not accuracy. and i'm paraphrasing that is pretty much what they said. and biden has made the choice a calculated want to continue supporting that. so unless there was a fundamental shift inside the white house, these atrocities will go on. how credible therefore, can the united states be? is this sort of full powerful into look at to the only powers we keep hearing that israel will listen to. and i asked the question, because a boss has said to al jazeera in the last hour that he must be the united states that steps up that the united states is the only power that couldn't forge a piece. they clearly want to see the us return to the role of credible,

at least in full set of policy on behalf of israel. but kenneth, so i don't think that's a reflection of us credibility. it's a reflection of its power of us has never been incredible actor when it comes to israel palestine issue. since 1967, israel has been a client state of the us. it's carried out services on behalf of the us smashing air of nationalism arming, dest squads in central america, when there's too much congressional scrutiny in the us. and accordingly, a mazda is recognizing that only the us has the leverage to get israel to finally respect, minimal international standards. because israel is the benefits from us providing the military support and diplomatic cover. so how mos in calling on the us to act is simply saying that the us must finally for the 1st time get its client to start respecting international law, to start choosing peace and security for everybody over expansion and occupation.

to see that happening. i don't know, i am less enough people in the u. s. could come out and put political pressure. now there are hopeful signs. i've never seen such an explosion of policy and solidarity in us. we recently had the biggest ever march in washington for posting in rights. it's been happening across the country. people are fed up jews like myself, our 2nd at the atrocities being committed in our name. so if public pressure can continue, i do think it's possible that even the by the ministration which has been so callous, so just completely reckless in supporting these as really massacres. possible. possibly the message can get through to them and possibly the political message can get through because you have muscle americans across the country saying, we're not going to boat for this guy. we're not going to vote for genocide. joe, who has promised to respect our rights, but turned around and support the brutal apartheid regime. committing mass murder

and gaza. okay, on my side, thanks. feel incense, we leave it there, but it is just past 20 gmc now tempe. i mean, gaza they occupied territories and israel,